The Cricket Thread 2016

[peter w]

Exactly. It's horses for courses. Vince may react more positively to being dropped, he may react better to be given more time. If the team wins it's easier to give anyone more time.

[PaulWinch again]

I think Vince should stay in. I rate him, but he needs to learn the mentality of a Test player. He can only learn that at this level.

[Villafirst]

Vince isn't good enough - as I said,  another Adam Lyth. Bell at 4 or 5 would be my choice.

[Villan For Life]

Vince isn't good enough - as I said,  another Adam Lyth. Bell at 4 or 5 would be my choice.

He's not scored enough runs this season to even be considered.

[Dave Cooper please]

Brilliant day for England and, again, Chris Woakes who surely is the best possible example that giving someone the time to make an impression is worth it.

Or, the best possible example that dropping someone rather than giving someone time to make a terminal bad impression is worth it.

 Yep, dropping him was the correct thing to do, he needed to work on his technique and had to lose his habit of bowling too many bad balls. He couldn't have done that if he was still in the Test team and getting walloped around the field all the time.
 Not everyone comes back from being dropped, he had to work bloody hard to get back in, really chuffed  for him, he's now pretty much another all-rounder in our team of all-rounders.

[paul_e]

dropping Woakes after the first game was probably fair enough, he wasn't ready.  Since then I don't think he's been dropped so much as other people had been out performing him.  Losing your place because other people are doing well is fine, that encourages you to put the extra effort in.  Losing your place so they can gamble on someone else is the problem and Woakes hasn't had to face that.

[spangley1812]

Pakistan 119/8 @ Lunch

[tomd2103]

Pakistan 119/8 @ Lunch

179-9 now and trailing by 410.  Wonder if England will enforce the follow on or bat for a few hours today and put them totally out of it.

[UK Redsox]

A couple of hours ago I was going to post some sarcastic remark on here about Cook not enforcing the follow on.



Blow me, he's only gone and decided to bat again.

Do you think someone higher up has had a word and said that they need to preserve ticket sales ?


Even after deciding to bat again, they should have sent out Stokes and Woakes to bat with the aim of scoring quickly.

[spangley1812]

Worried about Bowlers workloads apparently............

I hope it doesnt rain much over the next 2 and a bit days

[peter w]

dropping Woakes after the first game was probably fair enough, he wasn't ready.  Since then I don't think he's been dropped so much as other people had been out performing him.  Losing your place because other people are doing well is fine, that encourages you to put the extra effort in.  Losing your place so they can gamble on someone else is the problem and Woakes hasn't had to face that.

Losing your place because you're "outperformed" and being dropped aren't the same thing? Riiigggghhhhtttt.

[spangley1812]

And its raining again.............

[UK Redsox]

Worried about Bowlers workloads apparently............

I hope it doesnt rain much over the next 2 and a bit days

Broad and Anderson hadn't bowled since lunch

[UK Redsox]

Gower, Mikey and Shane couldn't come up with any justifiable reason not to enforce the follow-on

[Villafirst]

Hales lucky there. Another one day slash at the ball.