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Online Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3555 on: April 18, 2016, 12:06:20 PM »
But worrying that it was reported weeks ago that Moyes would be interested, yet supposedly nobody has contacted him yet.

Wasn't the whole point of getting rid of Garde so early to speed up this process?

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3556 on: April 18, 2016, 12:16:49 PM »
In fairness I think Garde went because he wanted to go, otherwise it would have waited till May. Since then you don't know if the delay has been finishing the review etc, but we need to get on with it now, especially if a manager like Moyes is interested, just sort it out and if it entails sacking Reilly, sack him!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3557 on: April 18, 2016, 12:20:47 PM »
As long as he is committed, identifies the players that are remaining and gets them motivated, identifies players we need and be allowed to get them, gel the whole team and have them play with passion and belief.
If that's Pearson, Moyes or a.n.other I really don't care.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3558 on: April 18, 2016, 12:21:27 PM »
But worrying that it was reported weeks ago that Moyes would be interested, yet supposedly nobody has contacted him yet.

Wasn't the whole point of getting rid of Garde so early to speed up this process?
The story last Wednesday was that they had just drawn up the shortlist.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3559 on: April 18, 2016, 12:25:00 PM »
As long as he is committed, identifies the players that are remaining and gets them motivated, identifies players we need and be allowed to get them, gel the whole team and have them play with passion and belief.
If that's Pearson, Moyes or a.n.other I really don't care.
Is the correct answer!

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3560 on: April 18, 2016, 12:30:06 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3561 on: April 18, 2016, 12:46:14 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.

Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.


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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3562 on: April 18, 2016, 12:51:42 PM »
How many times is the Board going to start working on its shortlist of candidates - this is the 5th time they are going to start doing it by my reckoning.
Then they'll probably have to fly to America to get Randy to approve the list.
It would be naive in the extreme to think that the likes of Bernstein and Little have not already had extensive conversations about candidates. The discussion now is hopefully about actively recruiting the preferred candidate.
The worry is that - despite putting in place a credible Board, appointing an executive Chairman and declaring not to have much interest these days - Lerner insists on having an active executive role.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3563 on: April 18, 2016, 12:51:46 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.
I know we are shit but Sunderland are in a mess and have been for few years. They may survive but will be no better next season. Liverpool had blown the match and were let back in by a opposition melt down. Leicester I predict will be involved in a relegation scrap next season.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3564 on: April 18, 2016, 01:10:11 PM »
It's amazing though how much gets made up in the media. Garde left the club weeks ago, and on the one hand we haven't started to discuss the potential new manager, and on the other there is media speculation daily on who is now the favourite to take the job. If we haven't started to discuss it surely then nobody is favourite because nobody knows who they might be discussing.

I think it's a little nuts for anyone to think over the past few weeks it had gone unnoticed by those at the club we actually don't have a permanent manager and that they will only start to discuss it this week. I imagine over tea and biscuits one morning since Garde left at least one of the board had it on their agenda to bring up.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3565 on: April 18, 2016, 01:13:43 PM »
Managed League 1 Champions Swansea
Won the FA Cup with Wigan
Got relegated and went to Everton

~ now fans are turning against him.

If,now that kenwood's influence is tempered at Goodsison, IF he did go at season'e end
- it could be Roberto Martinez.
Never a huge spender, which might appeal to some up top.  :D

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On 10 June 2011, it was announced that Martínez had turned down an approach from Aston Villa regarding their vacant managerial position

~ stranger things have happened.

If we weren't good enough for him then were not good enough for him now, he would feel psychologically that he was "doing us a favour" by coming here - no thanks.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3566 on: April 18, 2016, 01:15:58 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.
I know we are shit but Sunderland are in a mess and have been for few years. They may survive but will be no better next season. Liverpool had blown the match and were let back in by a opposition melt down. Leicester I predict will be involved in a relegation scrap next season.

Disagree.  I think they will noticeably improve under Allardyce if they stay up.  They actually look a fairly decent side at the moment (that Kirchoff has been an inspired signing) and only Man City and Leicester have beaten them in the last ten games.   

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3567 on: April 18, 2016, 01:21:23 PM »
Allardyce has done a good job taking a defence that we have battered a few times over the past few years and made them immediately more resolute. If there is anything that we needed Garde to do is make us harder to score against and he failed horribly at that. Having to score 2 to win is a damn sight easier than having to score 4 or 5. And that's just to get a draw at times with us.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3568 on: April 18, 2016, 01:24:07 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.
I know we are shit but Sunderland are in a mess and have been for few years. They may survive but will be no better next season. Liverpool had blown the match and were let back in by a opposition melt down. Leicester I predict will be involved in a relegation scrap next season.

Disagree.  I think they will noticeably improve under Allardyce if they stay up.  They actually look a fairly decent side at the moment (that Kirchoff has been an inspired signing) and only Man City and Leicester have beaten them in the last ten games.   

I agree, and it is obvious the are playing for each other. Kone looks a good signing too. The point is there though, that they have found a togetherness that has helped them pick up points from a place where they were in a similar position to us at the turn of the year. They are not a more talented side, they just have a lot more fight, and a manager that knows how to grind out results.

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Re: Manager for next season
« Reply #3569 on: April 18, 2016, 01:29:03 PM »
That work rate for each other is so true. Watching Sunderland, Leicester, Liverpool the other night, the togetherness and team spirit is obvious. Watching us it is just so clearly missing. Not good at all.
I know we are shit but Sunderland are in a mess and have been for few years. They may survive but will be no better next season. Liverpool had blown the match and were let back in by a opposition melt down. Leicester I predict will be involved in a relegation scrap next season.

Disagree.  I think they will noticeably improve under Allardyce if they stay up.  They actually look a fairly decent side at the moment (that Kirchoff has been an inspired signing) and only Man City and Leicester have beaten them in the last ten games.   

I agree, and it is obvious the are playing for each other. Kone looks a good signing too. The point is there though, that they have found a togetherness that has helped them pick up points from a place where they were in a similar position to us at the turn of the year. They are not a more talented side, they just have a lot more fight, and a manager that knows how to grind out results.

How much of that togetherness starts with the manager? I know things were shit behind the scenes but how much of the lack of unity came down to the man management tactics employed by the manager? There was as story from the weekend how Allardyce got into it with the Norwich players to defend his and that it had a real galvanising affect. Those things are all short term but at the time he did it, right before a game it clearly got a very positive reaction. While the players are ultimately accountable did Garde ever get his players to truly buy into the things he was looking to do and did he inspire any of them?

 


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