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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on November 23, 2024, 01:54:36 PM
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A few changes.
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Bailey. FFS.
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Good to see Broggio get a reward for his form.
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Palace team. https://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/first-team/oliver-glasner-picks-xi-crystal-palace-aston-villa-team-news/
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Squad getting tested early this season. We've been up against it
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The defence is a concern but on the plus side Emi is looking particularly tanned and handsome.
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Hmm - realistically means at least 2 of Tielemanns, Barkley and McGinn have to 90 mins today. Plus then do the same on Wednesday.
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Bogarde, yikes.
Just bloody win Villa, we really need to improve.
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Broggio wow!
Glad to see maatsen get a start. He showing real faith in bogarde today
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Effectively a back 3 with Bailey and Maatsen as de facto wingbacks.
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Bailey. FFS.
Hardly a surprise and the only alt is the even less impressive Philogene.
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Our middle 3 certainly rate more highly than theirs so it'll be a case of being able to convert our chances and deny them theirs.
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Good team IMO I like the look of it
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Not sure about Bogarde at all. We look a bit lightweight across the pitch in all honesty.
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Bailey. FFS.
Philogene and Buendia have hardly been smashing the door down though, and Duran + Watkins has been a big dud so far. I suppose you could push Maatsen up, but it's hardly ideal.
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Be interesting to see how the wind affects things!
I’m much happier with our midfield!
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Be interesting to see how the wind affects things!
I don't think AHC is going to the match.
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Come on you 🦁🦁🦁s
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Oh dear. That’s a bad start.
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Ffs
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Bollocks!
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0-1 Sarr
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What a fucking pathetic start
How dreadful was our defensive shape there
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What the fuck is going on.
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Well done lads.
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mattsen got caught
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Starting to think we won't be getting Champions League again next year...
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Game plan out the window and one clean sheet in 14.
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ffs were so fucking easy to score against
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We always have to concede before we start playing so we have decided to do it early doors to give ourselves longer! Good tactical thinking!
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Joke of a defence. What the fuck does Emery and the rest of the coaches actually do all week?
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Bloody hell, we don't half make things hard for ourselves.
4 minutes!
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Shocking. Although not really that shocking.
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Leon fucking Bailey mate get fucked
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ffs bailey
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bailey back to his best
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ffs bailey
What happened?
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Taking the ball off Bailey too easily.
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So shit bailey
So so shit
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Get Bailey sold, he is absolutely fucking wank.
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Bailey... Jesus fucking Christ.
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ffs bailey
What happened?
moves keep breaking down with him running into players
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Here we go again.
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The ball bounces off Bailey like a balloon, he can't dribble, pass or manage to stand up
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Our defence is a mismatched unbalanced mess. I wouldn't be sad to see any of them sold
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Bailey had time and space loses the ball so easily. So shit from him
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Rogers shocking finish again
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great shot morgan
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Rogers 🗣
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This team looks like they're all really fragile in terms of confidence. That was abysmal from Rogers then.
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I swear Rogers was better at shooting last season
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Villa need to get this sorted, top 6 is looking very doubtful, at this rate top half the table will be a challenge.
We simple can't lose this, Liverpool next.
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Joke of a defence. What the fuck does Emery and the rest of the coaches actually do all week?
You can only work with what you have. Torres is too lightweight, Carlos isn't good enough 75% of the time. In Cash, Konsa, Mings and Digne we have a proven Premier League defence that doesn't concede many goals. Let's do that when they're all fit.
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Bogarde with a goid pass why isnt bailey going after that
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Emery has got a proper job on to get them back to form
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Villa need to get this sorted, top 6 is looking very doubtful, at this rate top half the table will be a challenge.
We simple can't lose this, Liverpool next.
So soon?
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Baileys body language is fucking awful...he's doing a Rashford. Hundreds of thousands of pounds a month and that's your demeanour.
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One clean sheet in nearly a third of a season is dire, absolutely pathetic. Martinez is supposed to be the world's best keeper, Emery said Torres is the best defender he's ever worked with, and Maatsen cost a fortune. Not good enough.
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got toscore that ollie
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Villa need to get this sorted, top 6 is looking very doubtful, at this rate top half the table will be a challenge.
We simple can't lose this, Liverpool next.
What dimension are you in.
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Is that not worth a look by VAR on Carlos?
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Got to score
No communication with carlos
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From the pre match.....
Had a dream last night we were losing 7-0 when I checked the score, so..... be prepared.
Was it early in the game? Did we still have a chance to turn it around?
It was 1-0 very early and I got so annoyed I stopped watching. At some point later on in the dream my brother was checking his accumulator and got really annoyed at the 7-0 scoreline, so I assume it was final result.
Oops
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I swear Rogers was better at shooting last season
his shooting has mostly been shit.
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Playing against a team needing to break a poor run - what could possibly go wrong eh? Come on Villa get a grip and turn this around!
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I’m delighted to see that all that talk about Emery working hard on defending and stopping conceding goals has worked really well.
I get this horrible feeling that he needs to work harder on the attackers though. I thought we’d come back from the international break and not be so dreadful… clearly not
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We are far too easy to get at
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Fuck me we should be 2 down another pathetic error
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I swear Rogers was better at shooting last season
his shooting has mostly been shit.
At the preseason game against Bilbao he hit about 3 out of the ground in the warm up.
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Why the black armbands ?
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More terrible defending. What the fuck is going on?
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Birmingham pub bombings commemoration.
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Why the black armbands ?
RIP Leon Bailey
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I’m delighted to see that all that talk about Emery working hard on defending and stopping conceding goals has worked really well.
I get this horrible feeling that he needs to work harder on the attackers though. I thought we’d come back from the international break and not be so dreadful… clearly not
Being able to pass and shoot is on the fucking players.
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Bailey just completely gave up on that ball.
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Bailey just completely gave up on that ball.
He has been awful yet again. How long can we persist with these performances?
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Carlos playing in his clown shoes today.
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Bailey just completely gave up on that ball.
He has been awful yet again. How long can we persist with these performances?
Play who though? Jaden doesn't look up to the level and we sold Diaby.
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Bailey doesn't look up to this level.
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The right wing's fucked and barring Ramsey there's nothing on the left. 352.
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I swear Rogers was better at shooting last season
his shooting has mostly been shit.
True.
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Bailey just completely gave up on that ball.
He has been awful yet again. How long can we persist with these performances?
Play who though? Jaden doesn't look up to the level and we sold Diaby.
I would given jaden a start. He hasnt had many starts to be fair even though he hasnt be good most of his appearances have been as a sub
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Philogene hasn’t done anything to deserve a start though.
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Bailey doesn't look up to this level.
He’s going through a bad spell and looks like he doesn’t own his own legs at the moment but we know he can be a world beater so let’s give a cheer and hope his luck changes
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Bailey doesn't look up to this level.
He’s going through a bad spell and looks like he doesn’t own his own legs at the moment but we know he can be a world beater so let’s give a cheer and hope his luck changes
Amen
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Philogene hasn’t done anything to deserve a start though.
Either has bailey though mate. Baileys had alot more starts though so what else do we have to lose
Thats better. Good effort ollie
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bailey with a good pass
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Bailey doesn't look up to this level.
He’s going through a bad spell and looks like he doesn’t own his own legs at the moment but we know he can be a world beater so let’s give a cheer and hope his luck changes
Bailey is a confidence player. When it is there he can be brilliant. When it is not, he can be awful.
He’s looked devoid of it this season.
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How crap are palace
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Philogene can start at right wing back when Cash isn't fit. Sorts the right back problem, as well as the issues on the wing.
352.352.352.352.
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Some suicidal passing on the edge of our box yet again
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How crap are palace
Luckily you are injured for them.
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How crap are palace
Less crap than us so far today
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This is really bad. The defence is all over the shop and the midfield isn't creating anything or protecting the back 4. Meaningless possession before giving it away cheaply.
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We look so open at the back, which would be worrying enough if we were carving out chance after chance at the other end. But we're not even doing that.
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How crap are palace
you play for them tho
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Crap enough to be 1-0 up at Villa
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Philogene hasn’t done anything to deserve a start though.
But nor have half of today's starters.
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How are they not 2-0 up even if offside.
Jesus we are playing so badly yet again
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Palace packing out the middle with 5 players all the time to stop us playing through. We have to play it wide today!
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We look so open at the back, which would be worrying enough if we were carving out chance after chance at the other end. But we're not even doing that.
If no ones worried based on the opening 33 minutes i dont know what would worry them. We are playing very very badly not just today but a majority of the season
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rogers is awful
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YES!!!!!!
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Here we go, get in
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Watkins scorchio?
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1-1 Ollie
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Everybody calm tf down.
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Thank fook for that
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Ollieeeeeee yes!!!!
Thank fuck for that !!!
Get in !!!
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Thank the lord for ollie watkins
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That’s more like it. Good to see Ollie grab one.
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Yesss finally!
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great ball SJM
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Terrible mistake by Vince Hilaire.
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Well done lads.
Well done lads.
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Var
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great ball SJM
and Pau
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Come on!
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Bang bang bang, quick incisive passes and great finish.
That's how you do it Villa, more of this please.
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1860346904938258558
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Anyone with a trickle they can share please?
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That was a bloody world class pass to ollie. Brilliant
Best bit of play for us
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Terrible mistake by Vince Hilaire.
Great reference. He was a poor top trumps card as I recollect.
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Get in! Great balls from Pau and McGinn
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Come on leon stop losing the ball
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Bailey can't stay on the pitch surely, diabolical
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Close
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Bailey hits the bar!
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Get in! Great balls from Pau and McGinn
Wet shorts do show them off.
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Well struck Leon
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Whilst not good for his confidence , Bailey has to be replaced at half time.
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Fucking great effort leon!!
Thats the leon we know
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God I wish that flew in the top corner for him.
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Brilliant Bailey top top player.
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goos strike leon , more please
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Whilst not good for his confidence , Bailey has to be replaced at half time.
Signs he is growing into the game. Might be better to keep him on
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Superb spot and pass by Torres to McGinn for our goal.
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Whilst not good for his confidence , Bailey has to be replaced at half time.
Of course he hits the bar as soon as I said that 😂
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In the build up to our goal, I was not impressed with Tielemans falling down under no pressure by someone who wanted the ball more.
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Good play by bogarde there
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Cmon VAR
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In the build up to our goal, I was not impressed with Tielemans falling down under no pressure by someone who wanted the ball more.
And was it Rogers who overran the ball?
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Penalty for us.
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Pen anybody
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Thats a pen
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Is there a pen? I fancy one.
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Gone to the screen.
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Yep given.
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Yes
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Hughes trod on baileys ankle.
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In the build up to our goal, I was not impressed with Tielemans falling down under no pressure by someone who wanted the ball more.
And was it Rogers who overran the ball?
Yep, initially did well, then took the ball off Tielemans and lost it.
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Tielemans to take?
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A bit controversial that one.
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Is that our first in the league this season, I think we had about 3-4 by this time last season.
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Saved. Ffs.
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A bit controversial that one.
How, it's a clear penalty.
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Saved from Youri.
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Whilst not good for his confidence , Bailey has to be replaced at half time.
Signs he is growing into the game. Might be better to keep him on
And then after hitting the bar , of course he wins the pen 😂
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Crazy
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Sorry but these rubbish performance are totally on Emery. Keeps picking players out of form
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And we miss the penalty! Bollocks
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Sorry but these rubbish performance are totally on Emery. Keeps picking players out of form
who are the form ones?
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he is a crap pen taker
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Who else do you want him to pick? He’s made changes today.
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I don't believe this
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He's missed 4 out of 6.
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Missed three of his last five before that one. Why was he taking it?
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What a shit pen
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Fuck. Saw that coming
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Oh ffs 1-2
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FFS.
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Oh for fucks sake! 2-1 Palace!!
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Unreal.
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Down the other end and they score.
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Missed 4 of his last 6 now, fucking shit
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From bad to worse.
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typical
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This is very bad very very bad.
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May as well put Ollie back on pens
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I don't believe this
Fuck this shit
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That is worse than national league defending
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We’re so Villa.
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Oh FFS
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Fuck me
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Jesus fucking Christ. Villa you idiots
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Rank amateur shite.
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Why did Ross stop tracking
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FFS letting in 2 goals against crystal palace is fucking unreal
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My god this teams shite
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Garbage
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Unbelievable.
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Well done lads.
Well done lads.
Well done lads.
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I'm sorry, but that entire sequence is fucking pathetic.
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
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How are we so open from corners? How haven't we learned? Fucking utter cretins. Has to be on emery
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Have we thought about defending at some point? Embarrassing amateur stuff
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
Why didn’t you post after we scored?
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You just know we're getting nothing from this today.
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I'm sorry, but that entire sequence is fucking pathetic.
It is.
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Peak Villa
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This is a palace team with loads of injuries as well
This is totally unacceptable
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
Why didn’t you post after we scored?
My 3 year old had locked himself in the toilet.
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We just can’t defend. That’s a significant problem.
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May as well put Ollie back on pens
agree
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When Emery first arrived, he made us as tight as a gnat's chuff. Why can't we go back to playing like that?
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we are shit against fast breaks
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
Why didn’t you post after we scored?
My 3 year old had locked himself in the toilet.
Tell him we’ll get better second half, no need to do that.
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Tilemans has now miss.ed 4 of his last 6 penalties. You have to wonder why he is taking them.
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Being so shit defensively for so long is unacceptable.
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If this was Gerrard he would’ve been getting pelters for this. Next week is going to be a disaster.
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Tactically outthought there
They have a back line of 5 and then 5 in central midfield and we are struggling to play through them
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Wish we had someone that could take penalties
Oh thats right we sold him 😨😰
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
I get that emotions run high during a match thread and you aren't the most patient of Villa fans Risso but did you seriously just suggest the manager should be binned?
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If there's one minute that sums up our fucking season...
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Team of absolute useless twats. Fuck off. Didn't Dean Smith get the sack after five defeats? Gerrard after an appalling performance like this?
Why didn’t you post after we scored?
My 3 year old had locked himself in the toilet.
Tell him we’ll get better second half, no need to do that.
I'm going to swap places with him.
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Apparently Unai has been spending even longer than usual watching videos this week in preparation.
Videos of what, they didn’t say.
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Crikey. I hope our playing this badly isn’t ‘more or less’ part of the plan again.
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Sarr totally ripped us to shreds on the break twice.
I actually don't think we've been that bad but we're at the stage of the season where we're not scoring when we have momentum and then we give a stupid goal away. Score the penalty and it's a decent enough half.
Rogers constantly giving the ball away and Bailey being hit and miss with his end product is one of the reasons we're not close to last season's levels currently.
I still think we'll win this but obviously need a early second half goal, could be a bit like the Wolves match.
Just me who thought Henderson looked way off his line when making the save, interested to see a replay if he was on the goal line when it was struck.
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Apparently Unai has been spending even longer than usual watching videos this week in preparation.
Videos of what, they didn’t say.
Snuff films
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What a horrible cxnt that Will Hughes is, raking his studs down a fellow professional's Achilles' heel.
He deserves to have studs raked across his face.
Would be an improvement.
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Teams are more likely to score from our set plays than us.
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If this was Gerrard he would’ve been getting pelters for this. Next week is going to be a disaster.
Yes because he was demonstrably shite. Emery has been the polar opposite for two chuffing years. It has been a shite month and it is disappointing to see us repeat the same mistakes over and over. But this sort of nonsense is laughable.
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Problems all over the pitch, nobody on form, totally naive defensively. This is starting to make me worry
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
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Awful performance - so easy to score against. every time they break they look like scoring - no pace in the midfield or defensive.
This is a really shit team were playing - we huffed and puffed and got in it. Its just not working whatever were trying to do this season. Our build up play is shit and leaves less potent going forward, and awful at the back.
Our defense is just unacceptable.
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Apparently Unai has been spending even longer than usual watching videos this week in preparation.
Videos of what, they didn’t say.
I wonder if like the rest of you lot on here he’s addicted to some reality shit like MAFS or and he’s not been studying Palace.
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
Blimey.
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We are so shakey when teams hit us on the break. That said we’ve missed a penalty and hit the bar. And they’ve been very very lucky a few times.
We will win this 4-2.
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Any chance we can just kick our corners into touch?
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Same old...
Too many very poor performances, including the manager.
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Utter pig ignorance from Emery that he's done nothing to sort out our shambles of a defence in almost 12 months.
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I thought the first team was weaker and the squad overall was stronger. It's now clear the first team is far weaker without Diaby and Luiz (and an ineffective Bailey), and the squad isn't any stronger. We've lost 20+ goals and not made up for it just loosing those 2. We can't control or dictate play like we did last season.
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Crikey. I hope our playing this badly isn’t ‘more or less’ part of the plan again.
We have played pretty well in general but been done on the break twice. That's shite and shouldn't happen but if we score the penalty, we take a deserved lead into half time and those are the 'fine margins' managers talk about.
I would have nominated Youri as our new penalty taker too but had no idea his record is so poor. Hard to see who else would take them if Duran isn't on the pitch.
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Not advocating the tin tack or anything remotely close to it.
But defending is a key part of the game and we've been mostly bollocks at it over an extended period of time now. Way back to March by my reckoning.
Two decent balls down our left and we're torn to shreds. Dreadful stuff.
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
Good bantz.
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This is just unacceptable- another week where we concede at least 2. Are you actually going to do anything about it Unai?
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We’ve been sussed out, been the same for a while now. Lose this and don’t get anything out of the next 2 or 3, the owners will absolutely fire Unai and it’ll be a sad day.
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
I wouldnt go that far just yet mate. We are in a rut but its clear to me the summer recruitment has been dog shit. I raised this in summer when i said we hadnt strengthened the first team at all esp after loaning enzo and illing jr that gives us more squad depth.
I really do not understand how they thought selling diaby and luiz and not replacing them, and not addressing right back that we would do better or at least match last season.
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Sarr totally ripped us to shreds on the break twice.
I actually don't think we've been that bad but we're at the stage of the season where we're not scoring when we have momentum and then we give a stupid goal away. Score the penalty and it's a decent enough half.
Rogers constantly giving the ball away and Bailey being hit and miss with his end product is one of the reasons we're not close to last season's levels currently.
I still think we'll win this but obviously need a early second half goal, could be a bit like the Wolves match.
Just me who thought Henderson looked way off his line when making the save, interested to see a replay if he was on the goal line when it was struck.
He looked well off his line on the replay.
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Palace must absolutely love playing us. Last three occasions has been a gimme.
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Sarr totally ripped us to shreds on the break twice.
But isn't that exactly what has been happening consistently recently? We are carrying on playing the same way and teams have sussed us out.
Our goals against is looking grim. We can still win this but why do we have to make it so difficult.
As it happens this is exactly what I thought would happen but didn't say so earlier because there would be a pile on about being negative.
I want our team to carry on being successful but it's not just bad luck we keep getting into these situations. As well as staying positive and creative there are times to be more careful surely?
Anyway UTV and here's to a better second half.
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We’ve been sussed out, been the same for a while now. Lose this and don’t get anything out of the next 2 or 3, the owners will absolutely fire Unai and it’ll be a sad day.
;D
This forum, man.
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Our defending as a team has been wank since January, it’s not good enough.
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Utter pig ignorance from Emery that he's done nothing to sort out our shambles of a defence in almost 12 months.
That's an odd expression.
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Problem is midfield, the problem is always midfield. This system is just too open unless the central two are very careful, very cautious, and very disciplined. As it is, there's just a big fucking hole.
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On reflection - I dont think it was a pen :-)
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Frustration, but really crap, midfield rubbish.
I hold back from criticizing Bailey , but fuck he gives the ball away
Defence caught out twice for goals from Sarr and could have had another
They must love playing us
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Problem is its difficult to see what Emery can do at this point
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We’ve been sussed out, been the same for a while now. Lose this and don’t get anything out of the next 2 or 3, the owners will absolutely fire Unai and it’ll be a sad day.
;D
This forum, man.
Don't agree about the sacking nonsense but he is absolutely spot on about being sussed out.
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We’ve been sussed out, been the same for a while now. Lose this and don’t get anything out of the next 2 or 3, the owners will absolutely fire Unai and it’ll be a sad day.
;D
This forum, man.
? I’m not advocating for it. It’s just how football is these days.
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We are so shakey when teams hit us on the break. That said we’ve missed a penalty and hit the bar. And they’ve been very very lucky a few times.
We will win this 4-2.
Yeah I still think we'll create chances. Some of our set plays have been decent and it's just last ditch clearances.
We just have too many forwards out of form. Bailey can hit the bar one minute and then just cut inside and lose the ball the next attack and Rogers is losing the ball so often so if those two are off the boil it's a struggle to get the ball early to Ollie like the goal. We also know the alternatives on the bench aren't great but perhaps we need to get Philogene on early as he will get plenty of the ball with the current situaiton.
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I thought the first team was weaker and the squad overall was stronger. It's now clear the first team is far weaker without Diaby and Luiz (and an ineffective Bailey), and the squad isn't any stronger. We've lost 20+ goals and not made up for it just loosing those 2. We can't control or dictate play like we did last season.
Indeed.
2023 Luiz walks back into this team. 2024 version: not so much.
As well as Bailey being off it (but much better today) Philogene gives us nowhere near what Diaby or even Zaniolo could give us off the bench.
Maybe we should've taken the points deduction if it mean we didn't have to weaken the squad who got us 4th last year. And weaken it we have.
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Get Mings on.
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
Good bantz.
Thanks Paul 8)
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And they’ve worked that out. Five front players defend closely together in the centre and we haven’t worked out we have to attach wide! They’ve snuffed out Tielemans!
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Qhy dont we just try pau and mings man. It can't be worse than the shit we have seen the last few games
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Get Mings on.
Yep. Get the best defender at the club in to the defence. I don't care who for or how
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
I wouldnt go that far just yet mate. We are in a rut but its clear to me the summer recruitment has been dog shit. I raised this in summer when i said we hadnt strengthened the first team at all esp after loaning enzo and illing jr that gives us more squad depth.
I really do not understand how they thought selling diaby and luiz and not replacing them, and not addressing right back that we would do better or at least match last season.
You’ve been told time and time again - we were not allowed to spend much due PSR rules and FFP UEFA rules.
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Problem is midfield, the problem is always midfield. This system is just too open unless the central two are very careful, very cautious, and very disciplined. As it is, there's just a big fucking hole.
Correct. Tielemans and Barkley have been unimpressive and the break for their first goal started with Barkley failing to keep possession.
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Problem is midfield, the problem is always midfield. This system is just too open unless the central two are very careful, very cautious, and very disciplined. As it is, there's just a big fucking hole.
Kamara is just huge for how we play. Frustrating we've got him back only to lose him to injury again. Onana has also done alright off the ball in the recent games.
Tielemans and Barkley are more types who want to get in opposition half and probe, I would've personally played SJM centrally today and we might do that if we bring Philogene on.
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Has to be at least two subs at half time
Get cash and buendia on
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Problem is midfield, the problem is always midfield. This system is just too open unless the central two are very careful, very cautious, and very disciplined. As it is, there's just a big fucking hole.
Exactly - and with little recovery pace this happens.
Barkley and Teilemens are both better a bit further forward, or at least need someone alongside them. Dougie was great as he didnt give the ball away, Onanas good as he has so much strength and ability to rescue situation - and Kamara's reading of the game and ability to keep the ball means it works.
This just isnt working - combined with Bailey and Jayden, and to a lesser extent Rogers not being anywhere near the best we're in a bad place without the players to come on to change it.
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My prediction. Emery will leave just before the last 16 of the Champions League. His assistant will take over. Emery will go to the Blues within a couple of weeks of leaving.
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Has to be at least two subs at half time
Get cash and buendia on
This place would turn into even more of a complain fest.
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McGinn is a shadow of his former self.
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Has to be at least two subs at half time
Get cash and buendia on
Cash on
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Has to be at least two subs at half time
Get cash and buendia on
Cash will be on for sure soon. Bogarde is just a CB playing at RB so being behind he won't offer much.
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Yank McGinn. Tielemans further forward with Kamara and Barkley in midfield.
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Cash on.
God help us.
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Yank McGinn. Tielemans further forward with Kamara and Barkley in midfield.
Kamara?
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Tilemans has now miss.ed 4 of his last 6 penalties. You have to wonder why he is taking them.
soon as I saw the TV screen with the youri red missed balls and he didnt look confindent , you knew
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Harsh on Bogarde. One of our better players today for all that is worth. Understand why though.
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Cash is on you can take that to the bank.
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Serious questions need to be asked of Unai now. If we lose this they need to seriously consider if he's the man for us. Not really.
I wouldnt go that far just yet mate. We are in a rut but its clear to me the summer recruitment has been dog shit. I raised this in summer when i said we hadnt strengthened the first team at all esp after loaning enzo and illing jr that gives us more squad depth.
I really do not understand how they thought selling diaby and luiz and not replacing them, and not addressing right back that we would do better or at least match last season.
You’ve been told time and time again - we were not allowed to spend much due PSR rules and FFP UEFA rules.
Stu, with respect did you read my post? Even with PSR we still could have bought in better players than the ones coming in. We downgraded with the players who replaced these players.
We spent 50m on onana 30m on maatsen thats 80m on two of those players.
Did we need maatsen ? That 30m could have been apent on a right back or a diaby replacement. That has nothing to do with FFP
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Palace are a big physical team and we're not up for the fight. Chalobah is a player I'd hoped we'd have gone for in the summer, great bit of business by Palace getting him in on loan.
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If only it was £30m on Maatsen. It was £37m.
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Nearly, C'mon Villa
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Well done Leon
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Yank McGinn. Tielemans further forward with Kamara and Barkley in midfield.
Kamara?
Forgot he was injured
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If this was Gerrard he would’ve been getting pelters for this. Next week is going to be a disaster.
Gerrard was demonstrably a shite manager and deserved those pelters. Unai Emery is demonstrably a top class manager trying to rebuild a squad (he has overachieving) whilst being hamstrung by FFP.
It's frustrating but in the midst of this dip in form let's not become Arsenal fans. Look at the bigger picture and keep the faith.
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That was poor maats
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Good start
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That was more like the Bailey of last season
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watkins hit it quicker
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Are we towards the Holte End?
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Started well.
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Ollie ffs shoit it!
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We won’t win this one, we’re both rubbish defensively and pretty flaky going forward.
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We won’t win this one, we’re both rubbish defensively and pretty flaky going forward.
UTV?
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just get the ball in the box
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Did anyone just seehow cheaply we gave ball away again?
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C'mon Villa, early goal now and it will turn the game around
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What I've noticed is last season we had three or four players bursting into the box when we break.This season barely one.
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Cash just threw it to the palace player😂
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What I've noticed is last season we had three or four players bursting into the box when we break.This season barely one.
I think you could make a reasonable case that pretty much nothing is working as it should at the moment.
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What I've noticed is last season we had three or four players bursting into the box when we break.This season barely one.
I think you could make a reasonable case that pretty much nothing is working as it should at the moment.
We are definitely in a sticky patch. Things are not working for us and it’s particularly tough seeing the same mistakes over and over again.
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The bench looks decidedly shit.
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What I've noticed is last season we had three or four players bursting into the box when we break.This season barely one.
Diaby was a large part of that with his pace. Now we look so slow as a team
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What I've noticed is last season we had three or four players bursting into the box when we break.This season barely one.
I think you could make a reasonable case that pretty much nothing is working as it should at the moment.
We are definitely in a sticky patch. Things are not working for us and it’s particularly tough seeing the same mistakes over and over again.
And that’s just it - at the start of the season the sloppiness at the back and profligacy in front of goal potentially could have been explained by early season rustiness. It now just looks like the norm.
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dont they want to shoot no more
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This is shite
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This’ll end up 1-3 I reckon.
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How have we gone so shit in the space of 6 months? Its unbelievable
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dont they want to shoot no more
Greasy pitch and all.Should be doing more.
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It's been nearly 12 whole months of not being able to organise a defence, this isn't a new phenomenon. We've been conceding 1.5-2 goals on average for ages now. Successful managers who win stuff build their sides on a good defence. 1 clean sheet all season, and generally looking like a rabble at the back.
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rogers having a right stinker
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Rogers has been fucking terrible today
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Anyone got a decent river, saw hardly any of the second half so far (which may be a good thing!)
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I just don’t get everyone else’s problem. We’ve massively diversified our hospitality offering, put a riverboat outside the players entrance and built a brick lion in the shop. You all just want the moon on a stick.
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How many times do we want to give the ball away by trying to do something fancy?
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And I thought Bournemouth was frustrating. Silly me.
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Never a good indicator when Unai takes a seat
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He’s never lost four in a row in 1026 matches as a coach. Welcome to Aston Villa Unai.
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Any subs yet?
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This could be tricky
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Could be a red card here.
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We looked ok for 10 minutes and now looked fucking shite again
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He’s never lost four in a row in 1026 matches as a coach. Welcome to Aston Villa Unai.
We're not allowed nice things. It'll be six after Chelsea next week.
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Theres a covering player
Right decision
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Well we definitely didn't watch any videos on Sarr in the week
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Duran on
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It’s quiet when I went past VP is it as shit as the score line?
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If this was Gerrard he would’ve been getting pelters for this. Next week is going to be a disaster.
Gerrard was demonstrably a shite manager and deserved those pelters. Unai Emery is demonstrably a top class manager trying to rebuild a squad (he has overachieving) whilst being hamstrung by FFP.
It's frustrating but in the midst of this dip in form let's not become Arsenal fans. Look at the bigger picture and keep the faith.
The arsenal bit 👏
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20 mins to win this
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Is it the same Sarr we almost signed but Gerrard turned down?
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Just for context sarr was signed for 12.5m
And yes enigma it is. He has more goals than bailey and jyden combined
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Getting closer to the time where I'd take a point, which would be a crap result.
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Coming from behind late on to beat Palace at home was a bit of a moment in the course of last season...
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I’ve not been enjoying these last few weeks. At all.
Anybody got any good thoughts on how to clear an air lock out of a toilet waste line?
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
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messed that up
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
What ails you child?
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How did we fuck that break up? We were 3 on 1
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How did they miss. Fucking clowns
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Made a right mess of that
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
Wind your neck down youself you geek
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How did we fuck that break up? We were 3 on 1
Watkins indecision yet again
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
Wind your neck down youself you geek
You don't have to type out every silly little thought in your head you know
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That's the kind of chance Palace have scored two from today.
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
Wind your neck down youself you geek
You do need to think before you post sometimes my friend. This is Unai's team and therefore, his mess. He needs to sort it.
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FFS Villa score
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
Wind your neck down youself you geek
You don't have to type out every silly little thought in your head you know
Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
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At least we have found out who our penalty taker is/was!
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Send him off
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FFS Villa score
It’s taken me those minutes to realise that this was a plea, and not a way of breaking up the tension in this thread!
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‘We’ll score we’ll score and once we get on we’ll get more, we’ll sing you a medley when we get to Wembley score Villa score.’
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At least we have found out who our penalty taker is/was!
Well, we know it won't be Tielemans in the future
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
This is his mess, he seemingly can't organise a defence.
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2-2
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YEEEEESSSSSS
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Schorchio?
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There it is!!!!
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Get in there Ross!
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I wouldnt blame unai if he wanted to quit end of season. He is far better than this shit
Wind your neck in your dope
Wind your neck down youself you geek
You don't have to type out every silly little thought in your head you know
Ignore him he’s a wind up idiot
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At least we have found out who our penalty taker is/was!
Well, we know it won't be Tielemans in the future
It’ll be Luiz again from January.
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That chalobah looks good. Wonder why we didnt look at him on loan
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2-2, the doomers on here will be livid!
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good one ross
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Relief.
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Get in, now fucking win it!
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Well done lads.
Well done lads.
Well done lads.
Well done lads.
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Yesssss thank fuck for that
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Now let’s not go and concede another at once - and go on and win the game. Please!
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Goal!!! Ross Barkley
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Get in Ross! Thank fuck for that.
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The 12 man kicks in, here we go, Palace are about to get hammered
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missed the first man for a change
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Right, now fucking concentrate this time you bastards! Let's go on and win it!
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2-2, the doomers on here will be livid!
When you last spoke palace then went on to score so hold your horses dear 😄
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Concentrate Villa.
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And then we nearly let them get a third.
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
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2-2, the doomers on here will be livid!
When you last spoke palace then went on to score so hold your horses dear 😄
Maybe you’ll get your wish and they’ll nab another!
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So is Emery still going to quit then, or…? Trying to keep up!
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Now let’s not go and concede another at once - and go on and win the game. Please!
Aaaand they should have just scored. We are such a weird team at the moment
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What are we doing??
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‘We’ll score we’ll score and once we get on we’ll get more, we’ll sing you a medley when we get to Wembley score Villa score.’
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https://x.com/tekkersfoot/status/1860362411661799935
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Oh yes just win it now!
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come on luca wheres the french performance
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All them again.
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Jesus h christ ,I nearly had a coronary
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unreal - they should have had 2 since we scored FFS
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emi brilliant
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Why do we do this to ourselves?
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Jesus fuck. They could have had five. We defend like an under 11 side.
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What a save
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Great save Martinez
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They look like scoring with every attack.
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Jesus fuck. They could have had five. We defend like an under 11 side.
Don't rubbish U11 sides.
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Carlos and Torres can't defend to save their lives. Abysmal.
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
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benduia and jaden on
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Rogers has had a stinker
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
You’re embarrassing yourself mate, take a time out.
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In the hope it has the same effect as when I said get Bailey off, and he hit the post and won the penalty,.......Get Ollie off !!
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
Leipzig
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund it.
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
You are the stupidest person in England.
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund it.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round.
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I’ve not heard much about Duran recently…
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund it.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round of mocktails.
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund it.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round of cocktails.
Yes. That was the joke.
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I know I’m just expanding the round. And cocked it up!
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4+injury to get the winner, hard work this
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Carlos is thick as two short planks
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You’re embarrassing yourself mate, take a time out.
As I have picked him up on errors in the past, he has decided to childishly decide my criticisms of his posts are now errors on fact. Last season when he was as bad as this, I was giving him some leeway that he was a teenager. Since then he has revealed he is mid 40's.......
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Should’ve signed that Geertruida didn’t he sign for Juve?
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund it.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round.
We couldn’t sell Carlos to fund a round of mocktails.
We couldn't sell Carlos to fund a round of golf
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Any win today however it comes would be absolutely massive. We just need to have that feeling again. It’s like fucking cocaine. We just want to keep snorting it. I feel like I’m in withdrawal right now.
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Arsenal 3 Forest 0
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
You’re embarrassing yourself mate, take a time out.
If you support lame attempts at sarcasm in which i replied to then you are embarrassing yourself not me.
Im just replying in the fashion of how he does. He thinks he is funny but his attempt to attenp to troll is lame and not funny.
You also embarassed yourself for auggesting i wanted palace to score
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
Ela malaka...give it a rest for today mate. We have just come back twice from being behind!
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It’s so weird that the team started to play with such low intensity from the start of October. Ipswich should have put four past us, same today against Palace. What the fuck is going on?
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
You’re embarrassing yourself mate, take a time out.
If you support lame attempts at sarcasm in which i replied to then you are embarrassing yourself not me.
Im just replying in the fashion of how he does. He thinks he is funny but his attempt to attenp to troll is lame and not funny.
You also embarassed yourself for auggesting i wanted palace to score
Just trying to help.. I’ve got secondhand embarrassment for you.
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I assume it’s because of so many matches he wanted to conserve energy.
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You’re embarrassing yourself mate, take a time out.
As I have picked him up on errors in the past, he has decided to childishly decide my criticisms of his posts are now errors on fact. Last season when he was as bad as this, I was giving him some leeway that he was a teenager. Since then he has revealed he is mid 40's.......
Dont cry somni. just responding how you do to myself and others. Ypu dont like ot when it does back to you. So i guess we are both childish then
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This thread is almost as shit as we've been.
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It’s so weird that the team started to play with such low intensity from the start of October. Ipswich should have put four past us, same today against Palace. What the fuck is going on?
Christ knows. The football is dire, we can't defend and Unai has done fuck all about it. Also looking like the summer transfer window was a right cock up, to be honest.
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cant even pass now
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I assume it’s because of so many matches he wanted to conserve energy.
The only logical assumption I suppose. With that said I’d suggest the plan is not working out.
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Either do you.
You think unai is going to stick around to a midtable club? He will be off once a good offer comes in and i wouldnt blame him.
But but, if he is that good why is he potentially managing us into Midtable. (not that I don't think this won't be turned around, however we need some changes in January.
Because we didint finish midtable last season did we ? Did you sleep through the whole season?
Just a reminder to you we finished 4th which isnt midtable
Thats twice today you have made errors today. Oh dear.
Ela malaka...give it a rest for today mate. We have just come back twice from being behind!
We are all a bunch of malakas re koumbare 😘
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Honestly, I agree. As much as I love a match thread for therapy during the emotional rollercoaster of a game - today it’s been arguments interdispersed with “Get ins” and “FFS”
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We don't exactly look in a hurry do we. Subs have made us more disjointed
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It's all gone a bit 'teenage girls' in here.. and not in a good way
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I’m resigning from starting them then.
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Arsenal 3 Forest 0
What’s that got to do with it?!? I’m watching our match alongside my Arse supporting mate and I don’t need a fuxking reminder!
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The last few pages of this thread have been so poor.
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I’m resigning from starting them then.
It’s for the best. All you get is scarred from being in part is playing like shit and the subsequent fallout.
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It’s so weird that the team started to play with such low intensity from the start of October. Ipswich should have put four past us, same today against Palace. What the fuck is going on?
Christ knows. The football is dire, we can't defend and Unai has done fuck all about it. Also looking like the summer transfer window was a right cock up, to be honest.
The defence is dreadful, has been for ages. Feel like the team needs a hard reset, back to basics and start building the defence again.
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I assume it’s because of so many matches he wanted to conserve energy.
The only logical assumption I suppose. With that said I’d suggest the plan is not working out.
Yes. Other teams towards the top usually coast the early season and that is where they drop points, they then pick up as the rest of the league tires. But we have taken it too far the other way.
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Will hughes dirty player
How did he escape yellows?
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We could do with a better replacement for the godawful Bailey than the miles off this level Philogene. There can't be a right hand side in worse form in the Premier League.
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Mateta's bullied the crap out of Carlos today.
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A draw doesn't really stop the rot does it.
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is it all over yet?
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We could do with a better replacement for the godawful Bailey than the miles off this level Philogene. There can't be a right hand side in worse form in the Premier League.
Still not the best, but didn't he have some good play today compared to previous matches.
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Three minutes left of six.
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A draw doesn't really stop the rot does it.
Stops the losses at least. (If we can hold on).
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I’ll settle for the draw now. They’re still dangerous.
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Youris has a bad game as well today
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Fucking late winner for Brighton
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Watch us batter Juventus now
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Fucking late winner for Brighton
They scored their 2nd in the 49th minute.
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Honestly, I’ll take the draw. It’s not a defeat.
I don’t know what we do about things moving forwards, but that is for Unai to suss out.
This season has, thus far, been the enjoyment equivalent of having a camera put into your bladder.
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Short of us scoring the winner this is a point a didn't think we would get.
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youri poor today
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Full time.
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A point is better than a poke in the eye, as they say
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A point at home against a injury savaged palace who didnt have thwir best player is still not a good result
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Wolves did us a favour against Fulham.
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Being owned by relegation fodder palace is not screaming a great weekend. Points lost and we need to be sorting this shit out quick sharp. Not a crisis more a reality check
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I'll take the draw in the end. We will get better...
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Right, back to The Silo
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A draw isn’t ideal but a launching point after a number of losses. We beat Juventus and we will get a load of confidence back.
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A point at home against a injury savaged palace who didnt have thwir best player is still not a good result
What about injury savaged Villa?
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Another one gone that not so long ago would have been a nailed on three points. Frustrating.
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Pundit, That was a hell a lot of fun that game???really.
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Poor. Weekend semi ruined
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A point at home against a injury savaged palace who didnt have thwir best player is still not a good result
What about injury savaged Villa?
What about them? Are they better or worse than palace?
Are palace at home or away?
Did we have our best player out like they did ?
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Pundit, That was a hell a lot of fun that game???really.
Well for a neutral, 4 goals, posts and crossbars hit, missed pen/great pen save, 30 shots, 11 leading to goals/saves, could be classed as a fun game.
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Chelsea next (not Liverpool, my bad) we need to get back in the groove.
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A point at home against a injury savaged palace who didnt have thwir best player is still not a good result
What about injury savaged Villa?
What about them? Are they better or worse than palace?
Are palace at home or away?
Did we have our best player out like they did ?
Our best player is our keeper. We had our next best out (Kamara).
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Changes are needed.
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Poor. Weekend semi ruined
You shouldn’t be doing that at the match anyway!
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A point at home against a injury savaged palace who didnt have thwir best player is still not a good result
What about injury savaged Villa?
What about them? Are they better or worse than palace?
Are palace at home or away?
Did we have our best player out like they did ?
Our best player is our keeper. We had our next best out (Kamara).
Id say our best player is ollie. Theirs is eze
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It's all gone a bit 'teenage girls' in here.. and not in a good way
That’s the MAFS bunch!
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Poor. Weekend semi ruined
You shouldn’t be doing that at the match anyway!
😂
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It's all gone a bit 'teenage girls' in here.. and not in a good way
That’s the MAFS bunch!
😂😂😂😂 thanks for cheering me up small rodent. That did make me laugh out loud
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Changes are needed.
Like what? There is also a need for patience from fans. And yes I’m frustrated too. We have come a long way and there will be bumps to overcome. I think our own expectations have been heightened in some cases to an irrational level. This group has to learn to overcome them. It’s part of the bigger journey.