If Wellbeck isn't good enough for ManYoo, why would he be good enough for Arsenal?
Quote from: Goldie.7 on August 22, 2014, 07:26:35 PMHe'll probably end up at Arsenal and do well there.Why Arsenal? It feels like people suggest them all the time as somewhere every striker in the world would do well at.
He'll probably end up at Arsenal and do well there.
Quote from: paul_e on August 22, 2014, 04:26:10 PMQuote from: RussellC on August 22, 2014, 03:17:25 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 22, 2014, 02:48:16 PMI see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box. Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.25 assists in 179 games, playing alongside 2 of the most prolific strikers in the league for most of that time.Gabby 52 assists in 329 games.Weimann 18 assists in 148 games.His record doesn't set him massively ahead of either. If he was £3-4m and £25k p/w then I'd be ok with it, the cost in fee and wages is massively out of line with what he'd bring.I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.
Quote from: RussellC on August 22, 2014, 03:17:25 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 22, 2014, 02:48:16 PMI see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box. Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.25 assists in 179 games, playing alongside 2 of the most prolific strikers in the league for most of that time.Gabby 52 assists in 329 games.Weimann 18 assists in 148 games.His record doesn't set him massively ahead of either. If he was £3-4m and £25k p/w then I'd be ok with it, the cost in fee and wages is massively out of line with what he'd bring.
Quote from: paul_e on August 22, 2014, 02:48:16 PMI see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box. Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.
I see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box. Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.
Quote from: RussellC on August 22, 2014, 07:11:56 PMI'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.Welbeck1 goal every 302mins1 assist every 447minsGabby1 goal every 340mins1 assist every 503minsWeimann1 goal every 204mins1 assist every 545minsGabby is a little behind the other 2 but there's nothing much between Weimann and Welbeck. Gabby's stats have gone backwards last season.
I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.
Wilson won't be steering his wheels to VP according to Mark Hughes. Relief. Now let's thump the Jawdies.
Quote from: Dave on August 22, 2014, 08:34:03 PMIf Wellbeck isn't good enough for ManYoo, why would he be good enough for Arsenal?Same reason as why Sturridge wasn't deemed good enough for Chelsea.
Wellbeing, completely over-rated, not coming to Villa.
Controversial but I think Cleverly would be a good signing for us. Whilst clearly not the saviour the media claimed, he would still complement delph and Carlos well IMO. The mirror reckon he is available on loan. Presumably quite cheap too as LVG wants to see him playing every week.