Kendrick Says It's Time To Ask Questions

[N'ZMAV]

The blind leading the blind...

[kippaxvilla2]

You say that because you agree with him. Would you want equal weight to be given to an opinion that you don't agree with?

Publish and be damned.  The club puts out messages tailored to its own agenda, all clubs do; why then not the other side of the story?

Because then you're headed down the road of 'fan spokesman,' giving far too much weight to individuals (particularly on the internet) and all that bollocks.

But he is reflecting the silent majority I would assert.  I really don't care if they call him Flash, Saviour of the universe, if he is reflecting the general annoyance and concern at the way the club is being run, then I am supportive.  And if anyone wants to put an opposite view then fine also - I just happen to think this would be the minority view at this point.  And no, I don't have anything other than anecdotal and general mood music to back it up.

[rob_bridge]

Paul Faulkner did do an interview with Tom Ross a few weeks back. Whether Tom asked him the right questions is another matter.

It was like being savaged by a sheep

[dave.woodhall]

Paul Faulkner did do an interview with Tom Ross a few weeks back. Whether Tom asked him the right questions is another matter.

It was like being savaged by a sheep

And there's another problem. Unless the 'right' questions are asked and the 'right' answers given it doesn't count.

[Fergal]

I may have got this wrong but I think he is asking why Dave seems to be defending, or not criticising, whilst Villa goes down the pan   I think that's what he means anyway..

So why bring the fact that he is editor of the fanzine into the debate? It has no relevance to Dave's opinion unless you think that the editorial stance of the fanzine should match your own opinions.
 It was the word "perplexing" that got me, why should it be "perplexing" that the editor of the fanzine isn't criticising Lerner and the board unless you thing that there is a reason why he isn't doing so beyond the simple fact that that is his opinion?

I find it perplexing that anyone would fail to criticise Learners handling of the club.
I personally would like the editor of the only independent fanzine and a man with over 35,000 posts on here to nail his colours to the mast. I would also like them to be the same as mine.  But that is Dave's choice to do or not do as he sees fit, he may be the editor and some may want to hear his views, but we live in a democracy so the choice is his.

[Damo70]

If we were doing okay no one would give a shit if Lerner didn't talk, it's because we are struggling that fans are demanding "answers".
He is what he is, he isn't going to talk to the press, be honest, you knew that pretty much from the start but no one was complaining when he was rebuilding the pub, getting Acorns on our shirt and people were talking about challenging for the CL in five years time!

That's true but when things seemed to be going well Randy was regularly seen at games and Krulak was a regular contributor on here -although he was usually spouting bullshit, he was at least a contact who gave the impression of caring about us.  When was the last time Lerner attended a game? Other than Carsen Yeung, how many football clubs are owned by people who never see them play? he'd be fucked if other Villa fans decided to demonstrate the same level of commitment to watching the team play

Joe Lewis and Malcolm Glazer for a start and John Henry is a very infrequent visitor to Liverpool. Don't get me wrong, I would like him to speak more and I certainly think he should show his face more often as when things are bad it gives the wrong impression of his commitment in my opinion. But he is far from on his own in his lack of interviews and attending games.

[rob_bridge]

Paul Faulkner did do an interview with Tom Ross a few weeks back. Whether Tom asked him the right questions is another matter.

It was like being savaged by a sheep

And there's another problem. Unless the 'right' questions are asked and the 'right' answers given it doesn't count.

Maybe PF could start with an unscripted interview with the afforementioned Pat Murphy on the Beeb?

That would assist all parties.

Fans who don't like being spoon fed corporate garbage and can see the state the club and specifically the team on the pitch is actually in. Ok some would object if Murphy was coming over all 'gleeful'
Murphy as he gets the next best thing to the owner and would not turn down the opportunity.
And Paul Faukner it wouldn't do him any harm at all - one way or another it can only do him and the club good.

[not3bad]

If we were doing okay no one would give a shit if Lerner didn't talk, it's because we are struggling that fans are demanding "answers".
He is what he is, he isn't going to talk to the press, be honest, you knew that pretty much from the start but no one was complaining when he was rebuilding the pub, getting Acorns on our shirt and people were talking about challenging for the CL in five years time!

That's true but when things seemed to be going well Randy was regularly seen at games and Krulak was a regular contributor on here -although he was usually spouting bullshit, he was at least a contact who gave the impression of caring about us.  When was the last time Lerner attended a game? Other than Carsen Yeung, how many football clubs are owned by people who never see them play? he'd be fucked if other Villa fans decided to demonstrate the same level of commitment to watching the team play

Joe Lewis and Malcolm Glazer for a start and John Henry is a very infrequent visitor to Liverpool.

So it's an American thing then?

[Dave Clark Five]

When was the last time Lerner attended a game?

Is this with or without being in disguise?

[aev]

When was the last time Lerner attended a game?

Is this with or without being in disguise?

He could well have turned up as Joe Bennett recently.

[mattjpa]

How anyone can't have a problem with a chairman who has presided over the decline of the club seems bizarre to me, and I'm entitled to that view. Just like Dave has the right to sit there and say nothing. I'd expect a bit more from the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine out there though.
No wonder Lerner has got away with what he's done to the team over the last 4 years with a fan base as apathetic as ours.

By repeating this I can only assume that you think Dave has some sort of agenda for not slagging off Lerner. You seem to be suggesting that Dave really does hate the board and would love to slag them off but can't for some reason.

Are you trying to insinuate something?

Are you trying to shit stir?

Not really, just wondering why you seem to think that Dave isn't allowed an opinion if it differs from yours, and why being the editor of a fanzine should mean he has to against the board and anti-the club.

I may have got this wrong but I think he is asking why Dave seems to be defending, or not criticising, whilst Villa goes down the pan   I think that's what he means anyway..

That's exactly what I meant.

Fuck it, who needs Dave anyway, Jonathon Fear will become the voice of the uprising...spesh after Culverhouse told his dad to fuck off or whatever it was.  Does anyone know his username so I can PM him?

[Chris Smith]

There is absolutely no point anyone from the board trying to speak because whatever they say will be attacked. There isn't anything they can say that would pacify fans when the team are on a poor run of results, any promises of a brighter future will understandably be dismissed with 'don't tell me, show me'. So, in practical terms all we can do is wait and see what happens and whether the hoped for summer spending comes to pass.

I like Pat Murphy too but only when he does the cricket, not sure he's that good on football in general.

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[Drummond]

The bottom line is something I found out a long time ago; the only thing that matters to the vast majority of supporters is how the team is doing. Randy could live on Mars if we were in the top half of the table. None of this week's outpouring of rage would have happened if it was us who'd scored in stoppage time on Sunday.

This sums it up perfectly for me.

[Gareth]

I may have got this wrong but I think he is asking why Dave seems to be defending, or not criticising, whilst Villa goes down the pan   I think that's what he means anyway..

So why bring the fact that he is editor of the fanzine into the debate? It has no relevance to Dave's opinion unless you think that the editorial stance of the fanzine should match your own opinions.
 It was the word "perplexing" that got me, why should it be "perplexing" that the editor of the fanzine isn't criticising Lerner and the board unless you thing that there is a reason why he isn't doing so beyond the simple fact that that is his opinion?

I find it perplexing that anyone would fail to criticise Learners handling of the club.
I personally would like the editor of the only independent fanzine and a man with over 35,000 posts on here to nail his colours to the mast. I would also like them to be the same as mine.  But that is Dave's choice to do or not do as he sees fit, he may be the editor and some may want to hear his views, but we live in a democracy so the choice is his.

I may be being thick here but when Dave said he believes we will spend this summer and will see what that brings is 'nailing colours to the mast'....