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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #615 on: December 24, 2016, 04:01:12 PM »
Like it's already been said (and by Bruce) he's been on a low wage compared to others and they wanted to give him more to bring him in line to what the others were getting. No, maybe we wont sell him for big money but that's ok. I'm fine with it and I was ok with the Bacuna deal. Westwood and Gabby were very lucky to get theirs though.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 04:04:59 PM by Clampy »

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #616 on: December 24, 2016, 04:09:23 PM »
It is not a financial master plan.  It is not wasting money.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #617 on: December 24, 2016, 04:30:51 PM »
I agree Dave.  It's all about not giving saleable players away.  Basic common sense.  Basic business.

And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?

What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year?

He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?

I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign him

Does it really matter? Sounds like a bit of a whinge for the sake of it.

Does it matter?

jesus wept

we give westwood who isnt a premier league player a 5 year deal to ensure he is under contract when all the bids come rolling in

A stupidly long deal for bacuna

the same for flabby

and now the same for gardner

this isnt some kind of financial master plan its stupidity

Even based on your own figures - a maximum of 3 million across the contract in wages, and a 2m transfer fee (which is probably on the low side), if we were to sell him at any point during the contract we would have lost very little if anything.

That is why it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #618 on: December 24, 2016, 08:54:42 PM »
In a midfield 3, Gardner would be fine. As a two with Jedinak it's too slow. Gardner still has a part to play. The length of the deal is a little excessive, but as others have said, it's unlikely he'll see it out and I think we'll sell him eventually.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #619 on: December 24, 2016, 09:17:47 PM »
Fair play to the lad. Why oh why do some get so dramatically wound up by it though?

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #620 on: December 24, 2016, 09:49:17 PM »
Beats me.

Good luck to him. Recovered from horrendous injuries, worked hard and the club have put their faith in him. I wish him well.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #621 on: December 24, 2016, 09:54:32 PM »
I suppose giving him a new contract prevents him leaving on a free transfer down the line because from what I've seen from him he's not up to standard. We could get a million or two for him in the future.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #622 on: December 24, 2016, 10:04:31 PM »
He was under contract for another two years so it's as I suggested, and thanks to the link provided by dekko, he was on a low wage. If him feeling more confident, happy, or however you want to word it, now that he has more parity with other players leads to him contributing to us being promoted then it's worth every penny. 

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #623 on: December 26, 2016, 07:32:55 PM »
You need to also factor in the cost/value of his replacement, whether buying or from within the squad ...or accept Westwood with very little as an alternative.

He's not been brilliant but he could be the difference of signing two 4m players this January or one 8m player.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 07:42:19 PM by Dante Lavelli »

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #624 on: December 26, 2016, 07:43:50 PM »
I was trying to work out who Jack had come on for at half time today. Hadn't even realised GG was playing!

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #625 on: December 26, 2016, 08:26:42 PM »
Thought he did ok today. Tidy enough

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #626 on: December 26, 2016, 09:44:37 PM »
Just a squad player at this level.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #627 on: December 26, 2016, 10:16:59 PM »
Just a squad player at this level.

I think both him and Westwood are only any use to us in the absence of Jedinak, they should never be in alongside as they offer zip going forward. Hopefully only a few days off rectifying the situation.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #628 on: December 26, 2016, 10:51:34 PM »
Bruce keeps dropping grealish into centre mid for the last part of games, i do wonder if he is trying to develop him into a more all round midfielder.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #629 on: December 27, 2016, 12:13:59 AM »
In a midfield 3, Gardner would be fine. As a two with Jedinak it's too slow. Gardner still has a part to play. The length of the deal is a little excessive, but as others have said, it's unlikely he'll see it out and I think we'll sell him eventually.

He's played in a midfield three quite a few times already this season and apart from a few flashes, has looked average at best.