Wiggo was shite on the road before 2009 when he kept up with dopers. Tell me how. He didn't just start focussing on the road then either btw hadn't cracked a grand tour top 120 (so not even mid peleton). He had some results in TT's as you'd expect, he is and was a world class time trialist, he had a pedigree in it but never once not a single time did he show an ability to climb. Suspicious.
On bilharzia read up about the treatment needed, symptoms and side effects and then read a few articles with Chris' take on it. Doesn't make sense.
Quote from: aj2k77 on August 07, 2013, 08:24:57 PMOn bilharzia read up about the treatment needed, symptoms and side effects and then read a few articles with Chris' take on it. Doesn't make sense.I've read up on it and I don't see anything to suggest Froome is making it up (and the blood results showing the presence of the parasite have been made available to the press). There's also plenty of reports that the infection was found during medical tests after he joined sky but there was no way of knowing how long he had been infected for. If you do some research you'll find that people often live with it for years without it being diagnosed or treated. The descriptions of treatment are perfectly acceptable as well. Additionally what benefit does making up that specific infection give him? The drug used to treat it isn't on the WADA list and won't mask the taking of anything else on there, the side effects aren't similar to anything you'd experience on the more likely illegal drugs and are actually quite harmful to the body. It doesn't make sense to make this up.Seeing as you're the one questioning it can you provide anything specific in the accounts of anyone involved to back up your claims.As for the results I posted, what they show is that he had some ability, and if you look at stage splits for grand tours he'd entered previously there are a few days where his performance was much higher than expected for his position, something Dave Brailsford has commented on previously, saying when they took him on the first task he set was for them to determine why he couldn't deliver those performances consistently, the medical staff involved put it down to the Bilharzia, which is perfectly reasonable.Final point, you keep saying they could just release the data, they released everything since he joined them, the data before that isn't really in their hands. Even if they have been provided with data from his previous team (which is surely the case as I'd guess that's fairly standard practice) as they didn't gather it what value does it give for them to release it?
Thing is if you are a young rider and you turn up for a stage race not eying to win but to support your team leader or go for stage wins your overall position could be very low. In fact some riders will ease up on a mountain stage to fall well behind overall so on subsequent days, if they attack, they can be allowed to stay away. Or ease up to conserve energy for a big push later.Comparing positions in such races year on year is not like for like.
That's because he was principally a track cyclist where you don't tend to see many mountains!Track and road cycling are vastly different in the way the athletes need to train.
Horner wins the Vuelta at the grand old age of 41, what do you make of that?
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