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Offline Concrete John

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #300 on: December 16, 2013, 04:56:07 PM »
We need two very solid players this January that will not only boost the playing ability of the squad but boost the morale around the place and the fans. Let's say it was Young and Lescott, irrespective of what people's personal opinion on either might be they exactly the senior type players we'll be pissed off if they go to a club like an Everton or worse someone in or around us. I'm supporting Lambert's overall strategy but he needs to relax a little on it being the only strategy. Wages spent on proper motivated experienced talent which I believe both would be will comfortably separate us from the bottom 7 or 8 clubs and with a bit of luck push us even further up.

I think we'll stay relatively clear of the relegation scrap this season anyway, but totally agree with bringing the likes of Young and/or Lescott in.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #301 on: December 16, 2013, 04:57:40 PM »
It's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.

Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.

Helenius, Tonev, Sylla, El Ahamadi, Bowery, Kozak, Luna add the square root of nothing. There's at least £16m quid there that could have been spent better on a smaller amount of players. If we play young donkeys we might aswell use our young free donkeys rather than £16m quids worth of other teams donkeys.





Kozak has contributed at least four points this season. The useless fucking donkey.

Well 9 points seeing as he scored in the wins against Norwich, Cardiff and Southampton.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #302 on: December 16, 2013, 04:58:11 PM »
Its not wasted. We got the player the manager wanted, we just didn't get the other player the manager wanted to go with him.

And while I don't think £7 million is a lot for a striker, much like Benteke, that fee is inflated.

The players he has spent a decent wedge on look the business - benteke, Vlaar, Kozak, okore, all current internationals and decent signings - the problem is he has bought a lot of bargain basement £1m signings to supplement them with .

If he spend £4m plus on a player it is generally a decent player he brings in .

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #303 on: December 16, 2013, 04:59:28 PM »
It's also on something like 15 or 16 players to rebuild a squad. If we'd just bought 5 or 6 players i'd be sat on the bench as a sub as we'd have no players.

Paul e has it right, we've rebuilt the squad numbers wise, now it is time to start buying first team players, not squad players.

Helenius, Tonev, Sylla, El Ahamadi, Bowery, Kozak, Luna add the square root of nothing. There's at least £16m quid there that could have been spent better on a smaller amount of players. If we play young donkeys we might aswell use our young free donkeys rather than £16m quids worth of other teams donkeys.





Kozak has contributed at least four points this season. The useless fucking donkey.

Well 9 points seeing as he scored in the wins against Norwich, Cardiff and Southampton.

And don't forget - don't write him off ;-)

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #304 on: December 16, 2013, 05:00:42 PM »
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.

Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.

The less money you have, the longer things take.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #305 on: December 16, 2013, 05:02:19 PM »
Its not wasted. We got the player the manager wanted, we just didn't get the other player the manager wanted to go with him.

And while I don't think £7 million is a lot for a striker, much like Benteke, that fee is inflated.

The players he has spent a decent wedge on look the business - benteke, Vlaar, Kozak, okore, all current internationals and decent signings - the problem is he has bought a lot of bargain basement £1m signings to supplement them with .

If he spend £4m plus on a player it is generally a decent player he brings in .

That's been my opinion for a while.

If he's happy with us numbers wise, then concentrating on those players in the £5-£10m bracket should see some good improvement to the side.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #306 on: December 16, 2013, 05:05:09 PM »
It may be a case that while he can free up room in the transfer budget, the wage constraints mean he cannot go and spend £8 million on an attacking midfielder.

There is little point to cutting back the budget to simply blow it again.

The club needs to expand its cash flow and it seems that’s what they're looking to do now, but in the immediate future clearing dead cash off the books can only be a good thing.

Offline eastie

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #307 on: December 16, 2013, 05:09:03 PM »
It may be a case that while he can free up room in the transfer budget, the wage constraints mean he cannot go and spend £8 million on an attacking midfielder.

There is little point to cutting back the budget to simply blow it again.

The club needs to expand its cash flow and it seems that’s what they're looking to do now, but in the immediate future clearing dead cash off the books can only be a good thing.


If he can spend £7m on a striker then I would imagine he can spend similar at least on a midfielder - wages have been cut back a lot and we have the new tv deal too - I'm hoping he knows who he wants and is waiting for that player to become available although maybe more likely in the summer than in January .

What I think he does need to do is utilise the loan market and bring in a couple in January .

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #308 on: December 16, 2013, 05:12:07 PM »
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.

Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.

The less money you have, the longer things take.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I find Westwood a load of tosh, he's great at  keeping the ball moving in areas that don't matter under no pressure. Lowton has a great delivery on him from deep but his positioning is poor and last season he was a target for the long diagonal ball over him.

Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too? Kozak bench warming is of little use to us whilst Sylla and Karim chase shadows.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #309 on: December 16, 2013, 05:13:42 PM »
What I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #310 on: December 16, 2013, 05:15:28 PM »
What I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football

We're by and large hard to beat, unless you're one of the top six and even then its not always easy. I think he is afraid that we have another six weeks like we did from December through to January and the style is reflecting that.

We know we can play a lot better, we have seen these players do it.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #311 on: December 16, 2013, 05:18:34 PM »
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.

Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.

The less money you have, the longer things take.

Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too?

I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.

Offline eastie

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #312 on: December 16, 2013, 05:19:32 PM »
What I don't understand is why clearing the dead wood and lowering the wage bill means that Lambert has to play such a soul-destroying style of football

We're by and large hard to beat, unless you're one of the top six and even then its not always easy. I think he is afraid that we have another six weeks like we did from December through to January and the style is reflecting that.

We know we can play a lot better, we have seen these players do it.

Wasnt that a Mcleish trait also  - making us hard to beat ?

He needs to be made aware by the powers that be that the quality of football at villa park needs to improve vastly .

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #313 on: December 16, 2013, 05:24:41 PM »
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.

Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.

The less money you have, the longer things take.

Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too?

I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.

A Plan B Midfielder would have been nice. If you can't get your target A midfield Dynamo to improve probably your weakest position I would have thought that signing a 6ft 7 centre forward isn't the best back up plan.

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Re: How would you feel....
« Reply #314 on: December 16, 2013, 05:24:48 PM »
Then he would be £17 million over budget on trasnfers and probably a lot more over budget in wages.

Westwood and Lowton are good players. The problem is the blend just isn't right at the moment, but it takes time. Delph is an £8 million player, but its taken him a couple of years to look like it.

The less money you have, the longer things take.

Do you not think if he could find an international centre forward for £7m that fits our wage policy he couldn't find a midfielder too?

I'm sure he could but maybe the midfielder he wanted was a lot more than £7m. He did enquire about the Japanese bloke and an enquiry is as far as it went which possibly suggests we were quoted silly money.

Kiyotake.

Nuremberg are having an abysmal season, I wonder if we'll try again for him.

 


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