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Offline achilles

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #600 on: December 24, 2016, 11:37:32 AM »
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.

Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal

But that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #601 on: December 24, 2016, 11:55:01 AM »
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.

Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal

But that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!

He shouldnt have a future as he is way out of his depth but a deal until 2020 suggests otherwise and having him even in matchday squad shows how low we have sunk

Even if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambition

when we do go up apart from 3 or 4 players we need to replace the lot of them

Short term and lazy

Offline frank black

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #602 on: December 24, 2016, 12:02:15 PM »
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.

Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal

But that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!

He shouldnt have a future as he is way out of his depth but a deal until 2020 suggests otherwise and having him even in matchday squad shows how low we have sunk

Even if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambition

when we do go up apart from 3 or 4 players we need to replace the lot of them

Short term and lazy

 I'm still with jury at the moment, he's done it before in the Championship and I would hope he shows more now.

Perhaps a nice little screamer into the top corner on Monday please Garry . UTV


Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #603 on: December 24, 2016, 12:16:06 PM »
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.

Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal

But that is exactly why he is one of the lowest earners... because he is bloody useless and has no future at AVFC!

He shouldnt have a future as he is way out of his depth but a deal until 2020 suggests otherwise and having him even in matchday squad shows how low we have sunk

Even if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambition

when we do go up apart from 3 or 4 players we need to replace the lot of them

Short term and lazy

 I'm still with jury at the moment, he's done it before in the Championship and I would hope he shows more now.

Perhaps a nice little screamer into the top corner on Monday please Garry . UTV

it depends what you term as doing it

If its been ok for one season and shite for another whilst playing for a team in the lower half of the league then yes he has done it

Moving forward the likes of pointy and gardner shouldnt have a future with us, if they do there is no way we are going to get up and if we arent up in two seasons the parachute money is 15 odd million its a 50 million drop from the prem

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #604 on: December 24, 2016, 12:38:30 PM »
The odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league level

Offline Tayls_7

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #605 on: December 24, 2016, 02:10:00 PM »
The odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league level

If only he was as effective as your favourite Westwood. I see you managed to offer an argument for his inclusion in the side for Leeds.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #606 on: December 24, 2016, 02:24:20 PM »
Even if it is too make sure we get a transfer fee from a lower half championship team or league one side it says a lot about our ambition

If that's the reason, doesn't it just say a lot about how we're finally employing common sense?

Offline brian green

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #607 on: December 24, 2016, 02:31:14 PM »
I agree Dave.  It's all about not giving saleable players away.  Basic common sense.  Basic business.

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #608 on: December 24, 2016, 02:38:25 PM »
I wonder if part of it is because he's earning sod all (by football standards). Having never been a regular first teamer none of his contracts will have been big and he probably had a relegation clause slice it in half so he could well have been pretty much the lowest earner in the squad.

Bruce was on the radio earlier and this was certainly one of the reasons:

https://audioboom.com/posts/5428141-aston-villa-boss-steve-bruce-on-game-v-luton-but-first-he-talks-about-gary-gardners-new-deal
When are we playing Luton?

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #609 on: December 24, 2016, 02:50:34 PM »
The odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league level

If only he was as effective as your favourite Westwood. I see you managed to offer an argument for his inclusion in the side for Leeds.

I'd say neither of them are good enough for where I want us to be, even in the short term. Hopefully we might even do something about that this winter

But given two games in four days I'd rotate between them in these matches



Offline Tayls_7

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #610 on: December 24, 2016, 03:23:03 PM »
The odd screamer doesn't make up for his bad passing. Even more so at premier league level

If only he was as effective as your favourite Westwood. I see you managed to offer an argument for his inclusion in the side for Leeds.

I'd say neither of them are good enough for where I want us to be, even in the short term. Hopefully we might even do something about that this winter

But given two games in four days I'd rotate between them in these matches

Every time I see Westwood's name on the teamsheet a little piece of me dies. Soon I'll vanish. At least with Gardner there is the remote possibility he will contribute positively to the cause.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #611 on: December 24, 2016, 03:35:38 PM »
I agree Dave.  It's all about not giving saleable players away.  Basic common sense.  Basic business.

And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?

What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year?

He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?

I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign him
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 03:41:16 PM by oswald funkletrumpet »

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #612 on: December 24, 2016, 03:50:43 PM »
I agree Dave.  It's all about not giving saleable players away.  Basic common sense.  Basic business.

And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?

What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year?

He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?

I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign him

Does it really matter? Sounds like a bit of a whinge for the sake of it.

Offline oswald funkletrumpet

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #613 on: December 24, 2016, 03:56:09 PM »
I agree Dave.  It's all about not giving saleable players away.  Basic common sense.  Basic business.

And just how much would we get for gardner? 2 million at a push?

What would he cost in wages? 20k a week? A million a year?

He had what a year left on a two year deal so why not a year? Why 3?

I look forward to teams banging on our door to sign him

Does it really matter? Sounds like a bit of a whinge for the sake of it.

Does it matter?

jesus wept

we give westwood who isnt a premier league player a 5 year deal to ensure he is under contract when all the bids come rolling in

A stupidly long deal for bacuna

the same for flabby

and now the same for gardner

this isnt some kind of financial master plan its stupidity

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Re: Gary Gardner
« Reply #614 on: December 24, 2016, 03:58:54 PM »
I doubt he is on 3k a week.  He would sell for 2 million minimum.  Wait and see what is paid for bang average players in January.