0% Villa. The Damned United.

[Mark H]

Just watched it on the I player - I enjoyed it and as a good sign you wanted it to last longer !

[Lucky Eddie]

Any Ron Saunders fan will confirm, Clough wasn't the best manager in the country - but he was in the top two.

[Ennis]

I didn't enjoy it to be honest.  I think having read "Provided You Don't Kiss Me"* previously I was expecting a bit more from this film but it was just things we already knew.....I thought Sheen was brilliant in it though


*great book by the way, well worth a read

[nodge]

Great film but really bad wigs!

[JUAN PABLO]

Hadn't seen Tony Francis for a while, he hasn't changed at all !

Same cant be said about Trevor ;-D

[KevinGage]

Recounting this from memory so might not be word for word but: One revealing thing about that film was the attitudes that players, fans and even other managers had when it came to rival English clubs competing in Europe.

Bremner's Leeds had just practically kicked Cloughies side off the park and the ginger one turns around and says "Good luck on Wednesday, Brian."

Similarly, if you watch the tail end of the Villa-Bayern match in 1982 Cloughie clearly says "We've done em!"

Different times.

I attribute the shift to Tyldesley and co wittering on about 'That night in Barcelona' at every available opportunity.

[pestria]

Bremner's Leeds had just practically kicked Cloughies side off the park and the ginger one turns around and says "Good luck on Wednesday, Brian."

I think that one was meant to be ironic/sarcastic.

[nechells]

Bremner's Leeds had just practically kicked Cloughies side off the park and the ginger one turns around and says "Good luck on Wednesday, Brian."

I think that one was meant to be ironic/sarcastic.

Correct-It was also said by an actor,not by Billy Bremner.

[nechells]

Liverpool in the 70's and 80's were dirty bastards, same as Man U in the 90's.

I was a bit too young to appreciate Leeds in full during that period but they were certainly able to play football when the need arose.

I think it was par for the course in those days & if we had Sky cameras all over the shop like we do today,I doubt many teams would be able to field 11 players,due to suspensions.

I have to admit,I find the clips of the violence quite amusing-Don't think the prawn sandwich brigade or the Yanks would be taken in by it though.

[KevinGage]

Bremner's Leeds had just practically kicked Cloughies side off the park and the ginger one turns around and says "Good luck on Wednesday, Brian."

I think that one was meant to be ironic/sarcastic.

Correct-It was also said by an actor,not by Billy Bremner.

Yeah, I kinda gathered that.

But it did seem to capture the attitudes of the times, batter a rival into submission on (and quite often off) the pitch in domestic games, cheer them on in European matches.

Villa had widespread support from fans of other British clubs during our run in 1982, as did Forest previously.

[nechells]

People within the game ie players,managers etc will always show support for English/British teams in Europe.

Fans have always been different-some support their rivals in Europe,some do not.The Birmingham City of Britain (Scotland & Wales) for example have never supported England or English teams whereas Scottish & Welsh managers have (at least on the outside) shown support for our teams.

I'm not so sure the average football supporter in 1982 was that bothered if we won in Rotterdam or not TBH.

We are however going off on tangents whilst posting about an excellent film.

[Monty]

Great film, but hardly to be taken as fact. Martin Sheen is also something else with his ability to just become someone else, remarkable stuff.

[eamonn]

Recounting this from memory so might not be word for word but: One revealing thing about that film was the attitudes that players, fans and even other managers had when it came to rival English clubs competing in Europe.

Bremner's Leeds had just practically kicked Cloughies side off the park and the ginger one turns around and says "Good luck on Wednesday, Brian."

Similarly, if you watch the tail end of the Villa-Bayern match in 1982 Cloughie clearly says "We've done em!"

Different times.

His joy may well have been laced with the fact that it was ze Germans who we'd beaten. Or maybe he did have a soft spot for us and was forever waiting to be given the chance to manage the midlands biggest club.