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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: hawkeye on March 10, 2012, 09:37:09 PM
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The most consistant defender we have and one we might lose. I think our defensive record with him in the team proves that
1. We should keep him
2. He should keep his place based on form
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I just wish he would stop having the knack of being on the end of some our better chances. I'd fancy Shay to put over a decent cross or take a half chance more than I do Carlos. Ace defender though.
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Something tells me that he'll be here next season. It's beginning to dawn on the club that he is the most competent CB. Richard Dunne's injury may have come as a blessing in disguise.
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He completely deserves to be starting for a Premier League club, and if we continue to hold out on renewing his contract, I wouldn't blame him for jumping ships to a club like Sunderland, Everton, Fulham etc.
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If Dunne goes straight into the side when he's fit then there's something seriously wrong, I still don't know why Carlos was dropped last season after a collosal performance at Wolves.
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Far, far better than the fat pie eater, and much less of a disruptive influence.
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Should be signed up asap. Easily the pick of the bunch out of dunne and collins and he's also a good influence to have round for the youngsters in the way he conducts himself. Letting him go now would be the height of folly considering how much a replacement would cost or worse still we went into next season with just Dunne, Collins and the kids. anywy from what i've read on here Mcleish knows he's our best defender so i'm hopeful we'll keep him if the club can get their arse into gear for once.
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We really need the club to sort out a new contract for him because we don't want to lose him he's a top defender.
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I have beeen pissed off with the treatment of Carlos, I dont think he has had a bad game at Centre back and yet has been dropped as soon as Collins or Dunne are fit.
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I basically posted this on the Fulham post match thread. Cuellar needs to be signed up now he is our best centre back.
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He is a good centre half IMO, totally agree with the comment re should never have been dropped after the Wolves game when Houllier compared him to Carragher, was nonsense. Plus he actually seems to love playing for the club, which is such a great bonus
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Too right we should keep him.
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Far, far better than the fat pie eater, and much less of a disruptive influence.
Spot on.
And imagine how bad Dunne or Collins would be if they had to play as a full back!
Important we keep Carlos, he's the best defender we have at the club, certainly in terms of reading the game.
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You can see the improvement in Villa's defence since he's had a run at CB.
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yep. its becoming increasingly apparent where the "problem" was. Only took us 18 months and 3 managers to pinpoint it.
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I'd love to see him and Clark get the chance to form a partnership. Collins has been ok the last few games but I think that's where our future lies.
Happy to say goodbye to Dunne in the summer, we should have got rid last year.
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What Castor said. Dunne and collins have been automatic choices for too long, and Clark is in danger of becoming the next Cahill.
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Isn't Dunne out of contract? Has to beg got rid of, thought Collins did ok as did Hutton
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Whether we sign him on a new contract will surely depend on the wage demands? It is rumoured Cuellar is on £40k per week? This really is O'Neill's legacy - decent, (but not World beating) players, on huge salaries who wont be moved on for less, will see out the end of their contracts and will hold out for the same sort of money in any contract renewal?
Having said all that he has made a significant difference on his return to the team this season
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What Castor said. Dunne and collins have been automatic choices for too long, and Clark is in danger of becoming the next Cahill.
I dont think he is. He's been getting a game when fit... admittedly not as CB though this season.
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I think that the rest of the back 4 man up more without Dunne. They see him as some kind of leadership demi-god which he is not. Carlos is much calmer and organises the whole thing well. Got to get him signed up, and then IMO let Dunne go in the summer, and possibly Collins and buy a partner for the king.
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When the truth comes out about some of the things that Dunne was involved in at the time of the Cowans incident, it will be clear he must go. This includes racial abuse of Fabian Delph.
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When the truth comes out about some of the things that Dunne was involved in at the time of the Cowans incident, it will be clear he must go. This includes racial abuse of Fabian Delph.
What???? Are you for real?
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I miss his runs from right back,they cheer up a dull performance.
Top bloke as well.
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Collins, Dunne and Warnock all have one year left on their deals so hopefully we can get rid of two of them in the summer.
Wouldn't have a problem with Collins staying as a squad player, it's the automatic starter bit I've always had a problem with.
Amazes me the last 3 managers have preferred Dunne and Collins as the comination although the penny is hopefully finally dropping. Be interesting to see what happens when Dunne is fit though.
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I've been one to question why he's been overlooked by loads of managers but we do look more solid with him and Collins. I'd like to see them now against a decent team.
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I think Carlos will be offered a new deal on less money than his current deal, or at best the same. It'll be up to him whether to agree to that or get a similar deal with a nice signing-on fee at another club. He comes across as a classy fella, I wouldn't blame him if being messed about a bit at Villa meant he decides to go elsewhere.
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I think the fans have been wanting Carlos to get a run in the middle for some time, something he has never really had. He finally gets a run in the middle of defence and he is proving why he should have had that chance earlier.
It's strange that all three of Mon, GH and McLeish decided that Dunne was the better option. Is it wrong that I am thankful that Dunne got injured?
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The treatment of Carlos has mystified me for ages, god knows why he`s stayed, he would walk into a lot of sides and should be a regular in ours, if he left, he would absolutely, positively, totally have my best wishes.
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I think the fans have been wanting Carlos to get a run in the middle for some time, something he has never really had. He finally gets a run in the middle of defence and he is proving why he should have had that chance earlier.
It's strange that all three of Mon, GH and McLeish decided that Dunne was the better option. Is it wrong that I am thankful that Dunne got injured?
Nope. Carlos is quality. Not just his defending, he has good vision e.g. the pass that put N'zog at Blackburn. It was obvious that full-back was never his position. Sign him up.
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No coincidence to me that we look far more confident with Carlos in the central position. Even Warnock ( who seems to respond to praise) looks better, as does Collins and so does the thug who is now venturing forward with confidence.
Good Spine player and possible Captain. FGS keep him.
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He is the best defender at the club, amazing no one has given him a run at centre back. Hope he stays, but wont blame him if he goes as has been treated awfully by the club, yet doesnt have a bad word to say about it.
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Just read on BBC gossip column that Valencia are interested in Cuellar.
Why don’t we stop messing about and just get him signed up to a new deal. We've look much better at the back recently with Carlos at CB.
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Hope he doesn't go anywhere.
But best of luck to him if he does.
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We do need to keep him, but we also need more quality at centre back. He is good, but he isn't the answer. Clark maybe.
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I'd quite like to see Clark and Cuellar together.
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Just read on BBC gossip column that Valencia are interested in Cuellar.
Why don’t we stop messing about and just get him signed up to a new deal. We've look much better at the back recently with Carlos at CB.
I'm sure we would be able to keep him, if we simply paid him what he wants, which isn't our motus operandi right now!
I don't think Clark and Cuellar would make a good pairing. However, either playing as the cover behind a more physical CB would be fine. That's Collins at the moment, who I'd keep as cover, with a new starting CB coming in to be Carlos' regular partner. Clark should get enough game time between CB and DCM.
Dunne to go.
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Can't blame him if he wants to end his career in his own country,but we need him more than the other defenders we've got,and we haven't got the money to replace them,which is a worry.
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needs to improve his passing but a great defender
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He's off in the Summer I'm afraid.
Agreed he is the best defender at the club.
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needs to improve his passing but a great defender
spot on ..if he cut that out he would be a top top player
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Just read on BBC gossip column that Valencia are interested in Cuellar.
Why don’t we stop messing about and just get him signed up to a new deal. We've look much better at the back recently with Carlos at CB.
Our board are good at making the wrong decisions - don't worry, he'll be off soon and I don't blame him. Nice one Randy - another one off the wage bill!
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He's the best of a bad lot possibly, but he's isn't a great defender.
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And he will be replaced with......
Well McL is saying he wants to add strength in order to give us greater strength in depth.
According to reports he has looked at both Giant Haystacks and Bid Daddy, the Aston Villa manager was quoted saying "Well both will add great strength and depth, they wont be very mobile but should be able to block really well!"
Asked which he prefered McL said "Well both have there merits, but I think that Big Daddy would be a crowd pleaser, so I am going for Giant Haystacks"
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He's the best of a bad lot possibly, but he's isn't a great defender.
Agreed. He certainly isn't Great. Like McGrath was, and Laursen and probably even Southgate to an extent.
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If he was going to sign/get offered a new contract it will have been sorted by now. He's off.
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I agree. His agent will have been busy since the beginning of the season, and he'll almost certainly have a couple of offers in the, er, offing from overseas clubs, who've been able to make an approach since January.
I do think, if a reasonable La Liga club has come in for him, Cuellar will be off.
Shame, because out of the three senior central defenders at the club - Dunne, Collins and himself - Cuellar is the one I'd prefer to retain for next season.
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The only way we'll keep him is if he takes a pay cut presumably and at this stage in his career, out of contract he's in a prime position to command a better deal elsewhere. No doubt his agent will be encouraging him to do just that too.
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Shame as I think he will he home to Spain for one last big contract.
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Shame as I think he will he home to Spain for one last big contract.
Can't blame him and I hope some idiots won't take it out on him. There were people on this forum who never had a good word for him especially when he had to play at right back but he always did his best. He has had a raw deal at Villa Park and it will be no surprise if he moves on, although disappointing because he is genuinely a watchable player with character, more than you can say for most of his teammates!
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Not a great defender but a good one and an emergency right back too. He may well look at how the club is now and decide to get out and that would be a pity.
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Whether you call him a poor/average/decent defender I think he is the best defender we have by some distance. Mostly played out of position if selected during his spell with us. I will gutted if he goes but we have wasted his talent and couldn't blame him for moving on.
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Model professional. Never slags the club off. Never seen in the press moaning about being played out of position. Does what is asked of him time again. I wish there were more footballers of his morale standards at the club. If he leaves I wish him all the best.
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Valencia will probably be playing champions league football again next season.
No brainer for me if they really want him, Carlos will be off.
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Valencia will probably be playing champions league football again next season.
No brainer for me if they really want him, Carlos will be off.
Haven't they had huge money troubles after building their new stadium? Whilst I can appreciate the appeal from a footballing side, the money they offer might be pretty insulting.
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Top player, gets an Alan Hutton barnet cut, makes heap big fuck up, theres a connection somewhere..
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If we were to go down I'd love to see him as club captain, leading us to battle through the the depths of the second division. Though unfortunately like the rest of us I think he'll be off regardless of where we finish.
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As a club we do have an amazing ability to take very good players and make them average. When we signed Carlos he'd just been in the UEFA Cup final and was Rangers' best player.
Then we play him at right back and he drifts in and out of our team. If we'd played him at centre-half on a regular basis I think he could've been another Mellberg.
I agree that he's likely to be off this summer and its a shame. But I'll wish him all the best and give him a proper welcome if he ever comes back.
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Have always thought he was a solid squad player who will pop up with the odd goal. With everyone fit I don't think he should start, but with all our injuries and lack of strength in depth, I think he is worth holding onto.
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I -hope- to see him line up for Valencia next season He's finished here. He's been treated like shit by the club, let's be honest.
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He is making a few nervy mistakes right now but then who isn't
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I'd be quite happy to see every player above 25 going next season apart from Given to be honest. Carlos has been a star for us, but if this season has shown us anything its that we need to clear the decks and start again.
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Would prefer to see him at right back rather than jabba the Hutton
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Shite clearence for the Odemwingie chance but redeemed himself by clearing off the line in the second half.
He needs to be right back against Spurs as he's usually solid there. Lichaj can play LB as I don't think pacey wide players cause him that much trouble and he played well against Bale last season. Dunne and Collins I'm sure can cope with Adebayor.
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I like Carlos and he needs to be in the team at present. Has always had the knack of pulling off goal line clearances.
But he is a bit over-rated by many fans. There's a reason that 3 successive managers haven't picked him at centre back. He must be the most clumsy spaniard playing football at a high level!
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There's a reason that 3 successive managers haven't picked him at centre back.
One of those managers saw fit to spend £8m on him and the other two saw us to within three matches of relegation.
It's quite possible that three successive managers can be THAT calamitous. There's certainly a lot of other evidence to back it up.
Either way, best of luck to him at Valencia next season.
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Would like to see him, Collins, Clark and a possible new signing battle it out for the centre-half places next season, but I too think he will get a better offer somewhere else and will be off. Shame, as his ability to cover at RB makes him a very useful squad member.
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I think we can all agree he's better than Hutton.
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I like the bloke, but he's not cut out for playing centre back week in week out, too many mistakes.
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Carlos has just tweeted that he can't watch the game tonight because he's at the end of season dinner. Seems a bit weird as it's not the end of season and we're not even safe
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Carlos has just tweeted that he can't watch the game tonight because he's at the end of season dinner. Seems a bit weird as it's not the end of season and we're not even safe
He's tweeted again with a photo and they're watching the game, I assume, on skygo, on phones.
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Darren Bent has just tweeted
Good banter at the AVFC Player of the year event
That's nice for them
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Blues had their end of season party the week before the season finished last year. Maybe its a McLeish thing.
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It was the awards dinner, not end of season dinner.
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It was the awards dinner, not end of season dinner.
http://t.co/y7PIx44O
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He's a decent stopper, but no more than that. His first touch and distribution are poor and, like Dunne, he makes too many mistakes. He's a fans favourite, because he gives his all when he plays and doesn't cause trouble off the field. Wouldn't be difficult to replace. Likeability 10/10. Playing ability 6/10.
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He's a decent stopper, but no more than that. His first touch and distribution are poor and, like Dunne, he makes too many mistakes. He's a fans favourite, because he gives his all when he plays and doesn't cause trouble off the field. Wouldn't be difficult to replace. Likeability 10/10. Playing ability 6/10.
Pretty much what I feel about him.
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One of those players that seems to get better the less he plays.
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I don't want to start the same old arguments again, but after the money spent on Carlos, Davies, Knight, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Shorey and Young, you'd think that we'd have at least the semblance of a decent defence.
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I don't want to start the same old arguments again, but after the money spent on Carlos, Davies, Knight, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Shorey and Young, you'd think that we'd have at least the semblance of a decent defence.
Absolutely. None of them were exactly bargain basement buys by Mr. O'Neill and exactly the kind of purchases that lie at the heart of the problems we face on and off the field today.
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If hes on about 30k per week, then i would rather release him , amongst others, to go for players like this Douglas.
Baker looks a real find to me, and we need to give him more games.Hes quick, good on the turn, and good in the air, and what i like about him in partic is he always tries to pass the ball to a Villa player rather than hoof it out.He also plays quite well with Collins.
We need to play Clark in his position, which is central defence, and have a look at him, or move him on.Not quick enough to play in central midfield, but, again, tries to play the ball out.The kind of defender good teams need.
So for me , i would have 4 C/Hs for next season, Baker, Clark, Collins + 1 other.If you get desperate, you could play Herd there as well.So that means Dunne and Carlos gone.........sorry.
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Pretty sure the stats will show that whenever he's played this season we've shipped less goals than when he hasn't.
As has been the case in the previous seasons.
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I think Carlos is on around £40k/week?
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@Cuellar24 Very happy because, after my last match at Villa Park, the team will stay one more year where it has to be. Thank you all for your support both in the good and the bad moments through all these years!
Goodbye King Carlos, you will be sorrowly missed.
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Nice bloke, average player. Although if Valencia do well in the Champions League, I expect he'll be remembered in these parts like Paul McGrath.
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See ya,I will miss the arms pumping down the right side.Its been
Fun.
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I don't want to start the same old arguments again, but after the money spent on Carlos, Davies, Knight, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Shorey and Young, you'd think that we'd have at least the semblance of a decent defence.
We're amazing in that in two consecutive years, only a short while ago, we bought two entire defences, and look at the state of what we have now.
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As posted in the pre-match thread, it was clear from his reaction after the game that he was saying ta-ra.
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Sad day. I like Carlos.
As a club we do not look after our assets very wisely do we.
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Carlos Cuellar Villa's centre-half :)
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Carlos Cuellar Villa's centre-half :)
Apart from the times that successive managers consistently played him out of position at full back.
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Carlos Cuellar@Cuellar24
Thank u very much for these fantastic 4 years has been an honor to be part of one of the biggest club, I will miss u forever in my heart..
Carlos Cuellar@Cuellar24
.. Is one of the saddest days thank u to support me everyday I wish u all the best
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Good luck Carlos, I'll miss him.
Best defender at the club.
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I'm sorry to see him go. He's never really got a good run on his proper position here and never whinged when he was dropped. Wherever he ends up are getting a decent free transfer and a good squad player.
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Good luck carlos- one on o neills better signings and always gave 100%.
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I don't think we ever saw the best of him. Can't ever question his commitment or attitude. Best of luck for the future Carlos.
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I'm sorry he's going. I know his passing is often poor but he is a good stopper and gives his all. I suppose it allows Clark and Baker to come through if they're good enough but I'd rather keep Carlos.
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Just will mean more Alan Hutton next season with one less RB option in the squad. :(
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He is a decent defender who always did his best. He was never a £7.8m footballer, but you can't blame him for the transfer fee.
Good luck, Carlos.
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With Baker and Clark there one of Dunne, Collins or Cuellar was going, With Cuellar being out of contract he was easier to get rid of.
Any player on high wages will most likely go if a younger player can play in that position, Weimann for Heskey
The saved wages can then be used on positions we need players in. It is a sad state of affairs but whoever the manager does not change the fact wages need to come down
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I'd at least offer him a new contract, even if it's on vastly reduced terms. Carlos won't be getting £60k a week off anybody else ever again.
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Average defender who seemed far too happy to be getting splinters in his arse than pushing for a starting place. We won't miss him to much.
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It'll be more likely bye Carlos. Hello Roger Johnson.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Goodbye Carlos.
The only un-Spanish Spanish footballer in the world.
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Strike me as a lovely fella, but with a lot of limitations as a player. Never worth the money we paid and yet still one of the few current players that I would do what I did today, stay to applaud him off the pitch one last time.
Good luck Carlos.
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"Carlos Cuellar, Villa centre half!"
Except he hardly played there and when he did, did a pretty good job. I'd pick him over Dunne and Collins every time.
A bit prone to giving away the odd silly penalty (eg Bolton), but so are the others (eg R Dunne v Spurs!).
I reckon Carlos alonside Clark could have been good.
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"Carlos Cuellar, Villa centre half!"
Except he hardly played there and when he did, did a pretty good job. I'd pick him over Dunne and Collins every time.
A bit prone to giving away the odd silly penalty (eg Bolton), but so are the others (eg R Dunne v Spurs!).
I reckon Carlos alonside Clark could have been good.
And good luck Carlos.
Back home to Spain?
Don't blame you mate!
Good weather and cheap booze!
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Honest player who did a decent job in the middle. Abiding memory of him is when we won at OT. I was in the Stretford End (don't ask!) and this Irish fella behind me kept insulting him calling him Greek! That was only 2 and half years ago, Look where we are now!
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I'd also like to add that i'll miss seeing a Villa player run like a girl.
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Our best player my a street mile!!! I am drunk. Good night to you all
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As posted in the pre-match thread, it was clear from his reaction after the game that he was saying ta-ra.
Very impressed that you were able to predict before the game what he was going to do after it was over. ;)
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As posted in the pre-match thread, it was clear from his reaction after the game that he was saying ta-ra.
Very impressed that you were able to predict before the game what he was going to do after it was over. ;)
haha i'm a tit, thats my only excuse.
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Thanks Carlos for your year's service
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Thanks Carlos for your year's service
I know I'm getting on a bit, but I'm sure he's been here longer than that hasn't he?
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Gracias Carlos, mis mejores deseos para el futuro.
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I will miss him. Should have been more regular than he was. Some great memories of him, thanks Carlos and best wishes.
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Not unexpected but a big shame. Just shows where the club is heading when a model pro and an excellant defender is less valued than various disruptive pissheads.
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Not unexpected but a big shame. Just shows where the club is heading when a model pro and an excellant defender is less valued than various disruptive pissheads.
This.
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I will miss him. Should have been more regular than he was. Some great memories of him, thanks Carlos and best wishes.
Agreed. Under-used by a clueless 'Manager' (I use the trem VERY loosely)
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Not unexpected but a big shame. Just shows where the club is heading when a model pro and an excellant defender is less valued than various disruptive pissheads.
Never thought I's agree with Greg Nash!!!!
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Average defender who seemed far too happy to be getting splinters in his arse than pushing for a starting place. We won't miss him to much.
What should he have done? Gone on Twitter to whinge about being out of the team? Refuse to play unless he got to play at centre-half? Get ratted and kick the doors in at a night-club or two?
Or do exactly as he did, get on with his job, play when and where asked and generally be humble and professional, while being one of the best defenders at the club over the last few years.
As for not missing him, there's a reason why we've looked very solid defensively over the last half dozen games. And the fact that they are exactly the games that Cuellar has played is not a coincidence.
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Thanks for your service to Villa Carlos, good luck in the future.
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Yup, I'm in agreement. Cuellar has looked adventurous when played as a right back, despite not being one!!
He also looked solid and combative at the back with blocks and all.
I'll miss him for sure.
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I've never thought he was much cop if I'm honest, that said he seemed a model professional and always played with full commitment.
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I've never thought he was much cop if I'm honest, that said he seemed a model professional and always played with full commitment.
of the experience centre halves to leave he was the least I wanted to go
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Always liked him, and as many others have said, he was always nothing but a consummate professional who gave is all. You can't ask for much more than that.
Thank you, Carlos.
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He improved the less frequently he played! When he played, he was ok. When he didn't, he was lamented due to our poor first choice centre halves. He came with a great reputation but didn't fulfil that promise. He's a good squad player, but his salary would be better allocated on a superior player.
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Carlos was never given a proper chance at the Villa for me. Not played enough and often when picked it was out of position. The thing I don't get is it wasn't just under one manager. Totally bamboozled by it all and can only wish him all the best. He got a decent wage out of the club but on a footballing front some good years have been lost/wasted at Villa. A model proffessional for me who got on and done what was asked of him and never complained when pissed about. A far better centre half than he was given credit for, a step above Collins/Dunne and possibly up there with Melberg/Laursen but we will never know.
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I liked Carlos. He was good on the whole when he played. Best defender we've had this season, but that's more an indication of how bad we've been.
Good luck to him though. Top pro, top bloke.
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Five managers can't all be wrong. He was, if you like, the anti-Heskey.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
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A nice guy but easily replaced. Maybe he could have played sooner when others lost form but that's about it.
An average dependable player who makes a few mistakes more than 'd like and I wish him all the best.
But we need somebody better.
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I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
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I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
God loves a trier.
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I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
Because Carlos played for the Villa with the same passion any of us would.
In a world where too many of these overpaid primadonnas look like they couldn't give a rat's ass as long as they can drive home in their Ferrari (see CNZ for a perfect example) it's just nice to see that some players actually put the effort in for their money.
I'd rather see Carlos in a Villa shirt than Collins - regardless of how you assess their relative abilities.
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I've never thought he was much cop if I'm honest, that said he seemed a model professional and always played with full commitment.
I would tend to agree with that. When we bought him we were pushing for Champions League and he was never at that level as a central defender.
Played as a fullback in the same situation, he lacked pace and ball playing ability.
As we have slipped down the league his performances have started to stand out as good compared with the others and I think lower half of the PL is probably his standard. Therefore, for where we want to be he is not up to the required standard for a 1st team regular and an expensive reserve.
I cannot fault his professionalism and didn't seem to rock the boat.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
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I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
Because Carlos played for the Villa with the same passion any of us would.
In a world where too many of these overpaid primadonnas look like they couldn't give a rat's ass as long as they can drive home in their Ferrari (see CNZ for a perfect example) it's just nice to see that some players actually put the effort in for their money.
I'd rather see Carlos in a Villa shirt than Collins - regardless of how you assess their relative abilities.
I'm no fan of Collins either, but I'd still rather him in the team over Cueller. I don't see what's so 'passionate' about Cueller either. How is passion in a footballer measured?
I think he's popular because he comes across a decent bloke on his twitter account. That's fair enough, but that doesn't mean he's a top player because his patchy performances prove otherwise.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.
Both of them have been good for us occasionally. They're far too inconsistent though and their off-field activities (especially Collins) have disgraced the club. They're the sort of players we should be shipping out, not Carlos.
That said I acknowledge that Carlos was not McGrath, Beckenbauer and Baresi rolled into one. If we can find a better replacement then I'll be happy but I'm not sure we will.... especially as we seem to be skint.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.
No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
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Of he's on a massive wage, then so be it. Clark will be a centre-back next season.
Whilst not the greatest, Carlos never gave less than his all, which is more than can be said for a few in that squad.
Good luck for the future Carlos.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.
No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.
But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season. Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
??? You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.
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If we want to start playing decent football then the hoofers need to go.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.
No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.
But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season. Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.
I doubt if Dunne and Collins would ever join a Scottish club unless it was at the tail end of their careers. I think just about says it all about Scottish football.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
??? You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.
He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
??? You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.
He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.
Yeah and he wasted a small fortune on Carlos Cueller as well. A player he and every manager after rarely played.
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Only three full-time managers. Two of them useless, one a mad egomaniac that showed blind loyalty to some players, while discarding others for no apparent reason (see also Cahill, Luke Young).
Yes, they were all wrong. Cuellar has been our best defender for the last few years when he's had a chance. Unfortunately that has happened far too rarely.
Good luck Carlos.
With the greatest of respect to someone who can always be relied upon to buy any old tat I try to sell him, you can't just blithely say "They were all wrong." When a series of managers, both full-time and caretaker, ignore a player there must be a reason. As others have said, he seems to get better with every game he doesn't play.
Is he better than Dunne? Yes. Is he better than Collins? Yes. He should be in the team.
No, I don't think he is and more importantly, neither do a succession of managers.
But equally as valid, Carlos has a UEFA Cup runners up medal and in that same season was voted the Scottish PFA Player of the Season. Dunne and Collins can't boast anything coming close to that.
I doubt if Dunne and Collins would ever join a Scottish club unless it was at the tail end of their careers. I think just about says it all about Scottish football.
Eh?!
What exactly does it say about Scottish football that he made the UEFA Cup final? It's more than we've been able to manage in many, many attempts.
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So what? Boro and Fulham have reached the dizzy heights of a uefa cup final in recent years and they had some equally average players in their squads as well.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
??? You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.
He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.
Yeah and he wasted a small fortune on Carlos Cueller as well. A player he and every manager after rarely played.
You could justify Carlos not being included when Dunne (in the Premier League Team of the Year) and Collins played well together in the last year of O'Neill's reign. There is no justification whatsoever for those two ne'er-do-wells being picked ahead of him this year or last. There is also no reason why Davies/Knight should have been picked ahead of him (or That Chelsea Defender).
If you were to ask every Villa fan which of our centre-halves most they would most like to see leave, I reckon Carlos would get about 2% of the vote, max.
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So what? Boro and Fulham have reached the dizzy heights of a uefa cup final in recent years and they had some equally average players in their squads as well.
Yes, but their stand-out players in that run to those finals were pretty damn good. And Cuellar more or less dragged Rangers there on his own.
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So what? Boro and Fulham have reached the dizzy heights of a uefa cup final in recent years and they had some equally average players in their squads as well.
But none of their defenders won their respective league's player of the season award. I'd say the two together show he's not the average player some people are making out.
He's not looked great for us largely because he's been played intermittently and out of position. The most important thing for a centre-half is to get a consistent run in the side as part of a consistent back four. He's never had that with us so it's a bit harsh to criticise him for it.
My point is that to have achieved what he did in one season at Rangers there must be a good player in there somewhere.
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My point is that to have achieved what he did in one season at Rangers there must be a good player in there somewhere.
Replace the word 'player' with 'manager'.
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A succession of rubbish managers.
??? You mean AM and GH, so two - hardly a succession. You can say many things about MON, but a rubbish manager is not one of them.
He was pretty rubbish when it came to defenders though. He sold Cahill for a pittance. He purchased an entire defence then had to go out and buy a new one the season after. He took Curtis Davies from being one of the most promising defenders in the country to one that signed for Small Heath. He played loads of players (including Carlos) out of position at right-back rather than pick Luke Young there. He hardly ever picked Carlos Cuellar at centre-half. He decided to pay Habib Beye £40,000 a week.
Yeah and he wasted a small fortune on Carlos Cueller as well. A player he and every manager after rarely played.
You could justify Carlos not being included when Dunne (in the Premier League Team of the Year) and Collins played well together in the last year of O'Neill's reign. There is no justification whatsoever for those two ne'er-do-wells being picked ahead of him this year or last. There is also no reason why Davies/Knight should have been picked ahead of him (or That Chelsea Defender).
If you were to ask every Villa fan which of our centre-halves most they would most like to see leave, I reckon Carlos would get about 2% of the vote, max.
Really? Most Villa fans I know are sick to death of Cueller's dodgy distribution and can't wait to see the back of him, me included. By the way I want Dunne and Collins out as well but I'd take them over Cueller every time. I just don't understand the adulation he gets.
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Really? Most Villa fans I know are sick to death of Cueller's dodgy distribution and can't wait to see the back of him, me included. By the way I want Dunne and Collins out as well but I'd take them over Cueller every time. I just don't understand the adulation he gets.
Every time a club has unpopular or unsuccessful management a player who's not getting a game is seen as having fallen out with them or else a symbol of why they're no good, and is therefore a fan hero. See also JPA and Lee Hendrie.
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He is a funny one Cuellar. But has done well over the last few games and helped us scramble to safety and goes with my best wishes, but of the 3 I would keep Dunne and put Clark in there with him.
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Lee Hendrie was a fan hero? I only remember him being regarded as a massive waste of talent and fighting with Villa fans at Tammurf (or was it Walsall?).
We've had two unpopular and unsuccessful managers in a row. Part of the reason for their lack of success and popularity has been because they've picked a pair of piss-heads ahead of Cuellar.
Still, he's gone now. I'll be content if we bring in some decent replacements. I worry we end up with those two clowns Dunne and Collins still here. Not only are they, a best, inconsistent. They are also terrible role models to our team full of younger players.
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Lee Hendrie was a fan hero? I only remember him being regarded as a massive waste of talent and fighting with Villa fans at Tammurf (or was it Walsall?).
We've had two unpopular and unsuccessful managers in a row. Part of the reason for their lack of success and popularity has been because they've picked a pair of piss-heads ahead of Cuellar.
Still, he's gone now. I'll be content if we bring in some decent replacements. I worry we end up with those two clowns Dunne and Collins still here. Not only are they, a best, inconsistent. They are also terrible role models to our team full of younger players.
They can't be kept together, surely? Their record as a pair from set pieces over the last 2 seasons should see one at least being got shut.
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins. Bring in another centre-half (preferably a Muslim or a tee-totaller) and then pick one or the other alongside Ciaran Clark.
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Lee Hendrie was a fan hero? I only remember him being regarded as a massive waste of talent and fighting with Villa fans at Tammurf (or was it Walsall?).
We've had two unpopular and unsuccessful managers in a row. Part of the reason for their lack of success and popularity has been because they've picked a pair of piss-heads ahead of Cuellar.
Still, he's gone now. I'll be content if we bring in some decent replacements. I worry we end up with those two clowns Dunne and Collins still here. Not only are they, a best, inconsistent. They are also terrible role models to our team full of younger players.
Circa 1998 supporters were saying Hendrie should play more often than he did - well before the Tamworth and Walsall nonsense and when he was seen as a player of massive potential. I can't recall not picking Cuellar as high up on the reasons to criticise Houllier or McLeish.
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I thought Mellberg was a decent centre half but then watched him play a season or so at right back. His distribution was equally as bad as Cuellar which I feel is down to being played out of position. Still scratching my head after remembereing watching Cuellar at left back also????????????
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I don't understand the adulation Cueller gets. Clearly a nice bloke, but on the pitch he can be clumsy, especially his distribution. I can't say we'll miss him. Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
God loves a trier.
We could do with a few of them.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
No, he went to the richest club in the world who were bound to get CL sooner or later (and they did).
You're splitting hairs really.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
No, he went to the richest club in the world who were bound to get CL sooner or later (and they did).
You're splitting hairs really.
Don't get me wrong i did'nt begruge him going, he'd been here long enough. I think he should have gone about it better that's all. After all we gave him his chance. Anyway, that's in the past i suppose.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
No, he went to the richest club in the world who were bound to get CL sooner or later (and they did).
You're splitting hairs really.
Don't get me wrong i did'nt begruge him going, he'd been here long enough. I think he should have gone about it better that's all. After all we gave him his chance. Anyway, that's in the past i suppose.
You see I think he was as honest as he could possibly be, yet he's vilified for it.
Anyway this is off topic I suppose.
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Remember that transfer request he put in, thereby forgoing his cut of the fee? No, me neither.
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Bye Bye Carlos, what a waste of a good player.
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins.
I'd rather keep Collins and get rid of Dunne. No matter how well Dunne plays, he's only ever 30 seconds away from dropping a bollock of hitherto unseen proportions.
The number of penalties he gives away, the number of own goals (more than any other PL player, ever), the number of red cards (again, more than any other PL player), he's either the world's unluckiest player or just a dopey bastard.
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Remember that transfer request he put in, thereby forgoing his cut of the fee? No, me neither.
He actually did put in a request, but the club chose not to publicize it.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
Take a quick look at the league table - say what you like about him, but criticizing his choice of City or LOL-erpool is ridiculous.
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins.
I'd rather keep Collins and get rid of Dunne. No matter how well Dunne plays, he's only ever 30 seconds away from dropping a bollock of hitherto unseen proportions.
The number of penalties he gives away, the number of own goals (more than any other PL player, ever), the number of red cards (again, more than any other PL player), he's either the world's unluckiest player or just a dopey bastard.
I'd get rid of Collins and Dunne as well. They're both past it and they've both set a bad example to the younger players for a number of reasons.
Sadly, with Carlos going, we'll keep hold of these plodders.
I'd like to see us bringing in a whole new back line (along with our new manager of course). Warnock, Dunne, Collins and Hutton are all shite. Take them all to the glue factory.
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Why do players like Cueller leave with a pat on his back from the fans while genuine fine players like Barry get vilified?
At least he was honest.
In Barry's case, running to the NOTW to explain that he was desperate to leave Villa did'nt help his cause.
Well he said he'd only leave Villa to join a team who were playing Champions League Football and he did'nt do that.
Take a quick look at the league table - say what you like about him, but criticizing his choice of City or LOL-erpool is ridiculous.
My problem with Barry was the season he tried to orchestrate his move to Liverpool in the press. Secondly he did stay for one more year, but for me, he coasted a bit and his performances were poor in comparison to the previous season.
In actuality, when he joined City, he pissed off Liverpool and their fans, which is quite alright by me.
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re Carlos;I've never seen a Spaniard with such poor ball control/passing.
no wonder they sent him to Scotland and never picked him to represent them.
Goodbye King Carlos-don't shoot any elephants
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins.
I'd rather keep Collins and get rid of Dunne. No matter how well Dunne plays, he's only ever 30 seconds away from dropping a bollock of hitherto unseen proportions.
The number of penalties he gives away, the number of own goals (more than any other PL player, ever), the number of red cards (again, more than any other PL player), he's either the world's unluckiest player or just a dopey bastard.
I used to agree and think we should get rid of Dunne and keep Collins. However, while Dunne has had no mishap off-the-field since last season, Collins has. I think players are entitled to make a mistake but to get caught out acting like a prick twice is not good enough.
That said, I could live with us getting rid of both of them.
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins.
I'd rather keep Collins and get rid of Dunne. No matter how well Dunne plays, he's only ever 30 seconds away from dropping a bollock of hitherto unseen proportions.
The number of penalties he gives away, the number of own goals (more than any other PL player, ever), the number of red cards (again, more than any other PL player), he's either the world's unluckiest player or just a dopey bastard.
I'd get rid of Collins and Dunne as well. They're both past it and they've both set a bad example to the younger players for a number of reasons.
Sadly, with Carlos going, we'll keep hold of these plodders.
I'd like to see us bringing in a whole new back line (along with our new manager of course). Warnock, Dunne, Collins and Hutton are all shite. Take them all to the glue factory.
It would be nice to replace the whole squad with better players, but that's simply not going to happen in one summer - what we need is a manager that can get the best out of what we have now
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Well, we'll see how fantastic Cuellar is when he signs for his next club won't we? Reckon it'll be a bigger club than Villa? Or more likely somewhere like Hibs or Union Berlin.
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Well, we'll see how fantastic Cuellar is when he signs for his next club won't we? Reckon it'll be a bigger club than Villa? Or more likely somewhere like Hibs or Union Berlin.
You're going to look pretty stupid if it's Valencia as has been rumoured.
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Well, we'll see how fantastic Cuellar is when he signs for his next club won't we? Reckon it'll be a bigger club than Villa? Or more likely somewhere like Hibs or Union Berlin.
It looks like he'll be joining Champions League regulars Valencia.
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Well, we'll see how fantastic Cuellar is when he signs for his next club won't we? Reckon it'll be a bigger club than Villa? Or more likely somewhere like Hibs or Union Berlin.
This looks like one of those "comes back and bites you in the arse" posts, Dave.
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I bet Cuellar will end up at a bigger team than the latest "gets better the less he plays" player, ie Makoun.
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I bet Cuellar will end up at a bigger team than the latest "gets better the less he plays" player, ie Makoun.
I agree.
With a new manager Makoun will probably end up at Villa.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
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Well, we'll see how fantastic Cuellar is when he signs for his next club won't we? Reckon it'll be a bigger club than Villa? Or more likely somewhere like Hibs or Union Berlin.
You're going to look pretty stupid if it's Valencia as has been rumoured.
Oh!
Well we'll see how often he starts for them then.
Look, I like the bloke but in all his time here I haven't seen the fantastic defender that some people on this thread are making him out to be.
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I wouldn't go as far as "fantastic". I would go with "better than Dunne, Collins, Knight or Davies" though.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Rubbish, Cuellar is the best centre back at the club, end of.
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(Assuming Cuellar goes) I'd keep Dunne and get rid of Collins.
I'd rather keep Collins and get rid of Dunne. No matter how well Dunne plays, he's only ever 30 seconds away from dropping a bollock of hitherto unseen proportions.
The number of penalties he gives away, the number of own goals (more than any other PL player, ever), the number of red cards (again, more than any other PL player), he's either the world's unluckiest player or just a dopey bastard.
I used to agree and think we should get rid of Dunne and keep Collins. However, while Dunne has had no mishap off-the-field since last season, Collins has. I think players are entitled to make a mistake but to get caught out acting like a prick twice is not good enough.
That said, I could live with us getting rid of both of them.
Probably the best form of Dunne's career was alongside Distin at Citeh. If we could get a pacy centre half to do the legwork alongside him, then maybe he's got enough in the tank for another year. Providing he doesn't come back of his hols like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man again.
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sorry to see him leave, however I must say I can't wait to see who the better, cheaper replacement is.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Rubbish, Cuellar is the best centre back at the club, end of.
No, actually he was spot on and ending a post with "end of" should be punishable by the banhammer.
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Best centre half at the club, but can't pass! Always looked like he enjoyed being here, gave 100%, never in any trouble. Hopefully we will replace him with someone of a similar temperament.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Rubbish, Cuellar is the best centre back at the club, end of.
Not a left back or a right back although has put a shift in when asked but indeed the best centre back at the club.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Rubbish, Cuellar is the best centre back at the club, end of.
No, actually he was spot on and ending a post with "end of" should be punishable by the banhammer.
Fact.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Pretty much bang on for me!
As for a replacement, I think it should be Clark alongisde a new CB. One of Collins or Dunne can then stay to be cover with Baker.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Pretty much bang on for me!
As for a replacement, I think it should be Clark alongisde a new CB. One of Collins or Dunne can then stay to be cover with Baker.
I'd love the next manager to be the sort of coach that could see the value of Clark in central defence. A ball playing centre half playing the ball out from the back isn't something we've had in quite a while.
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I think with Carlos the truth as ever is in the middle. People like him as he is a trier and comes across as a nice guy. He isn't a brilliant player but Dunne and Collins have been absolute garbage the past two seasons and that is why he gets better for not playing. Because, the two players ahead of him are largely not very good and lack the positive attributes of his character.
I wish him well in the rest of his career.
Pretty much bang on for me!
As for a replacement, I think it should be Clark alongisde a new CB. One of Collins or Dunne can then stay to be cover with Baker.
I'd love the next manager to be the sort of coach that could see the value of Clark in central defence. A ball playing centre half playing the ball out from the back isn't something we've had in quite a while.
Makes sense to me, in fact there may be a job going soon and you may have the credentials required.