How do we change the 'cultural' make up of football crowds?

[VillaBobby]

I'd just like to point out that in 06/07 Pubey was in charge, not Mr Fickle. So much for correct date.

I copied and pasted from another site, but I think the attendance figures are correct and highlight the rise in attendance in an improving side plateauing and then the decline in line with league position and performance.

Have any of you considering taking these ideas to Faulkner to see if he will invest in support?

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd just like to point out that in 06/07 Pubey was in charge, not Mr Fickle. So much for correct date.

I copied and pasted from another site, but I think the attendance figures are correct and highlight the rise in attendance in an improving side plateauing and then the decline in line with league position and performance.

Have any of you considering taking these ideas to Faulkner to see if he will invest in support?

So your claim that you are backing up what you say with data should actually read "i'm using data from another site but didn't bother to double check it"? 

[Risso]

Halal food should be avoided in the ground at all costs, as it should be in the country as a whole.  There should be no place for this disgusting, cruel and barbaric practice.

No it's not and halal slaughter results in more hygienic meat being eaten. There is no kill that is nice. Has anyone asked the animal if being stunned before being killed is preferable?

It absolutely IS barbaric and inhumane.  And the RSPCA and other bodies has done research into religious killing and concluded that halal and kosher killing without pre-stunning cause far more more pain and suffering than animals that are pre-stunned.

[Legion]

I completely agree with you Martin, but could you start a new thread in OT to continue this aspect of the debate? Thanks.

[olaftab]

The Tickets for Schools initiative is excellent and is now further afield than the immediate vicinity.

This is an excellent initiative. I have 2 nieces who are now completely Villa fans after getting tickets and coming to the Stoke match last season.

[olaftab]

There is a place right outside the ground selling Halal food. It has been open for two years and I have only ever seen one customer in there. I think it proves that opening Halal food outlets inside the ground, which would be at the expense of existing counters, would be a waste of time.

However DC5 this outlet is not very good and has poor presentation and lack of selection. Nothing to do with its offering being halal.
Again, honestly, offering halal food will do zilch in terms of attracting additional supporters.

[VillaBobby]

I'd just like to point out that in 06/07 Pubey was in charge, not Mr Fickle. So much for correct date.

I copied and pasted from another site, but I think the attendance figures are correct and highlight the rise in attendance in an improving side plateauing and then the decline in line with league position and performance.

Have any of you considering taking these ideas to Faulkner to see if he will invest in support?

So your claim that you are backing up what you say with data should actually read "i'm using data from another site but didn't bother to double check it"? 

You can continue to deny it but my claim that a successful side increases capacity is correct.

[PeterWithesShin]

Show me where I have denied it please. I'm simply pointing out your "factual" errors.

[pauliewalnuts]

You can continue to deny it but my claim that a successful side increases capacity is correct.

I presume you mean attendance.

I don't really think anyone is arguing that successful sides don't attract bigger crowds, so I don't really know why you're going on about it as if people are disagreeing.

[Dave Cooper please]

You can continue to deny it but my claim that a successful side increases capacity is correct.

Obviously.
But at the moment we aren't particularly successful are we? So any initiatives to attract fans would be welcome, yes?

[tomd2103]

The Tickets for Schools initiative is excellent and is now further afield than the immediate vicinity.

This is an excellent initiative. I have 2 nieces who are now completely Villa fans after getting tickets and coming to the Stoke match last season.

A schools initiative (maybe with some kind of reduced rates for parents / carers bringing kids) sounds a good one. 

[Legion]

With each voucher, the child goes for free and the accompanying adult gets a half-price ticket.

[VillaBobby]

You can continue to deny it but my claim that a successful side increases capacity is correct.

Obviously.
But at the moment we aren't particularly successful are we? So any initiatives to attract fans would be welcome, yes?

I totally agree, I have stated that all along. I think the initiatives should be more more expansive than selected postcodes though. Luckily I can afford to buy my son a season ticket, but many of his friends at school who are football fans are not so fortunate for whatever reason.

The kids are our future & most, I know not all before the rhetoric starts again, decide to be a football fan at an early age & select their club.

My sons school & my friends schools in Great Barr / Kingstanding have not had the offer of free tickets & these are very big catchment areas which I think is a shame as the uptake would be fantastic.

[Legion]

Has someone from the school actually contacted the club and asked to join?

[VillaBobby]

Has someone from the school actually contacted the club and asked to join?

I don't know to be fair. Is that what has to be done then?