Ash was great, but needed a move like this. Milner upset me much more, and Downing will anger me cause the little bitch owes us big time!
there will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!
Whatever you think of Suarez, Carroll and Henderson, they are all significantly better than the players they they've replaced (considering Torres was a write-off at that point).
Quote from: ozzjim on June 23, 2011, 05:46:38 PMAsh was great, but needed a move like this. Milner upset me much more, and Downing will anger me cause the little bitch owes us big time!I agree Ashley needed to move but, likewise, I do feel we needed to get rid. It's good business all round and, in many ways, it simply represents a dismantling of the O'Neill team and era (which is no bad thing) as things had become more than a little stale.Obviously, the key to all of this is that we replace Ashley (and Carew, Fiedel, Reo etc.) with genuine quality. It's going to be very interesting.
Quote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:30:33 PMQuote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:20:48 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 07:17:13 PMQuote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:06:45 PMQuote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.Ironic considering you spent £35 million, yes I repeat, £35 million on Andy Carroll and £20 million, yes I repeat, £20 million on Jordan Henderson. What were you thinking? It's £30 million minimum for Downing if you want him.I must admit though i'm also quite confused by spending £15 million on Phil Jones, a player I've only heard of in recent months and looked really clumsy when I watched him on a couple of occasions. The transfer fees are getting ridiculous.
Quote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:20:48 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 07:17:13 PMQuote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:06:45 PMQuote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.
Quote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 07:17:13 PMQuote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:06:45 PMQuote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.
Quote from: Dave on June 23, 2011, 07:06:45 PMQuote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.
Quote from: Redman on June 23, 2011, 07:04:19 PMQuote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
Quote from: mrfuse on June 23, 2011, 06:51:24 PMIve got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ashThat sort of thing is their raison d'être.I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
Quotethere will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine! I am not going to sleep tonight because of this enlightening post. Where was the abuse towards him? He was worshipped like Milner-Barry-O'Neill; I was disgusted by AY's attitude against WBA, but forgave him because he played for us. He joined us for himself and left for himself, nobody influences his decision making. We have lost an average to good winger, I know what we have lost! I owe him no tenderness or goodwill for the future.
Quote from: Iago on June 23, 2011, 08:08:10 PMQuotethere will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine! I am not going to sleep tonight because of this enlightening post. Where was the abuse towards him? He was worshipped like Milner-Barry-O'Neill; I was disgusted by AY's attitude against WBA, but forgave him because he played for us. He joined us for himself and left for himself, nobody influences his decision making. We have lost an average to good winger, I know what we have lost! I owe him no tenderness or goodwill for the future.i aint bothered by your lack of sleep but you are exactley the person(div) that sits by me and comes out with the shit comments, the one who wanted change, the one with the banner!You now got change, you got new managers you can carry on slagging off players!
Oh and good luck for the future Ash;