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Offline MadJohnnyC

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #420 on: June 23, 2011, 07:13:35 PM »
That makes it three summers in a row losing our best player :-(

Huge fan of Ash, had some unfair criticism at times. Providing Downing stays I'd not bother reinvesting in a winger just go with him and Albrighton down the flanks.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #421 on: June 23, 2011, 07:14:25 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
You might not replace what he brought to the team but you can surely replace what he brought with something else. Good players leave clubs all the time, the impact is absorbed and the character of the team changes - often for the better.

It's a matter of opinion but I don't think he's a better or more effective player than either Nani or Valencia. He's their equal at best.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2011, 07:15:58 PM by Redman »

Offline Redman

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #422 on: June 23, 2011, 07:15:09 PM »
duplicate

Offline rutski

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #423 on: June 23, 2011, 07:15:31 PM »
there will be alot on here who will realise finally what we have lost!

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?

I personally think he will be sensational for them and shine!

Offline mrfuse

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #424 on: June 23, 2011, 07:17:13 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.

I know you wont agree but i think Bent is our best player purely because you dont get many strikers that score that many goals and we should make sure we dont lose him soon.
Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #425 on: June 23, 2011, 07:18:52 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
You might not replace what he brought to the team but you can surely replace what he brought with something else. Good players leave clubs all the time, the impact is absorbed and the character of the team changes - often for the better.

It's a matter of opinion but I don't think he's a better or more effective player than either Nani or Valencia. He's their equal at best.

yeah agree totally was just posting a similar comment when you posted this

Offline Californian Villain

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #426 on: June 23, 2011, 07:19:25 PM »
I've really enjoyed watching Ashley Young over the last four and a half seasons, but lately the quality of his performances has begun to drift. This move gives him the chance to reach for the next level (first team and England regular) or fade away to squad player status (League Cup and EPL starts against the lesser teams). Personally I hope it's the former; it'll be a tough challenge, and probably what he needs at this stage in his career. Good luck Ash!

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #427 on: June 23, 2011, 07:19:26 PM »

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?


Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #428 on: June 23, 2011, 07:19:31 PM »
Alright Dave, he was only being nice.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #429 on: June 23, 2011, 07:20:48 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.
Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.

He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.

Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #430 on: June 23, 2011, 07:21:44 PM »
Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.
He's probably quit because he is going to a bigger club to win trophies.

Offline mrfuse

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #431 on: June 23, 2011, 07:22:01 PM »

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?


Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.

Yep I agree harsh but true

Offline rutski

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #432 on: June 23, 2011, 07:23:03 PM »

Constant whingeing and slagging off of our best and most creative player may have contributed to him going?


Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.
if you read the statement it says may, i feel it had a big part!

Offline Redman

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #433 on: June 23, 2011, 07:30:33 PM »
Ive got loads of Man utd armchair fans taunting me about ash
That sort of thing is their raison d'être.

I agree with you - Young is a good player but hardly irreplaceable.
He's our best player by a distance and it will be have to be something pretty impressive transfer-wise to replace what he brought to our team.

And he's better than any winger currently on their books, so I'm pretty sure that he'll do more than 'add depth'.
Again Because Valencia just does the basics really well like getting good crosses in the box and a lot of tracking back a lot of people dont rate him, hes not flash but i think hes a really good player so i wouldnt say is better than him about the same, but their different kind of wingers.
Valencia and Nani are both very good players, but Young is better than either.

He's certainly more versatile than either, he's more disciplined and works harder than Nani, he's better with the ball at his feet and more unpredictable than Valencia.

Valencia has a better cross and Nani has a better shot - but in terms of the overall package and what they bring to the team, Young tops either of them. Which he'll prove next season.
I reckon the three of them are pretty much interchangeable.

For arguments sake, even if Young is the best of the bunch, I wouldn't say he's significantly better.

As a Liverpool supporter, I'm quite pleased with the Mancs' transfer business so far this summer. In De Gea, Jones and Young, they've spent the best part of £50m on players who I don't think are better than what they've got. The scary ones for me are the likes of Sanchez, Sneijder and Modric.

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Re: Young completes Man Utd move
« Reply #434 on: June 23, 2011, 07:33:17 PM »
Rubbish. He has not been influenced by any bad treatment handed out to him at VP in fact opposite is the case. He has quit because he is a modern greedy footballer with no sense of loyalty.
He's probably quit because he is going to a bigger club to win trophies.

I'd even argue Dave that he hasn't even quit. Rather he's done what any one of us would do if our careers spanned only 10-15 years at most. He wants to achieve as much as he can and he's fortunate that the very best team in England have offered him that chance. He'll now be on the biggest stage available and he'll have to produce which he'll be very much aware of. He's given us some very good years and memories, and why anyone would be bitter is beyond me. He's always said the right things about the fans and club.

When Stewart Downing goes, even if it might be for a similar reason, it will be different because he'd hardly given us everything, especially with regard to what we paid and how we helped him. I expect he'll the full treatment and rightly so.

 


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