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Author Topic: Is the game ready for gays?  (Read 29798 times)

Offline eamonn

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #75 on: November 17, 2010, 01:27:15 AM »
By coincidence, I was just reading an article on the beeb the other day about Mario Gomes, the German international calling for gays to come out publicly.


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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #76 on: November 17, 2010, 08:57:13 AM »
Quote from: Croatian Football Federation president Vlatko Markovic

"Luckily, only normal people play football".


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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #77 on: November 17, 2010, 09:57:20 AM »
I must admit two women together does it for me what about you Dave.

Offline TimTheVillain

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #78 on: November 17, 2010, 11:52:22 AM »
I don't think it's ready for gays; the next generation maybe.

Offline montague

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #79 on: November 17, 2010, 12:47:58 PM »
Homophobic chants could be erradicated over time by a zero tolerance policy within grounds and I would hope most civilised people would report any incidents. I fear the biggest issue would be hostility amongst teammates, which beggars belief but a dressing room is a "macho" environment and we are mostly talking about ill educated people here. I doubt very much that any club would take a stand here by disciplining or even firing a valuable player for homophobic behaviour which is an appalling state. Fowler should have been dragged over the coals for the Le saux incident but instead it was good old Robbie having a laff.

In my experience though with my own teenage kids and their mates , colour of skin or sexuality is not even remotely an issue and it could well be that theirs is the generation that this could be finally be sorted. Christ if the Tory party can make big strides on this....

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #80 on: November 17, 2010, 01:26:49 PM »
I'm just amazed that anyone should expect this to be a difficulty. When one thinks of all the other spheres of life in which the sexuality of the participants has been accepted as being of no consequence, I can't imagine that Premiership football will prove to be any different.

Offline montague

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #81 on: November 17, 2010, 02:27:23 PM »
Was  it the Royle family - I dont care if they are gay, straight or Australian

Offline Dribbler

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #82 on: November 17, 2010, 03:16:27 PM »
If  players do "come out" would  clubs need separate  changing rooms for gay and non gay players?

I was going to say that perhaps it will change over the next 10 years the way much of racism has been eradicated, but with comments like the above I will say 20 years.

My comment is  not homophobic...3 of my best friends are gay...  and I have discussed this issue with them. No it's about the basics ...think about it why do we have separate changing rooms for males and females?

Are you for real? I've never met you but I bet you're quite young. What a stupid comment to make. Think about it. With comments like that, it's pretty clear you are not gay, so, based on your statement, you fancy every female on the planet. That's your logic. And it's fucking stupid. As you let more out about yourself, I think I could gurantee that a lot of females would find you a bit repulsive, let alone what gay people would think of you. In other words, don't flatter youself to think that all gay people would fancy you, all the women certainly don't.

Sorry but are you for real? The poster makes some pertinent points about the reasons why men and women feel the need to be segregated and how this bears on the topic in question. As he goes on to say:

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No you don't  however since we the human race became "civilised" we have felt the need to separate  ourselves based on sexuality. Males and  Females have to  be separated  in various stages depending on what part  of the world and your religion. The most basic separation applied by everyone  across the world is  changing rooms and toilets. Why is that? Is it privacy and human beings, especially males, are not able to  control themselves and therefore the sight of naked female form will lead them to behave badly. If that is the case than sexuality is the driver.

Maybe if you would care to give a little deeper thought to those issues rather than spitting venomous comments at another poster, your comments would appear a little less stupid and ignorant. I estimate i probably fancy about 5% of the female population, i'm not sure what the figures would be for the other way around, yet there is still male and female segregation. Your point is not only made in a rude manner, it is also a complete non sequitur.

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #83 on: November 17, 2010, 03:25:58 PM »
It really shouldn't matter though should it? If you've been a team mate of secretly gay man, he probably hasn't tried to jump you before while getting changed for a game. Do you think he'd do that if he admitted to his sexuality? Off course he wouldn't. And if you know now your team mate is gay, and you were his mate before, why should it change anything? I've never understood why having that information chnages anything.

Offline luce

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #84 on: November 17, 2010, 03:47:21 PM »
Being heterosexual isn't normal, it's just common.

Offline The Situation

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #85 on: November 17, 2010, 03:49:02 PM »
tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out

Offline Dribbler

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #86 on: November 17, 2010, 03:56:57 PM »
Being heterosexual isn't normal, it's just common.

Sorry to be a pedant, but normal derives from 'norm', which derives from the latin 'norma', which essentially mean common or usual practice, hence 'normal' and 'common' are near synonyms.

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2010, 05:09:58 PM »
tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out

so what if say an ugly woman grabs your ass in bar? Is it any different? I assume you wouldn't find either appealing. Do you honestly think all gay men want to randomly grope other men? Are you really going to brand them all the same because of one isolated incident?

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2010, 05:14:23 PM »
If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out

I'd be flattered, I can't afford to be too fussy anymore.

Offline Blackcountry Villa

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Re: Is the game ready for gays?
« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2010, 05:25:35 PM »
Is the game ready for gays? No.

They would get a barrage of stick at every ground and i'd be joining in, just look at Upson, there were only rumours going round about him and he got dogs abuse every time he came to Villa. You don't get all the straight players coming out saying 'yeah i'm straight, i love women' so if gays don't want to be different why would they come out and say 'yeah i'm gay, i love blokes'.

 


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