Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 26, 2014, 11:03:23 PMOh goody. I see the Daily mail and the telegraph sports Journos are up Hodgsons arse for his article so it will make the papers and Lambert will be pelted with it in his presser.I am sure that will help Lambert and the team focus as they train for Sunday.Jesus.Good. It's about time Villa fans actually stood up and said a few choice things about how the way the club is being run.
Oh goody. I see the Daily mail and the telegraph sports Journos are up Hodgsons arse for his article so it will make the papers and Lambert will be pelted with it in his presser.I am sure that will help Lambert and the team focus as they train for Sunday.Jesus.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 26, 2014, 11:34:03 PMI don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with. That is a fair point. I suppose then that brings attention to the fact that Faulkner, despite his title, hasn't really assumed the role of the said figurehead. Although I don't have a major problem with him, he certainly doesn't carry much respect or authority amongst the fans it seems. Unfairly scapegoated by many in fact.
I don't entirely agree. You want someone's reassurance, not necessarily the owner. It goes back to a debate we had on here a few months ago - the club needs a figurehead (not a president or the mythical 'football man') who is respected by supporters and the general football public, who can offer such reassurance that things are either moving in the right direction or being dealt with.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:24:35 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 26, 2014, 11:03:23 PMOh goody. I see the Daily mail and the telegraph sports Journos are up Hodgsons arse for his article so it will make the papers and Lambert will be pelted with it in his presser.I am sure that will help Lambert and the team focus as they train for Sunday.Jesus.Good. It's about time Villa fans actually stood up and said a few choice things about how the way the club is being run.Yes, but unfortunately these choice things will carry little weight in the national press when they come from a man who pompously calls his rant a "report" when it is nothing but a list of his opinions, and when these opinions are clumsily stacked around his admission that he has had a personal falling out with the people he is criticising. That fact alone will undermine his whole argument in the eyes of the vast majority who have no idea what's happening to our club. Hodgson looks to me like another Fear, a man whose ego blinds him to the fact that being a self-important prat rarely helps.
I'm not sure he deserves all these personal attacks does he? I mean, he's been called a prat (x2), a twat, pompous, an ego maniac, and so on, some of which may well be true but surely the most important thing is whether what he says is valid?
Quote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 27, 2014, 12:00:13 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:24:35 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 26, 2014, 11:03:23 PMOh goody. I see the Daily mail and the telegraph sports Journos are up Hodgsons arse for his article so it will make the papers and Lambert will be pelted with it in his presser.I am sure that will help Lambert and the team focus as they train for Sunday.Jesus.Good. It's about time Villa fans actually stood up and said a few choice things about how the way the club is being run.Yes, but unfortunately these choice things will carry little weight in the national press when they come from a man who pompously calls his rant a "report" when it is nothing but a list of his opinions, and when these opinions are clumsily stacked around his admission that he has had a personal falling out with the people he is criticising. That fact alone will undermine his whole argument in the eyes of the vast majority who have no idea what's happening to our club. Hodgson looks to me like another Fear, a man whose ego blinds him to the fact that being a self-important prat rarely helps. I think they're completely different. I always got the impression Fear was after a job down the Villa and was Lerner's unofficial brown nose back in the day. Hodgson couldn't give a damn who he upsets by the look of it, and only wants Villa to do well. That's why he's spoken out. Fair play to him. It's about time the apathy was blown away at Villa Park.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 27, 2014, 12:08:01 AMQuote from: Chinchilla Bathhouse on February 27, 2014, 12:00:13 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on February 26, 2014, 11:24:35 PMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on February 26, 2014, 11:03:23 PMOh goody. I see the Daily mail and the telegraph sports Journos are up Hodgsons arse for his article so it will make the papers and Lambert will be pelted with it in his presser.I am sure that will help Lambert and the team focus as they train for Sunday.Jesus.Good. It's about time Villa fans actually stood up and said a few choice things about how the way the club is being run.Yes, but unfortunately these choice things will carry little weight in the national press when they come from a man who pompously calls his rant a "report" when it is nothing but a list of his opinions, and when these opinions are clumsily stacked around his admission that he has had a personal falling out with the people he is criticising. That fact alone will undermine his whole argument in the eyes of the vast majority who have no idea what's happening to our club. Hodgson looks to me like another Fear, a man whose ego blinds him to the fact that being a self-important prat rarely helps. I think they're completely different. I always got the impression Fear was after a job down the Villa and was Lerner's unofficial brown nose back in the day. Hodgson couldn't give a damn who he upsets by the look of it, and only wants Villa to do well. That's why he's spoken out. Fair play to him. It's about time the apathy was blown away at Villa Park. But ultimately, what weight can be attached to it? It's one man's opinion and no more credible than an H&V article or a host of blog rants.
But ultimately, what weight can be attached to it? It's one man's opinion and no more credible than an H&V article or a host of blog rants.
Do you really want the press to go with one man's personal grudge and pass it off as the weight of public opinion?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2014, 12:20:17 AMDo you really want the press to go with one man's personal grudge and pass it off as the weight of public opinion? Yes I do actually. I could care less about his ejection from the directors, but the reason they threw him out was because of his concerns of where the club is heading, which is 100% relevant. We've had 4 years of decline and it's about time we put a bit of pressure on the club.
You say that because you agree with him. Would you want equal weight to be given to an opinion that you don't agree with?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2014, 12:28:03 AMYou say that because you agree with him. Would you want equal weight to be given to an opinion that you don't agree with? Publish and be damned. The club puts out messages tailored to its own agenda, all clubs do; why then not the other side of the story?
Quote from: saunders_heroes on February 27, 2014, 12:26:57 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2014, 12:20:17 AMDo you really want the press to go with one man's personal grudge and pass it off as the weight of public opinion? Yes I do actually. I could care less about his ejection from the directors, but the reason they threw him out was because of his concerns of where the club is heading, which is 100% relevant. We've had 4 years of decline and it's about time we put a bit of pressure on the club. You say that because you agree with him. Would you want equal weight to be given to an opinion that you don't agree with?