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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 941151 times)

Offline olaftab

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4950 on: February 18, 2016, 09:19:29 PM »
I suspect if Garde goes he will get a reputation that might be undeserved.
In that case he needs to stick around and build up a great reputation.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4951 on: February 18, 2016, 09:25:38 PM »
I suspect if Garde goes he will get a reputation that might be undeserved.
In that case he needs to stick around and build up a great reputation.

And stop playing Bacuna because only a complete fool would continue to play that clown every week. I like Remi but I agree with others who are saying he doesn't seem able to motivate or enthuse the players. I know he inherited them and will hopefully be supported if he stays but he has to stop playing Bacuna!!

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4952 on: February 19, 2016, 02:11:45 AM »
I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson



So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?

Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.

Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.

Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?

Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January.

Absolute bat shit crazy!

It is, but not quite as Yampy as some of the people who think he'll be replacing Wenger at Arsenal. I know you can't polish a turd but you can stiffen one up a bit. I expect that of any manager at Villa, regardless of anything else.

Rome wasn't built in a day I understand that but just to reiterate Garde has had zero impact. Next season the turd will be bigger and probably  2/3 flushes

Super. Then let's can him (why not after all) and go again with another savior. Let's see where repeating the ills of the last 5 years gets us.

Division 3 I suspect.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4953 on: February 19, 2016, 08:15:06 AM »
I like Garde, I just think he is the right manager at the wrong time.

He got stiffed big time in the transfer window and he inherited a lot of shit, but lets be honest it's 2 wins in what 14 games and the team still looks as half arsed, unmotivated and disjointed as it's ever been. For me he has had zero effect since coming in.

I'm going to have to go and shower for a week because i feel so dirty for saying it but when we are in the championship garde aint going to be the man to get us out, it needs a dirty horrible bastard like Pearson



So all the managers who have gotten teams promoted from the Championship have been dirty horrible bastards like Pearson? Because I would contend that there are several types of manager that have gotten teams promoted from the Championship, so Garde will do just fine. And Pearson will remain a dirty horrible bastard that we should avoid like the plague.

Not all the managers no, did I say all the managers?

Let's face facts, in the january transfer window the club did sod all so chances are they will do the same in the summer, minimal outlay and few free transfers.

Much as I want them gone the majority of the squad will still be here, so Garde is going to have to, for the most part work with what we have now and probably more shit.

Garde isn't motivating the team now and 2 wins in 14 suggests he has had no discernible impact on the team, so what is he going to do that will dramatically improve things in the championship?

Judging the man after 16 games, knowing full well the pile of shit he not only inherited, but was then forced to work with exclusively in January.

Absolute bat shit crazy!

It is, but not quite as Yampy as some of the people who think he'll be replacing Wenger at Arsenal. I know you can't polish a turd but you can stiffen one up a bit. I expect that of any manager at Villa, regardless of anything else.

Rome wasn't built in a day I understand that but just to reiterate Garde has had zero impact. Next season the turd will be bigger and probably  2/3 flushes

Super. Then let's can him (why not after all) and go again with another savior. Let's see where repeating the ills of the last 5 years gets us.

Division 3 I suspect.

i dont disagree with you

but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4954 on: February 19, 2016, 08:28:39 AM »
Wednesday next week (24th Feb) I've got an invite to an event at VP through my work.
Stadium tour, lunch, then a Q & A with first team player and the manager in the afternoon. I'm really looking forward to it.
If I get a chance what sort of things would H & Vers suggest I ask ? Serious suggestions only please.

I suppose it entirely depends on which first team player.

How about - do you agree with most fans assessment that the attitude of the majority of the first team squad and their approach to their work this season has been both unprofessional and, as such, this has led to the unacceptable level of performances?

For Garde

Assuming you stay in post, what are your priorities immediately after the season ends?

I hope for an answer similar to Taylor's in 1987 - i.e. Player Overhaul

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4955 on: February 19, 2016, 08:33:20 AM »
The manager is irrelevant until things behind the scene are sorted. Most of this current team is not good enough to get us up or will look to abandon ship meaning a potentially large and expensive overhaul of the playing staff which I doubt the Board have any appetite for.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4956 on: February 19, 2016, 08:33:31 AM »
Unless something changes regarding the running of the club and the subsequent backing of the manager, it's difficult to imagine who would be a good bet to get us straight back up, if all they get to work with is the incumbent bunch of inadequates.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4957 on: February 19, 2016, 09:56:29 AM »
Wednesday next week (24th Feb) I've got an invite to an event at VP through my work.
Stadium tour, lunch, then a Q & A with first team player and the manager in the afternoon. I'm really looking forward to it.
If I get a chance what sort of things would H & Vers suggest I ask ? Serious suggestions only please.
Ask Garde:
Is he of the Chocolate Fireguard variety, of the Old Guard or of the Home Guard?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4958 on: February 19, 2016, 10:11:25 AM »

but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?

Based on the rebuilding of the side at Lyon, the type of side he built, what he has done here in very difficult circumstances and very few players to pick from and standing up to the Board and not letting them hide, I think he is just the type of manager we need.

Perhaps you could name somebody that has dealt with similar circumstances and being successful.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4959 on: February 19, 2016, 10:13:36 AM »
I can't believe there are people blaming Garde for a situation brewing since 2010. The guy inherited a complete mess when he arrived in November. We were on 4 points. let's not forget that. Also let's not forget the 'calibre' of player  recruited over the last five years: Holman, KEA, Tonev, Dawkins, Bowery, Bennett, Richardson and that's being kind to the likes of Bacuna, Westwood and Sylla.

We are an ever present premier league club that has been trying to do things on the cheap for too long. We deserve this, too many idiots in positions of power.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4960 on: February 19, 2016, 10:20:39 AM »

but lets be honest can you give any good reasons why garde is going to be the man to get us out of the championship?

Based on the rebuilding of the side at Lyon, the type of side he built, what he has done here in very difficult circumstances and very few players to pick from and standing up to the Board and not letting them hide, I think he is just the type of manager we need.

Perhaps you could name somebody that has dealt with similar circumstances and being successful.

Nigel Pearson is always the popular name. He of one promotion from the Championship in his six attempts.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4961 on: February 19, 2016, 10:27:35 AM »
I suspect if Garde goes he will get a reputation that might be undeserved.
In that case he needs to stick around and build up a great reputation.

And stop playing Bacuna because only a complete fool would continue to play that clown every week. I like Remi but I agree with others who are saying he doesn't seem able to motivate or enthuse the players. I know he inherited them and will hopefully be supported if he stays but he has to stop playing Bacuna!!
Good team spirit (motivation and enthusiasm) is usually the output of some success generated by someone producing a method of working  that is cohesive and productive and dare I say makes sense. We have lacked a cohesive method for far too long and that leads to apathy and regression. We need to implement more considered approach, that hopefully Garde is doing, and not "I attended a seminar this week" (Lambert) or  'kick and rush" (Sherwood) type of approach.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4962 on: February 19, 2016, 12:47:44 PM »
I can't believe there are people blaming Garde for a situation brewing since 2010. The guy inherited a complete mess when he arrived in November. We were on 4 points. let's not forget that. Also let's not forget the 'calibre' of player  recruited over the last five years: Holman, KEA, Tonev, Dawkins, Bowery, Bennett, Richardson and that's being kind to the likes of Bacuna, Westwood and Sylla.

We are an ever present premier league club that has been trying to do things on the cheap for too long. We deserve this, too many idiots in positions of power.
Agree, and Holman and Kea would walk into this team,

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4963 on: February 19, 2016, 02:11:46 PM »
I can't believe there are people blaming Garde for a situation brewing since 2010. The guy inherited a complete mess when he arrived in November. We were on 4 points. let's not forget that. Also let's not forget the 'calibre' of player  recruited over the last five years: Holman, KEA, Tonev, Dawkins, Bowery, Bennett, Richardson and that's being kind to the likes of Bacuna, Westwood and Sylla.

We are an ever present premier league club that has been trying to do things on the cheap for too long. We deserve this, too many idiots in positions of power.
Agree, and Holman and Kea would walk into this team,

KEA would keep walking in the team though, that was about as much pace as he could muster.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #4964 on: February 19, 2016, 06:04:22 PM »
I always thought KEA got a bad rap or at least was very under rated. Although he was one of those "nowhere" midfielders like Cleverly I am a sucker for a good work ethic.

 


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