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Offline gpbarr

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3570 on: April 18, 2016, 01:29:17 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.
Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.
It would be naive in the extreme to think that the likes of Bernstein and Little have not already had extensive conversations about candidates. The discussion now is hopefully about actively recruiting the preferred candidate.
The worry is that - despite putting in place a credible Board, appointing an executive Chairman and declaring not to have much interest these days - Lerner insists on having an active executive role.

That's not the problem - the fact that Lerner will insist on the need to cut costs is the problem. The new manager will have meager funds to spend and that is a deeply worrying situation, given the total overhaul needed.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3571 on: April 18, 2016, 01:30:30 PM »
As long as he is committed, identifies the players that are remaining and gets them motivated, identifies players we need and be allowed to get them, gel the whole team and have them play with passion and belief.
If that's Pearson, Moyes or a.n.other I really don't care.
Is the correct answer!

Absolutely. I don't believe a winning manager will divide the fans. As I said before, if the Villa fans can love MON, they can love anybody.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3572 on: April 18, 2016, 01:32:23 PM »
Moyes wouldn't be my first choice but I would take him over Pearson, let alone over Mick McCarthy.

It would also resolve what has basically been our managerial Robbie Keane - he's been linked with the job for such a long time, we might as well.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3573 on: April 18, 2016, 01:34:21 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.
I know we are shit but Sunderland are in a mess and have been for few years. They may survive but will be no better next season. Liverpool had blown the match and were let back in by a opposition melt down. Leicester I predict will be involved in a relegation scrap next season.

Disagree.  I think they will noticeably improve under Allardyce if they stay up.  They actually look a fairly decent side at the moment (that Kirchoff has been an inspired signing) and only Man City and Leicester have beaten them in the last ten games.   

I agree, and it is obvious the are playing for each other. Kone looks a good signing too. The point is there though, that they have found a togetherness that has helped them pick up points from a place where they were in a similar position to us at the turn of the year. They are not a more talented side, they just have a lot more fight, and a manager that knows how to grind out results.

How much of that togetherness starts with the manager? I know things were shit behind the scenes but how much of the lack of unity came down to the man management tactics employed by the manager? There was as story from the weekend how Allardyce got into it with the Norwich players to defend his and that it had a real galvanising affect. Those things are all short term but at the time he did it, right before a game it clearly got a very positive reaction. While the players are ultimately accountable did Garde ever get his players to truly buy into the things he was looking to do and did he inspire any of them?

I would say only once or twice, at home against Palace and West Ham, did we ever look like we are together, biting into the tackle and giving it all for each other.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3574 on: April 18, 2016, 01:34:34 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.
Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.
It would be naive in the extreme to think that the likes of Bernstein and Little have not already had extensive conversations about candidates. The discussion now is hopefully about actively recruiting the preferred candidate.
The worry is that - despite putting in place a credible Board, appointing an executive Chairman and declaring not to have much interest these days - Lerner insists on having an active executive role.

That's not the problem - the fact that Lerner will insist on the need to cut costs is the problem. The new manager will have meager funds to spend and that is a deeply worrying situation, given the total overhaul needed.

meagre funds....like Swansea, Leicester, Everton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth have all had to put up with in recent times?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3575 on: April 18, 2016, 01:35:16 PM »
I'm more worried about getting a manager i don't want than thinking about one I do fancy

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3576 on: April 18, 2016, 01:35:28 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.
Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.
It would be naive in the extreme to think that the likes of Bernstein and Little have not already had extensive conversations about candidates. The discussion now is hopefully about actively recruiting the preferred candidate.
The worry is that - despite putting in place a credible Board, appointing an executive Chairman and declaring not to have much interest these days - Lerner insists on having an active executive role.

That's not the problem - the fact that Lerner will insist on the need to cut costs is the problem. The new manager will have meager funds to spend and that is a deeply worrying situation, given the total overhaul needed.

meagre funds....like Swansea, Leicester, Everton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth have all had to put up with in recent times?
very likely

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3577 on: April 18, 2016, 01:41:11 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.
Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.
It would be naive in the extreme to think that the likes of Bernstein and Little have not already had extensive conversations about candidates. The discussion now is hopefully about actively recruiting the preferred candidate.
The worry is that - despite putting in place a credible Board, appointing an executive Chairman and declaring not to have much interest these days - Lerner insists on having an active executive role.

That's not the problem - the fact that Lerner will insist on the need to cut costs is the problem. The new manager will have meager funds to spend and that is a deeply worrying situation, given the total overhaul needed.

meagre funds....like Swansea, Leicester, Everton, Southampton, Watford, Bournemouth have all had to put up with in recent times?

None of them needed the overhaul we do. But let's just watch. The new manager is going to disappoint I assure you, because their hands will be tied.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3578 on: April 18, 2016, 01:44:48 PM »
From the BBC...

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David Moyes is interested in the Aston Villa manager's job but has not yet been contacted by the club.

Nearly six months after being sacked by Real Sociedad, Moyes is keen to get back into football and is attracted by the challenge of reviving Aston Villa.

He has seen them live recently and would be receptive to talks. But he's aware doubts over next season's budget at the club could delay the process.

Nigel Pearson remains the bookies' favourite and there is also backing for Mick McCarthy,Sean Dyche and Steve Bruce - but Moyes was approached by Villa last autumn after Tim Sherwood was sacked.

Moyes was still at Real Sociedad when Villa's Head of Recruitment Paddy Riley flew over for talks. Moyes asked pointed questions about the quality of the 12 players Riley had helped bring in at a cost of £55m and the talks did not progress very far.

Villa's football board will concentrate this week on their short list of candidates after relegation was confirmed on Saturday. Moyes is certain to be on that list.

 


 

Fucking unbelievable.  Just when you think the Boardroom are getting some credibility back.

Yes, lets have a f¤¤king heart attack because another journalist has had another guess at what's happening.

There must be as many different stories and interpretations of the lack of facts as there are media outlets.

There are only 3 facts as we stand.

1. We're trying to turn around a decades worth of off-field mismanagement.
2. We're relegated.
3. We're in the market for a new manager.

Everything else is an uncomfortable mix of guess work, supposition and blatant shit stirring.  Albeit Murphy carries considerably more credibility than someone like Gregg Evans.

There's nothing suggesting that they've approached anyone at all, or that Moyes has been approached by anyone else. Maybe the board are doing their due diligence on this one, plenty of people on here have raised questions around Moyes' suitability with varying degrees of credibility, so it's not unreasonable to hope/expect/think that the board is doing it's job properly and really going through it with a fine tooth comb. After all, it's only the most important appointment at the club in 29 years.
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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3579 on: April 18, 2016, 01:49:51 PM »
From the BBC...

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David Moyes is interested in the Aston Villa manager's job but has not yet been contacted by the club.

Nearly six months after being sacked by Real Sociedad, Moyes is keen to get back into football and is attracted by the challenge of reviving Aston Villa.

He has seen them live recently and would be receptive to talks. But he's aware doubts over next season's budget at the club could delay the process.

Nigel Pearson remains the bookies' favourite and there is also backing for Mick McCarthy,Sean Dyche and Steve Bruce - but Moyes was approached by Villa last autumn after Tim Sherwood was sacked.

Moyes was still at Real Sociedad when Villa's Head of Recruitment Paddy Riley flew over for talks. Moyes asked pointed questions about the quality of the 12 players Riley had helped bring in at a cost of £55m and the talks did not progress very far.

Villa's football board will concentrate this week on their short list of candidates after relegation was confirmed on Saturday. Moyes is certain to be on that list.

 


 

Fucking unbelievable.  Just when you think the Boardroom are getting some credibility back.

Yes, lets have a f¤¤king heart attack because another journalist has had another guess at what's happening.

There must be as many different stories and interpretations of the lack of facts as there are media outlets.

There are only 3 facts as we stand.

1. We're trying to turn around a decades worth of off-field mismanagement.
2. We're relegated.
3. We're in the market for a new manager.

Everything else is an uncomfortable mix of guess work, supposition and blatant shit stirring.  Albeit Murphy carries a considerably more credibility than someone like Gregg Evans.

There's nothing suggesting that they've approached anyone at all, or that Moyes has been approached by anyone else. Maybe the board are doing their due diligence on this one, plenty of people on here have raised questions around Moyes' suitability with varying degrees of credibility, so it's not unreasonable to think that the board if doing it's job properly is really going through it with a fine tooth comb. After all, it's only the most important appointment at the club in 29 years.

When the BBC resort to telling us who the bookies favourite is, it shows they don't know anything either.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3580 on: April 18, 2016, 02:45:46 PM »
Moyes wouldn't be my first choice but I would take him over Pearson, let alone over Mick McCarthy.

It would also resolve what has basically been our managerial Robbie Keane - he's been linked with the job for such a long time, we might as well.

So if Moyes isn't good enough who would realistically be your first choice?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3581 on: April 18, 2016, 02:48:18 PM »
Moyes wouldn't be my first choice but I would take him over Pearson, let alone over Mick McCarthy.

It would also resolve what has basically been our managerial Robbie Keane - he's been linked with the job for such a long time, we might as well.

So if Moyes isn't good enough who would realistically be your first choice?

It's more style than ability. I'd prefer someone like Rodgers or Gary Rowett.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3582 on: April 18, 2016, 02:54:43 PM »
You think Brendan Rodgers would come?!

Online Monty

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3583 on: April 18, 2016, 02:56:01 PM »
You think Brendan Rodgers would come?!

If David Moyes wants to, maybe!

Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3584 on: April 18, 2016, 02:59:49 PM »
You think Brendan Rodgers would come?!
My concern with Rodgers, like Lambert, he is only as good as his backroom staff, and has since be found out.

 


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