We need two very solid players this January that will not only boost the playing ability of the squad but boost the morale around the place and the fans. Let's say it was Young and Lescott, irrespective of what people's personal opinion on either might be they exactly the senior type players we'll be pissed off if they go to a club like an Everton or worse someone in or around us. I'm supporting Lambert's overall strategy but he needs to relax a little on it being the only strategy. Wages spent on proper motivated experienced talent which I believe both would be will comfortably separate us from the bottom 7 or 8 clubs and with a bit of luck push us even further up.
Quote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 03:59:19 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2013, 03:50:53 PMIt's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.Helenius, Tonev, Sylla, El Ahamadi, Bowery, Kozak, Luna add the square root of nothing. There's at least £16m quid there that could have been spent better on a smaller amount of players. If we play young donkeys we might aswell use our young free donkeys rather than £16m quids worth of other teams donkeys.Kozak has contributed at least four points this season. The useless fucking donkey.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2013, 03:50:53 PMIt's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.Helenius, Tonev, Sylla, El Ahamadi, Bowery, Kozak, Luna add the square root of nothing. There's at least £16m quid there that could have been spent better on a smaller amount of players. If we play young donkeys we might aswell use our young free donkeys rather than £16m quids worth of other teams donkeys.
It's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.
Its not wasted. We got the player the manager wanted, we just didn't get the other player the manager wanted to go with him.And while I don't think £7 million is a lot for a striker, much like Benteke, that fee is inflated.
Quote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 04:46:42 PMQuote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 03:59:19 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on December 16, 2013, 03:50:53 PMIt's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.Helenius, Tonev, Sylla, El Ahamadi, Bowery, Kozak, Luna add the square root of nothing. There's at least £16m quid there that could have been spent better on a smaller amount of players. If we play young donkeys we might aswell use our young free donkeys rather than £16m quids worth of other teams donkeys.Kozak has contributed at least four points this season. The useless fucking donkey. Well 9 points seeing as he scored in the wins against Norwich, Cardiff and Southampton.
Quote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 04:54:59 PMIts not wasted. We got the player the manager wanted, we just didn't get the other player the manager wanted to go with him.And while I don't think £7 million is a lot for a striker, much like Benteke, that fee is inflated. The players he has spent a decent wedge on look the business - benteke, Vlaar, Kozak, okore, all current internationals and decent signings - the problem is he has bought a lot of bargain basement £1m signings to supplement them with .If he spend £4m plus on a player it is generally a decent player he brings in .
It may be a case that while he can free up room in the transfer budget, the wage constraints mean he cannot go and spend £8 million on an attacking midfielder.There is little point to cutting back the budget to simply blow it again.The club needs to expand its cash flow and it seems that’s what they're looking to do now, but in the immediate future clearing dead cash off the books can only be a good thing.
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take.
What I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football
Quote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too?
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on December 16, 2013, 05:13:42 PMWhat I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football We're by and large hard to beat, unless you're one of the top six and even then its not always easy. I think he is afraid that we have another six weeks like we did from December through to January and the style is reflecting that. We know we can play a lot better, we have seen these players do it.
Quote from: aj2k77 on December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PMQuote from: Ads on December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PMThen he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.The less money you have, the longer things take. Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.