Hutton & Jenas set to sign.

[Iago]

Jenas has a lot to prove IMO.

[ozzjim]

This is the Sidwell esque Jenas that Mourinho wanted to take to Inter as he saw him as one of the more technically gifted English midfielders

I totally forgot about that, there again Mourinho did sign Sidwell too.

I totally forgot about that! Not the best defence witness chosen by me there! Ooops!

[Vanilla]

For everyone saying that Jenas isnt any good...do you remember Darren Bent at Spurs? Since leaving the club he improved vastly and is now worshipped down at VP. A similar transformation could happen to JJ. Give him a chance.

I remember Darren Bent being very good before Spurs, very good at Spurs and very good after leaving Spurs.

I remember Jenas being average before Spurs and average at Spurs. I'm crossing my fingers that something changes, but I'm not banking on it.

We can't really judge both Jenas and Hutton on how they performed recently because they both couldn't get in the team. There is potential for both, but they are stick your neck out signings. Jenas could be a Solano game changer or a Leonhardson/Djemba Djemban non-entity.

Also, I take it the Joe Cole approach was before we went in for Jenas. If so, he wasn't even a first choice desperation signing.

[ozzjim]

Joe Cole and Jenas are very different players, I reckon we might well have got all 3 had Cole agreed to come. I think he would have been a top signing too.

[Can Gana Be Bettered!?!?]

For everyone saying that Jenas isnt any good...do you remember Darren Bent at Spurs? Since leaving the club he improved vastly and is now worshipped down at VP. A similar transformation could happen to JJ. Give him a chance.

I remember Darren Bent being very good before Spurs, very good at Spurs and very good after leaving Spurs.

I remember Jenas being average before Spurs and average at Spurs. I'm crossing my fingers that something changes, but I'm not banking on it.

If Darren Bent was "very good" at Spurs, why did they sell him? Teams like Spurs don't sell "very good" players. They buy them.

[Mazrim]

They do indeed sell very good players.

[ozzjim]

They do indeed sell very good players.

Lots of them! Spurs are just more skilled at it than us.

[Vanilla]

They do indeed sell very good players.

Lots of them! Spurs are just more skilled at it than us.

They kept Modric though. Fair play to them for that. It may cost them, but at least they stuck their ground. We just took it for granted that Young and Downing were leaving.

[andym]

easier for spurs to keep him when he still has 4 or 5 years left on his contract. if like young or downing he was in his last year or 2 i have no doubt they would have taken the mega money on offer this summer.  he will go at some point, just like carrick, berbatov and keane did. and just like bale will.  and we stuck our ground with barry, didnt really help us in the long term. we sold him for 8 million less than we would have the season before and keeping him that extra year didnt help us get a higher position.

anyway, i think hutton is a good replacement for young. younger, better going foward and i dont think really any worse at defending to be honest.  jenas im not a fan of. i think he has talent in there but he never shows it enough. seems to get injured quite a bit as well.

[Louzie0]

Whoop de do ?? Who f*ckin' cares?

Well if you dont, why bother posting on the thread??

I think they are going to be major players for Villa and when I look at the squad as it is I see terrific opportunities for Alan and Jermaine to make their mark in the PL.
Add to Given, N'Zogbia and Stevens (in January) - a very effective use of funds in a tansfer window, so well done AMcL.

[Nirog72]

We'll find out won't we? Jenas has been highly rated enough to move to various 'large' clubs. This suggests there is plenty there and he is still not too old to prove himself. If he is shit, which I doubt, he will be replaced by the kids and f*cked off back to Spurs. I think he will do ok but if he doesn't not the end of the world. Hutton is at least as good as Young and is younger. We have spent £4m (?) partially (if not totally) sorted the finances, are unbeaten so far this season and have plenty to look forward to. I don't think any of our signings this summer are as shit as others do, for one thing they are all international players (and before the pedants arrive, I know nothing about Enda in terms of International experience and he doesn't arrive until Jan anyway). Just my thoughts and opinion. We'll see how it goes...

[KRS]

For everyone saying that Jenas isnt any good...do you remember Darren Bent at Spurs? Since leaving the club he improved vastly and is now worshipped down at VP. A similar transformation could happen to JJ. Give him a chance.

I remember Darren Bent being very good before Spurs, very good at Spurs and very good after leaving Spurs.

I remember Jenas being average before Spurs and average at Spurs. I'm crossing my fingers that something changes, but I'm not banking on it.

If Darren Bent was "very good" at Spurs, why did they sell him? Teams like Spurs don't sell "very good" players. They buy them.

His spell at Spurs was his least prolific of all the clubs he played for and was mainly limited to cameo appearances coming off the bench (at least towards the end of his stay anyway) so it could be argued he did well considering the limited amount of game time, however what I remember mostly was the public humiliation and criticism from 'Arry and the media.

[Vanilla]

easier for spurs to keep him when he still has 4 or 5 years left on his contract. if like young or downing he was in his last year or 2 i have no doubt they would have taken the mega money on offer this summer.  he will go at some point, just like carrick, berbatov and keane did. and just like bale will.  and we stuck our ground with barry, didnt really help us in the long term. we sold him for 8 million less than we would have the season before and keeping him that extra year didnt help us get a higher position.

anyway, i think hutton is a good replacement for young. younger, better going foward and i dont think really any worse at defending to be honest.  jenas im not a fan of. i think he has talent in there but he never shows it enough. seems to get injured quite a bit as well.

Yes they sold Carrick etc, but perhaps this is where they decided they had to keep the family jewels otherwise why bother. They probably knew they couldn't attract anyone else of his stature, even with all that money. Also they still have a class midfielder in Van der Vaart as well.

I can understand Young going, as everyone saw that coming. The Downing one wasn't really on the cards. We should have stood our ground, as it has really left us short creatively for this season.

[villadelph]

If Hutton two-foots Downing he'll be a hero.

[LeeB]

They do indeed sell very good players.

Lots of them! Spurs are just more skilled at it than us.

They kept Modric though. Fair play to them for that. It may cost them, but at least they stuck their ground. We just took it for granted that Young and Downing were leaving.

Yeah, and we kept Barry for a year when Liverpool were in for him, something forgotten in the rush to wank over Spurs.

Lets see how well it serves them.