Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa

[Chico Hamilton III]

To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?

I've worked that out simply by listening to him speak.

How many decades?

Two. Obviously.

Come on, Chico, you're not thick.

I'm beginning to think I might be

[chrisw1]

To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?

Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

Forgive me for analysing him a bit more deeply than whether or not he sounds like Wenger.

For what it's worth, he does a bit, actually. And whatever you might think about Arsenals success, or lack of, over Wenger's tenure, I'd find it hard to believe anyone who didn't think Wenger was one of the more intelligent managers in the Premier League. The connection is relevant, for obvious reasons.

Well Lambert was as intelligible as Fergie.  Alas, there the similarities ended.

Guarde has achieved nothing yet.  And whilst he does interview well, if Pulis had come in and got us two wins out of 14 people would be ripping their hair out.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and hope he has huge success for us over many years.  But at this stage your comments are pretty ridiculous.  And questioning the integrity of every manager we've had in the last 20 years due to limited on field success is pretty damn harsh.
 

[Edvard Remberg]

To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?

Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

Forgive me for analysing him a bit more deeply than whether or not he sounds like Wenger.

For what it's worth, he does a bit, actually. And whatever you might think about Arsenals success, or lack of, over Wenger's tenure, I'd find it hard to believe anyone who didn't think Wenger was one of the more intelligent managers in the Premier League. The connection is relevant, for obvious reasons.

Well Lambert was as intelligible as Fergie.  Alas, there the similarities ended.

Guarde has achieved nothing yet.  And whilst he does interview well, if Pulis had come in and got us two wins out of 14 people would be ripping their hair out.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and hope he has huge success for us over many years.  But at this stage your comments are pretty ridiculous.  And questioning the integrity of every manager we've had in the last 20 years due to limited on field success is pretty damn harsh.
 

Here we are - people ganging up against him because he has a difference of opinion...

Oh? - ups, that only works when people object to RG being shit and has to go no matter what end of season.

[bob]

To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?

Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

Forgive me for analysing him a bit more deeply than whether or not he sounds like Wenger.

For what it's worth, he does a bit, actually. And whatever you might think about Arsenals success, or lack of, over Wenger's tenure, I'd find it hard to believe anyone who didn't think Wenger was one of the more intelligent managers in the Premier League. The connection is relevant, for obvious reasons.

Well Lambert was as intelligible as Fergie.  Alas, there the similarities ended.

Guarde has achieved nothing yet.  And whilst he does interview well, if Pulis had come in and got us two wins out of 14 people would be ripping their hair out.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and hope he has huge success for us over many years.  But at this stage your comments are pretty ridiculous.  And questioning the integrity of every manager we've had in the last 20 years due to limited on field success is pretty damn harsh.
 

I don't think they are ridiculous, Chris. I'm visiualising a future with an intelligent man in charge.

The managers we've had over the last twenty years... it's a long time isn't it? What did they amount to? (I'll happily pardon Taylor).

[chrisw1]

It's nothing to do ganging up or being of a different opinion.  It's just being called out on pretty ridiculous statements like 'it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades'

We're all on the same side and want him to do well.  That doesn't mean nodding along sagely when people come out with guff like this.

[chrisw1]

To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?

Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

Forgive me for analysing him a bit more deeply than whether or not he sounds like Wenger.

For what it's worth, he does a bit, actually. And whatever you might think about Arsenals success, or lack of, over Wenger's tenure, I'd find it hard to believe anyone who didn't think Wenger was one of the more intelligent managers in the Premier League. The connection is relevant, for obvious reasons.

Well Lambert was as intelligible as Fergie.  Alas, there the similarities ended.

Guarde has achieved nothing yet.  And whilst he does interview well, if Pulis had come in and got us two wins out of 14 people would be ripping their hair out.

Don't get me wrong, I like the guy and hope he has huge success for us over many years.  But at this stage your comments are pretty ridiculous.  And questioning the integrity of every manager we've had in the last 20 years due to limited on field success is pretty damn harsh.
 

I don't think they are ridiculous, Chris. I'm visiualising a future with an intelligent man in charge.

The managers we've had over the last twenty years... it's a long time isn't it? What did they amount to? (I'll happily pardon Taylor).

Look, we're not a million miles apart here.  I quite like him and agree he sounds good in interviews.  But I'm not ready to make the huge leap of faith you have yet.  Of course if he follows through with a good end of season and very good year next, then I'll be right with you, albeit maybe a bit more measured in praise.

[old man villa fan]

I believe we now have a manager with ideas that match current football. I think we have to go back quite a while to find one of our managers whose ideas were not from the past.

[Ads]

He's the manager we needed instead of McLiesh.

[LeeB]

He's the manager we needed instead of McLiesh.

Yes.

[brian green]

In a nutshell. He is the manager we needed when we got McLeish.  If we lose Remi Garde now the loss to us in the long term would make relegation seem insignificant.

[PaulWinch again]

Remi is playing a smart game getting Lescott onside as well.

[peter w]

Good point. Lescott has been very good for us for about a month or so now. Which is why he was spared after Gumgate and Guzan dropped.

[Jimbo]

He's the manager we needed instead of Houllier.

Fixed.

[Legion]

He's the manager we needed instead of Houllier.

Fixed.

Good point. Or possibly after Houllier.

[Jimbo]

He's the manager we needed instead of Houllier.

Fixed.

Good point. Or possibly after Houllier.

Houllier was a mistake, I think. He was too arrogant, didn't understand the club and was destined for another stint in hospital. Besides which, despite the revisionist view, he tried to change too much too soon, and was't very good.

I don't know what his circumstances were at the time, but Garde could have followed O'Neill, I think he'd still be here now and we'd be in good health.