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Offline Goldie.7

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6285 on: August 22, 2014, 10:09:31 PM »
If Wellbeck isn't good enough for ManYoo, why would he be good enough for Arsenal?

Same reason as why Sturridge wasn't deemed good enough for Chelsea.

Offline Goldie.7

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« Reply #6286 on: August 22, 2014, 10:11:23 PM »
He'll probably end up at Arsenal and do well there.

Why Arsenal? It feels like people suggest them all the time as somewhere every striker in the world would do well at.

It was an opinion and i don't really hear of the every striker part, maybe it's just you.

Offline olaftab

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6287 on: August 22, 2014, 10:11:38 PM »
Good answer Goldie however I think he is very average.

Offline RussellC

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6288 on: August 22, 2014, 11:09:08 PM »
I see Welbeck as a modern version of Heskey, he'll always work hard and his teammates will appreciate it but he'll never score many, he just doesn't have that instinct around the box.  Not a bad player but not one I'd be looking to bring it to help out our creative/goal-scoring requirements.

I can see what you mean, but Welbeck’s got a much better touch and awareness than Heskey ever did, which makes him much more of asset in the formation that we rend to play, with 2 guys playing either side of a central striker. Granted, he's not prolific, but I think he'd weigh-in with his fair share of assists in that position.

I wouldn't be keen to spend £15m on him (nor, I’m sure, would Randy), but as a loan option I think he’d be a massive upgrade on Weimann or Agbonlahor.

25 assists in 179 games, playing alongside 2 of the most prolific strikers in the league for most of that time.

Gabby 52 assists in 329 games.
Weimann 18 assists in 148 games.

His record doesn't set him massively ahead of either. If he was £3-4m and £25k p/w then I'd be ok with it, the cost in fee and wages is massively out of line with what he'd bring.

I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.

That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.

I'd be interested to see games converted into minutes, as I doubt Welbeck has started (or completed) anywhere near as many games as those 2.

That said, I completely agree that he's highly unlikely to be cheap, or present a great amount of value for money.

Welbeck
1 goal every 302mins
1 assist every 447mins

Gabby
1 goal every 340mins
1 assist every 503mins

Weimann
1 goal every 204mins
1 assist every 545mins

Gabby is a little behind the other 2 but there's nothing much between Weimann and Welbeck.  Gabby's stats have gone backwards last season.

I must say, I'm surprised by Weimann's stats. That's a better than 1 in 3 ratio, when you look at it that way.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6289 on: August 23, 2014, 07:22:39 AM »
Wilson won't be steering his wheels to VP according to Mark Hughes. Relief. Now let's thump the Jawdies.

Offline jeowje

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6290 on: August 23, 2014, 07:41:08 AM »
Wilson won't be steering his wheels to VP according to Mark Hughes. Relief. Now let's thump the Jawdies.

Made me chuckle again!

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6291 on: August 23, 2014, 08:03:28 AM »
If Wellbeck isn't good enough for ManYoo, why would he be good enough for Arsenal?

Same reason as why Sturridge wasn't deemed good enough for Chelsea.
Sturridge was deemed not good enough so went to a team lower down the table.

If Wellbeck isn't good enough for a seventh place team I don't see why the fourth placed team is going to sign him, particularly when they've spent £35m on a player this summer who plays in a similar position.

Offline Steve67

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6292 on: August 23, 2014, 09:37:04 AM »
Wellbeing, completely over-rated, not coming to Villa. No links to our wonderful football club so why are we talking about him? Will sign for someone like Hull, Southampton or QPR. Woy plays him because he's a twat.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6293 on: August 23, 2014, 09:52:28 AM »
Wellbeing, completely over-rated, not coming to Villa.

I know it's been a tough few years mate, but chin up! You never know what's around the corner!

;-)

Offline Tom_Mc9?

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« Reply #6294 on: August 23, 2014, 10:09:31 AM »
I'd say Roy picks Wellbeck occasionally because of the dearth of English strikers. Who else is he going to pick apart from Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert and Wellbeck?

Agreed that we're not signing him though.

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« Reply #6295 on: August 23, 2014, 10:16:33 AM »
He's also got a perfectly decent scoring record for England.

This decade's Darius Vassell.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6296 on: August 23, 2014, 02:32:33 PM »
Controversial but I think Cleverly would be a good signing for us. Whilst clearly not the saviour the media claimed, he would still complement delph and Carlos well IMO.

The mirror reckon he is available on loan. Presumably quite cheap too as LVG wants to see him playing every week.

Offline Tom_Mc9?

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6297 on: August 23, 2014, 02:40:06 PM »
Well, United are paying for Nani to be playing at Sporting Lisbon, so I'd assume they'd extend that kindness to Villa.

Offline Rudy65

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6298 on: August 23, 2014, 02:41:36 PM »
Controversial but I think Cleverly would be a good signing for us. Whilst clearly not the saviour the media claimed, he would still complement delph and Carlos well IMO.

The mirror reckon he is available on loan. Presumably quite cheap too as LVG wants to see him playing every week.

Westwood is better.

We need some creativity not another plodder who passes side ways or back

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Re: Transfer Speculation / Gossip
« Reply #6299 on: August 23, 2014, 02:54:43 PM »
Cleverly isn't a bad player. For me a bit like Darren Gibson of Everton. He's done really well up there and is very popular. Neither are super exciting but they do a good and honest job when called upon. Is it what we need to unlock defences though? Never struck me as that type of player.

 


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