Quote from: PeterWithesShin on December 23, 2016, 11:40:28 PMI wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.
Quote from: dekko on December 24, 2016, 09:11:32 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on December 23, 2016, 11:40:28 PMI wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-dealBut that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!
Quote from: achilles on December 24, 2016, 11:37:32 AMQuote from: dekko on December 24, 2016, 09:11:32 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on December 23, 2016, 11:40:28 PMI wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-dealBut that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!He shouldnt have a future as he is way out of his depth but a deal until 2020 suggests otherwise and having him even in matchday squad shows how low we have sunkEven if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambitionwhen we do go up apart from 3 or 4 players we need to replace the lot of themShort term and lazy
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on December 24, 2016, 11:55:01 AMQuote from: achilles on December 24, 2016, 11:37:32 AMQuote from: dekko on December 24, 2016, 09:11:32 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on December 23, 2016, 11:40:28 PMI wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-dealBut that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!He shouldnt have a future as he is way out of his depth but a deal until 2020 suggests otherwise and having him even in matchday squad shows how low we have sunkEven if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambitionwhen we do go up apart from 3 or 4 players we need to replace the lot of themShort term and lazy I'm still with jury at the moment, he's done it before in the Championship and I would hope he shows more now.Perhaps a nice little screamer into the top corner on Monday please Garry . UTV
The odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league level
Even if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambition
Quote from: Matt Collins on December 24, 2016, 12:38:30 PMThe odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league levelIf only he was as effective as your favourite Westwood. I see you managed to offer an argument for his inclusion in the side for Leeds.
Quote from: Tayls_7 on December 24, 2016, 02:10:00 PMQuote from: Matt Collins on December 24, 2016, 12:38:30 PMThe odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league levelIf only he was as effective as your favourite Westwood. I see you managed to offer an argument for his inclusion in the side for Leeds. I'd say neither of them are good enough for where I want us to be, even in the short term. Hopefully we might even do something about that this winter But given two games in four days I'd rotate between them in these matches
I agree Dave. It's all about not giving saleable players away. Basic common sense. Basic business.
Quote from: brian green on December 24, 2016, 02:31:14 PMI agree Dave. It's all about not giving saleable players away. Basic common sense. Basic business.And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year? He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign him
Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on December 24, 2016, 03:35:38 PMQuote from: brian green on December 24, 2016, 02:31:14 PMI agree Dave. It's all about not giving saleable players away. Basic common sense. Basic business.And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year? He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign himDoes it really matter? Sounds like a bit of a whinge for the sake of it.