Quote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:25:56 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on August 29, 2013, 11:16:32 PMQuote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:09:51 PMAs you run a successful website that is very wise , as you know like minded people flock to places where the majority of the time their opinions will be accepted and discussed in a grown up manner .but as you do not frequent the website , it may open your eyes , if anyone says anything to the contrary of their political beliefs , as said my politics are firmly down the middle , but this was a little too one sided for this group which is disturbing considering my background as a brummie with Irish catholic background . but still very happy to have the opportunity to live in England There are many things said on here, running pretty much the whole range of mainstream politics. They are irrelevant in the football sections or on matchday. Whatever might be said on a Brigada website is equally irrelevant to their behaviour at the match, so where do you get this idea that they are a political group from?Dave .if you read their members only board when they first appeared it was very clear , anyone of a neutral political persuasion is rounded on like rabid dogs . not in my name or the name of the Club I love , as I said I am old enough to have been through this before.my concern it may end in conflict and therefore have a negative impact on the club . Nobody seems overly bothered about it except you. Then again, nobody seems to find anything of any political nature in their behaviour except you.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on August 29, 2013, 11:16:32 PMQuote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:09:51 PMAs you run a successful website that is very wise , as you know like minded people flock to places where the majority of the time their opinions will be accepted and discussed in a grown up manner .but as you do not frequent the website , it may open your eyes , if anyone says anything to the contrary of their political beliefs , as said my politics are firmly down the middle , but this was a little too one sided for this group which is disturbing considering my background as a brummie with Irish catholic background . but still very happy to have the opportunity to live in England There are many things said on here, running pretty much the whole range of mainstream politics. They are irrelevant in the football sections or on matchday. Whatever might be said on a Brigada website is equally irrelevant to their behaviour at the match, so where do you get this idea that they are a political group from?Dave .if you read their members only board when they first appeared it was very clear , anyone of a neutral political persuasion is rounded on like rabid dogs . not in my name or the name of the Club I love , as I said I am old enough to have been through this before.my concern it may end in conflict and therefore have a negative impact on the club .
Quote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:09:51 PMAs you run a successful website that is very wise , as you know like minded people flock to places where the majority of the time their opinions will be accepted and discussed in a grown up manner .but as you do not frequent the website , it may open your eyes , if anyone says anything to the contrary of their political beliefs , as said my politics are firmly down the middle , but this was a little too one sided for this group which is disturbing considering my background as a brummie with Irish catholic background . but still very happy to have the opportunity to live in England There are many things said on here, running pretty much the whole range of mainstream politics. They are irrelevant in the football sections or on matchday. Whatever might be said on a Brigada website is equally irrelevant to their behaviour at the match, so where do you get this idea that they are a political group from?
As you run a successful website that is very wise , as you know like minded people flock to places where the majority of the time their opinions will be accepted and discussed in a grown up manner .but as you do not frequent the website , it may open your eyes , if anyone says anything to the contrary of their political beliefs , as said my politics are firmly down the middle , but this was a little too one sided for this group which is disturbing considering my background as a brummie with Irish catholic background . but still very happy to have the opportunity to live in England
Davethat is unfair and incorrect their was substantial concerns made about this group made some of them put forward their views too forcefully and rightly banned .I try to put my thoughts forward in a respectful manner , but as you know our support is many and diverse , this site represents a cross section of support , other websites do also , there are obvious conflicts of opinions as some of the inter site banter .if I am a lone voice on here , so be it . but as a supporter for over 45 years , I can tell you honestly that this group concerns lots of long term Villa fans as much as the other stuff in the 70s If you feel my point of view is not welcome , frankly that is your choice mate
How can you keep things separate? We are, most of us at least, rounded individuals with interests in a wide range subjects that often overlap. We're not Worzel Gummidge (sp) saying "today I'm wearing my football head." Would you also say that the "Kick it Out" campaign, for example, should be stopped?
Quote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:17:51 PMWhy can you not accept politics and football should be kept separate , hooliganism was tribalism . is politics not the same under a different banner . Because anti-racism and anti-fascism are not about poltics. They're about right and wrong.As for the rest of your post, you've not bothered addressing any of the questions i put to you, beyond going on about Celtic and politics, which is largely irrelevant here.And maybe the people who were talking about a Petrov benefit match weren't thinking about politics at all, they were thinking about charity?I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in sectarian politics, zero. I don't care. I don't even like to see them discussed here, because it always ends up in a gigantic row which is exactly the same as the last row we had about them.I am, however, able to see the difference between right and wrong when it comes to fascism and racism, and the "i just want to keep ALL politics out of football" is absolutely irrelevant when it comes to that.These Brigada kids are about standing up, singing a lot and waving banners. It's not the sort of thing I'd be into at my age, but then again, how many 40 something men would be. You seem to have an agenda against them based on them feeling some sort of kinship with Celtic, which you've then spun out to mean that, actually, they're a bunch of British troop hating fenians (and yes, I've seen the banners at some Celtic matches, and I find them abhorrent, too).Once again, it seems your main objection is to people whose politics might not tally with your own rather than some altruistic desire to keep politics out of football.
Why can you not accept politics and football should be kept separate , hooliganism was tribalism . is politics not the same under a different banner .
Can you give us some actual evidence of what you are talking about?
Quote from: Chris Smith on August 29, 2013, 11:30:26 PMHow can you keep things separate? We are, most of us at least, rounded individuals with interests in a wide range subjects that often overlap. We're not Worzel Gummidge (sp) saying "today I'm wearing my football head." Would you also say that the "Kick it Out" campaign, for example, should be stopped? Why is that , I support that absolutely but that is about Football ANTIFA agenda spreads a lot deeper than racism do you not think . so because you support the one agenda does not mean you support the rest .as stated G8 and other riots , the support of ANTIFA members against our serving troops for one , and I can name many more .
Quote from: Sunny Villa on August 29, 2013, 11:43:15 PMDavethat is unfair and incorrect their was substantial concerns made about this group made some of them put forward their views too forcefully and rightly banned .I try to put my thoughts forward in a respectful manner , but as you know our support is many and diverse , this site represents a cross section of support , other websites do also , there are obvious conflicts of opinions as some of the inter site banter .if I am a lone voice on here , so be it . but as a supporter for over 45 years , I can tell you honestly that this group concerns lots of long term Villa fans as much as the other stuff in the 70s If you feel my point of view is not welcome , frankly that is your choice mate It's strange, but of all the people I talk to on matchday and elsewhere, and of all the correspondence I receive, nobody has ever mentioned the political standpoint of Brigada 1874. And yet this behaviour apparently raises concern amongst 'lots' of supporters.
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