Quote from: SoccerHQ on September 19, 2010, 07:57:10 PMSpurs are more of a selling club than we are...they've just signed equally as good replacements to vober that.There in lies the difference, 'Arry wouldn't piss £9m up the wall on McGready, or £9.5m on Curtis Davies.Doh'Neill's bilnkered transfer policy was always a handicap for us and it may have more far reaching consequences than we imagined.
Spurs are more of a selling club than we are...they've just signed equally as good replacements to vober that.
When Man City come calling, virtually EVERYBODY is a selling club.He's an excellent player, but £26m?Spurs are no different to us, they would have sold him too.
He hasn't been replaced at the moment. Certainly not by Ireland if that is who you are indicating for £8mil. But I reckon Joe is pointing out that CL football would not have been an excuse for Milner to leave if he was at Spurs.
True, Carrick was replaced by Modric and Berbatov by Defoe (who he'd initially repalced?!) What happens when Modric goes to Man United next summer mind, I dont know.
Quote from: Ads on September 19, 2010, 07:58:49 PMTrue, Carrick was replaced by Modric and Berbatov by Defoe (who he'd initially repalced?!) What happens when Modric goes to Man United next summer mind, I don’t know. I always think back to the start and summer of 2008 when they sold Berbatov, Keane and Defoe all within 6 months which resulted in the infamous 2 points from 8 games. Oh how things have changed so quickly.#Guess it just shows what can happen if you strike gold with a managerial appointment (plus buy back some of the players you've sold!)
True, Carrick was replaced by Modric and Berbatov by Defoe (who he'd initially repalced?!) What happens when Modric goes to Man United next summer mind, I don’t know.
Arsenal were in the CL when they received offers for Toure and Adebayor they deemed too good to turn down, ditto Barca with the other Toure.Tottenham sold Carrick to Man U just after they missed out on CL in 2006.So whether you're in the CL or no, sometimes you receive offers that make you part with players you weren't particularly looking to offload.That doesn't automatically put you on a par with B-lose, Crewe, Wigan or any other low ranking club that need to sell to exist.
Quote from: KevinGage on September 19, 2010, 04:38:30 PMA selling club traditionally used to be seen as a B-lose or a Norwich or even Crewe, a club that had to sell it's best players at regular intervals to merely survive.In recent times you could probably say of all the top flight clubs Wigan come closest to that category, though with DW's backing they're unlikely to go under. It's just a case of balancing the books.If we suddenly belong in that esteemed company because two of our better players became Billy Big Bollocks and agitated for a move, then so are Man U, Arsenal and any other club that faced similar in recent seasons.I find it hard to justify such claims, particularly with the amounts we spent on transfer fees three summers in a row 2007,2008,2009. Amounts that exceeded many of the clubs who finished above us.More was available again this summer, on the condition that some of the players not featuring were shipped out. MON wasn't willing/able to do this, so the shitstorm in August kicked off.There is no evidence to suggest that he was unwilling to sell them, even Pelty says that he'd agreed to it at the start of the summer and if we were unable I'm not sure what he could have done to make it happen? It seems to me that when he then wanted to push on with signings, as the season was about to start, and was told not until we sell he decided to jack it in.
A selling club traditionally used to be seen as a B-lose or a Norwich or even Crewe, a club that had to sell it's best players at regular intervals to merely survive.In recent times you could probably say of all the top flight clubs Wigan come closest to that category, though with DW's backing they're unlikely to go under. It's just a case of balancing the books.If we suddenly belong in that esteemed company because two of our better players became Billy Big Bollocks and agitated for a move, then so are Man U, Arsenal and any other club that faced similar in recent seasons.I find it hard to justify such claims, particularly with the amounts we spent on transfer fees three summers in a row 2007,2008,2009. Amounts that exceeded many of the clubs who finished above us.More was available again this summer, on the condition that some of the players not featuring were shipped out. MON wasn't willing/able to do this, so the shitstorm in August kicked off.
Chris its pretty obvious now how the summer went, they had the meeting with Milner in May and he and the club agreed that they would sit down after the world cup, then before Jm returned MON made a statement that Milner had indicated at he wanted to leave at the May meeting, this was news to everyone else at the meeting. So either MON was trying to push the Milner sale in the belief that he would get some money to spend or to just be vindictive. It appears that he had agreed to reduce the wage bill and either he couldnt or didnt try.
How many players have we sold in the last four years who we'd like to have kept? Two? How many have Arsenal sold? Or Spurs? Or even Manchester United?