Stephen Warnock - loaned to Bolton Wanderers (reply #231)

[Nastylee]

I'm not sure people questioning his commitment on the pitch are on the button. I'd say that in a game he gives his best but there's no doubt he's having a rough spell and is low on confidence. Booing him will only compound matters and he's going to be our LB until May given Clark is not a LB and Stevens is currently out of his depth at this level. As for the og, Dunne's positioning (jumping under the ball) was terribly distracting and meant the ball pretty much hit Warnock before he could adjust to the flight of the ball. Not forgiving Warnock as it wasn't clever but Dunne certainly played a major role in the disaster. Shame as I think we'd have won if had stayed 1-0.

[Clampy]

Needs to be dropped. Looks in bits to my mind. Wouldn't stick a yoof player in though because its the whole back line and i don't think its fair to have a kid cope with that.

Who do you suggest Greg? I only ask because someone suggested Delph on another thread and you was'nt keen.

Don't forget that Greg, in his infinite wisdom wants Delph in at centre-half.

Oh dear god.

[SoccerHQ]

The thing is, I really don't think he gives a f*** about the team or the club.  He's a less evident Hodge like character whose ability has deserted him many years ago.  It was recognized by MON and Houllier fairly quickly in their tenure. Why has AM persisted when there are more options, not far better options but better options.

MON didn't recognize it, he played every game when fit. Infact he was rushed back from injury for the Carling cup final where the decline in his form really started.

[Ian.]

Warnock does need to be dropped. For who, god knows. Its a similar story as last season when Dunney was causing havoc and upsetting many people. We really have not got a lot of options in our defence have we.

[Legion]

Especially now that Beye has left by mutual consent.

[Somniloquism]

Although pissed off with the OG, at least he reacted like it was a bad thing to happen. When Dunne gave the ball away against Bristol Rovers in the other round and they scored, he just shrugged his shoulders. Last night he just turned away as if the ball had gone for a goal kick. If a player cannot be pissed off at himself or even others when mistakes occur what does that show?

But going back to the actual OG, it was such a fundamental error not to be ready in case the Dunne missed it. His shape was all wrong for a ball coming a long way. But it isn't close to being his first error that lower leagues wouldn't even do. I think it was swansea when he knew Dyer was right behind him and he turned inside on his weaker foot which meant he was in less control and also meant any mistake would give Dyer the free run at goal rather then down the bylines.

[Greg N'Ash]

Needs to be dropped. Looks in bits to my mind. Wouldn't stick a yoof player in though because its the whole back line and i don't think its fair to have a kid cope with that.

Who do you suggest Greg? I only ask because someone suggested Delph on another thread and you was'nt keen.

Don't forget that Greg, in his infinite wisdom wants Delph in at centre-half.

Oh dear god.

What the hell, i suggested it because we have no options and otherwise delpth is another 6m down the drain. Anyway as an ex- long term MONette i thought you'd be all for playing someone totally out of position

[ozzjim]

Delph did ok at left back last season in the brief games he had there. Baker would surely be a better option though if he is back from Millwall?

[Exeter 77]

Baker was on the bench last night.

[ozzjim]

Must be in with a shout of a start then.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Talent is nothing without hunger, workrate, desire and confidence. If Stephen got Ian Taylor's heart and desire he would be loved by us.

What he lacks is the confidence. It's well reported that he's the hardest trainer at Bodymoor Heath and I do wonder if his biggest fault is he's trying too hard. As Ad@m said above, apart from the o.g. he didn't do too much wrong.

[Brend'Watkins]

Talent is nothing without hunger, workrate, desire and confidence. If Stephen got Ian Taylor's heart and desire he would be loved by us.

What he lacks is the confidence. It's well reported that he's the hardest trainer at Bodymoor Heath and I do wonder if his biggest fault is he's trying too hard. As Ad@m said above, apart from the o.g. he didn't do too much wrong.

You're forgetting the ridiculous attempt at a cross field pass that went straight to the opposition and consequently led to their opening goal.

So, other than being responsible for the two goals he was in fine form.  But to his credit, at least this week he didn't try to make out that his deficiencies were due to some bogus injury.   

[rutski]

Needs to be dropped. Looks in bits to my mind. Wouldn't stick a yoof player in though because its the whole back line and i don't think its fair to have a kid cope with that.

Who do you suggest Greg? I only ask because someone suggested Delph on another thread and you was'nt keen.

Don't forget that Greg, in his infinite wisdom wants Delph in at centre-half.

Oh dear god.

What the hell, i suggested it because we have no options and otherwise delpth is another 6m down the drain. Anyway as an ex- long term MONette i thought you'd be all for playing someone totally out of position

gonna stick up for greg on this one, i thought in the games where he came on as sub last year at left back, Delph did very well! whether it is another long term option i dont know?

[rutski]

Talent is nothing without hunger, workrate, desire and confidence. If Stephen got Ian Taylor's heart and desire he would be loved by us.

What he lacks is the confidence. It's well reported that he's the hardest trainer at Bodymoor Heath and I do wonder if his biggest fault is he's trying too hard. As Ad@m said above, apart from the o.g. he didn't do too much wrong.

You're forgetting the ridiculous attempt at a cross field pass that went straight to the opposition and consequently led to their opening goal.

So, other than being responsible for the two goals he was in fine form.  But to his credit, at least this week he didn't try to make out that his deficiencies were due to some bogus injury.   

there was alot of play after that, think it is unfair to take play back too far. The ball into swp's feet that was blocked luckly squirmed to cisse and it was a good hard first time finish. i cannot attribute too much blame at warnock for that!

[N'ZMAV]

I'd rather Baker play left back, he's more of a rounder hole for the round peg than Delph.