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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #615 on: August 17, 2018, 11:09:40 AM »
I remember an interview with the ex Coventry winger Dave Bennet. He'd have a shot of rum before kick off. Seems a popular tactic in the 70s and 80s.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #616 on: August 17, 2018, 11:20:42 AM »
I always remember Tommy Johnston barfing on the pitch. He seemed ok after that game though, always looked like he was enjoying it.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #617 on: August 17, 2018, 11:41:40 AM »
I remember an interview with the ex Coventry winger Dave Bennet. He'd have a shot of rum before kick off. Seems a popular tactic in the 70s and 80s.

I might bring it back for MNF 5-a-side.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #618 on: August 17, 2018, 12:05:59 PM »
Wrapped up like a present? He had a hand on him and the forward had a hand on his leg. So what?

Never a penalty.




Behave and stop fabricating. Elphick has two arms around the striker, whose hand is not in fact on Elphick's leg.

Tommy has let a striker get in front of him and outmuscle him in a set-piece situation so he's wrapped his arms around him and the lad hasn't been able to move. It's a penalty.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #619 on: August 17, 2018, 12:12:42 PM »
If that was given every time there'd be half a dozen penalties in every match and they'd last two hours. 

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« Reply #620 on: August 17, 2018, 12:19:40 PM »
 
If that was given every time there'd be half a dozen penalties in every match and they'd last two hours. 

It's still a foul inside the box against the attacking team. Therefore, a penalty.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #621 on: August 17, 2018, 12:23:40 PM »
If that was given every time there'd be half a dozen penalties in every match and they'd last two hours. 

It's still a foul inside the box against the attacking team. Therefore, a penalty.

I don't recall many, if any of their players appealing at the time. The ref got it wrong, as he did a couple of things that night.

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« Reply #622 on: August 17, 2018, 12:23:45 PM »
If that was given every time there'd be half a dozen penalties in every match and they'd last two hours. 

It's still a foul inside the box against the attacking team. Therefore, a penalty.

God help any team you referee then.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #623 on: August 17, 2018, 12:53:16 PM »
Wrapped up like a present? He had a hand on him and the forward had a hand on his leg. So what?

Never a penalty.




Behave and stop fabricating. Elphick has two arms around the striker, whose hand is not in fact on Elphick's leg.

Tommy has let a striker get in front of him and outmuscle him in a set-piece situation so he's wrapped his arms around him and the lad hasn't been able to move. It's a penalty.

If you took a screenshot of that another second later you will see that the Yeovil player's arm continues on around Elphick's back.  That constitutes holding, an offence punishable with a direct free kick.  Six of one half a dozen of the other, impossible to call as both offences occur at the same time.  What are you going to give?  Correct decision IMO?  Play on.  I've experienced enough of incidents in my time to know that is what the referee should have done.  I always try to see the referee's point of view but this one he got wrong.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #624 on: August 17, 2018, 12:57:06 PM »
Listen I'm a Villa fan and we're all prone to blind allegiance at times but a foul is a foul, a penalty is a penalty. You'd swear the fella had gone down in the box without anyone near him. I really don't understand how anyone can look at that situation and see anything other than a foul.

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« Reply #625 on: August 17, 2018, 01:01:44 PM »
Wrapped up like a present? He had a hand on him and the forward had a hand on his leg. So what?

Never a penalty.




Behave and stop fabricating. Elphick has two arms around the striker, whose hand is not in fact on Elphick's leg.

Tommy has let a striker get in front of him and outmuscle him in a set-piece situation so he's wrapped his arms around him and the lad hasn't been able to move. It's a penalty.

If you took a screenshot of that another second later you will see that the Yeovil player's arm continues on around Elphick's back.  That constitutes holding, an offence punishable with a direct free kick.  Six of one half a dozen of the other, impossible to call as both offences occur at the same time.  What are you going to give?  Correct decision IMO?  Play on.  I've experienced enough of incidents in my time to know that is what the referee should have done.  I always try to see the referee's point of view but this one he got wrong.





Why lie?

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #626 on: August 17, 2018, 01:06:38 PM »
All right then.  Explain to me why is his left arm across Elphick's chest?  He's holding him off, and, his right elbow is in our no 4's ear. 

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #627 on: August 17, 2018, 01:13:18 PM »
All right then.  Explain to me why is his left arm across Elphick's chest?  He's holding him off, and, his right elbow is in our no 4's ear. 

Have you ever been tugged to the ground? Your arms go out automatically, He's being pulled down so he's trying to find leverage

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #628 on: August 17, 2018, 01:15:37 PM »
It was never a clear cut penalty and justice was done when he missed.

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Re: Tommy Elphick - signed
« Reply #629 on: August 17, 2018, 04:56:20 PM »
All right then.  Explain to me why is his left arm across Elphick's chest?  He's holding him off, and, his right elbow is in our no 4's ear. 

Have you ever been tugged to the ground? Your arms go out automatically, He's being pulled down so he's trying to find leverage

My arms don't shoot out to the side when I'm getting a tug.

 


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