Lambert's replacement

[Dave]

I'd take McLeish back over Sherwood.

In fact, I'd back David O'Leary to do better with this squad than Tim Sherwood.

Really?

Absolutely.

We might as well appoint Gabby as player-manager as make Sherwood manager. Gabby would probably show more tactical acumen.

[OCD]

If all this is due to reports of us talking to Sherwood, I don't have much of an issue with it. He's available so holding a meeting isn't exactly unforgivable. I would want to talk to as many as possible. That doesn't mean I want Sherwood, at least not on a long-term basis when he's unproven. He might be able to get a short-term response out of them that could be enough for us to survive the season. I would much rather have an experienced foreign coach along the lines of the last 2 Southampton appointments.

[citizenDJ]

Edit: A quick look here suggest Walker played right wing in that game, not centre-midfield http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/jose-mourinho-was-delighted-kyle-walker-played-in-midfield-for-spurs-at-chelsea/

It certainly seems to have impressed Mourinho:

And, The Special One had an intriguing critique of Tim Sherwood’s tactics – wondering why Kyle Walker played right wing.

Mourinho makes the comments around the 2:25 mark on the video above: “For us it was very good Walker played right winger because when he plays right back I have to control it in a different way. And I have to give a defensive job to my left winger. When Walker plays against Azpilicueta, he was in the pocket! Was good for us!”

But it's hardly the same as playing him in centre-midfield, is it?

[supertom]

I suppose he played a significant role in the rise to prominence of Bentaleb and Kane. He also got the best out of Adebayor who up until that point had been frozen out and dis-interested under AVB.

The hope is that perhaps 1-2 of our youngsters (Grealish) and 1-2 underperforming senior players (notably Benteke and Gabby) manage to have a purple patch under him. We certainly need that sort of instant impact from someone, anyone really.
If he can get a spring in the step of a few of our better players then it may make up for his lack of tactical nous. We need any inspiration we can get.

Fingers crossed and hope for the best.

[passitsideways]

If it's for any longer than 15 months or however long it is until the end of next season, they're a bunch of utter pillocks.

[Des Little]

He's not my first choice, he's probably no ones first choice, but if he gets the job I'll get behind him and the team. We all will, because that's what's important now. If he keeps us up I'll take my hat off to him, if he doesn't I dare say I'll criticise him but until I know what the outcome is I'll reserve judgement and hope for the best.

[Toronto Villa]

I've never given a fuck what a Spurs fan thinks and I don't intend to start now.

Neither do I, usually, but when my fears about a manager are confirmed by someone who has spent a lot more time watching him at work than I have, I worry.

I don't know what to make of all of the player positional stories. Ferguson over the years played all kinds of players in odd positions but found ways to win. Not in the least trying to place Sherwood in the Ferguson bracket off course but just offering aome perspective to one persons observations. I mean MON having full backs played them on the bench and CB's and CM'a at RB, and even LVG at Man U now is playing Rooney in a deep midfield role.

Sherwood being an arrogant cock is without dispute though.

[Villa in Denmark]

I'm trying to be positive so bear with me. In Sherwood I see shades of JG. Arrogant, brash, self important, relatively inexperienced as manager and somewhat naive. Despite this, I really liked Gregory and although it was a lot about him, he did seem to get the players at it, most notably in his first half season. Could Sherwood do the same?

And exactly like JG, he got away with it to start with, at least in part because of his existing relationship with the players.

He'd be coming here without that relationship, nothing to command respect, but a great deal of suspicion if our players  listened to some of his post match interviews last season.

Car crash viewing at it's very worst.

[Dave]

I've never given a fuck what a Spurs fan thinks and I don't intend to start now.

Neither do I, usually, but when my fears about a manager are confirmed by someone who has spent a lot more time watching him at work than I have, I worry.

It would be a bit like a Sunderland fan saying "I've never given a fuck what a Villa fan thinks" when we were pointing out O'Neill's myriad flaws.

Every Spurs fan on the planet seems to be delighted to be rid of him and enjoying a manager who is competent. That's not normally the sign of sour grapes.

[Steve kirk]

I think Sherwood is good as we realistically can get right now. i really don't think the club want a long-term appointment right now and may even wait until the summer contractually, or at least let Sherwood know that he is in charge but it will be re-assessed in the summer. For all the names bandied around very few would consider joining a tough fight at this point of the season wherever they may be managing right now.

Put aside what anyone may think of Sherwood now, if he is indeed confirmed, because he has every chance of us doing a Gregory when he come in. Sometimes it just clicks and we all know there is a team potentially in there. If he keeps us up and has done in it well then he will have deserved a chance of staying in charge for next season. If we are up and down and survive by the skin of our teeth I don't think he'll be in charge newt season. Then more other-employed managers will become interested. It could also go shit, but that's where we are now.

A very sensible post amongst the Sherwood hysteria on here.

[pauliewalnuts]

Edit: A quick look here suggest Walker played right wing in that game, not centre-midfield http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/jose-mourinho-was-delighted-kyle-walker-played-in-midfield-for-spurs-at-chelsea/

It certainly seems to have impressed Mourinho:

And, The Special One had an intriguing critique of Tim Sherwood’s tactics – wondering why Kyle Walker played right wing.

Mourinho makes the comments around the 2:25 mark on the video above: “For us it was very good Walker played right winger because when he plays right back I have to control it in a different way. And I have to give a defensive job to my left winger. When Walker plays against Azpilicueta, he was in the pocket! Was good for us!”

But it's hardly the same as playing him in centre-midfield, is it?

Even if you accept that, what about all the other points?

What about the total lack of evidence that a rookie manager with 20 odd league games under his belt prior to getting the sack is going to be able to lift a team currently sat in 18th position in the league with 13 matches left?

Where's the evidence he's going to be able to do that?

And I don't mean evidence that means you can't rule him out of being able to - ie the "sometimes it just clicks" argument, which is basically random - I mean "yes, this makes me think Sherwood is the best appointment we can make"?

I haven't seen any of that from anyone. The closest I've seen is "He's got to be better than Lambert" (which is the ultimate in pointless arguments as it means precisely nothing) and "he's the best we can get" (which strikes me as strange when we're talking about a job which probably has a £2m salary).

I'm totally willing to be convinced this is a good idea, but all I have seen so far is the argument that he's not someone else, and we can't attract a top notch manager.

[pauliewalnuts]

He's not my first choice, he's probably no ones first choice, but if he gets the job I'll get behind him and the team. We all will, because that's what's important now. If he keeps us up I'll take my hat off to him, if he doesn't I dare say I'll criticise him but until I know what the outcome is I'll reserve judgement and hope for the best.

What is most important is making the best appointment we can.

[caster troy]

I've been off the grid, why is everyone talking about Sherwood like it's a done deal? They can't be seriously thinking about putting Aston Villa's fate in the hands of Tim Sherwood surely!? Only if another 100 managers turned us down first should we be desperate enough to give him the job FFS.

[citizenDJ]

Edit: A quick look here suggest Walker played right wing in that game, not centre-midfield http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/jose-mourinho-was-delighted-kyle-walker-played-in-midfield-for-spurs-at-chelsea/

It certainly seems to have impressed Mourinho:

And, The Special One had an intriguing critique of Tim Sherwood’s tactics – wondering why Kyle Walker played right wing.

Mourinho makes the comments around the 2:25 mark on the video above: “For us it was very good Walker played right winger because when he plays right back I have to control it in a different way. And I have to give a defensive job to my left winger. When Walker plays against Azpilicueta, he was in the pocket! Was good for us!”

But it's hardly the same as playing him in centre-midfield, is it?

Even if you accept that, what about all the other points?

What about the total lack of evidence that a rookie manager with 20 odd league games under his belt prior to getting the sack is going to be able to lift a team currently sat in 18th position in the league with 13 matches left?

Where's the evidence he's going to be able to do that?

And I don't mean evidence that means you can't rule him out of being able to - ie the "sometimes it just clicks" argument, which is basically random - I mean "yes, this makes me think Sherwood is the best appointment we can make"?

I haven't seen any of that from anyone. The closest I've seen is "He's got to be better than Lambert" (which is the ultimate in pointless arguments as it means precisely nothing) and "he's the best we can get" (which strikes me as strange when we're talking about a job which probably has a £2m salary).

I'm totally willing to be convinced this is a good idea, but all I have seen so far is the argument that he's not someone else, and we can't attract a top notch manager.

Well, that's just it, isn't it? If we're talking about a results business, then his (very limited) record stands up. I take the point about it being with a good team and whatnot. But he did OK. Which means the 'evidence' is on his side.

Again, I think he's a prat, but I also think he is a viable candidate for us right now (a shame, but there we are).

[silhillvilla]

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