Kendrick Says It's Time To Ask Questions

[saunders_heroes]

How anyone can't have a problem with a chairman who has presided over the decline of the club seems bizarre to me, and I'm entitled to that view. Just like Dave has the right to sit there and say nothing. I'd expect a bit more from the editor of the only independent Villa fanzine out there though.
No wonder Lerner has got away with what he's done to the team over the last 4 years with a fan base as apathetic as ours.

By repeating this I can only assume that you think Dave has some sort of agenda for not slagging off Lerner. You seem to be suggesting that Dave really does hate the board and would love to slag them off but can't for some reason.

Are you trying to insinuate something?

Are you trying to shit stir?

Not really, just wondering why you seem to think that Dave isn't allowed an opinion if it differs from yours, and why being the editor of a fanzine should mean he has to against the board and anti-the club.

I may have got this wrong but I think he is asking why Dave seems to be defending, or not criticising, whilst Villa goes down the pan   I think that's what he means anyway..

That's exactly what I meant.

[Dave Cooper please]

I may have got this wrong but I think he is asking why Dave seems to be defending, or not criticising, whilst Villa goes down the pan   I think that's what he means anyway..

So why bring the fact that he is editor of the fanzine into the debate? It has no relevance to Dave's opinion unless you think that the editorial stance of the fanzine should match your own opinions.
 It was the word "perplexing" that got me, why should it be "perplexing" that the editor of the fanzine isn't criticising Lerner and the board unless you thing that there is a reason why he isn't doing so beyond the simple fact that that is his opinion?

[aev]

For what it's worth, I've always respected Pat's talents as a journalist and broadcaster, and like him personally. In particular I defended him when he was perceived as pro-Ellis. I do, though, and I said this from the start including when he asked me about it, think that he let Randy's refusal to be interviewed become personal to the point of vendetta.

Dave - do you mean Randy's refusal to be interviewed by Pat Murphy or Randy's refusal to be interviewed by anyone whatsoever?

I think his refusal to be interviewed by anyone (which for the record I don't care about - but I do think someone should be talking) was taken personally more by Pat than anyone else, for whatever reason.

It is a crazy situation really. Being such a private person and not offering interviews to the press is at odds with owning a football club, donating money to National Gallery etc. It is perfectly understandable for people to want his views and opinions.

[Dave Cooper please]

If we go down will anyone still rate Lerner or will they wait for yet another transfer window?
If Lerner does sell the club, will anyone still say he was great when he has gone?

Is anyone saying he is great?
He's done some good things which will undoubtedly stand the test of time, unfortunately he has messed up the most important part of his job as far as supporters are concerned - the playing side.

[dave.woodhall]

For what it's worth, I've always respected Pat's talents as a journalist and broadcaster, and like him personally. In particular I defended him when he was perceived as pro-Ellis. I do, though, and I said this from the start including when he asked me about it, think that he let Randy's refusal to be interviewed become personal to the point of vendetta.

Dave - do you mean Randy's refusal to be interviewed by Pat Murphy or Randy's refusal to be interviewed by anyone whatsoever?

I think his refusal to be interviewed by anyone (which for the record I don't care about - but I do think someone should be talking) was taken personally more by Pat than anyone else, for whatever reason.

It is a crazy situation really. Being such a private person and not offering interviews to the press is at odds with owning a football club, donating money to National Gallery etc. It is perfectly understandable for people to want his views and opinions.

How many football club owners do give interviews though? Paul Getty gave/gives more than Randy and he's hardly in the media spotlight.

[Dave Cooper please]

If we were doing okay no one would give a shit if Lerner didn't talk, it's because we are struggling that fans are demanding "answers".
He is what he is, he isn't going to talk to the press, be honest, you knew that pretty much from the start but no one was complaining when he was rebuilding the pub, getting Acorns on our shirt and people were talking about challenging for the CL in five years time!

[aev]

For what it's worth, I've always respected Pat's talents as a journalist and broadcaster, and like him personally. In particular I defended him when he was perceived as pro-Ellis. I do, though, and I said this from the start including when he asked me about it, think that he let Randy's refusal to be interviewed become personal to the point of vendetta.

Dave - do you mean Randy's refusal to be interviewed by Pat Murphy or Randy's refusal to be interviewed by anyone whatsoever?

I think his refusal to be interviewed by anyone (which for the record I don't care about - but I do think someone should be talking) was taken personally more by Pat than anyone else, for whatever reason.

It is a crazy situation really. Being such a private person and not offering interviews to the press is at odds with owning a football club, donating money to National Gallery etc. It is perfectly understandable for people to want his views and opinions.

How many football club owners do give interviews though? Paul Getty gave/gives more than Randy and he's hardly in the media spotlight.

I reckon we have more chance of hearing from Paul Getty now than we do RL.

Whilst it is true that not many chairman are constantly in the media (and those that are are often just as infuriating), I think that when the club appears to be struggling it would be helpful to hear from the owner.

[dave.woodhall]

For what it's worth, I've always respected Pat's talents as a journalist and broadcaster, and like him personally. In particular I defended him when he was perceived as pro-Ellis. I do, though, and I said this from the start including when he asked me about it, think that he let Randy's refusal to be interviewed become personal to the point of vendetta.

Dave - do you mean Randy's refusal to be interviewed by Pat Murphy or Randy's refusal to be interviewed by anyone whatsoever?

I think his refusal to be interviewed by anyone (which for the record I don't care about - but I do think someone should be talking) was taken personally more by Pat than anyone else, for whatever reason.

It is a crazy situation really. Being such a private person and not offering interviews to the press is at odds with owning a football club, donating money to National Gallery etc. It is perfectly understandable for people to want his views and opinions.

How many football club owners do give interviews though? Paul Getty gave/gives more than Randy and he's hardly in the media spotlight.

I reckon we have more chance of hearing from Paul Getty now than we do RL.

Whilst it is true that not many chairman are constantly in the media (and those that are are often just as infuriating), I think that when the club appears to be struggling it would be helpful to hear from the owner.

I'll repeat what I said earlier, and repeatedly. I don't care what the owner says or does but I do think that someone should be talking.

[rob_bridge]

If we were doing okay no one would give a shit if Lerner didn't talk, it's because we are struggling that fans are demanding "answers".
He is what he is, he isn't going to talk to the press, be honest, you knew that pretty much from the start but no one was complaining when he was rebuilding the pub, getting Acorns on our shirt and people were talking about challenging for the CL in five years time!

I think the point is that no-one at the club comes out and talks with any insight or substance. I don't epxect the payers to necessarily. They have been subject to cliches from an early age.

Lambert - See no evil
Faulkner - Hear no evil
Lerner - Speak no evil

[Damo70]

The Spurs owner doesn't talk, the Bolton owner they owe all the debt to doesn't talk, you hear lots of stuff from 'sources close to Mike Ashley' but nothing from him and there are four Glaziers who keep very quiet too. The Russian and the American at Arsenal don't give too many interviews either and that's just reeling off a few off the top of my head.

[aev]

The Spurs owner doesn't talk, the Bolton owner they owe all the debt to doesn't talk, you hear lots of stuff from 'sources close to Mike Ashley' but nothing from him and there are four Glaziers who keep very quiet too. The Russian and the American at Arsenal don't give too many interviews either and that's just reeling off a few off the top of my head.

OK, but as Rob and Dave say, someone should be talking. It doesnt bother me that he isn't chewing the fat on a regular basis, but it obviously does piss some people off, and I can understand why.

[Chico Hamilton III]

If we were doing okay no one would give a shit if Lerner didn't talk, it's because we are struggling that fans are demanding "answers".
He is what he is, he isn't going to talk to the press, be honest, you knew that pretty much from the start but no one was complaining when he was rebuilding the pub, getting Acorns on our shirt and people were talking about challenging for the CL in five years time!

That's true but when things seemed to be going well Randy was regularly seen at games and Krulak was a regular contributor on here -although he was usually spouting bullshit, he was at least a contact who gave the impression of caring about us.  When was the last time Lerner attended a game? Other than Carsen Yeung, how many football clubs are owned by people who never see them play? he'd be fucked if other Villa fans decided to demonstrate the same level of commitment to watching the team play 

[saunders_heroes]

The Spurs owner doesn't talk, the Bolton owner they owe all the debt to doesn't talk, you hear lots of stuff from 'sources close to Mike Ashley' but nothing from him and there are four Glaziers who keep very quiet too. The Russian and the American at Arsenal don't give too many interviews either and that's just reeling off a few off the top of my head.

OK, but as Rob and Dave say, someone should be talking. It doesnt bother me that he isn't chewing the fat on a regular basis, but it obviously does piss some people off, and I can understand why.

And all we get fed is bullshit "young and hungry" PR. Meanwhile the club's expectations are dragged down so low that fans are expected to be delighted with Premier League safety every season.

[Clampy]

Paul Faulkner did do an interview with Tom Ross a few weeks back. Whether Tom asked him the right questions is another matter.

[Dave Clark Five]

If we go down will anyone still rate Lerner or will they wait for yet another transfer window?
If Lerner does sell the club, will anyone still say he was great when he has gone?

Is anyone saying he is great?
He's done some good things which will undoubtedly stand the test of time, unfortunately he has messed up the most important part of his job as far as supporters are concerned - the playing side.

Maybe not 'great' anymore but continually defended. The football part is a disaster but he has done well with developing things off the field, even if our initial rage of being moved from our seats in the Trinity might have indicated otherwise.
My rants are more out of frustration that he doesn't show himself to be a leader. We end up trying to taunt him to come from cover.