Quote from: Dave on July 08, 2015, 03:22:56 PMWhen transfer fee x wages x length of contract x potential resale value are all factored in, there can't be too many who have cost us more compared with what they have delivered.It's forgivable of course, but surely you haven't forgotten Balaban?
When transfer fee x wages x length of contract x potential resale value are all factored in, there can't be too many who have cost us more compared with what they have delivered.
Quote from: Risso on July 08, 2015, 10:44:42 PMQuote from: Dave on July 08, 2015, 03:22:56 PMWhen transfer fee x wages x length of contract x potential resale value are all factored in, there can't be too many who have cost us more compared with what they have delivered.It's forgivable of course, but surely you haven't forgotten Balaban?Nah, I don't reckon he's a contender.If we were doing something along the lines of "minutes played versus total expenditure" then he'd probably be right up there, but a £5.8m transfer fee and £20,000 per week for two years doesn't come close to £9.5m plus around £40,000 per week for four and a half years, even allowing for inflation and increases in income.
Quote from: Dave on July 08, 2015, 11:04:57 PMQuote from: Risso on July 08, 2015, 10:44:42 PMQuote from: Dave on July 08, 2015, 03:22:56 PMWhen transfer fee x wages x length of contract x potential resale value are all factored in, there can't be too many who have cost us more compared with what they have delivered.It's forgivable of course, but surely you haven't forgotten Balaban?Nah, I don't reckon he's a contender.If we were doing something along the lines of "minutes played versus total expenditure" then he'd probably be right up there, but a £5.8m transfer fee and £20,000 per week for two years doesn't come close to £9.5m plus around £40,000 per week for four and a half years, even allowing for inflation and increases in income.But Balaban literally did nothing at all, whereas N'Zog has had the odd good game at least.
I honestly have no idea how Stephen Ireland won player of the year. He was fucking terrible. Maybe he was slightly less terrible than some of the others, but I'd still have had Petrov for half a season, or Robbie Keane for 10 games ahead of Ireland that season. Or Given.
The scary thing about this conversation is that are so many contenders for the 'biggest waste of money award'. From every managerial tenure in recent history you can find a Curcic, an Alpay or a Kachloul. Players who have got nowhere near to justifying their cost. Obviously, this happens to a certain degree at most clubs, but I reckon we're right-up there in terms of costly signings over the past 20 years.That's not to mention managerial and coaching staff either...
Quote from: RussellC on July 09, 2015, 12:35:42 PMThe scary thing about this conversation is that are so many contenders for the 'biggest waste of money award'. From every managerial tenure in recent history you can find a Curcic, an Alpay or a Kachloul. Players who have got nowhere near to justifying their cost. Obviously, this happens to a certain degree at most clubs, but I reckon we're right-up there in terms of costly signings over the past 20 years.That's not to mention managerial and coaching staff either...You forgot the Djemba Twins
Alpay and Mellberg were a very good partnership for a couple of seasons. He went off a cliff, but it wasn't 5.5m(?) badly spent.
Quote from: RussellC on July 09, 2015, 12:35:42 PMThe scary thing about this conversation is that are so many contenders for the 'biggest waste of money award'. From every managerial tenure in recent history you can find a Curcic, an Alpay or a Kachloul. Players who have got nowhere near to justifying their cost. Obviously, this happens to a certain degree at most clubs, but I reckon we're right-up there in terms of costly signings over the past 20 years.That's not to mention managerial and coaching staff either...Not sure I agree on Alpay, things went badly wrong with the way he left but before that last season or so he'd looked well worth the fee.