Manager for next season

[PaulWinch again]

If Garde does go I'd be delighted with Moyes, because as much as anything it's a sign of intent.

Intent to what?

Past performance is no guarantee of future performance. He did very well at PNE & Everton no doubt, but equally of no doubt he bombed at ManU and at RS. He may very well work out well, equally he may very well oversee a continued decline.

Its a lottery. 

It's always a lottery it doesn't matter who you appoint, but you honestly believe that hiring Moyes wouldn't be seen as a coup for Villa in the footballing world? It obviously would, and that's what I mean by intent.

I understand the point, but it's not really a lottery. That implies just throwing a load of names up in the air and picking one out at random.

Whoever they appoint or whether they decide to stick with Garde, it's a risk, but it's a calculated risk.

I probably shouldn't have used the word lottery, as essentially my point was that Moyes may be a risk but so would any manager. Moyes would offer a respected name and like I said a sign of intent.

[PaulWinch again]

We're in the Championship, a number of our supporters think we're headed down again, and wanting Moyes is even an argument?

I don't get it either.

As somebody else pointed out, if you wanted a signal that we still think we're a big club and that we're prepared to try and act the part again, getting a manager as well known and in my view, as good as Moyes, would be a big step towards that.

Indeed not wanting him is absolutely bonkers.

[Boz]

I think given our current situation, if someone like Moyes genuinely DOES want to come, then it's a gift from God.  I simply cannot understand why anyone wouldn't want him here.  Then again it's all about opinion...

And that's the key point. Personally, I think Moyes could be considered a "safe" choice, whatever that means, but little charisma and a rather dull character.

Where's the flair for a Bilic or Flores?

[mr woo]

Jeez, there's a lot of snobbery on here.

As far as I see, he was given the Man U job on merit. Only a couple of years ago.

 THE MAN U JOB FFS!!!


We're absolutely on our arse and the vibes suggest he'd be prepared to have a crack at turning us round? I'd say turning down an opportunity like that would be a bigger mistake than giving the job to Sherwood, Garde, Turner and McNeill all rolled into one.

Especially if you consider what we really could end up with.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I think given our current situation, if someone like Moyes genuinely DOES want to come, then it's a gift from God.  I simply cannot understand why anyone wouldn't want him here.  Then again it's all about opinion...

And that's the key point. Personally, I think Moyes could be considered a "safe" choice, whatever that means, but little charisma and a rather dull character.

Where's the flair for a Bilic or Flores?

We can have a more adventurous manager once we're up and stable. The only fear for me is we do exactly the same we did with MON, which is not ditch him when we're on the rise. Five years of Moyes frightens me but right now he's probably the best or safest we can hope for. Beggars can't be choosers..

[Boz]

Jeez, there's a lot of snobbery on here.

As far as I see, he was given the Man U job on merit. Only a couple of years ago.

 THE MAN U JOB FFS!!!


We're absolutely on our arse and the vibes suggest he'd be prepared to have a crack at turning us round? I'd say turning down an opportunity like that would be a bigger mistake than giving the job to Sherwood, Garde, Turner and McNeill all rolled into one.

Especially if you consider what we really could end up with.

How do you equate peoples opinions to snobbery, you're anti Garde which is your entitled opinion, but just because Ferguson recommended Moyes doesn't make him the right  man for Villa. He certainly didn't have a lot of success in Spain. He'd probably be a better choice than some of the other names being bandied about, but it's still only peoples opinions

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

I could take or leave Moyes, doesn't fill me with any great excitement or dread

[SamTheMouse]

If we absolutely have to have another dour Scot in charge, I can't think of any better than him.

He'd probably be a safe pair of hands. I quite liked his Everton side, they used to play good football, although he has a well-deserved reputation for being unable to sign a decent striker and does tend to rely on a lot of goals from midfield.

So he'd have to rebuild ours from scratch.

[SamTheMouse]

How do you equate peoples opinions to snobbery, you're anti Garde which is your entitled opinion, but just because Ferguson recommended Moyes doesn't make him the right  man for Villa. He certainly didn't have a lot of success in Spain. He'd probably be a better choice than some of the other names being bandied about, but it's still only peoples opinions

Indeed. As we know from bitter experience, Ferguson's "recommendations" should be avoided like polio.

[Dave]

If we absolutely have to have another dour Scot in charge, I can't think of any better than him.

He'd probably be a safe pair of hands. I quite liked his Everton side, they used to play good football, although he has a well-deserved reputation for being unable to sign a decent striker and does tend to rely on a lot of goals from midfield.

He's lucky then that he would inherit Rudy Gestede, so he wouldn't need to sign a new one.

[AVH87]

I think given our current situation, if someone like Moyes genuinely DOES want to come, then it's a gift from God.  I simply cannot understand why anyone wouldn't want him here.  Then again it's all about opinion...

And that's the key point. Personally, I think Moyes could be considered a "safe" choice, whatever that means, but little charisma and a rather dull character.

Where's the flair for a Bilic or Flores?

We can have a more adventurous manager once we're up and stable. The only fear for me is we do exactly the same we did with MON, which is not ditch him when we're on the rise. Five years of Moyes frightens me but right now he's probably the best or safest we can hope for. Beggars can't be choosers..

Five years of Moyes frightening anybody I do not get, Everton had 11 years of him and he left a great platform for Martinez (who is buggering it up a bit now), after finishing 5th in the first season after Moyes left.

[fredm]

We're in the Championship, a number of our supporters think we're headed down again, and wanting Moyes is even an argument?

I don't get it either.

As somebody else pointed out, if you wanted a signal that we still think we're a big club and that we're prepared to try and act the part again, getting a manager as well known and in my view, as good as Moyes, would be a big step towards that.
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For me, appointing Moyes would be filed with the common sense decisions seemingly being made at board level. Get solid people in who understand the game, the industry and how to correct a very difficult situation off the field. Do likewise on the field.
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If, and it's a big if, Moyes has intimated that he would be interested in coming to VP, then I think the new board/structure would have a lot to do with it.  He will have seen who is now apparently making the decisions at the top and is happy to be a part of the scenario.  I think in the past when he allegedly turned us down, he was not happy at the structure/management/quality of personnel in place at the club.

[john e]

I'd take Moyes now
and I've never ever ever said that before as I've always thought he was  a boring flatliner of a manager

But I'd take him now

[villa `cross the mersey]

Nutty Nigel or Dithering Dave ?

I consider Moyes would be a step up from what we have endured of late. Doesn`t solve the ownership problem however - which is the source of all our woes over the last few seasons.

Lets hope the necessary big decisions are being made right now so we can kick off in August with a clean slate and plenty of optimism .

[CT]

No brainer for me too.

With him, and a solid back-room team, I'd have hope, whereas at the moment I have absolutely none.