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Offline curiousorange

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6270 on: August 22, 2014, 04:56:37 PM »
Welbeck would probably score more than Gabby. But, he's not what we need.

A situation best described as 'Tallest Dwarf Syndrome'.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6271 on: August 22, 2014, 05:25:17 PM »
I think we should go for that Benteke bloke.
Brilliant a few seasons ago and loads of potential...wonder where he is now... 

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6272 on: August 22, 2014, 05:54:46 PM »
Then you remember Taibi, Veron, Carroll, and any amount of other garbage they have signed over the years.
Veron was an absolutly outstanding player.

For clarity - with them.

Offline Matt C

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6273 on: August 22, 2014, 06:49:19 PM »

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6274 on: August 22, 2014, 06:55:33 PM »
The Villa way is generally out of the blue deals, or we really find out about them very close to them closing. Sanchez was a bit different because of the third party stuff, but the others this summer were done quite efficiently.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6275 on: August 22, 2014, 07:11:56 PM »
I see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box.  Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.

I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.

I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.

25 assists in 179 games, playing alongside 2 of the most prolific strikers in the league for most of that time.

Gabby 52 assists in 329 games.
Weimann 18 assists in 148 games.

His record doesn't set him massively ahead of either. If he was £3-4m and £25k p/w then I'd be ok with it, the cost in fee and wages is massively out of line with what he'd bring.

I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.

That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.

Offline Goldie.7

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6276 on: August 22, 2014, 07:26:35 PM »
He'll probably end up at Arsenal and do well there.

Offline BoskoDjembaSalifou

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6277 on: August 22, 2014, 08:23:13 PM »
He'll probably end up at Arsenal and do well there.

Why Arsenal? It feels like people suggest them all the time as somewhere every striker in the world would do well at.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6278 on: August 22, 2014, 08:34:03 PM »
If Wellbeck isn't good enough for ManYoo, why would he be good enough for Arsenal?

Online paul_e

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6279 on: August 22, 2014, 08:56:59 PM »
I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.

That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.

Welbeck
1 goal every 302mins
1 assist every 447mins

Gabby
1 goal every 340mins
1 assist every 503mins

Weimann
1 goal every 204mins
1 assist every 545mins

Gabby is a little behind the other 2 but there's nothing much between Weimann and Welbeck.  Gabby's stats have gone backwards last season.

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6280 on: August 22, 2014, 09:16:43 PM »
I was not being harsh. I think he is slightly more use than Weimann, and a little less than an in form Gabby. Why on earth Arsenal would want him is beyond me, could not trap a bag of cement.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6281 on: August 22, 2014, 09:23:02 PM »
As has already been pointed out, he doesn't need one. Spanish passport.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6282 on: August 22, 2014, 09:23:49 PM »
Oophs, think I was replying to a post from about five pages ago. Ah well, bollocks to it.

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6283 on: August 22, 2014, 09:38:02 PM »
Welbeck is by all accounts very popular at Old Trafford. He is one of the few real Mancunians to come through their system into the first team, and everyone at the club is very fond of him. He is their version of Gabby. I suspect he will be a fish out of water anywhere else.

Offline gervilla

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6284 on: August 22, 2014, 10:04:13 PM »
Danny Wellbeck is a regular starter at international level.
If he was Irish I would find this statement believable.
He will struggle once he leaves Man Utd ala Luke Chadwick and Nicky Butt.
Hopefully he wont be struggling with us.

 


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