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Author Topic: Remi Garde - Departs Aston Villa  (Read 942066 times)

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3435 on: January 25, 2016, 12:22:38 PM »
I think it is about quality. I think he has got the formation working for him now, it is about a bit more composure and quality in midfield and up front.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3436 on: January 25, 2016, 12:34:20 PM »
We are still lacking confidence. You can see that from the fullbacks and midfield players (Veretout excepted) when they turn back inside rather than driving on or not wanting to run with the ball through the middle. If Garde can get them to overcome this, we will see a vast improvement. Having said that, I think Westwood, Bacuna and a few others are past being able to change after too many years here.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3437 on: January 25, 2016, 12:36:57 PM »
Westwood and Bacuna being replaced with athletic, forward thinking midfielders would be wonderful.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3438 on: January 25, 2016, 01:02:03 PM »
SamTheMouse:

That would have been better looking back. At the time though it was pretty unthinkable. A signicant portion of us would have been in uproar at Lerner if he had sacked Sherwood over the summer (I know I would have thrown the "make your damn mind up" card at him). Even with the Southampton bunglefest and the Cup final debacle most of us were willing to blame the players for the end of season collapse.

Lerner probably expected the same as many of us this season. After giving the club all the Benteke money plus some extra we were all entitled to think relegation would not be anything to worry about in 2015/2016. Particularly given the manager openly saying that was a thing of the past.

It was only really four or six games in the penny started to drop for most of us. I dont blame Lerner or Fox or being surprised how quickly it went bad.

I do blame them for screwing up this transfer window and so far not backing Garde, but the speed with which sherwood nose dived took most of us by surprise I think.


Considering he didn't sack Lambert after near enough three years of eye wateringly bad football and results, together with any amount of shit records being broken, he was hardly likely to sack a bloke who had got us to a Cup Final and saved us from near certain relegation when he joined.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3439 on: January 25, 2016, 02:16:28 PM »
Westwood and Bacuna being replaced with athletic, forward thinking midfielders would be wonderful.

Always had a soft spot for Bacuna but then he has flattened to decieve this season.  As a wing back in a more confident team he could work quite well.  I agree that we need more invention in midfield.  Then again in the Championship Westwood may well find his level.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3440 on: January 25, 2016, 02:17:00 PM »
To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades.

The man exudes the class required for his position.

That the class requirement has been so unfulfilled for so many years leaves him situated awkwardly. His position should feel right, it should feel comfortable. It should put us at ease, but there is an imbalance. The club is a mess. The manager is not.

It might be too late for him, but I haven't given up yet, even though I notice, as we near the end of the transfer window, a drop in my interpretation of his spirit.

I think there's something special about this manager. There's something different about him. I wouldn't swap him right now, for anyone, I don't think.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3441 on: January 25, 2016, 02:17:51 PM »
I think it is about quality. I think he has got the formation working for him now, it is about a bit more composure and quality in midfield and up front.

I agree I think he's doing the best he can do with what's available to him. He's actually made us look quite solid defensively, which is no mean feat. We need more quality in the team to create and finish the chances, but until those players come in there's not a lot he can do.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3442 on: January 25, 2016, 02:19:51 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?


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« Reply #3443 on: January 25, 2016, 02:22:41 PM »
He does impress at least in somethings, and I don't doubt he is a good manager but he is still finding his feet in the English game.  Whose to say that the Championship won't be even more of a wake up call for him.  He's been put in a bad place by the club and I wish him the best.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3444 on: January 25, 2016, 02:24:55 PM »
To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades.

The man exudes the class required for his position.

That the class requirement has been so unfulfilled for so many years leaves him situated awkwardly. His position should feel right, it should feel comfortable. It should put us at ease, but there is an imbalance. The club is a mess. The manager is not.

It might be too late for him, but I haven't given up yet, even though I notice, as we near the end of the transfer window, a drop in my interpretation of his spirit.

I think there's something special about this manager. There's something different about him. I wouldn't swap him right now, for anyone, I don't think.

It's difficult to put a finger on it exactly, but I feel the same way about him.  My biggest concern was that the general fucktardery of our playing staff would leave him in an untenable position come the summer, but if he can at least sustain the current level of competence I think he'll have the majority of the support behind him even if we go.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3445 on: January 25, 2016, 02:25:49 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?



I've worked that out simply by listening to him speak.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3446 on: January 25, 2016, 02:30:45 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?



I've worked that out simply by listening to him speak.

How many decades?

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3447 on: January 25, 2016, 03:13:39 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?





Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3448 on: January 25, 2016, 04:20:01 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?





Of which we've won two?  I also quite like the cut of his jib, but that is probably just because he sounds like Wenger.  The fact that we didn't get a new manager 'bounce' has pretty much done for us this season.  It's way to early for that type of hyperbole.

Forgive me for analysing him a bit more deeply than whether or not he sounds like Wenger.

For what it's worth, he does a bit, actually. And whatever you might think about Arsenals success, or lack of, over Wenger's tenure, I'd find it hard to believe anyone who didn't think Wenger was one of the more intelligent managers in the Premier League. The connection is relevant, for obvious reasons.

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Re: Remi Garde - Officially - Welcome to Aston Villa
« Reply #3449 on: January 25, 2016, 04:20:36 PM »
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To me, it is abundantly clear that we now have a manager with more intelligence, integrity, and quiet determination than we have seen for decades

you've worked that out after a dozen games, Bob?



I've worked that out simply by listening to him speak.

How many decades?

Two. Obviously.

Come on, Chico, you're not thick.

 


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