Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?

[passitsideways]

I just cant see a better manager on the list than Moyes. Did fantastic at Preston and over 11 year period kept Everton very competitive with a moderate budget.  He was bound to of signed some shockers over the period he was in charge but also picked up some very useful players.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

This is the crux, we need a manager who is suited to working with the squad we have, blundering through until January when we can let a manager put his mark on the squad isn't really an option, we need to perform well and pick up a decent number of points in the next 2 months.

To be fair, he signed Juan Mata as well. Okay, he didn't use him all that well, but I don't think you can infer anything based off who he's signed - it speaks more about available resources than anything.

[rob_bridge]

If it does turn out to be Garde I will wonder if this was the plan all along. Maybe we wanted him in Jan but he wouldn't come when we were past the transfer window and had less than half the season left, so we went for Sherwood to get the new manager bounce but always had it in mind to go back to Garde if we didn't start this season well. I know it's a stretch to think the club are that clever but you never know.

I'd be utterly shocked if that were the case. That means our senior management had a plan, foresight beyond many and an ability to execute it.

[mr underhill]

 Tim's compo will reduce if he gets a job before this time next year apparently, so let's hope he goes to Swindon pronto

[Tony Erdington]

Look at it this way. If Sherwood with way less games to go, in a far more desperate situation can rescue this club with next to no experience as a manager, then I have no doubt Remi Garde can. And I would rather take the upside of Remi Garde and his brand of football and management than Moyes.

Indeed and I think knowledge of the French league, given where we've signed a lot of our players from, makes it a potentially smart appointment.

Makes it seem like this move has been under consideration for quite some time to me. Which I think is a good thing.

I was thinking about that last night. Why would the club give Sherwood a four deal and then if true not give him full control over transfers? Why would the club make him manager and then say to him we aren't going to agree to your choice of English guff players and we are going in this completely different direction instead?

The pay off is apparently £2m which in the grand scheme of things in the PL is nothing at all. You can't even buy an Andi Weimann for that and also suggests it isn't the full amount of the remaining three plus years. There must have been some kind of clause in there to cut short the marriage. So I was thinking about what transpired. I imagine that they brought him in because they needed a spark. A gamble yes, but he gave them what they needed at the time which was the very opposite of Lambert. And he might have been the only available manager to give them that. We get over the line and now the board are thinking they will see how it all plays out but just so we're not stuck with the types of transfers that got us into the mess in the first place they deny him the ability to sign everyone he wants. That starts the rift. That rift grows and widens and Sherwood, completely unable to manage through it without throwing grenades starts to fall apart. The board as they should start planning ahead and have their target in place. They give him a leaked deadline to fix it knowing full well he won't and fire him as planned after Swansea. All of a sudden a football manager emerges from out of nowhere that mysteriously embodies, or at least it would appear the direction the club took in the summer. Not Moyes, not Rodgers or Pearson. But a French bloke with the right attributes on his resume, a strong Arsenal link, and an apparent ability to work with young players on a tight budget. It seems all too convenient and a little far fetched, but there might be something in it.

Well argued Toronto.

I still want stability that I believe Moyes would bring, and his appointment (to me) would also say "were not fucking about!"

[claretandblue barmy]

I just cant see a better manager on the list than Moyes. Did fantastic at Preston and over 11 year period kept Everton very competitive with a moderate budget.  He was bound to of signed some shockers over the period he was in charge but also picked up some very useful players.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

This is the crux, we need a manager who is suited to working with the squad we have, blundering through until January when we can let a manager put his mark on the squad isn't really an option, we need to perform well and pick up a decent number of points in the next 2 months.

I can only argue the case for the managers I know about, my footballing knowledge may not be as great as all those who are hoping for Garde, If he is the chosen one I will back him 100% as I did with Sherwood.

[LTA]

Having just heard Dwight Yorke on Talkshite, I'm convinced he's the man for us. As he said, he'd be ideal after having spent 10 years at the club, having a great relationship with the fans, got his coaching badges and been a pundit on loads of games on Sky over the years. And he's not one of these managers who don't do anything but keep on getting jobs (take that, Allardyce!). Yep he's the man for me alright!

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear

Stop begging for a job Dwight.  It's embarrassing.

[Tony Erdington]

Having just heard Dwight Yorke on Talkshite, I'm convinced he's the man for us. As he said, he'd be ideal after having spent 10 years at the club, having a great relationship with the fans, got his coaching badges and been a pundit on loads of games on Sky over the years. And he's not one of these managers who don't do anything but keep on getting jobs (take that, Allardyce!). Yep he's the man for me alright!

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear

Stop begging for a job Dwight.  It's embarrassing.

Roast pork endeared himself to the Holte when the twat signed for small heath and said small heath were a bigger club than Aston Villa, Dwight old son no thank you.

[rob_bridge]

The next manager is Tim Sherwood.

Sacking him was just a joke.

[Ger Regan]

Looks like rodgers is out of the running

[Tony Erdington]

I just cant see a better manager on the list than Moyes. Did fantastic at Preston and over 11 year period kept Everton very competitive with a moderate budget.  He was bound to of signed some shockers over the period he was in charge but also picked up some very useful players.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

This is the crux, we need a manager who is suited to working with the squad we have, blundering through until January when we can let a manager put his mark on the squad isn't really an option, we need to perform well and pick up a decent number of points in the next 2 months.

I can only argue the case for the managers I know about, my footballing knowledge may not be as great as all those who are hoping for Garde, If he is the chosen one I will back him 100% as I did with Sherwood.

Dont a lot of managers go back to clubs theyve managed and bring in players? Fellaini may not have done it for manure, but Tim Cahill seemed to have had a good career at Goodison and I thought he was a right pain in the arse when he played against.

[LeeB]

Yeah, not to mention that (and working solely of memory here so will probably be wrong) a lot of his bigger purchases at everton were relative failures.

Mixed bag.

Fellanni was a massive success and sold at big profit
Biliyabollocov was largely average
Yakubu was Yakubu - bullied rubbish teams for a year and half before getting bored.
Jagielka and Baines have been big successes and they made a big profit (god knows how) on Andy Johnson

Yeah I just had a look at a list of his signings. You can throw james beattie and heitinga into the mix too. There's no denying his ability to spot a bargain, but when you get above the 5 / 6 million figure, it certainly isn't an unqualified success.

Beattie was shite. Heitinga was decent. Van Der Meyde was another shocker

Who was that centre half he signed that got destroyed by Milan Baros on Boxing Day? Think he only lasted 6 months.

[Ger Regan]

Koldrup?

[olaftab]

Having just heard Dwight Yorke on Talkshite, I'm convinced he's the man for us. As he said, he'd be ideal after having spent 10 years at the club, having a great relationship with the fans, got his coaching badges and been a pundit on loads of games on Sky over the years. And he's not one of these managers who don't do anything but keep on getting jobs (take that, Allardyce!). Yep he's the man for me alright!

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear

Stop begging for a job Dwight.  It's embarrassing.

Now where is that gun??

[ChicagoLion]

I just cant see a better manager on the list than Moyes. Did fantastic at Preston and over 11 year period kept Everton very competitive with a moderate budget.  He was bound to of signed some shockers over the period he was in charge but also picked up some very useful players.

but do you think a manager who has signed Fellaini twice and signed Tim Cahill is going to be happy with Gil and Grealish as his attacking central midfield options?

This is the crux, we need a manager who is suited to working with the squad we have, blundering through until January when we can let a manager put his mark on the squad isn't really an option, we need to perform well and pick up a decent number of points in the next 2 months.

I can only argue the case for the managers I know about, my footballing knowledge may not be as great as all those who are hoping for Garde, If he is the chosen one I will back him 100% as I did with Sherwood.

Dont a lot of managers go back to clubs theyve managed and bring in players? Fellaini may not have done it for manure, but Tim Cahill seemed to have had a good career at Goodison and I thought he was a right pain in the arse when he played against.

Cahill was bought from Millwall after Gregory tried to sign him

[Dave]

The foreign vs not-foreign argument distilled nicely:

Harry Redknapp has perfected his ‘white noise for hire’ schtick – getting paid twice for essentially saying the same things to the Evening Standard and the Daily Telegraph in the last few days – namely that British bosses do not get a chance in English football. Boo-hoo.

‘Another week in the Premier League, another managerial casualty and further proof of how hard it has become for British coaches to get a top job in England,’ begins his column.

We will stop you there (for the first of many times): Tim Sherwood’s sacking is proof only that Tim Sherwood was sh*t at his job. Carry on…

‘Tim is someone I have a lot of time for. He is enthusiastic and has strong opinions.’

Which of course is exactly what you need to thrive as a Premier League manager; a keen and arsey Mediawatch expects to get a call about the Villa job this week.

‘For the vast majority of British managers, the only way to manage at a Premier League club is to get promoted and, even then, it is very difficult to progress further.’

Delicious lack of irony there while talking about the sacking of a manager who somehow got two Premier League jobs with no previous managerial experience. As pointed out before by Mediawatch, Steve McClaren and Garry Monk also have Premier League jobs without ever being promoted into the Premier League.

‘There are only seven clubs that at the start of the season you would say were stabilised in the league and not at threat of relegation: Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool, Everton and Tottenham Hotspur. How many have a British manager? None.’

Which sounds like a very good case for foreign managers to Mediawatch.

‘I would like to see some far more British boys get an opportunity to manage a big club and see what they can do.’

Like David Moyes at Manchester United, Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool and Tim Sherwood at Tottenham? We saw exactly what they could do, Harry.

‘Tony Pulis would never have managed in the Premier League unless he had got promoted with Stoke City.’

He’s absolutely right; Pulis would not have been a Premier League manager unless he was successful as a manager.

‘Rémi Garde is now looking massive favourite for the Aston Villa job but, with the greatest respect, why? What’s he done?’

Won the French cup, reached the last 16 of the Champions League and the quarter-finals of the Europa League. You’re welcome.

‘How often do British managers get an opportunity to manage in Italy, Germany or France?’

How often do British managers learn another language and apply for jobs in other countries?

‘All the other clubs, on a bad season, can drop into it as we have seen this season at Villa, Sunderland and Newcastle. As a manager that obviously puts you at risk.’

Or they can thrive like West Ham (who replaced a British manager with a foreign) and Leicester City (who replaced a British manager with a foreign).

‘Not many British managers have had a chance at those top seven clubs but, of those that have, I think we have more than held our own. Sir Alex Ferguson is obviously a one-off but look also at the job Moyes did at Everton.’

And definitely don’t look at the job Moyes did at Manchester United.