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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #720 on: October 26, 2015, 10:43:49 AM »
Plane just landed at bhx . Looks like it's come from Europe . You heard it here first

I wondered where N'Zogbia had been.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #721 on: October 26, 2015, 10:48:25 AM »
I want someone who can't remember Gabby or Lescott from 6 years ago

Fixed.

Can you imagine someone taking over who likes technical players and what they would think of those 2.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #722 on: October 26, 2015, 10:54:05 AM »
How many French players have we got at the club now ?


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #723 on: October 26, 2015, 10:55:36 AM »
So of the 4 possibles

1) Moyes - good track record at a similar club. Would scrap us out of the mess and make us a mid table team over the next 2 years. Football wouldn't be pretty though. If we go down as worse case he has good experience and record in the league below.
2) Rodgers - fine football. Like Moyes last job was a little too big for him. Good thinker and network of contacts. Board structure shouldn't faze him. Down side - no experience of a dogfight but like Moyes good record should worse come to pass
3) Garde - on paper good but not sure if he has quality to turn this set of players around and if the worse transpires not sure how he would cut it in Championship.
4) Pearson - I think he did a fine job at Leicester both time. Main downside he is another combustible character and we were fed up with the last one.


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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #724 on: October 26, 2015, 10:56:41 AM »
How many French players have we got at the club now ?

Including N'Zogbia or just realistic playing propositions?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #725 on: October 26, 2015, 11:00:46 AM »
Look at it this way. If Sherwood with way less games to go, in a far more desperate situation can rescue this club with next to no experience as a manager, then I have no doubt Remi Garde can. And I would rather take the upside of Remi Garde and his brand of football and management than Moyes.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #726 on: October 26, 2015, 11:02:39 AM »
No PL experience does not necessarily mean a manager can't succeed. While there have been plenty of foreign failures there have been some who did well, even at mid-level clubs.  Pochettino and Koeman for example, Laudrup for a while,  and Bilic seems to be doing quite well so far.  The thought of Moyes as manager really does not appeal.  I suppose he might keep us up but I've had enough of dour Scots and their dour brand of football.  I also don't think his rather attritional approach would suit our current squad.  Foreign coaches tend to be much better at tactics and I'd rather we looked abroad.   I'm also struggling to understand why anyone would vote for someone like Dyche.   Whilst he seems a great bloke but his only experience of the PL was getting relegated.  We may as well hire McLeish again.   

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #727 on: October 26, 2015, 11:06:12 AM »
So of the 4 possibles

1) Moyes - good track record at a similar club. Would scrap us out of the mess and make us a mid table team over the next 2 years. Football wouldn't be pretty though. If we go down as worse case he has good experience and record in the league below.
2) Rodgers - fine football. Like Moyes last job was a little too big for him. Good thinker and network of contacts. Board structure shouldn't faze him. Down side - no experience of a dogfight but like Moyes good record should worse come to pass
3) Garde - on paper good but not sure if he has quality to turn this set of players around and if the worse transpires not sure how he would cut it in Championship.
4) Pearson - I think he did a fine job at Leicester both time. Main downside he is another combustible character and we were fed up with the last one.

Nice summary.

To be fair to Moyes, I always thought Everton played decent football.  Not sure about PNE before that though. 

Garde is the managerial equivalent of this summer's player recruitment policy.  Consistent approach to be fair - but risky.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #728 on: October 26, 2015, 11:06:19 AM »
He played in England for three years back when it was much less like European football in terms of physicality and scrappiness, so he knows what's going on.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #729 on: October 26, 2015, 11:07:33 AM »
I've just heard (and this has yet to be confirmed so don't quote me on this) but there are likely to be huge rumours on Twitter and Facebook today. I will reveal more as and when I have ascertained the facts. What I gather from several reputable news outlets is that it all is indisputable and furthermore set in stone. Stand by for updates.

I wonder if you're talking about the same rumours I have heard from my reputable source, who I can't name but who is definitely ITK, who has told me it's going to be someone we've heard of but would not necessarily expect, depending on our knowledge, but they're just talking to someone else predictable first (can't say who but I think we can all guess - not that one but the other one), just to see what his plans are, but unless something very unlikely happens it's definitely going to be the one I didn't mention first. Is that the one, Bish? (By the way, keep it under your hat, everyone, I haven't said anything).

Will PM you with details as soon as my source has or indeed has not verified the aforementioned.


Stop being naughty

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #730 on: October 26, 2015, 11:16:40 AM »
Interesting part of that four four two article, particularly in light of saunders' "stand up to the board" requirement.

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One thing that may worry owner Mike Ashley is Garde’s stubbornness to protect his project. The former Lyon coach is not one to sit back and let those above him walk all over his hard work. Last January, when Napoli made a €13 million bid for Garde’s captain Gonalons, the coach, understanding the importance of his midfield protector, gave the board an ultimatum.

Garde was willing to quit Les Gones there and then if Gonalons was sold. It was all or nothing, and Garde came out on top. Fournier has Garde to thank for the exceptional season Gonalons is having at the heart of the French league leaders.

I have to say, the more I read into him, the more garde seems to make sense. After not knowing all that much about him to begin with, I really hope this comes off now.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #731 on: October 26, 2015, 11:17:05 AM »
No PL experience does not necessarily mean a manager can't succeed. While there have been plenty of foreign failures there have been some who did well, even at mid-level clubs.  Pochettino and Koeman for example, Laudrup for a while,  and Bilic seems to be doing quite well so far.  The thought of Moyes as manager really does not appeal.  I suppose he might keep us up but I've had enough of dour Scots and their dour brand of football.  I also don't think his rather attritional approach would suit our current squad.  Foreign coaches tend to be much better at tactics and I'd rather we looked abroad.   I'm also struggling to understand why anyone would vote for someone like Dyche.   Whilst he seems a great bloke but his only experience of the PL was getting relegated.  We may as well hire McLeish again.   

The Watford manager looks like he could turn out to be another.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #732 on: October 26, 2015, 11:19:14 AM »
Interesting part of that four four two article, particularly in light of saunders' "stand up to the board" requirement.

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One thing that may worry owner Mike Ashley is Garde’s stubbornness to protect his project. The former Lyon coach is not one to sit back and let those above him walk all over his hard work. Last January, when Napoli made a €13 million bid for Garde’s captain Gonalons, the coach, understanding the importance of his midfield protector, gave the board an ultimatum.

Garde was willing to quit Les Gones there and then if Gonalons was sold. It was all or nothing, and Garde came out on top. Fournier has Garde to thank for the exceptional season Gonalons is having at the heart of the French league leaders.

I have to say, the more I read into him, the more garde seems to make sense. After not knowing all that much about him to begin with, I really hope this comes off now.

Also, how exactly did Moyes stand up to the board and get them to release more money for players at Everton? Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought Kenwright is renowned and reviled as one of the world's meanest chairmen.

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #733 on: October 26, 2015, 11:22:28 AM »
I think Alan Hutton is fluent in French.

Alain de Hutton



With a broad Scottish accent??

Hutton dressed up as Mouton?

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Re: Who do you want the next Villa manager to be?
« Reply #734 on: October 26, 2015, 11:23:20 AM »
Yeah, not to mention that (and working solely of memory here so will probably be wrong) a lot of his bigger purchases at everton were relative failures.

 


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