Young completes Man Utd move

[Dave]

They've not signed De Gea yet.

The problem is that they're buying their team for the next five years and signing the young players who are the best in their position i.e Jones and Young.

Unfortunately Liverpool seem to be paying more money for players who aren't as good.

[lovejoy]

Greedy? Disloyal? How did we get him in the first place?

[Tony]

Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

Are you suggesting he should have stayed at Watford then?

[rutski]

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

if you read the statement it says may, i feel it had a big part!

Why does he overhit all the free kicks, get albrighton to take them, he takes all the frigging corners, diving bastard is an embarrasment, lazy fucker doesnt track back, get the selfesh bastard on the wing, he aint no good as second striker!
i may have heard all these comments once or twice!

[The Situation]

there will be alot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!

Spot on.

Some of the abuse he was getting on here was quite baffling. He was our best player. I don't think some people actually realise how big of a loss he'll be. Bigger than Barry and Milner. He needs to be replaced with quality unlike we did with Milner.

After Fabregas he made the most assists.

The trend of selling our best players has got to stop though. We look like a joke. Three of our best players gone in three seasons, if we have European ambitions again it needs to stop.

[mrfuse]

They've not signed De Gea yet.

The problem is that they're buying their team for the next five years and signing the young players who are the best in their position i.e Jones and Young.

Unfortunately Liverpool seem to be paying more money for players who aren't as good.

Yep i agree Jones looks a really good buy, bit pricey but him and smalling will form a really good partnership eventually. very impressed with both of them, but Henderson Ive watched him quite a lot and i cant see it Id be laughing if i got £5m for him

[The Situation]

Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash

That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.

He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.

Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.

Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.

He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.

Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.

As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.

Ironic considering you spent £35 million, yes I repeat, £35 million on Andy Carroll and £20 million, yes I repeat, £20 million on Jordan Henderson. What were you thinking? It's £30 million minimum for Downing if you want him.

I must admit though i'm also quite confused by spending £15 million on Phil Jones, a player I've only heard of in recent months and looked really clumsy when I watched him on a couple of occasions. The transfer fees are getting ridiculous.

[mrfuse]

Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

Are you suggesting he should have stayed at Watford then?

I think hes just pointing out thats what the modern day footballer really is Greedy and disloyal at the end of the day. I pay a lot of money to watch them every year i dont like it but thats the way it is

[mrfuse]

Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash

That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.

He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.

Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.

Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.

He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.

Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.

As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.

Ironic considering you spent £35 million, yes I repeat, £35 million on Andy Carroll and £20 million, yes I repeat, £20 million on Jordan Henderson. What were you thinking? It's £30 million minimum for Downing if you want him.

I must admit though i'm also quite confused by spending £15 million on Phil Jones, a player I've only heard of in recent months and looked really clumsy when I watched him on a couple of occasions. The transfer fees are getting ridiculous.

Honestly mate Jones looks decent he reminds me of john Terry but quicker he will be a good buy even at that price

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I've really enjoyed watching Ashley Young over the last four and a half seasons, but lately the quality of his performances has begun to drift. This move gives him the chance to reach for the next level (first team and England regular) or fade away to squad player status (League Cup and EPL starts against the lesser teams). Personally I hope it's the former; it'll be a tough challenge, and probably what he needs at this stage in his career. Good luck Ash!

Agree completely Cal...Ash has been great to watch and develop as a player over the last 4 years, but he does seem to have had a bit of an indifferent season for us, sometimes because I think he's tried too hard, trying to do everything instead of letting other players take the responsibility they should (Downing prime example). Some of Ash's dead ball stuff has been really poor at times but in open play he's been much better. I think we'll miss him but that's not saying he can't be replaced by someone who can be just as effective but in a different way/role for the team. N'Zogbia's been mentioned loads on this site. Any other suggestions?

[Redman]

They've not signed De Gea yet.

The problem is that they're buying their team for the next five years and signing the young players who are the best in their position i.e Jones and Young.

Unfortunately Liverpool seem to be paying more money for players who aren't as good.

De Gea is as much of a formality as Young was.

I'm looking at this in terms of closing the gap. I look at De Gea and don't see an improvement on Van Der Sar, Jones isn't an improvement on Vidic and Young isn't an improvement on Nani or Valencia.

I don't see a team building to improve as much as one building to maintain it's level. The squad is getting deeper but the quality isn't getting better.

Whatever you think of Suarez, Carroll and Henderson, they are all significantly better than the players they they've replaced (considering Torres was a write-off at that point).

[Dave]

Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

Are you suggesting he should have stayed at Watford then?

I think hes just pointing out thats what the modern day footballer really is Greedy and disloyal at the end of the day. I pay a lot of money to watch them every year i dont like it but thats the way it is

Presumably you think clubs should display the same loyalty?

And that we should have offered new contracts to Osborne, Salifou and Harewood?

Why should players commit themselves to clubs for their careers if that's not going to be reciprocated?

[Legion]

It's their job. They move on. We all do.

[Californian Villain]

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

That's not fair in my view; he's left because he's going to a bigger club where he will get the chance to play with better players and win trophies. It's called career progression.

[KevinGage]

The thing about Fergie -as much as it pains me to say it- is he's pretty much without equal when it comes to rebuilding a squad.

In the past this was no doubt helped by having more funds available than any of his rivals. But the core of the 1995 lot were homegrown and post 2003 (nevermind 2008+ with Citeh) he wouldn't be even close to matching Chelsea's resources. Jones never looked particularly outstanding to me any time I've seen him, I must admit. Ditto Smalling.  But if he thinks that pair, plus Hernandez up top are the future they must have a bit about them.  He's had a few 'mares too, of course (Djemba twins, Kleberson, Alan Smith) proving that no one is untouchable.

I'm not sure Ash is genuinely good enough to be one of their big players for years to come though. But he does bring a fair bit of Prem and international experience at still a relatively young age. And aside from his creativity he also grafts, so that'll appeal to Fergie.

 A real pisser that we're selling our best player again but I suppose it's better than losing our best players to Boro. We must have been close to the right path with the amount of quality players that have been sought by other clubs in recent years.