Aston Villa vs. West Brom Post-Debacle Thread

[LukeJames]

For all the criticism that TS is getting for his tactics, part of the problem today is simply that our forward options are completely and utterly shite. The backwards and sideways passing were as a direct result of no movement or runs from the forwards...what are the midfield supposed to do if the forwards just stand their marking their markers?!

Then he should have  signed a forward that fucking moves.

Thats exactly what I'm trying to say...

I know mate, weirdly I still have hopes for Ayew, I genuinly don't know why, hes looked dog shit awful but early days and all that :-/

[Phil from the upper holte]

I'm surprised at the criticism of Sanchez. In the first half it was basically him and Guzan + nine passengers. We could easily have been four time at half time if not for those two.

Everything was just so telegraphed. It started with Guzan, who passed to Lescott. Lescott passed to Amavi, who passed it back to Lescott. He passed it to Westwood to put wide to Gil. He did a smart shimmy to take it past two of their players and into their half. There was nobody to really pass to, so he'd check back and pass to Sanchez. Sanchez would pass back to Lescott and we'd repeat the above a couple of times.

And at some point Fletcher would just step forward and take the ball off us. It was just like the Lambert times when passing sideways across the midfield wasn't a means to an end, it was both the means AND the end.

As for Bacuna coming on, I wonder if Sherwood saw any of last week's criticism and thought "alright you fuckers, you want an extra midfielder on? Here you go then". I can't really see any other logic behind it.

I thought he brought him on to get it in the Box for Gestede but I know your probably being a bit sarcastic.

[Des Little]

Haven't read the thread. That was total and utter shit. No excuses, the best team won but fuck me Sherwood you'd better sort this lot out or you won't see Xmas. Garbage.

[Steve67]

Gabby is truly shit. Drop him or get sacked. For many of the rest, it will take time to get them fit and playing obsessively but quite why Sherwood wants to pin his hopes on a guy who scores four goals a season God only knows.

[Dave]

As for Bacuna coming on, I wonder if Sherwood saw any of last week's criticism and thought "alright you fuckers, you want an extra midfielder on? Here you go then". I can't really see any other logic behind it.

I thought he brought him on to get it in the Box for Gestede but I know your probably being a bit sarcastic.

Not really. If he and the coaching staff thought that Bacuna --> cross --> Gestede was the best chance to score the goals to beat West Brom (and although I'd disagree, it's not a ridiculous idea) , don't fucking make today the first league game to leave Bacuna out of the team this season.

[KRS]

Surprised no one has mentioned the penalty claim...looked well inside the box from me

It was, but he turned his back on the cross and it didn't look like it hit his hand. If we'd been penalised for that I'd have been livid.

What was the freekick given for then if it wasn't flagged for the handball?

It was given for a deliberate handball. It was just never a deliberate handball.

In which case it should have been a penalty then if they deemed it to be deliberate handball? (regardless of whether it was or not)

[Dave]

Surprised no one has mentioned the penalty claim...looked well inside the box from me

It was, but he turned his back on the cross and it didn't look like it hit his hand. If we'd been penalised for that I'd have been livid.

What was the freekick given for then if it wasn't flagged for the handball?

It was given for a deliberate handball. It was just never a deliberate handball.

In which case it should have been a penalty then if they deemed it to be deliberate handball? (regardless of whether it was or not)

Yes, absolutely - what happened, happened in the box, and if they thought there was something to be penalised it should have been a penalty.

It's just that nothing should have been given regardless of where the linesman imagined this event happening.

[PeterWithesShin]

They got it wrong twice with one incident. That's impressive going.

[KRS]

But it did, they did and it should have been!

[Dave]

They got it wrong twice with one incident. That's impressive going.

When Gil lifted it towards nobody in particular, it's one of the very few occasions where two wrongs actually did make a right.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Any one see the fucking tweet from the Albion?@WBAFCofficial: Over to you @BCFC

Best Wishes,

#WBA

[KRS]

#giveatoss

[PeterWithesShin]

Any one see the fucking tweet from the Albion?@WBAFCofficial: Over to you @BCFC

Best Wishes,

#WBA

The ultimate small time mentality.

[LukeJames]

Any one see the fucking tweet from the Albion?@WBAFCofficial: Over to you @BCFC

Best Wishes,

#WBA

Football fwiends.

[Phil from the upper holte]

As for Bacuna coming on, I wonder if Sherwood saw any of last week's criticism and thought "alright you fuckers, you want an extra midfielder on? Here you go then". I can't really see any other logic behind it.

I thought he brought him on to get it in the Box for Gestede but I know your probably being a bit sarcastic.

Not really. If he and the coaching staff thought that Bacuna --> cross --> Gestede was the best chance to score the goals to beat West Brom (and although I'd disagree, it's not a ridiculous idea) , don't fucking make today the first league game to leave Bacuna out of the team this season.

Agreed