Randys Reaction

[dave.woodhall]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

[Risso]

I'd like to walk away from my mortgage, but to do so I'd have to sell my house.


He wouldn't ever leave us anyway, he's got a Villa tattoo.

[nordenvillain]

The apparent complete disregard for the feelings of the regular supporter at the present time leads me to believe we'd be better off without him.

Are there any other billionaires you know of looking to buy a Premier League club and hand it over to a  supporter co-operative?

Well it isn't anymore is it?

It never has been, so how would we be better off?

Because we might, just might, have an owner who understood the difference between a good manager and a mediocre one.

We might, just might, also get someone like Yeung or the clowns at Blackburn. Randy has made one unpopular decision so far, it hasn't yet been proved right or wrong, but he's being told to go. What was your opinion of him when he was shelling out £24 million in January?

Only one? Don't make me laugh.

How come we haven't heard you moaning before then?

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Just so that I understand what you mean :
1. Is there a difference between an unpopular decision and a questionable decision ? If so, please elaborate as to which ones were unpopular and which ones were questionable.
2. If any of his decisions have been both unpopular and questionable, please elaborate.
For what's it worth, I think that Randy has made a lot more popular and unquestionable decisions than the other sort, viz. Acorns sponsorship, free coaches, opening his cheque book to a much greater extent than most other owners in the PL. Also, if getting an arab owners a la Man City turns a high proportion of your fans into 1st class arseholes and completely and utterly oblivious to how a football club should be run, forget it for me - I live and work in the Manchester area and the City fans have to a great extent turned into the greatest glory hunters bar none. They win the FA Cup and 35 years of non achievement conveniently gets forgotten.

[sixways]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew but, based upon the existing evidence, there isn't a cat in hell's chance of that happening judging by every other team he's managed. Three relegations, lowest scoring Premiership team, lowest corner count etc. etc. He was in charge of a team that have just been relegated (playing, by all accounts according to some Bluenose friends, some of the worst football ever witnessed at St Andrews) and we've 'poached' him for Heaven's sake and you're prepared to back that decision? Ludicrous.

[Irish villain]

We have ti like it or lump it sadly.

[dave.woodhall]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew but, based upon the existing evidence, there isn't a cat in hell's chance of that happening judging by every other team he's managed. Three relegations, lowest scoring Premiership team, lowest corner count etc. etc. He was in charge of a team that have just been relegated (playing, by all accounts according to some Bluenose friends, some of the worst football ever witnessed at St Andrews) and we've 'poached' him for Heaven's sake and you're prepared to back that decision? Ludicrous.

I don't agree with it. I haven't ever said I agree with it. But I'm not going to act like some spoilt kid who hasn't had his own way and call Randy things he clearly isn't just because I think he might be making a  mistake.

[sixways]

The apparent complete disregard for the feelings of the regular supporter at the present time leads me to believe we'd be better off without him.

Are there any other billionaires you know of looking to buy a Premier League club and hand it over to a  supporter co-operative?

Well it isn't anymore is it?

It never has been, so how would we be better off?

Because we might, just might, have an owner who understood the difference between a good manager and a mediocre one.

We might, just might, also get someone like Yeung or the clowns at Blackburn. Randy has made one unpopular decision so far, it hasn't yet been proved right or wrong, but he's being told to go. What was your opinion of him when he was shelling out £24 million in January?

Only one? Don't make me laugh.

How come we haven't heard you moaning before then?

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Just so that I understand what you mean :
1. Is there a difference between an unpopular decision and a questionable decision ? If so, please elaborate as to which ones were unpopular and which ones were questionable.

It depends on your point of view - appointing McLeish would obviously fit into both categories. On a purely questionable basis, the most recent one is 'sacking' GED without the foggiest idea of who to replace him with.

2. If any of his decisions have been both unpopular and questionable, please elaborate.

As above. McLeish is the obvious one. Giving MON money to spend on poor quality players. Employing GED. All unpopular and questionable in some quarters.

For what's it worth, I think that Randy has made a lot more popular and unquestionable decisions than the other sort, viz. Acorns sponsorship, free coaches, opening his cheque book to a much greater extent than most other owners in the PL.

I agree wholeheartedly. The Acorns sponsorship especially.

Also, if getting an arab owners a la Man City turns a high proportion of your fans into 1st class arseholes and completely and utterly oblivious to how a football club should be run, forget it for me - I live and work in the Manchester area and the City fans have to a great extent turned into the greatest glory hunters bar none. They win the FA Cup and 35 years of non achievement conveniently gets forgotten.

Who said anything about a Man City type owner? All I would like is an owner who knows the difference between a good manager and a poor one. I might be wrong but the Board, as it is, seem utterly clueless when it comes to footballing matters and, more recently, the good PR has gone too.

[sixways]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew but, based upon the existing evidence, there isn't a cat in hell's chance of that happening judging by every other team he's managed. Three relegations, lowest scoring Premiership team, lowest corner count etc. etc. He was in charge of a team that have just been relegated (playing, by all accounts according to some Bluenose friends, some of the worst football ever witnessed at St Andrews) and we've 'poached' him for Heaven's sake and you're prepared to back that decision? Ludicrous.

I don't agree with it. I haven't ever said I agree with it. But I'm not going to act like some spoilt kid who hasn't had his own way and call Randy things he clearly isn't just because I think he might be making a  mistake.

What have I called him that he isn't? And choosing not to renew is acting like a 'spoilt kid'? It's a decision I've made that you obviously don't agree with. So be it. If that's being a 'spoilt kid' then, yes, I'm a spoilt kid.

[Dave Cooper please]

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew

And the last time, under any manager, we played like that was?

[Risso]

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew

And the last time, under any manager, we played like that was?

Most of the 1990s.

[dave.woodhall]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew but, based upon the existing evidence, there isn't a cat in hell's chance of that happening judging by every other team he's managed. Three relegations, lowest scoring Premiership team, lowest corner count etc. etc. He was in charge of a team that have just been relegated (playing, by all accounts according to some Bluenose friends, some of the worst football ever witnessed at St Andrews) and we've 'poached' him for Heaven's sake and you're prepared to back that decision? Ludicrous.

I don't agree with it. I haven't ever said I agree with it. But I'm not going to act like some spoilt kid who hasn't had his own way and call Randy things he clearly isn't just because I think he might be making a  mistake.

What have I called him that he isn't? And choosing not to renew is acting like a 'spoilt kid'? It's a decision I've made that you obviously don't agree with. So be it. If that's being a 'spoilt kid' then, yes, I'm a spoilt kid.

You've said he's made a string of unpopular decisions, the board are uttterly clueless and we'd be better off without him.

[TopDeck113]

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew

And the last time, under any manager, we played like that was?

1976 - 77, but only at home.

[sixways]

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew

And the last time, under any manager, we played like that was?

Good question! We've had flashes of it under different managers. Under McLeish we ain't NEVER gonna see it and that's why I'm not renewing.

[phantom limb]

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew

And the last time, under any manager, we played like that was?

Good question! We've had flashes of it under different managers. Under McLeish we ain't NEVER gonna see it and that's why I'm not renewing.

That's the spirit.

[sixways]

Because none of the other questionable decisions he's made in the past have been so bad as the one he's apparently just made.

Here's a novelty. How about waiting to see what happens before you judge the rights and wrong of this decision?

Like I said in another thread, if we become the sort of team that we all would like to see (free-scoring, ball to feet, possession, no long, hopeful punts upfield) then I'll renew but, based upon the existing evidence, there isn't a cat in hell's chance of that happening judging by every other team he's managed. Three relegations, lowest scoring Premiership team, lowest corner count etc. etc. He was in charge of a team that have just been relegated (playing, by all accounts according to some Bluenose friends, some of the worst football ever witnessed at St Andrews) and we've 'poached' him for Heaven's sake and you're prepared to back that decision? Ludicrous.

I don't agree with it. I haven't ever said I agree with it. But I'm not going to act like some spoilt kid who hasn't had his own way and call Randy things he clearly isn't just because I think he might be making a  mistake.

What have I called him that he isn't? And choosing not to renew is acting like a 'spoilt kid'? It's a decision I've made that you obviously don't agree with. So be it. If that's being a 'spoilt kid' then, yes, I'm a spoilt kid.

You've said he's made a string of unpopular decisions, the board are uttterly clueless and we'd be better off without him.

So I haven't actually called him anything have I?

And, yes, I'd like us to have a Board that knows the difference between a good manager and a poor manager. What's wrong with that?