Quote from: "UK Redsox"Quote from: "Chris Smith"They were a nasty side and Revie encouraged it. They could play some great football but it was always after they'd bullied the opposition physically in the first place. Norman Hunter was jus a thug, remember Jackie Charlton and his little black book of who he was going to do, Johnny Giles was a great player but a nasty fucker, Alan Clarke was all little off the ball digs and Bremner was the worst of the lot.They fully earned their reputation, imo.Which is exactly what Villa need in midfield at the momentMaybe, except he'd not last 10 minutes if he tried to play like that these days. Football was a much dirtier game in the 70s so they weren't alone but what made Leeds stand out was that they appeared to be so cynically premeditated about it.
Quote from: "Chris Smith"They were a nasty side and Revie encouraged it. They could play some great football but it was always after they'd bullied the opposition physically in the first place. Norman Hunter was jus a thug, remember Jackie Charlton and his little black book of who he was going to do, Johnny Giles was a great player but a nasty fucker, Alan Clarke was all little off the ball digs and Bremner was the worst of the lot.They fully earned their reputation, imo.Which is exactly what Villa need in midfield at the moment
They were a nasty side and Revie encouraged it. They could play some great football but it was always after they'd bullied the opposition physically in the first place. Norman Hunter was jus a thug, remember Jackie Charlton and his little black book of who he was going to do, Johnny Giles was a great player but a nasty fucker, Alan Clarke was all little off the ball digs and Bremner was the worst of the lot.They fully earned their reputation, imo.
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"Quote from: "richard moore"Nor were Leeds ever quite as dirty as is portrayed though they could dish it out on occasions. They also played some superb football, which is never remembered and particularly since The Damned United surfaced. On their day, Giles, Eddie Gray, Lorimer, Jones, Madeley and Clarke were sublime...True, but as I read it in Peace's book, the "dirty Leeds" tag was something that ate away at Clough, he didn't think they should be able to play like that and still win trophies, so much that he couldn't see past the fouls and the cheating. Therefore I think it was right to portray them as such in the film even if the truth was somewhat different.That was my point really Dave - that in real life whilst no angels, they were not as bad as their portrayal in this film has led people to believe them to be.
Quote from: "richard moore"Nor were Leeds ever quite as dirty as is portrayed though they could dish it out on occasions. They also played some superb football, which is never remembered and particularly since The Damned United surfaced. On their day, Giles, Eddie Gray, Lorimer, Jones, Madeley and Clarke were sublime...True, but as I read it in Peace's book, the "dirty Leeds" tag was something that ate away at Clough, he didn't think they should be able to play like that and still win trophies, so much that he couldn't see past the fouls and the cheating. Therefore I think it was right to portray them as such in the film even if the truth was somewhat different.
Nor were Leeds ever quite as dirty as is portrayed though they could dish it out on occasions. They also played some superb football, which is never remembered and particularly since The Damned United surfaced. On their day, Giles, Eddie Gray, Lorimer, Jones, Madeley and Clarke were sublime...
Quote from: "UK Redsox"Quote from: "Chris Smith"They were a nasty side and Revie encouraged it. They could play some great football but it was always after they'd bullied the opposition physically in the first place. Norman Hunter was jus a thug, remember Jackie Charlton and his little black book of who he was going to do, Johnny Giles was a great player but a nasty fucker, Alan Clarke was all little off the ball digs and Bremner was the worst of the lot.They fully earned their reputation, imo.Which is exactly what Villa need in midfield at the momentI think Fabian Delph could be the answer. Who did we sign him from again?
The second thing people remember them for after being dirty bastards was that they didn’t win anywhere near as much as they could/should have done.
Quote from: "Dave Cooper"Quote from: "richard moore"Nor were Leeds ever quite as dirty as is portrayed though they could dish it out on occasions. They also played some superb football, which is never remembered and particularly since The Damned United surfaced. On their day, Giles, Eddie Gray, Lorimer, Jones, Madeley and Clarke were sublime...True, but as I read it in Peace's book, the "dirty Leeds" tag was something that ate away at Clough, he didn't think they should be able to play like that and still win trophies, so much that he couldn't see past the fouls and the cheating. Therefore I think it was right to portray them as such in the film even if the truth was somewhat different.That was my point really Dave - that in real life whilst no angels, they were not as bad as their portrayal in this film has led people to believe them to be. And of course, Clough never encouraged Gemmill, Burns, Larry Lloyd, Dave McKay or anyone else to play in the same way...
Interesting in the documentary after the film when MON was talking about how Clough played him out of position.MON went to see Clough to ask him could he play in his preferred position, and Clough basically told him, either he played in the position allocated to him or he would find himself on the sub's bench. MON said he never mentioned it again.Draw your own conclusions, but i would say, that probably explains the falling out with NRC.
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