Hutton & Jenas set to sign.

[Toronto Villa]

Bugger me we sign two blokes who can't get near the Spuds first team and all of a sudden they are Cinderella's as opposed to ugly sisters.

NRC was going to make all the difference

Sidwell was going to make all the difference

ireland was going to make all the difference

makoun was going to make all the difference

bannan was going to make all the difference

albrighton was going to make all the difference

Nzog is going to make all the difference


can you see the point??

jenas has been mediocre for years but he arrives at VP and all of a sudden the Aston air hits him and he gets a new lease of life.

Deluded

yes, we are deluded, and you've seen the light. Can you post something positive, just once, so that you don't appear to sound like a broken record. Everything is shit, the club is crap, the players are worthless, boo fucking hoo, oh woe is me. You give the impression of being in such pain talking about Villa that you must wonder to yourself sometimes why you even bother?

[avfcpg]

He's only on loan...get over yourself FFS..

[K3Villa]

Bugger me we sign two blokes who can't get near the Spuds first team and all of a sudden they are Cinderella's as opposed to ugly sisters.

NRC was going to make all the difference

Sidwell was going to make all the difference

ireland was going to make all the difference

makoun was going to make all the difference

bannan was going to make all the difference

albrighton was going to make all the difference

Nzog is going to make all the difference


can you see the point??

jenas has been mediocre for years but he arrives at VP and all of a sudden the Aston air hits him and he gets a new lease of life.

Deluded

It's more the case of getting behind the Villa players and supporting them in the hope they will perform to their best for the club. After all we are supporters..........aren't we??

[KevinGage]

This is minimal risk as far as I'm concerned.

Jenas does OK>good - we look at a permanent deal. Probably a bit lower than the £7/8 million quoted this summer - as he'll be further into his contract.

Jenas does shit -  He'll be gone in 12 months -and we won't have to write off another large fee.

True, there is a risk that if he does too  well, Saggy Chops and Levy will want him back. But whatever the manager situation there, it's likely that they'll be looking at the latest batch of in vogue midfielders to pack the squad out with. It's almost a given.

Can't pretend that I'm a fan of the loan system in general -particularly for a club of our size.  I'm struggling to think of the last decent club who actually had a good season based on hired help. It's OK for rookies of big clubs to go out to Norwich and the like and get game time - but that's about it.   Still Jenas is here now and -who knows- he might buck the trend. From what I've seen of him through the years, he does a bit of everything - without really excelling in one department.   Barry would stand out for his composure on the ball, and occasional bit of cheek when in possession.  Milner would stand out for his sheer industry -defending by our corner flag one moment and then attacking up the other end in the next passage of play.

Jenas has decent technique, decent pace can tackle and weigh in with a few goals. He was still featuring in some of Tottingham's CL side last year -despite their stockpile of other players for his position.  Where he has always struggled -as far as I can tell- is stamping his authority on the game/ bossing the midfield.   But sometimes things just click, as part of a triumvirate with Petrov and Delph he won't have to do that alone. ALL three of those can do the ugly stuff as well as the more creative stuff.

[johny]

Old interview regarding Jenas, seems a likeable fella. Good luck in the Claret & Blue mate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/aug/30/premierleague.tottenhamhotspur1

[KRS]

Even if Jenas does well for us, I think he has lost his chance at Spurs given that they should be aiming for CL and they will be looking to bring in someone better in midfield. Worst case scenario is they could use any decent form to increase the price. Obviously a managerial change may affect that if 'Arry goes but any new manager would have his own thoughts and targets anyway. First things first though...lets hope he does well for us this season.

[Dante Lavelli]

Bugger me we sign two blokes who can't get near the Spuds first team and all of a sudden they are Cinderella's as opposed to ugly sisters.

NRC was going to make all the difference

Sidwell was going to make all the difference

ireland was going to make all the difference

makoun was going to make all the difference

bannan was going to make all the difference

albrighton was going to make all the difference

Nzog is going to make all the difference


can you see the point??

jenas has been mediocre for years but he arrives at VP and all of a sudden the Aston air hits him and he gets a new lease of life.

Deluded

No, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Is it that more footballer are just normal rather than world class?

[Dave]

I'm struggling to think of the last decent club who actually had a good season based on hired help.

Tevez at Man Utd would be the example that springs to mind. But they'd probably have won everything even if he hadn't been there.

[john e]

He's only on loan...get over yourself FFS..

Who UsualSuspect ?   When and where does he go back ?

[KevinGage]

That Tevez deal was a weird Latin American/ Italian style deal, wasn't it? Didn't that spiv Joorabchin own his licence or summat, so Man U were effectively loaning Tevez from him -rather than being helped out by another club.

In fact, the whole loan market in Italy -joint ownership and all the rest of it is seriously open to abuse.  If UEFA/ FIFA were not parasitic cash chasers themselves, they might want to take a closer look at that.

[TheSandman]

I take it your glass is half empty?

No. UsualSuspect's glass has been spilled on the floor, smashed and he has trod barefoot on the shards. And that is on a good day.

[Vanilla]

I'm struggling to think of the last decent club who actually had a good season based on hired help.

Tevez at Man Utd would be the example that springs to mind. But they'd probably have won everything even if he hadn't been there.

Carbone was effective in parts when he joined us in 99-00 on loan.

[ozzjim]

Sturridge was effective for Bolton on loan, as was Wellbeck at Sunderland. Jenas is nowhere near as bad as people are making out, and will be a good addition with no risk. Plays well I reckon he will want to stay.

[RunRickyRun]

Bugger me we sign two blokes who can't get near the Spuds first team and all of a sudden they are Cinderella's as opposed to ugly sisters.

NRC was going to make all the difference

Sidwell was going to make all the difference

ireland was going to make all the difference

makoun was going to make all the difference

bannan was going to make all the difference

albrighton was going to make all the difference

Nzog is going to make all the difference


can you see the point??

jenas has been mediocre for years but he arrives at VP and all of a sudden the Aston air hits him and he gets a new lease of life.

Deluded

What are you still doing here then?

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think Jenas will do well for Villa, as he will be hungry to prove himself and stick two fingers up to Harry Redknapp.

I will think Spurs will not want him back as they will be looking for more exotic players. I do like him as a player. But not sure how good is he as I don't watch him regularly.