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Online Billy Walker

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #450 on: June 23, 2011, 08:07:45 PM »
Ash was great, but needed a move like this. Milner upset me much more, and Downing will anger me cause the little bitch owes us big time!

I agree Ashley needed to move but, likewise, I do feel we needed to get rid.  It's good business all round and, in many ways, it  simply represents a dismantling of the O'Neill team and era (which is no bad thing) as things had become more than a little stale.

Obviously, the key to all of this is that we replace Ashley (and Carew, Fiedel, Reo etc.) with genuine quality.  It's going to be very interesting.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #451 on: June 23, 2011, 08:08:10 PM »
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there will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!
I am not going to sleep tonight because of this enlightening post. Where was the abuse towards him? He was worshipped like Milner-Barry-O'Neill; I was disgusted by AY's attitude against WBA, but forgave him because he played for us.  He joined us for himself and left for himself, nobody influences his decision making.

We have lost an average to good winger, I know what we have lost! I owe him no tenderness or goodwill for the future.



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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #452 on: June 23, 2011, 08:11:11 PM »
Whatever you think of Suarez, Carroll and Henderson, they are all significantly better than the players they they've replaced (considering Torres was a write-off at that point).

I agree with Carroll and Suarez but not Henderson, I just hope we go for Nzogbia being as he was linked with Mcleish before you would think he would be the ideal replacement if we can get him
« Last Edit: June 23, 2011, 08:12:59 PM by mrfuse »

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #453 on: June 23, 2011, 08:15:52 PM »
Ash was great, but needed a move like this. Milner upset me much more, and Downing will anger me cause the little bitch owes us big time!

I agree Ashley needed to move but, likewise, I do feel we needed to get rid.  It's good business all round and, in many ways, it  simply represents a dismantling of the O'Neill team and era (which is no bad thing) as things had become more than a little stale.

Obviously, the key to all of this is that we replace Ashley (and Carew, Fiedel, Reo etc.) with genuine quality.  It's going to be very interesting.

Can't help but think that rather than being interesting, it will be a disappointment.

Offline Redman

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #454 on: June 23, 2011, 08:16:10 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.
Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.

He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.

Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.
As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.
Ironic considering you spent £35 million, yes I repeat, £35 million on Andy Carroll and £20 million, yes I repeat, £20 million on Jordan Henderson. What were you thinking? It's £30 million minimum for Downing if you want him.

I must admit though i'm also quite confused by spending £15 million on Phil Jones, a player I've only heard of in recent months and looked really clumsy when I watched him on a couple of occasions. The transfer fees are getting ridiculous.
Except it wasn't £20m. It was £16m rising to £19.25m or something.

Still a lot of money, sure. What were they thinking? I'll tell you. They were thinking about age, potential, amortization, resale value as well as the transfer fee and salary.

When you factor in all the above, the risk is offset and the Henderson deal is of potentially better value to Liverpool than a deal for Downing for the same fee.

In the most simple terms, you can say Downing is a better player right now therefore he is worth more. And if it is that simple, you can expect that £30m offer any day now.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #455 on: June 23, 2011, 08:18:38 PM »
Though it perhaps doesn't seem like it now, there could be a benefit in being stung again.  English players are always in demand and at a premium with the upcoming legislation coming in. It might force us to broaden our horizons and not limit ourselves to largely home based players.  In the past this might have been seen as a good policy, and it would generally be seen as a healthy state of affairs if you had a few current England internationals on the books.

But there are some pretty ordinary current internationals in the England set up, and I do wonder just how attractive Barry, Milner, Downing or even Ash may have been to rival clubs had they not been English.

Maybe it'll mean that from now on we don't put all our eggs in one basket and if our better players are foreign, there may be less likelyhood that we have to face this scenario every bastard summer.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #456 on: June 23, 2011, 08:25:44 PM »
Personally I wish him all the best he was a good and exciting player, yes he was frustrating at times but he won't be easy to replace. We've lost some good players I hope we can get a couple of marquee signings in. We must have slashed the wage bill

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #457 on: June 23, 2011, 08:34:29 PM »
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there will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!
I am not going to sleep tonight because of this enlightening post. Where was the abuse towards him? He was worshipped like Milner-Barry-O'Neill; I was disgusted by AY's attitude against WBA, but forgave him because he played for us.  He joined us for himself and left for himself, nobody influences his decision making.

We have lost an average to good winger, I know what we have lost! I owe him no tenderness or goodwill for the future.



i aint bothered by your lack of sleep but you are exactley the person(div) that sits by me and comes out with the shit comments, the one who wanted change, the one with the banner!
You now got change, you got new managers you can carry on slagging off players!

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #458 on: June 23, 2011, 08:54:08 PM »
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there will be a lot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!
I am not going to sleep tonight because of this enlightening post. Where was the abuse towards him? He was worshipped like Milner-Barry-O'Neill; I was disgusted by AY's attitude against WBA, but forgave him because he played for us.  He joined us for himself and left for himself, nobody influences his decision making.

We have lost an average to good winger, I know what we have lost! I owe him no tenderness or goodwill for the future.



i aint bothered by your lack of sleep but you are exactley the person(div) that sits by me and comes out with the shit comments, the one who wanted change, the one with the banner!
You now got change, you got new managers you can carry on slagging off players!
Nonsense. You are making a lot of incorrect assumptions about me. Let me clarify my position; all I simply want is individuals committed to the Aston Villa cause.

I can assure you that Ashley Young did not leave here because of fan criticism.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #459 on: June 23, 2011, 08:56:51 PM »
Hope he plays against us at Villa Park in December.
I can have a go at him properly for diving and hopping about on one leg whenever someone puts a proper tackle in on him.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #460 on: June 23, 2011, 09:02:35 PM »
Personal opinion ... i think Young Marc will be better than Ash ever was
Ash never disrespected us as fans ok he had a tendency to moan if things werent going his way and I honestly would get frustrated with him at times.
Did well for us tho and I wish him well for the future  8)

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #461 on: June 23, 2011, 09:14:35 PM »
Albrighton is better now than Ash was at his age and will go on to be a top player in this league. I always saw it in him.
Purely as a winger though, I think Ash is more versatile.

I havent read anything from Man United player Young yet. Did he mention Villa at all?

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #462 on: June 23, 2011, 09:15:49 PM »
Yes. In his interview he praised our club and the fans.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #463 on: June 23, 2011, 09:16:17 PM »
When Barry jumped ship I was angry, when Milner left I was disappointed, now Ash has gone I feel nothing really; we cannot at this stage offer our best players Champions League football and seem a long way off breaking into the elite again so I fully understand his decision to leave

Here's hoping we're not saying goodbye to our best player again in another 12 months...

Oh and good luck for the future Ash;

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #464 on: June 23, 2011, 09:37:29 PM »
Oh and good luck for the future Ash;
Here, here.  Manchester United, can't blame the boy.  Oh well good and bad days, more the first.  We will bounce back from this loss and spend big big big.....?!

 


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