Carlos Cuellar

[Ad@m]

I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?

Because Carlos played for the Villa with the same passion any of us would.

In a world where too many of these overpaid primadonnas look like they couldn't give a rat's ass as long as they can drive home in their Ferrari (see CNZ for a perfect example) it's just nice to see that some players actually put the effort in for their money.

I'd rather see Carlos in a Villa shirt than Collins - regardless of how you assess their relative abilities.

[old man villa fan]

I've never thought he was much cop if I'm honest, that said he seemed a model professional and always played with full commitment.

I would tend to agree with that.  When we bought him we were pushing for Champions League and he was never at that level as a central defender.

Played as a fullback in the same situation, he lacked pace and ball playing ability.

As we have slipped down the league his performances have started to stand out as good compared with the others and I think lower half of the PL is probably his standard.  Therefore, for where we want to be he is not up to the required standard for a 1st team regular and an expensive reserve.

I cannot fault his professionalism and didn't seem to rock the boat.

I wish him well in the rest of his career.

[saunders_heroes]

I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?

Because Carlos played for the Villa with the same passion any of us would.

In a world where too many of these overpaid primadonnas look like they couldn't give a rat's ass as long as they can drive home in their Ferrari (see CNZ for a perfect example) it's just nice to see that some players actually put the effort in for their money.

I'd rather see Carlos in a Villa shirt than Collins - regardless of how you assess their relative abilities.

I'm no fan of Collins either, but I'd still rather him in the team over Cueller. I don't see what's so 'passionate' about Cueller either. How is passion in a footballer measured?
I think he's popular because he comes across a decent bloke on his twitter account. That's fair enough, but that doesn't mean he's a top player because his patchy performances prove otherwise.

[cdbearsfan]

Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).

Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.

Good luck Carlos.

With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.

Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.

Both of them have been good for us occasionally. They're far too inconsistent though and their off-field activities (especially Collins) have disgraced the club. They're the sort of players we should be shipping out, not Carlos.

That said I acknowledge that Carlos was not McGrath, Beckenbauer and Baresi rolled into one. If we can find a better replacement then I'll be happy but I'm not sure we will.... especially as we seem to be skint.

[dave.woodhall]

Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).

Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.

Good luck Carlos.

With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.

Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.

No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.

[cdbearsfan]

A succession of rubbish managers.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

Of he's on a massive wage, then so be it. Clark will be a centre-back next season.

Whilst not the greatest, Carlos never gave less than his all, which is more than can be said for a few in that squad.

Good luck for the future Carlos.

[Ad@m]

Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).

Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.

Good luck Carlos.

With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.

Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.

No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.

But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season.  Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

A succession of rubbish managers.

You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.

[TonyD]

If we want to start playing decent football then the hoofers need to go. 

[saunders_heroes]

Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).

Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.

Good luck Carlos.

With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.

Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.

No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.

But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season.  Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.

I doubt if Dunne and Collins would ever join a Scottish club unless it was at the tail end of their careers. I think just about says it all about Scottish football.

[cdbearsfan]

A succession of rubbish managers.

You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.

He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.

[saunders_heroes]

A succession of rubbish managers.

You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.

He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.

Yeah and he wasted a small fortune on Carlos Cueller as well. A player he and every manager after rarely played.

[Ad@m]

Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).

Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.

Good luck Carlos.

With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.

Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.

No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.

But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season.  Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.

I doubt if Dunne and Collins would ever join a Scottish club unless it was at the tail end of their careers. I think just about says it all about Scottish football.

Eh?!

What exactly does it say about Scottish football that he made the UEFA Cup final?  It's more than we've been able to manage in many, many attempts.

[saunders_heroes]

So what? Boro and Fulham have reached the dizzy heights of a uefa cup final in recent years and they had some equally average players in their squads as well.