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Title: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 29, 2024, 04:43:04 PM
Villa Park
Weds 2nd Oct, 8pm KO.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 29, 2024, 04:47:27 PM
2-2. They go 2-0 up but late goals from McNaught and Deehan earn us a point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 29, 2024, 04:49:17 PM
Much better performance. 2-1 to us. CL piece of piss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 29, 2024, 04:50:57 PM
If we defend as team like we have done we’ll get clobbered.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on September 29, 2024, 04:55:46 PM
If carlos plays we lose. If konsa and pau at cb. I think 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 29, 2024, 05:00:33 PM
I wonder where is Footy-Vill?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 29, 2024, 05:04:53 PM
0-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 29, 2024, 05:04:56 PM
1-0 Watkins , off his shin and in off the post
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 29, 2024, 05:05:25 PM
I think we're going to have to play Ned in this one.

Ironically, he has more Champions League experience than most of our squad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on September 29, 2024, 05:09:42 PM
I think we're going to have to play Ned in this one.

Ironically, he has more Champions League experience than most of our squad.

I just cant believe how little time neds been given
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Paul.S on September 29, 2024, 05:25:39 PM
Can’t we play Maatsen right back? Yes, he’s a left back but surely he’s capable of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on September 29, 2024, 05:27:57 PM
Hopefully it’s fated to be 1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 29, 2024, 05:31:19 PM
Unai v Kompany.   

There is only one winner.  We just need to score at least 3 or 4 goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 29, 2024, 05:33:49 PM
Konsa cannot start at RB
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on September 29, 2024, 05:55:47 PM
Is Luke Young still playing somewhere?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 29, 2024, 05:56:31 PM
Rogers to Bailey who turns him one way and turns him the other…Watkins, it must be. 1-0 us….or 3-1 them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on September 29, 2024, 06:26:21 PM
Hoping that we keep up our 100% record against this lot
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 29, 2024, 06:36:53 PM
I wonder if Rapid still have that "your nightmare returns" banner for us to borrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: trinityoap on September 29, 2024, 06:40:14 PM
It is written in the stars. Don't ask me what. It' a secret that I can only tell you after the match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 29, 2024, 07:13:55 PM
I do not see us getting much from this, we are not on form. It will be a great night until the game starts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on September 29, 2024, 08:07:12 PM
We also have to start getting our excuses in for the annual loss to Manure next weekend. I’ll start us off…players knackered after the Bayern match. Referee was shit. Would have bossed it had SJM been playing. Same goes for Kamara, Mings and anyone else that hasn’t been in a Villa shirt for a long time.
Seriously though, I’d play Maatsen at right back. Don’t think we have anything to lose given our other options.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 29, 2024, 08:09:11 PM
1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 29, 2024, 08:16:06 PM
Exciting, innit?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 29, 2024, 08:35:32 PM
1-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 29, 2024, 08:59:07 PM
Exciting, innit?

Absolutely.

Are any London Villans watching this in the Yak Shack or whatever it's called in Elephant & Castle?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 29, 2024, 09:01:33 PM
1-3

You changed your mind quick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 29, 2024, 10:28:18 PM
I do not see us getting much from this, we are not on form. It will be a great night until the game starts.
I know we didn’t play well today, but we’ve played 8 games this season in all competitions, record so far, WLWWWWWD, Reservations about some players aside we kind of are on form.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 29, 2024, 10:31:07 PM
I do not see us getting much from this, we are not on form. It will be a great night until the game starts.
I know we didn’t play well today, but we’ve played 8 games this season in all competitions, record so far, WLWWWWWD, Reservations about some players aside we kind of are on form.
Look at who we have been playing, look at the last 3 games, awful against Wolves 1st half,crap against Wycombe and today as bad as I have seen an Emery team.
Carlos up against Harry Kane? Shudders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 29, 2024, 10:31:25 PM
We are, but in some ways we’re not. We’ve managed to get the results we’d expect for the most part, which in many ways in admiral. But I doubt anyone watching thinks we’ve hit top gear yet. We play well in patches, but can be quite poor at times.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 29, 2024, 10:48:35 PM
I get that we haven’t hit the heights of the best games of last season, Brighton, West Ham, Arsenal, Man City at home etc, i know we havent played well in 2 or 3 of the games for parts of the games, but if if 6 wins and a draw out of 8 games isnt form, im not sure what is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 29, 2024, 11:01:22 PM
I get that we have hit the heights of the best games of last season, Brighton, West Ham, Arsenal, Man City at home etc, i know we havent played well in 2 or 3 of the games for parts of the games, but if if 6 wins and a draw out of 8 games isnt form, im not sure what is.

Those are the facts. The reality is that we’re a bit hit and miss in most games. The Young Boys game apart we always look as though we’ll leak goals. Maybe, collectively we’ll relish the challenge and put in a night to remember. That’s my hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 29, 2024, 11:12:29 PM
It's not a winner takes all game though. A draw would be great . We need one eye on Sunday . will watch near our Glasgow office with some Celtic mates for this one . UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on September 30, 2024, 06:53:11 AM
I get that we haven’t hit the heights of the best games of last season, Brighton, West Ham, Arsenal, Man City at home etc, i know we havent played well in 2 or 3 of the games for parts of the games, but if if 6 wins and a draw out of 8 games isnt form, im not sure what is.

I think its more the level of opposition.  Yes you can beat who is in front of you but we haven't really beaten anyone with ease and the concern is when we play the better sides. This is going to be a real test. If we defend as badly as we have been its going to be a blood bath vs munich
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 30, 2024, 07:16:34 AM
We always beat these.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on September 30, 2024, 07:41:12 AM
It might not be the most important match in footballing terms but it's certainly our most high profile, why even 5Live were salivating at the prospect as early as last week. Of course they couldn't be arsed mentioning our result in this morning's bulletin but there you go.

We looked iffy yesterday, as we did for much of the Wolves game so confidence may not be that high around the place but come Wednesday that will all change. On this fabulous ride with Emery, this match feels like a landmark, what sort of landmark I'm not sure but fortune favours the optimistic so I'm plumping for a night that we will be talking about in the Memories section of this site in years to come. We'd better had as well, I've paid 70 fucking quid.

2-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 30, 2024, 09:23:56 AM
I assume Kane will play and see an entertaining just fall short 2-3.

Neither side are great defensively so see a lot of chances created.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: devilla on September 30, 2024, 10:50:01 AM
Is there any chance Cash could be back for this one?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 30, 2024, 10:53:44 AM
1-5
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 30, 2024, 11:00:09 AM
Is there any chance Cash could be back for this one?

Back in the squad maybe but Emery rarely drops a player coming back from injury into the starting team. If we have to go with Konsa again at RB then we have to at least start with Maatsen on the other side to give us some bit of zip on at least one wing.

It could be the night Emery goes with a back 5 with the two young lads as wing backs. McGinn is injured and the rest of our wide options in midfield and up front are not in the best form. Narrow midfield three could bring Barkley into the team or else Ramsey breaking from midfield and keeping Kimmich honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on September 30, 2024, 11:00:30 AM
It might not be the most important match in footballing terms but it's certainly our most high profile, why even 5Live were salivating at the prospect as early as last week. Of course they couldn't be arsed mentioning our result in this morning's bulletin but there you go.

We looked iffy yesterday, as we did for much of the Wolves game so confidence may not be that high around the place but come Wednesday that will all change. On this fabulous ride with Emery, this match feels like a landmark, what sort of landmark I'm not sure but fortune favours the optimistic so I'm plumping for a night that we will be talking about in the Memories section of this site in years to come. We'd better had as well, I've paid 70 fucking quid.

2-0

How would you have felt if they had mentioned our drab draw with Ipswich Town?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 30, 2024, 11:04:07 AM
I'd go:

Emi

Kosta Konsa Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Barkley Ramsey

Watkins Rogers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 30, 2024, 11:04:15 AM
‘Meanwhile at Portman Road near the home of former serial killer Steve Wright Villa and Ipswich fought out an entertaining 2-2 draw which sees the home side go four games unbeaten and Villa missing the chance to go 2nd.’
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 30, 2024, 11:19:53 AM
I'd go for something like

                Martinez
Nedeljkovic Konsa Torres Digne
       Onana Barkley Tielemans
                Rogers Ramsey
                    Watkins

And bring Bailey, Duran, Maatsen on later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on September 30, 2024, 11:52:20 AM
I'd go:

Emi

Kosta Konsa Torres Digne

Bailey Tielemans Barkley Ramsey

Watkins Rogers


That’s the side I would play and the best way to get back to the balance and style we played last season!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 30, 2024, 12:58:57 PM
You would drop our most expensive player who has scored 3 in 8 games so far?
He was not great on Sunday - but that could be said about a good few.

Same team as yesterday but i would try either Bogarde or Ned at RB just so Konsa can keep tabs on Cheaty Kane.

Considering he has pace and a decent passing range - why have they never tried Carlos at RB?

I would forsake a narrow loss to these with a win on Sunday 100 times out of 100
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 30, 2024, 01:02:35 PM
I'm going for a 2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 30, 2024, 01:02:43 PM
I'd play Onana and Barkley central with Tielemans and Bailey making the 'box' shape rather than wingers per se (though obvs Bailey will play more like a winger no matter what you tell him).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 30, 2024, 01:02:45 PM
You would drop our most expensive player who has scored 3 in 8 games so far?
Same team as yesterday but i would try either Bogarde or Ned at RB just so Konsa can keep tabs on Cheaty Kane.

I would forsake a narrow loss to these with a win on Sunday 100 times out of 100

Agree, and agree, but hope we can get a draw. Would put Ned in at RB and move Konsa to the centre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 30, 2024, 01:14:30 PM
Can we avoid any talk of decisions going against us such as Thomas Muller has a goal disallowed, then it's given after being played onside by a Konsa toenail.
In short, don't mention the var.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on September 30, 2024, 01:18:11 PM
Can we avoid any talk of decisions going against us such as Thomas Muller has a goal disallowed, then it's given after being played onside by a Konsa toenail.
In short, don't mention the var.

Bravo
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 30, 2024, 01:28:33 PM
Play Konsa at RB and we lose. 
Play him a CB and we win. 
It’s a simple game. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 30, 2024, 01:31:48 PM
Play Konsa at RB and we lose. 
Play him a CB and we win. 
It’s a simple game. 

Yeah really simple. That's the message to take from our most successful manager in decades. Football's simple. Easy. Piece of piss. Involves no complexity at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 01:51:18 PM
wonder how long it will take Kane to do a Richard Burton in our box. First 15 mins i reckon
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 30, 2024, 01:53:34 PM
wonder how long it will take Kane to do a Richard Burton in our box. First 15 mins i reckon

Nah, Elizabeth Taylor's been dead for years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 30, 2024, 02:35:25 PM
I'd play Onana and Barkley central with Tielemans and Bailey making the 'box' shape rather than wingers per se (though obvs Bailey will play more like a winger no matter what you tell him).

Is he stupid?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 30, 2024, 03:17:35 PM
Play Konsa at RB and we lose. 
Play him a CB and we win. 
It’s a simple game. 
Oh, I wish it was that simple.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 30, 2024, 03:22:45 PM
1-0

Watkins. Shin, post and in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 30, 2024, 03:34:17 PM
We're going to win this.  It'll be one of those rare freak stats in football, the only team to have a 100% record against Bayern Munich or something.

I see that there is a new artwork for 1982 outside the ground. Does anyone think we are honouring it too much? Apparently there is going to be something before the game as well. Other fans accuse us of milking this one trophy for all it's worth and I have to say I think they're right.

Hopefully that will end when we win number 2 in May. Or June or whenever the fuck the final is.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on September 30, 2024, 03:35:50 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 30, 2024, 03:39:25 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us

No. We're at home. A draw isn't a ridiculouy good result against anyone with the exception of needing it to guarantee a trophy win or something similar.

We should be hopeful of beating anyone at home. That's our level now. We aren't Lambert era Villa. Time to change the mentality.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 30, 2024, 03:44:53 PM
1-0

Watkins. Shin, post and in.

Beaten to it.

1-0 Watkins , off his shin and in off the post
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 30, 2024, 04:02:05 PM
I'd go for something like

                Martinez
Nedeljkovic Konsa Torres Digne
       Onana Barkley Tielemans
                Rogers Ramsey
                    Watkins

And bring Bailey, Duran, Maatsen on later.

A bit early for a Christmas tree but needs must. I like the two ball carriers behind Watkins. Play to their strengths. Ramsey with his back to goal isn't working, both he and Rogers can play crucial roles running at the Bayern defence.

A defence well covered by a midfield two or three. I'd be tempted to play with the ball, Tielemans just in front of Onana and Barkley, without it dropping back to a three. Under no circumstances would I play just Onana and Tielemans as our defensive midfielders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on September 30, 2024, 04:20:53 PM
Ned at RB  for me with Konsa/ Pau /Digne.   Onana/Tielemans need to be properly on it from the start. If Emi puts in a Spink 82  performance we will win, no worries.
On the other hand if we concede first like we seem to do I don't think it'll end well.
For those fortunate to have a ticket enjoy every minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on September 30, 2024, 04:26:04 PM
I'd go for something like

                Martinez
Nedeljkovic Konsa Torres Digne
       Onana Barkley Tielemans
                Rogers Ramsey
                    Watkins

And bring Bailey, Duran, Maatsen on later.

A bit early for a Christmas tree but needs must. I like the two ball carriers behind Watkins. Play to their strengths. Ramsey with his back to goal isn't working, both he and Rogers can play crucial roles running at the Bayern defence.

A defence well covered by a midfield two or three. I'd be tempted to play with the ball, Tielemans just in front of Onana and Barkley, without it dropping back to a three. Under no circumstances would I play just Onana and Tielemans as our defensive midfielders.

Yep, I'd have Tielemans floating about, picking up the ball and passing it about. With those three we can hold position, links well with intricate passing and use the full backs for width on either side. Watkins would enjoy it and we'd have Digne and Tielemans on dead ball duty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Didier Five on September 30, 2024, 04:34:39 PM
I think Bayern will win this, we let goals in pretty much every game and this team has some seriously good players to punish us
1-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 30, 2024, 05:00:18 PM
What do the Bayern boardies think of us, for those who skulk on rival forums (BV, Dave?)?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 30, 2024, 05:05:08 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us

Huh? Why?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on September 30, 2024, 05:09:31 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us

Huh? Why?

I wouldn't say 'ridiculous' but a draw against Bayern in the group stages is something I would be happy with. Would be different if it was a two legged tie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on September 30, 2024, 05:14:24 PM
I wonder if Rapid still have that "your nightmare returns" banner for us to borrow.

I just saw this - brilliant! 🌟
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on September 30, 2024, 05:23:42 PM
What do the Bayern boardies think of us, for those who skulk on rival forums (BV, Dave?)?
They think Kane is a serious doubt,  and Muller will start. Don't seem overly worried about us and have one eye on Frankfurt at the weekend. They know we are shaky at the back and are reasonably confident. Most of them predict an away win of 1:3 or 1:4...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 30, 2024, 05:25:57 PM
I'd play Onana and Barkley central with Tielemans and Bailey making the 'box' shape rather than wingers per se (though obvs Bailey will play more like a winger no matter what you tell him).

Is he stupid?

Not at all, I just think it's where he'd always see opportunities and drift towards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 30, 2024, 05:30:23 PM
What do the Bayern boardies think of us, for those who skulk on rival forums (BV, Dave?)?

I think you meant research rather than skulk. Anyway not much game chat yet, just that it should be a fun trip to Birmingham and "es ist voller Möpse, Muschi und der Villa", which I'm waiting on Proprosition Joe to translate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 05:39:44 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us
what would a win be then
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on September 30, 2024, 05:46:20 PM
The priority is top4 again. These champions league games are to be enjoyed as a bonus. From the 8 games we will qualify for the later stages, whatever result we get in this match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 30, 2024, 06:05:21 PM
What do the Bayern boardies think of us, for those who skulk on rival forums (BV, Dave?)?

I think you meant research rather than skulk. Anyway not much game chat yet, just that it should be a fun trip to Birmingham and "es ist voller Möpse, Muschi und der Villa", which I'm waiting on Proprosition Joe to translate.

Apologies. Long may such excellent research continue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 30, 2024, 06:17:57 PM
I'd go for something like

                Martinez
Nedeljkovic Konsa Torres Digne
       Onana Barkley Tielemans
                Rogers Ramsey
                    Watkins

And bring Bailey, Duran, Maatsen on later.
A bit early for a Christmas tree but needs must. I like the two ball carriers behind Watkins. Play to their strengths. Ramsey with his back to goal isn't working, both he and Rogers can play crucial roles running at the Bayern defence.
A defence well covered by a midfield two or three. I'd be tempted to play with the ball, Tielemans just in front of Onana and Barkley, without it dropping back to a three. Under no circumstances would I play just Onana and Tielemans as our defensive midfielders.
Bayern play with wingers, I think, which may mean Nedeljkovic and Digne not getting as far forward as they usually do. Whether they do or not, our midfield 2 or 3 will need to be ready to do the hard yards of covering the full back positions during the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 06:23:32 PM
Think we will see Emerys stubborn side and Konsa will again be RB and Carlos asked to man mark Kane
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 30, 2024, 06:48:56 PM
You would drop our most expensive player who has scored 3 in 8 games so far?
He was not great on Sunday - but that could be said about a good few.

It's tempting. If McGinn was fit I wouldn't hesitate, he'd give Ned the type of cover that will likely be required. Onana has had a few average/poor games these last three league games. If it wasn't for his price tag or it was Big Tim walking inside our own penalty area, completely switched off and allowing Ipswich to score, he'd be getting pelters and rightly so. Take his goals away and there's plenty of room for improvement.

Youri needs to be in his ear on Wednesday night for 96 minutes. Bayern is the type of game a very disciplined, no nonsense Barrenechea would have been ideal for.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 30, 2024, 06:54:55 PM
Think we will see Emerys stubborn side and Konsa will again be RB and Carlos asked to man mark Kane

Not sure it's allowed for home players to sit on the away team's bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on September 30, 2024, 07:32:27 PM
Its Konsa at right back for me. Theres no way I'd put either of those kids, or a ring rusty Cash in against Musiala.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 30, 2024, 07:45:00 PM
Take a moment to look at the thread title and let that sink in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 30, 2024, 07:46:22 PM
Its Konsa at right back for me. Theres no way I'd put either of those kids, or a ring rusty Cash in against Musiala.
Yep, despite massive reservations about Carlos, throwing Costa or Bogarde into this, would be a huge risk. Difficult decision for Unai.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on September 30, 2024, 07:51:46 PM
I think it will 100% be the same back 4 as against Ipswich.  Its a long way from perfect - but we know what their all at there best. 

Hopefully, and I mean hopefully, Carlos seems to play better the bigger the game so maybe it will suit him. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 07:58:35 PM
Martinez could do with upping his game for this one .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on September 30, 2024, 08:03:43 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 08:13:16 PM
Thought that was Ryanair advertising at first
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on September 30, 2024, 08:18:05 PM
A draw would be a ridiculously good result for us

Huh? Why?

Because munich are far superior than us. Obviously anythjng can happen but come on a points a good result for us
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 30, 2024, 08:24:17 PM
No they aren't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 30, 2024, 08:45:36 PM
They play in a much much less competitive league, and have Vincent Kompany as their manager.  It’s a bit like playing somebody like spurs.  This cap doffing can do one!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2024, 08:54:46 PM
I’m all for us bigging up Villa, but I suspect any impartial observer doing a combined 11 would include a majority of Bayern players. That’s not to say it’s a complete mismatch, or we shouldn’t be looking to win, but I’d say they’re stronger overall. If we did get a point it’d be a pretty good result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on September 30, 2024, 08:54:57 PM
6 Champions League wins would suggest a mis match, however our upturn in the last couple of years means we can have a real go on Wednesday, anything is possible with Unai's nous in Europe
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on September 30, 2024, 08:55:00 PM
I mean... they are better than us. I know we are going good guns under Unai but they've been at the top table for years, this is one of DC's less ridiculous opinions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 30, 2024, 08:55:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYvsEeIWcAAZigh?format=jpg&name=large)

Fuck, thought that was Highfield Road for a sec...just saw light blue and got the fear.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 30, 2024, 09:01:18 PM
They aren't any better than Man City or Arsenal, who we've taken 9 points from the last 15. They're a good side, but so are we.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 09:07:00 PM
I'd rather beat Yanited Sunday than these lot . Obviously like to win both but I'd take a draw , play in 2nd gear then go full pelt Sunday before the international break .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Paul.S on September 30, 2024, 09:11:26 PM
They are a very, very decent team. The speed in which they move the ball in the final third is what we’ve got to negate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Beard82 on September 30, 2024, 09:11:42 PM
There a better team - but, like for the last 2 years - we have Unai and with him anything is possible
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 30, 2024, 09:16:31 PM
Our biggest concern is that cheating ****** up front falling over in the penalty box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on September 30, 2024, 09:21:50 PM
Our biggest concern is that cheating ****** up front falling over in the penalty box.
He's a serious doubt apparently, unfortunately they have another cheating ****** in Muller to replace him
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: exigo on September 30, 2024, 09:26:47 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2024, 09:30:04 PM
They aren't any better than Man City or Arsenal, who we've taken 9 points from the last 15. They're a good side, but so are we.

It’s not exactly comparable though. Player teams you’re not familiar with, with European experience, is a different challenge. We’re a good side, but if we got a point it’d still be a bloody good result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on September 30, 2024, 09:35:42 PM
Wouldn’t be ridiculously good though. Think that’s hyperbole. I’d be slightly surprised if we managed to get a draw, but I expect us to be able to get a draw at home against anyone.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2024, 09:38:30 PM
Yeah I wouldn’t go crazy, a win would be a brilliant result. A draw would be good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Cliftonville Villlain on September 30, 2024, 09:38:46 PM
They're a great team in a shit league. That's all they are. We'll probably give them too much respect in the first 20 minutes and then we'll remember that we can play a bit too. One of Ollies great nights in Europe hopefully.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on September 30, 2024, 09:39:19 PM
Yeah I wouldn’t go crazy, a win would be a brilliant result. A draw would be good.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2024, 09:45:39 PM
They're a great team in a shit league. That's all they are. We'll probably give them too much respect in the first 20 minutes and then we'll remember that we can play a bit too. One of Ollies great nights in Europe hopefully.

A shit league isn’t really true is it though? Them, Leverkusen who won the Europa League, Dortmund who were Champions League finalists. Leipzig are very strong, and Stuggart pushed Real pretty hard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on September 30, 2024, 10:17:15 PM
They're a great team in a shit league. That's all they are. We'll probably give them too much respect in the first 20 minutes and then we'll remember that we can play a bit too. One of Ollies great nights in Europe hopefully.

A shit league isn’t really true is it though? Them, Leverkusen who won the Europa League, Dortmund who were Champions League finalists. Leipzig are very strong, and Stuggart pushed Real pretty hard.

Yeah, it really isn't a shit league, particularly the top end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on September 30, 2024, 10:27:06 PM
They're a great team in a shit league. That's all they are. We'll probably give them too much respect in the first 20 minutes and then we'll remember that we can play a bit too. One of Ollies great nights in Europe hopefully.

A shit league isn’t really true is it though? Them, Leverkusen who won the Europa League, Dortmund who were Champions League finalists. Leipzig are very strong, and Stuggart pushed Real pretty hard.
A strange one the Bundesliga. Germany have been in 8 World Cup finals so have got something going on. Bayern have been a giant in Europe for 50yrs but we could be playing them at a good time. This could be a massive scalp for us it we could get a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 30, 2024, 10:52:50 PM
They're a great team in a shit league. That's all they are. We'll probably give them too much respect in the first 20 minutes and then we'll remember that we can play a bit too. One of Ollies great nights in Europe hopefully.

A shit league isn’t really true is it though? Them, Leverkusen who won the Europa League, Dortmund who were Champions League finalists. Leipzig are very strong, and Stuggart pushed Real pretty hard.
Im being a bit pedantic but Atalanta comfortably beat Leverkusen in the Europa final
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2024, 11:02:24 PM
You are absolutely correct! Sorry brain fade on my part, but yeah Europa League finalists. I guess the overall point is there’s some pretty strong sides in the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on September 30, 2024, 11:25:26 PM
Sundays game is bigger despite all the exaggeration hype for Bayern . Yanited are vulnerable if we can't beat them now we never will .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 30, 2024, 11:25:58 PM
We have every chance of beating them. 
Just need the players to step up to the plate and get stuck in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on October 01, 2024, 12:46:57 AM
I never thought when I watched Juventus beat us way back in 1983 that it would be another 41 years before we'd be back at this level. I just hope we do ourselves justice. We've earned the right to be there & should fear nobody.

The place will be rocking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on October 01, 2024, 08:15:29 AM
So looking forward to the game tomorrow night - for me there danger comes from the wide players, if we can contain them and don't give them the freedom of the park in the midfield, we could do very well tomorrow, hopefully Mr. Emery will have a brilliant tactical game plan.

When I look back to us winning the European cup and then losing to a brilliant Juventus team the following season, it only seems 5 minutes ago - how quickly time goes.

Enjoy every second of tomorrow evening, it could be one of those evenings, where fans say in 20 years time "I was there when we beat Bayern Munich"

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 01, 2024, 08:59:02 AM
If we play anything like we did Sunday we will get beat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2024, 09:03:07 AM
Drinking beforehand and my mate is desperate to hear the Champions League theme tune. What time do I need to arrive to ensure that we will be in the ground on time? About midday?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: langleylions on October 01, 2024, 09:13:20 AM
Gunna get there early , i cant miss THAT music
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on October 01, 2024, 09:16:50 AM
Half an hour should be sufficient I would think. Let's face it, we get fireworks and flame throwers for Bournemouth at home so goodness knows what we'll get tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2024, 09:23:35 AM
Obviously you need to factor in the likely club fuck up in getting everybody in on time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 01, 2024, 09:28:15 AM
If we play anything like we did Sunday we will get beat.

If we defend like we have in most games we’ll probably lose. We just have to start working harder and better on the defensive side - too many players aren’t tracking runners, are switching off. It’s frustrating because we have so much going forward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on October 01, 2024, 09:35:06 AM
If we play anything like we did Sunday we will get beat.

If we defend like we have in most games we’ll probably lose. We just have to start working harder and better on the defensive side - too many players aren’t tracking runners, are switching off. It’s frustrating because we have so much going forward.

This I agree with - we really have to stop making silly mistakes.  Defending corners needs to be improved too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 01, 2024, 09:36:29 AM
The Bundesliga overall isn't as strong as the Premier League, but their better teams are as strong as the top teams in our league. This will be tough, but anything is possible.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on October 01, 2024, 09:36:51 AM
As has been said they have great attacking players and are superb on the transition, we have to be very organised at the back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 01, 2024, 09:39:03 AM
As has been said they have great attacking players and are superb on the transition, we have to be very organised at the back.

And therein lies the problem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2024, 09:56:27 AM
If we play anything like we did Sunday we will get beat.

If we defend like we have in most games we’ll probably lose. We just have to start working harder and better on the defensive side - too many players aren’t tracking runners, are switching off. It’s frustrating because we have so much going forward.

This I agree with - we really have to stop making silly mistakes.  Defending corners needs to be improved too.

Does it? We defended 10 without goal concession on Sunday. We didn't win any corners to show our attacking prowess from them...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: trinityoap on October 01, 2024, 10:09:12 AM
I keep forgetting that we are now Aston Villa, Champions League team. We are no longer Aston Villa, plucky losers. We are in it on merit. Just go out and beat them .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on October 01, 2024, 10:36:13 AM
I keep forgetting that we are now Aston Villa, Champions League team. We are no longer Aston Villa, plucky losers. We are in it on merit. Just go out and beat them .

Exactly, it’s not an F.A. cup tie, where plucky lower league club vs Man City, we have earned the right to play them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on October 01, 2024, 10:43:08 AM
Not sure what the Bayern fans think, but i bet there will be some apprehension about coming to a PL team with one of Europe's top managers in charge.

It's a real test of how far we have come in the last two years.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on October 01, 2024, 10:57:14 AM
 Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 01, 2024, 11:40:12 AM
They play in a much much less competitive league, and have Vincent Kompany as their manager.  It’s a bit like playing somebody like spurs.  This cap doffing can do one!

Does that mean Leverkusen and dortmund are not good then? Same with Leizpig?

I think you do need to take the claret and blue shades off and be realistic munich are better than us and are expected to beat us.

But thats not saying we cant win as we have shown w ecan beat anyone with citeh and arsenal last season. Don't turn your nose up at a point that be a great result for hs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2024, 11:48:05 AM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on October 01, 2024, 11:50:41 AM
If we play anything like we did Sunday we will get beat.

If we defend like we have in most games we’ll probably lose. We just have to start working harder and better on the defensive side - too many players aren’t tracking runners, are switching off. It’s frustrating because we have so much going forward.

This I agree with - we really have to stop making silly mistakes.  Defending corners needs to be improved too.

Does it? We defended 10 without goal concession on Sunday. We didn't win any corners to show our attacking prowess from them...


I don't get the impression we're in control of the situation and quite often don't win the ball in the air.  It always feels as though we're more likely to concede than not from a corner to me.  I haven't got time to find the stats to back that up though. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on October 01, 2024, 12:04:45 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?
A few mentions of 82, but they have been in so many CL finals since it's just another final to them. Like fans of other massive clubs, they are generally too wrapped up in themselves to bother about us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 01, 2024, 12:09:02 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?

Visit their museum at the Allianz and you'll find absolutely zero reference to 1982.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on October 01, 2024, 12:25:01 PM
I expect our museums don't mention 2000 or 2015 much either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2024, 12:34:51 PM
I expect our museums don't mention 2000 or 2015 much either.

We blew our wad on the Niklaus Helenius Experience.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2024, 12:37:35 PM
Understandable. His shorts being ripped off him by another sportsman, from Tottenham Hotspurts FC in fact, was quite exciting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 01, 2024, 12:47:42 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?

When I worked at BHX I spoke to a few of their supporters. They still remember. One bloke said, "And in this city I do not talk about football. "
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on October 01, 2024, 12:49:35 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?

Visit their museum at the Allianz and you'll find absolutely zero reference to 1982.
I imagine they had a capacity issue to include this alongside the 33 league titles, 20 german cups, 6 european cups and the like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chip Butty 111 on October 01, 2024, 01:49:38 PM
According to one of their forums Kane didn't train yesterday but has today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2024, 01:54:05 PM
According to one of their forums Kane didn't train yesterday but has today.

He'll be on the bench saving him for the weekend. Their focus is winning the league not the CL.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on October 01, 2024, 01:58:31 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?

Visit their museum at the Allianz and you'll find absolutely zero reference to 1982.
It does, it just says they were unlucky and by far the better team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2024, 02:07:19 PM
Anyone caught themselves randomly whistling the CL tune?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2024, 02:19:57 PM
Anyone caught themselves randomly whistling the CL tune?

Whistling on a Tuesday? Oooh, you barstard!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 01, 2024, 02:38:27 PM
I'm going tomorrow but being honest I can say I'm not too bothered about it. Put it this way, I have been more looking forward to our league games so far and see Sunday's game as more important. I may attend the Juve game, I may not.  I shouldn't feel this way but I do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on October 01, 2024, 03:51:21 PM
I'm going tomorrow but being honest I can say I'm not too bothered about it. Put it this way, I have been more looking forward to our league games so far and see Sunday's game as more important. I may attend the Juve game, I may not.  I shouldn't feel this way but I do.
This is exactly the right way to feel about it. These games are a fun event. The league is the serious business
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on October 01, 2024, 04:09:42 PM
Anyone caught themselves randomly whistling the CL tune?

Whistling on a Tuesday? Oooh, you barstard!
these lot are taking it seriously

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cn4ywj57130o

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on October 01, 2024, 04:11:49 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?

Visit their museum at the Allianz and you'll find absolutely zero reference to 1982.
It does, it just says they were unlucky and by far the better team.
To be fair they are right on both counts but that’s football.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on October 01, 2024, 04:53:12 PM
Even with us in the Champions League, I can’t stand that dirge of an anthem.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on October 01, 2024, 05:13:06 PM
I'm going tomorrow but being honest I can say I'm not too bothered about it. Put it this way, I have been more looking forward to our league games so far and see Sunday's game as more important. I may attend the Juve game, I may not.  I shouldn't feel this way but I do.
This is exactly the right way to feel about it. These games are a fun event. The league is the serious business
I agree, we should save our energy in the Champions League games and put all our effort into the League games so that we can qualify for the Champions League again next season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on October 01, 2024, 06:12:44 PM
Someone is winning 3-0 but I haven’t decided who yet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2024, 06:30:24 PM
I agree, we should save our energy in the Champions League games and put all our effort into the League games so that we can qualify for the Champions League again next season.
Absolutely, we should take the trophy for finishing 4th every season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2024, 06:58:44 PM
Flags in seats, hmm. https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1841168507674792417
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on October 01, 2024, 07:03:07 PM
I agree, we should save our energy in the Champions League games and put all our effort into the League games so that we can qualify for the Champions League again next season.
Absolutely, we should take the trophy for finishing 4th every season.
Just goes to show. Sadly, you can't teach the blind to see
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 01, 2024, 07:06:57 PM
Flags in seats, hmm. https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1841168507674792417


More flags than seats in the Witton hmmmm 😃
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2024, 07:18:00 PM
Fuck the flags, what we need is a massive banner in the Holte, saying REMEMBER US, YOU CUNTS?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 01, 2024, 07:22:17 PM
I love the flags. 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 01, 2024, 07:27:28 PM
Fuck the flags, what we need is a massive banner in the Holte, saying REMEMBER US, YOU CUNTS?

This is my Bible. This is how I shall worship for the rest of time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2024, 07:29:15 PM
Respect for the commentator "Fletch" gone up quite a bit - he knows his Villa '80-'82 history:

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 01, 2024, 07:58:47 PM
This time tomorrow the champions league music being played as Villa line up against Bayern Munich.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 01, 2024, 07:59:48 PM
I can't really put into words now amazing it's feeling to be having this fixture .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on October 01, 2024, 08:03:27 PM
Flags in seats, hmm. https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1841168507674792417

I hate the bloody flags.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on October 01, 2024, 08:04:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYy1RdUXIAAEwC1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 01, 2024, 08:07:58 PM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 01, 2024, 08:21:49 PM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.

Its certainly stronger than pau and carlos
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 01, 2024, 08:22:17 PM
Flags in seats, hmm. https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1841168507674792417

£50 deducted from your bank account as soon as you start waving it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 01, 2024, 08:32:45 PM
Flags in seats, hmm. https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1841168507674792417

£50 deducted from your bank account as soon as you start waving it.

Don't  be so ridiculous...your going to get a £60 increase for next cl match - but you will get a signed photo of heck as a thank you
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2024, 08:38:30 PM
Fuck the flags, what we need is a massive banner in the Holte, saying REMEMBER US, YOU CUNTS?

Paulie is as ever, correct.

Eat shit Breitner, you pube headed ****** and that epic fucking gobshite Kane. Two pair of lip flapping wank shafts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 01, 2024, 08:41:47 PM
Oh, I thought it was a dig at Heck and Co.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on October 01, 2024, 08:44:06 PM
So did I.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 01, 2024, 08:50:18 PM
"Bruh..."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 01, 2024, 08:54:22 PM
This time tomorrow the champions league music being played as Villa line up against Bayern Munich.

Music ? We don't need no stinking music.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2024, 08:59:46 PM
Nah bollocks. Hearing that music at Bern was fucking epic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 01, 2024, 09:04:42 PM
The music itself is utter turgid, self indulgent shite of the highest order.

What it means however is epic.
Alternatively thus us Epic

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 01, 2024, 09:05:42 PM
Yea I’m sold on it all, Ill be getting to my seat a good 30 mins before k/o for a change to lap it all up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2024, 09:10:08 PM
This time tomorrow the champions league music being played as Villa line up against Bayern Munich.

Music ? We don't need no stinking music.

Music makes the people come together, music mixes the bourgeoisie and the rebels.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on October 01, 2024, 09:14:56 PM
We need to give Rummenigge a lot of stick when he comes on the pitch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2024, 09:18:43 PM
Most probably a poignant night for them. https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1841206702265549270
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on October 01, 2024, 09:27:27 PM
I’m starting to get excited. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on October 01, 2024, 09:30:25 PM
"You have the respect and love of everyone at the football club.

You are and always will be the legends of Aston Villa Football Club." - Monchi 💜

https://x.com/i/status/1841212210879537505
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 01, 2024, 09:32:25 PM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.

Its certainly stronger than pau and carlos

Evidence?

You certainly can’t point to goals conceded. Even this season. Never mind last, when it was overwhelmingly in favour of Pau/Carlos.

I’d have thought the amount of goals conceded was quite an important metric for centre-back pairings. Seems not for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 01, 2024, 10:02:51 PM
This time tomorrow Aston Villa v Bayern Munich will have finished. Let's savour the moment.
It's less than 24 hours now before the match.
I cannot even wait.  What an occasion!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on October 01, 2024, 10:16:17 PM
Yea I’m sold on it all, Ill be getting to my seat a good 30 mins before k/o for a change to lap it all up.

Was thinking the same but unsure what time to start queuing given recent events.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on October 01, 2024, 10:25:02 PM
Don't care what music they play as long as we perform on the pitch,it won't make any difference to UEFA what we think
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2024, 10:39:11 PM
Yea I’m sold on it all, Ill be getting to my seat a good 30 mins before k/o for a change to lap it all up.

Yeah I'm never there early either but I absolutely will be for this. I'm so proud of the team and what we've achieved. I think the atmosphere will be like a derby game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 01, 2024, 10:43:50 PM
I just hope we don't get embarrassed. Our inability to defend (why we didn't make RB a priority in the summer I will never know) is going to cost us here.

I'm not sure what the score wil be but I will pleasantly surprised if we still have a positive GD at 10pm.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 01, 2024, 11:11:57 PM
Our defence is a major issue . If Emery can tweak things we might be ok otherwise it's going to be a long night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on October 01, 2024, 11:12:48 PM
They've obviously got some great players, but they are they not better than Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal.

We've matched or beaten all of them over the last 18 months. So we can give Bayern a shock too.

It's been a long time since we've had a game like this to look forward to. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 01, 2024, 11:17:52 PM
They've obviously got some great players, but they are they not better than Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal.

We've matched or beaten all of them over the last 18 months. So we can give Bayern a shock too.

It's been a long time since we've had a game like this to look forward to. UTV
Quite contradictory that post
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 01, 2024, 11:20:15 PM
They've obviously got some great players, but they are they not better than Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal.

We've matched or beaten all of them over the last 18 months. So we can give Bayern a shock too.

It's been a long time since we've had a game like this to look forward to. UTV

I would argue they they are better than at least two of those sides and on current form, their forward line vs our defence may be one of the biggest mismatches we have seen in quite some time.

Our defence has got progressively worse since those wins against Man City and Arsenal so you can't take much from the fact we beat them 9 months ago.

A point would be an incredible result, but I just can't see us getting one. Not with our defence the way it is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2024, 11:29:03 PM
09/04/24 Arsenal 2-2 Bayern Munich
14/04/24 Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa

Let's stop shitting ourselves as though Bayern are some superhuman side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 01, 2024, 11:34:35 PM
09/04/24 Arsenal 2-2 Bayern Munich
14/04/24 Arsenal 0-2 Aston Villa

Let's stop shitting ourselves as though Bayern are some superhuman side.

I think it's quite acceptbale to be worried about their forward line that scored 9 in their last CL game and 12 in their last 3 away games, against a defence that has conceded 5 goals to the likes of Everton, Wolves and Ipswich in recent weeks.

You can point to as many results from last season as you like, but on current form, which is what was being discussed, they look very dangerous going forward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 01, 2024, 11:41:16 PM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.

We're going to funeral them and send them back to Oktoberfest as a charred mess in a tupperware box.

Man up*






* at least those of you who are men.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2024, 11:46:59 PM
I do not see us getting much from this, we are not on form. It will be a great night until the game starts.

Disagree.

With the atmosphere we'll give a good account of ourselves first half. Can see it going like the Arsenal game so vital we take the chances that come our way in the first half.

Just looking through their squad...jeez. Sane, Gnarby, Kingsley Coman, Michael Olise and one of my favourite players to watch Jamal Musiala. Supreme ball carriers with pace the lot of them.

If Delap can make Carlos look like a league 2 defender when running at him he simply can't start this game otherwise he'll be exposed very badly.

Still it will be a great night. I saw elsewhere a poster described themselves as "very nervous" for this game. This has to be the least nervous I've ever been.

Very nervous is when you mess up and lose a play off final and all the ramifications that could've easily happened if NSWE hadn't turned up.

Very nervous is when Whelan is stepping up for that penalty v Preston. You want to score and win but secretly hope it dosen't happen as it probably buys Steve Bruce a few more weeks. Ironically tomorrow is the six year anniversary of that game.

Very nervous is the last ten minutes of the Derby match and hanging on. Same for West Ham away when we had to draw to stay up.

Just enjoy tomorrow watching us yet again compete against a world class team. To those who will be in attendance you're certainly paying enough for the occasion so embrace it as we've waited long enough to be back on this stage at VP.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 01, 2024, 11:48:33 PM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.

We're going to funeral them and send them back to Oktoberfest as a charred mess in a tupperware box.

Man up*






* at least those of you who are men.

So you are not a man if you don't think we are going to win against one of the best teams in Europe?

As it's a pre match thread I think pointing out the concerns ahead of the game is part of the very point of the thread and the forum as a whole.

However it seems that if you don't agree with the idea that we are goung to win every game 5-0 your points aren't valid.

They have been blowing teams away this season. Scoring for fun and sitting top of the Bundesliga. We have been shocking at the back against poor opposition and I worry that we may get exposed by a team as good at scoring as Bayern Munich are.

"Manning up", whatever that is meant to mean, has nothing to do with it.




Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on October 01, 2024, 11:50:22 PM
Training this afternoon.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2024, 11:52:09 PM
They don't even start Oktoberfest in the correct month. As PW says, chumps!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2024, 11:52:20 PM
As a famous philosopher once said

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 01, 2024, 11:52:22 PM
Stop talking us down.

Our form this season is:

P8 W6 D1 L1

Currently sitting 2 points off the top of the Premier League. We won our first Champions League game 0-3. We progressed in the League Cup with our B team.

We have one of the most successful managers in European Club football in charge.

We were 4th in the Premier League last season. We got to the Semi Final of a European competition.

We're Aston Villa, we're at home.

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2024, 11:53:51 PM
Nobody has said they expect us to win every game 5-0, that would be ridiculous. You've said you would be "pleasantly surprised" if we lost by two goals. That's ridiculous, too.

We might lose, but I can't really understand going into it like we are Halifax having drawn Man City away in the cup. We beat Arsenal and Man City and drew with Liverpool at home, last season, and finished fourth. We are currently fifth, so hardly a catastrophic decline. Who knows, maybe it will be fun.

It's certainly a lot more exciting than wondering whether we could keep up with Bristol City and Millwall, like a few years ago.

Even if we do lose, I can't wait.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2024, 11:54:07 PM
Looking on their forums they see us as a bit of a curiosity. They seem a bit concerned about Watkins but don't really mention anyone other than Martinez.

Do they have anyone who remembers '82 and is still grumpy about it or are they all nouvea-yanitedy fans?
A few mentions of 82, but they have been in so many CL finals since it's just another final to them. Like fans of other massive clubs, they are generally too wrapped up in themselves to bother about us.

The 1999 final stings them a thousand times more. Let's face it half of the U.K was in mourning the whole of that summer after Man. United fluked those last few minutes!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2024, 11:56:23 PM
Nobody has said they expect us to win every game 5-0, that would be ridiculous. You've said you would be "pleasantly surprised" if we lost by two goals. That's ridiculous, too.

We might lose, but I can't really understand going into it like we are Halifax having drawn Man City away in the cup. We beat Arsenal and Man City and drew with Liverpool at home, last season, and finished fourth. We are currently fifth, so hardly a catastrophic decline. Who knows, maybe it will be fun.

Let's also remember Unai beat many of this team a few seasons back with Villareal. Over two legs. He'll have a good tactical plan ready for this game don't worry, just up to the players to be brave and execute it.

Can you imagine Slippy or Bruce in charge of us v this type of opponent. We genuinely wouldn't cross the halfway line all night so this is where it's brilliant to have a been there and done it well class manager in this competition as tomorrow won't faze Emery at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 01, 2024, 11:57:43 PM
The 1999 final stings them a thousand times more. Let's face it half of the U.K was in mourning the whole of that summer after Man. United fluked those last few minutes!

2012 must hurt as well, battered Chelsea in their home stadium for 120 mins and managed to lose on penalties. That also left the UK unhappy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on October 02, 2024, 12:01:10 AM
No-one is talking Villa down, they just think it will be tough against a side like Bayern, and it will. No result would surprise me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 02, 2024, 12:13:18 AM
The 1999 final stings them a thousand times more. Let's face it half of the U.K was in mourning the whole of that summer after Man. United fluked those last few minutes!

2012 must hurt as well, battered Chelsea in their home stadium for 120 mins and managed to lose on penalties. That also left the UK unhappy.

Forgot that one. Chelsea had endless ridiculous luck in that run, Messi missed a penalty when Barca were 2-1 up in the SF. Think Robben then missed a penalty in extra time of that final.

So yes 1982 fades into insignificance a bit from their POV given they've won it 2-3 times since.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 02, 2024, 12:23:31 AM
I just hope we don't get embarrassed. Our inability to defend (why we didn't make RB a priority in the summer I will never know) is going to cost us here.

I'm not sure what the score wil be but I will pleasantly surprised if we still have a positive GD at 10pm.


Our defending does need to improve, I’ve been quite vocal on that too, but blimey that’s a real glass empty position. We might lose, but we can absolutely win and any defeat will be disappointing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 02, 2024, 12:30:34 AM
I just hope we don't get embarrassed. Our inability to defend (why we didn't make RB a priority in the summer I will never know) is going to cost us here.

I'm not sure what the score wil be but I will pleasantly surprised if we still have a positive GD at 10pm.


Our defending does need to improve, I’ve been quite vocal on that too, but blimey that’s a real glass empty position. We might lose, but we can absolutely win and any defeat will be disappointing.

Of course we "can" win. That can be said for any game we play. However it's not just about our poor defence, it's their frighteningly good attack that I fear creates a big mismatch on this occassion. I hope I'm wrong but I think we wil need to score at least 4 to win this and I just can't see that happening. I will watch on in hope, rather than expectation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 02, 2024, 12:37:31 AM
Yeah but that’s not quite the same as saying you’ll be pleasantly surprised if we don’t take a hiding. I think it’s a bloody tough game, but I’ll still be frustrated if we lose, particularly if it’s comfortably.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 02, 2024, 12:45:12 AM
They press high, and that is when we are at our best and our worst.

My usual prediction for a good while now: both teams will score, it will not be boring.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 02, 2024, 12:47:40 AM
Yeah but that’s not quite the same as saying you’ll be pleasantly surprised if we don’t take a hiding. I think it’s a bloody tough game, but I’ll still be frustrated if we lose, particularly if it’s comfortably.

What I meant is that I will be surprised if their phenomenal attack don't score a few goals against our defence, given what I have seen so far this season. I don't think that is outlandish and I will be happy to be proven wrong. Kane being out would definitely help. As would scoring a few ourselves of course.

Like I say, I expect to lose this one but of course, will be hoping for a better result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 02, 2024, 12:48:27 AM
They'll be lucky to still have a positive goal difference by the time we've finished Withe them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 02, 2024, 12:49:52 AM
They'll be lucky to still have a positive goal difference by the time we've finished Withe them.

Shaw thang.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on October 02, 2024, 01:26:14 AM
They are a very good side. But we've waited too long to play at this level to be fearful of what might happen. We've earned the right to be here, let's embrace it & enjoy it for what it is, the start of a new journey.

We might witness one of the best nights in our recent history.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rory on October 02, 2024, 02:08:19 AM
4-2 us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Accent Guy on October 02, 2024, 02:11:46 AM
4-2 us.

If we do win, I suspect a scoreline like that won't be far off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 02, 2024, 05:16:15 AM
From the official Bayern Twitter

"✨ Tommy and his gang have arrived in 𝑩𝒊𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒉𝒂𝒎 . ✨"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY03doGWMAEZK_Q?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 02, 2024, 05:41:23 AM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.

Its certainly stronger than pau and carlos

Evidence?

You certainly can’t point to goals conceded. Even this season. Never mind last, when it was overwhelmingly in favour of Pau/Carlos.

I’d have thought the amount of goals conceded was quite an important metric for centre-back pairings. Seems not for a lot of people.

You need evidence? Have you not seen the disaster that is konsa at roght back and carlos at cb?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Towser on October 02, 2024, 06:45:09 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/yQmsZjD/b2c1fe99-032d-4731-ad3e-acc491160764.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQmsZjD)

Last name on our squad list.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on October 02, 2024, 07:08:30 AM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.

Its certainly stronger than pau and carlos

Evidence?

You certainly can’t point to goals conceded. Even this season. Never mind last, when it was overwhelmingly in favour of Pau/Carlos.

I’d have thought the amount of goals conceded was quite an important metric for centre-back pairings. Seems not for a lot of people.

You need evidence? Have you not seen the disaster that is konsa at roght back and carlos at cb?

Other than the odd game we haven’t been strong in defence since the season before last.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 02, 2024, 07:10:33 AM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.


A journalist tried to make the 100% record joke to Emery in the press conference and quickly wished he hadn’t. Unai didn’t appear to get it and looked like somebody had shat in his shoes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: jwarry on October 02, 2024, 07:13:14 AM
In todays Times

I cried when my strike partner Gary died – Villa tributes will be extra special
Gary and I had a telepathic understanding on the pitch and remained friends off it – it’s hard to take that he won’t be with us at Villa Park to celebrate our European Cup-winning team
It is so hard to comprehend that Gary Shaw will not stand alongside us on the pitch before the Champions League match on Wednesday, when Aston Villa pay tribute to our side that lifted the European Cup in 1982. I remember the first time I saw Gary’s shock of blond hair and his finishing, and every Villa fan will have their own cherished memory that will be shared when the team meet Bayern Munich for the first time since that historic final in Rotterdam.

I have a photo at home of the moment I turned around to celebrate scoring the only goal of that final, and Gary’s arms were outstretched and his face lit up in excitement. It always seemed fitting that he started the attack, as we had struck up a telepathic understanding on the pitch. I was his minder and father figure. I was a warrior with a title medal at 29, and felt it my responsibility to look after him when he came through at 19 as the local pin-up boy.

My approach was that if a defender wanted to get to him they needed to come through me first. He would get verbal and physical threats and I taught him my philosophy: “It doesn’t matter how hard they hit you, never let them see you hurt.” The harder I was hit, the more I jumped up and just glared.

Centre backs liked to verbally threaten us, perhaps saying they would break your leg if you go past them. I told Gary that the best way to repay the compliment was by scoring and then telling them: “You missed that, didn’t you?”

Gary started to realise that players were ready to upset him, to put him off his game, as much as trying to mark him. He scored 18 of our combined 38 goals when Villa were crowned champions in 1981, added three in the European Cup run the following season and he opened the scoring when we beat Barcelona in the two-legged Super Cup in January 1983.

Gary got his chance as Brian Little retired because of knee and back injuries. I liked to practise my finishing before the main training session, especially working on the opportunities I had missed in the previous match. Gary joined in and we hit it off. Our bond and understanding was helped by Ron Saunders, the manager, liking to take out the strikers from some practice matches. I was the target man and told Gary to stay near and feed off me. A couple of times I backheeled the ball into his path to score.

Ron used to show tough love to the younger lads, including Gary, Tony Morley and Gordon Cowans. It was only later they realised that he was doing it to keep them grounded. Gary’s hair made him quite striking and he was liked by women. Stan Collymore once said, growing up as a Villa fan, he wanted to dye his hair blond like Gary — but his mum said no.

I’d tell Gary: “Keep your feet on the ground, something could bite you on the backside. You’ve got a long career, concentrate on what we’re doing, namely trying to win the championship for the first time in 71 years since 1910.” He was actually quite shy and sometimes found it difficult to express his emotions. He learnt to relax.
Gary would sometimes phone me, unaware it was the middle of the night where I now live in Perth, Australia. He would apologise: “Oh, oh, sorry”. One time he called saying that his friend wanted to talk to me. “Gary, it’s three in the morning!”

I last saw Gary when I returned to England and did a question-and-answer session with him at the corporate lounges at Villa in October last year. He would joke about me being his minder. I’d like to think he had a lot of respect for me. Fans love to listen to our stories from a bygone era. There is one tale of the European Cup going missing after he took it to Tamworth’s Fox Inn to celebrate and for fans to take photographs. Colin Gibson and Cowans had been playing darts at the time. At closing time a man ran off with the cup and later a man with a cup walked into West Bar Green police station, Sheffield. They called West Midlands police, who initially said they were busy dealing with an emergency — a lost trophy. Once they realised it was the same incident, they went to fetch it.

Another story was of us pouring 26 bottles of champagne into the trophy the night we won. My wife, Kathy, wanted to have a sip and when I passed it to her, she nearly fell out of the hotel window into the canal below. I was hanging on to her and the cup.

Plenty of other tales were flung around when we met for a reunion to mark the 40th anniversary in 2022. I am returning from Australia for Wednesday’s match but it will feel different when we meet up this time. Like many, I cried when I heard that Gary had passed. He was the youngest member of the squad. Even now it is hard to think that he will not be with us on the pitch but the tributes from the stands to honour his life will be extra special.

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on October 02, 2024, 07:15:44 AM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.


A journalist tried to make the 100% record joke to Emery in the press conference and quickly wished he hadn’t. Unai didn’t appear to get it and looked like somebody had shat in his shoes.

That was a slightly awkward watch, wasn't it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on October 02, 2024, 07:42:58 AM
I'm going to the match with my son. He never thought he would see Villa play CL football and was gutted to think he would miss the games as he leaves for a year travelling on the 9th October. So glad to be at the game with him. Meeting on the M5. A three hour drive across Wales for me and even further for him travelling up from Cornwall. We wouldn't miss it for the world. Hopefully a very special night under the lights at Villa Park. I have a 100 % record of Villa against Bayern Munich so hopefully that continues tonight...6
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: algy on October 02, 2024, 07:45:49 AM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.

We're going to funeral them and send them back to Oktoberfest as a charred mess in a tupperware box.

Man up*






* at least those of you who are men.
This is the sort of attitude you want to see.

I don’t care how many Mickey Mouse European Cups they think they’ve won, how many German Cups they’ve lifted, how many times they’ve been “champions” of the bundesliga. They’ve only won them because they weren’t up against The Villa.

We’ll beat this bunch of lederhosen-wearing, mustard-licking, opera-composing lager louts - the same as we have done every other time we’ve played them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on October 02, 2024, 08:12:38 AM
I'm going to the match with my son. He never thought he would see Villa play CL football and was gutted to think he would miss the games as he leaves for a year travelling on the 9th October. So glad to be at the game with him. Meeting on the M5. A three hour drive across Wales for me and even further for him travelling up from Cornwall. We wouldn't miss it for the world. Hopefully a very special night under the lights at Villa Park. I have a 100 % record of Villa against Bayern Munich so hopefully that continues tonight...6

Lovely stuff, mate.

Have a belting time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 02, 2024, 08:18:54 AM
I don't think I've ever felt as excited about a game at Villa Park as this before. Eventually, this will all just be routine, but for today/tonight I want and will be swept up with the emotion. You have to treasure these moments. It feels so special.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 02, 2024, 08:22:13 AM
What do the Bayern boardies think of us, for those who skulk on rival forums (BV, Dave?)?

I think you meant research rather than skulk. Anyway not much game chat yet, just that it should be a fun trip to Birmingham and "es ist voller Möpse, Muschi und der Villa", which I'm waiting on Proprosition Joe to translate.

Ha! Just catching up with this thread. I don't think it needs translating :) , but does it (the original) actually still get sung these days? I haven't been for years.

As for the game today I will have to admit cowardice and hope we put in a respectable performance and don't get thrashed. Luckily tomorrow is a public holiday so I won't have to walk past all the gloating newspaper stands if the worse happens.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 02, 2024, 08:28:53 AM
From the official Bayern Twitter

"✨ Tommy and his gang have arrived in 𝑩𝒊𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒉𝒂𝒎 . ✨"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY03doGWMAEZK_Q?format=jpg&name=900x900)

They deserve firing into the sun for that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: john e on October 02, 2024, 08:32:00 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/yQmsZjD/b2c1fe99-032d-4731-ad3e-acc491160764.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQmsZjD)

Last name on our squad list.


My wife just asked me if I was crying
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 02, 2024, 08:36:09 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/yQmsZjD/b2c1fe99-032d-4731-ad3e-acc491160764.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yQmsZjD)

Last name on our squad list.


My wife just asked me if I was crying

For all the off field criticism they face - this is a real nice touch.

On the pitch we can match anyone - i just hope the overall occasion does not beat us.

Come on lads - do this for Gary (will someone close that window)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on October 02, 2024, 08:42:33 AM
Just think how many of our local haters will be tuning in to hopefully see us fail.

Everywhere from Leicester to Wolfs to Cov to the bitter birds to the local dog shitters all praying we lose.

Just remember they would part with vital organs just to have one night like this in their pathetic lives - and we have a total of 8 of them.

Lets really raise the roof like never before to show these jealous twats what a real support looks and sounds like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on October 02, 2024, 08:47:18 AM
Yeah, I had a dream about Olympiacos last night, woke up for a piss, only to have another dream.aboit not bothering to go and checking the score and we'd lost 0-2. Was glad when my alarm went off. FTF
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Towser on October 02, 2024, 09:02:05 AM
Just think how many of our local haters will be tuning in to hopefully see us fail.

Everywhere from Leicester to Wolfs to Cov to the bitter birds to the local dog shitters all praying we lose.

Just remember they would part with vital organs just to have one night like this in their pathetic lives - and we have a total of 8 of them.

Lets really raise the roof like never before to show these jealous twats what a real support looks and sounds like.
Already started where I work in Wolverhampton, all the tescos and dingles that populate the shop floor met me with a "come on Munich tonight"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on October 02, 2024, 09:07:27 AM
We play better against the better teams and particularly those that come for a game so simple message….bring it on!

You look down their squad list on the back of the programme and we are going to see some serious players but we aren’t too shabby either…bring it on!

Can’t see any scenario where Konsa doesn’t play right back to try and combat the threat of Davies down the left but we need Bailey on it to give him some problems in his defensive role also…bring it on!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 02, 2024, 09:30:59 AM
Christ, get a fucking grip.

We've got a 100% record against these absolute chumps.


A journalist tried to make the 100% record joke to Emery in the press conference and quickly wished he hadn’t. Unai didn’t appear to get it and looked like somebody had shat in his shoes.

That was a slightly awkward watch, wasn't it.

100% buddy. Good to see you back
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 02, 2024, 09:39:16 AM
BBC News - Aston Villa: The night the underdogs beat Bayern Munich became European champions in 1982 - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crejqw34r3xo
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 02, 2024, 09:45:34 AM
I'm just seeing tonight as a bit of a 'free hit' really with the opportunity to see one of the biggest clubs in the world play at Villa Park. 

I would like to see us progress from the league stage of the competition, but I think results in the other games will determine that.  Tonight is a one off shot at one of the big boys in our own backyard. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smithy on October 02, 2024, 10:04:03 AM
I'm just seeing tonight as a bit of a 'free hit' really with the opportunity to see one of the biggest clubs in the world play at Villa Park. 

I would like to see us progress from the league stage of the competition, but I think results in the other games will determine that.  Tonight is a one off shot at one of the big boys in our own backyard. 

Yep, this is one of half a dozen teams in the competition with realistic ambitions to win the whole thing. A genuinely elite European side. At Villa Park (*shivers*). 

A win would be incredible, but I'd take a draw and a positive performance all day long. I want to look like we belong at this level. I want other fans to realise we DO belong at this level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on October 02, 2024, 10:05:57 AM
Couldn't afford a ticket (thanks Mr Heck!), so I'll be at home listening to WM radio with a smelly autumnal candle on the go listening to Thommo's dulcet tones. I'll be lighting an extra little one for Gary Shaw before kick off.

Have a brilliant evening to those who are going. Should be an unforgettable night for the club: looks like it won't be raining (!).

Going for a Desmond. Ollie to score again.

UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 02, 2024, 10:10:20 AM
To everyone who is going enjoy a night of history.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on October 02, 2024, 10:57:04 AM
I had a dream last night that we won 2-1. Ollie scored in the first half, Kimmich equalised early in the second, and Mings scored the winner on 72 minutes.

So complete nonsense.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 02, 2024, 11:05:31 AM
I wish I dreamed about football matches. All I get is having to push whales back into the sea or having to shag an OAP out of awkwardness.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on October 02, 2024, 11:09:03 AM
From the official Bayern Twitter

"✨ Tommy and his gang have arrived in 𝑩𝒊𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒉𝒂𝒎 . ✨"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY03doGWMAEZK_Q?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Looks more Doctor Who than Peaky Blinders
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on October 02, 2024, 11:30:57 AM
I have a physical season ticket .The club have emailed me a ticket for tonights game to add to a wallet . Anyone in the same boat. I assumed the ticket would be loaded onto the card (pretty sure it won't be now , given the cock up so far this season). Don't fancy pissing around in the queue and missing kickoff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 02, 2024, 11:31:51 AM
 I like this... (https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1841409286427083062?t=e8XLVGhtbSx31zzXScMrUQ&s=19)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: LeeS on October 02, 2024, 11:41:56 AM
I like this... (https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1841409286427083062?t=e8XLVGhtbSx31zzXScMrUQ&s=19)

*shivers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 02, 2024, 11:42:29 AM
I like this... (https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1841409286427083062?t=e8XLVGhtbSx31zzXScMrUQ&s=19)




more bloody tears
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 11:51:29 AM
From the official Bayern Twitter

"✨ Tommy and his gang have arrived in 𝑩𝒊𝒓𝒎𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒉𝒂𝒎 . ✨"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY03doGWMAEZK_Q?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Very nose like
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on October 02, 2024, 11:56:43 AM
The game that will be talked about until we win our second European Cup.

Villa win 3-2.... with the winning goal at the death.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 02, 2024, 12:02:05 PM
I have a physical season ticket .The club have emailed me a ticket for tonights game to add to a wallet . Anyone in the same boat. I assumed the ticket would be loaded onto the card (pretty sure it won't be now , given the cock up so far this season). Don't fancy pissing around in the queue and missing kickoff.

I'm not a season ticket holder but I got this text earlier.

"Season tickets will not be active for our match against Bayern Munich tonight.
 ALL tickets are digital and available to download to Apple or Google Wallet for NFC entry.
 Collections are not available.
Get match-ready: w.ems.to/Z4iTFVl"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on October 02, 2024, 12:15:24 PM
I am really nervous not about the game just about not getting a pasting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 02, 2024, 12:19:20 PM
I am really nervous not about the game just about not getting a pasting.

Yeah that Dortmund-Celtic game got me all spooked I must say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: littleoldme on October 02, 2024, 12:21:54 PM
I am really nervous not about the game just about not getting a pasting.
Same, the sort of game that can go some way to making/ breaking the rest of the season, we really do need to get something positive from tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 02, 2024, 12:24:15 PM
Just as our fans abroad head for the nearest Irish or English looking pub do you think Bayern fans will amass inside and outside Albert's Schloss this afternoon?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 02, 2024, 12:27:21 PM
Just as our fans abroad head for the nearest Irish or English looking pub do you think Bayern fans will amass inside and outside Albert's Schloss this afternoon?

What with Liverpool-Bologna and Juve playing at the same time I've got no chance of getting the game on a screen here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on October 02, 2024, 12:28:38 PM
Just as our fans abroad head for the nearest Irish or English looking pub do you think Bayern fans will amass inside and outside Albert's Schloss this afternoon?
Nien
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on October 02, 2024, 12:36:49 PM
Thought I saw Thomas Muller in Town, on closer inspection and a quick Google it turned out to be his brother.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on October 02, 2024, 12:36:59 PM
Is the Bierkeller still open or did it shut in something like 1995 and no-one told me?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on October 02, 2024, 12:42:26 PM
Can't wait for KO, if somebody had told me, after the Fulham debacle on 20 Oct 22, we would be playing Bayern Munich at VP in the CL in less than 2 years time, I would have told them to get an appointment urgently with a doctor, a massive thank to you Unai, for making the impossible happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on October 02, 2024, 12:43:59 PM
With Liverpool playing I have no chance of watching it even here in Oxfordshire.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 02, 2024, 12:57:29 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 02, 2024, 12:58:17 PM
OK, so how many of you are going to take one for the H&V team and watch Leipzig v Juve instead, for scouting purposes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 02, 2024, 12:59:10 PM
On this very date six years ago, an Aston Villa fan decided to vent his frustrations at his side's 3-3 draw with Preston by throwing a cabbage at the then-Villa boss Steve Bruce.

After the incident Bruce said that he felt all the decisions he had made during that campaign had been "questioned" by fans and that what he had "witnessed in the stadium was not right".

"The guy who is being questioned, unfortunately, it sums up the society we are in at the moment. There's no respect for anyone," said Bruce.

"I find the whole thing hugely disrespectful."

He added: "The one thing I've always had is the determination to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in. I'll always have a go."

Villa found themselves 12th in the Championship table having won only one of their last nine league games.

Six years on, they are tonight preparing for their first Champions League match on home soil since the 1982-83 quarter-finals against Juventus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on October 02, 2024, 12:59:43 PM
Just went to the shop and the guy serving me, he barely usually looks up, asked me if I was going to the game - I had my Villa top on. I said yeah and he looked excited for me. Said he thinks we’ll win 2-1, with goals from Tielemans and Watkins.

So there you have it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 02, 2024, 01:12:25 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on October 02, 2024, 01:13:08 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

They might make it in time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on October 02, 2024, 01:15:10 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.
German trains are worse.  I kid you not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 01:17:56 PM
I am really nervous not about the game just about not getting a pasting.
Konsa RB, Carlos CB, what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 02, 2024, 01:18:19 PM
On this very date six years ago, an Aston Villa fan decided to vent his frustrations at his side's 3-3 draw with Preston by throwing a cabbage at the then-Villa boss Steve Bruce.

After the incident Bruce said that he felt all the decisions he had made during that campaign had been "questioned" by fans and that what he had "witnessed in the stadium was not right".

"The guy who is being questioned, unfortunately, it sums up the society we are in at the moment. There's no respect for anyone," said Bruce.

"I find the whole thing hugely disrespectful."

He added: "The one thing I've always had is the determination to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in. I'll always have a go."

Villa found themselves 12th in the Championship table having won only one of their last nine league games.

Six years on, they are tonight preparing for their first Champions League match on home soil since the 1982-83 quarter-finals against Juventus.

Glen Whelan's part is so underrated. Had he converted the penalty that night, Bruce may have still been at the club for a few more weeks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on October 02, 2024, 01:18:48 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

Yeah coz Deutsche Bahn is laugh a minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on October 02, 2024, 01:18:50 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.
That's a myth.  I've spent plenty of time waiting for German trains to depart or arrive on time. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 02, 2024, 01:20:13 PM
Just went to the shop and the guy serving me, he barely usually looks up, asked me if I was going to the game - I had my Villa top on. I said yeah and he looked excited for me. Said he thinks we’ll win 2-1, with goals from Tielemans and Watkins.

So there you have it.
Did he have 8 arms or a snout like an African elephant?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 02, 2024, 01:24:37 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.
That's a myth.  I've spent plenty of time waiting for German trains to depart or arrive on time. 
 
It's not a myth that British trains are an abomination, but German trains have got, especially with respect to punctuality, much much worse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 02, 2024, 01:35:31 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

When i was there - both german and Austrian train services were far superior to ours. We must be a bit of a laughing stock for that to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on October 02, 2024, 01:42:39 PM
Just had a look at the Brum Mail ahead of the match and they really are a shower, awful rag.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on October 02, 2024, 01:44:26 PM
On this very date six years ago, an Aston Villa fan decided to vent his frustrations at his side's 3-3 draw with Preston by throwing a cabbage at the then-Villa boss Steve Bruce.

After the incident Bruce said that he felt all the decisions he had made during that campaign had been "questioned" by fans and that what he had "witnessed in the stadium was not right".

"The guy who is being questioned, unfortunately, it sums up the society we are in at the moment. There's no respect for anyone," said Bruce.

"I find the whole thing hugely disrespectful."

He added: "The one thing I've always had is the determination to roll up my sleeves and get stuck in. I'll always have a go."

Villa found themselves 12th in the Championship table having won only one of their last nine league games.

Six years on, they are tonight preparing for their first Champions League match on home soil since the 1982-83 quarter-finals against Juventus.
The fact those dates correlate are mad. What a comparison

Im starting to feel a bit queasy with nerves and excitement
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bully2345 on October 02, 2024, 01:51:55 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

German trains got a pasting during the Euros so I'm sure it's making them feel at home. They're not what they used to be

When i was there - both german and Austrian train services were far superior to ours. We must be a bit of a laughing stock for that to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on October 02, 2024, 01:58:50 PM
Just had a look at the Brum Mail ahead of the match and they really are a shower, awful rag.

Won't they get behind us?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 02:12:42 PM
Well it's fascinating reading the thread and I'm enjoying catching up with all the pre match posts. Getting a real feel. The level of excitement is certainly being felt! I
I know my enthusiasm and anticipation is off the scale!

For me, having watched and followed Champions League football, seeing my own team Champions league is quite amazing.
Personally, as a football fan, it's great to see Villa against players I like and admire like Alphonso Davis, Kimmich, and Musiala. Even though that's somewhat exciting, I'm not confused with reality and I'd rather none of them provide any excitement or perform!

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 02:13:19 PM

Of course the occasion and Bayern Munich match is special for each of us for various reasons. I appreciate the elders, the regulars, and all those members here who watched or remember the Euro final in 1982, and I can only image how fantastic this is, as well as honouring all those who followed us in the lower divisions (years before the championship) and during times that were considered bleak.

It's 2024, and it's far from bleak whatever the result!
I truly just want everyone to feel the moment , enjoy it if possible, and privileges to support our club on this very occasion tonight.

Up The Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nev on October 02, 2024, 02:17:34 PM
I'm strangely underwhelmed at the moment, I was more enamoured when the draw was made. I think it's a combination of the recent weather, a heavy cold and being in close proximity to various members of the T**y Party over the last few days.

I hope it's all a precursor to a memorable night, I'm sure a few pints in Town and the walk up to the ground will get me going. No doubt the tribute to the lads from '82 will have me all unnecessary.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 02:20:05 PM
Just need to go out and play the game , not the occasion.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2024, 02:24:06 PM
In Brum, just got train down from Mancland, where I have been last few days some, glum faces around Piccadilly when I arrived Sunday.
Met some Irish fellows at reception over for the game.
Working out where and when to have my first beer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: trinityoap on October 02, 2024, 02:25:01 PM
My son is coming with me to this one. Last time we played them his mother would not let me take him suggesting that as he was only eight weeks old he was too young. I have tried on my 1982 European Cup Final shirt which seems to have shrunk but I am determined to wear it. As has been mentioned we are in this competition on merit. Many who were there in 1982 are now HEITS. Do it for them. Many will be there tonight who  have never seen us win anything but have kept the faith. Do it for them.Most of all do it because we are Aston Villa.VTID.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2024, 02:28:32 PM
Big decisions regarding the team and set up,  same starting x1 from Sunday? I hope not.
I really hope Emery has got something up his sleeve to sort out our defensive vulnerability..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 02:41:17 PM
Big decisions regarding the team and set up,  same starting x1 from Sunday? I hope not.
I really hope Emery has got something up his sleeve to sort out our defensive vulnerability..


Barkley must play for me. To help the midfield and defence even if he plays further forward need 3 midfielders two to sit.
Those that came off v Ipswich: Rogers, Tielemans, Watkins, Digne and Bailey I think are definitely starting tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on October 02, 2024, 03:05:06 PM
I have a physical season ticket .The club have emailed me a ticket for tonights game to add to a wallet . Anyone in the same boat. I assumed the ticket would be loaded onto the card (pretty sure it won't be now , given the cock up so far this season). Don't fancy pissing around in the queue and missing kickoff.

I'm not a season ticket holder but I got this text earlier.

"Season tickets will not be active for our match against Bayern Munich tonight.
 ALL tickets are digital and available to download to Apple or Google Wallet for NFC entry.
 Collections are not available.
Get match-ready: w.ems.to/Z4iTFVl"

Thanks
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on October 02, 2024, 03:09:06 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

Ha, they can talk. Deutsche Bahn is a disaster these days. If you are travelling for any event here, like a concert or job interview, you can never, ever take a train on the same day as that event.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on October 02, 2024, 03:18:59 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

Ha, they can talk. Deutsche Bahn is a disaster these days. If you are travelling for any event here, like a concert or job interview, you can never, ever take a train on the same day as that event.

Fecking too right.  It took me over an hour and a half to get from the centre of Berlin to the airport a few months ago.  Cancellations and trains randomly terminating is worse then here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: German James on October 02, 2024, 03:19:39 PM
Ha, they can talk. Deutsche Bahn is a disaster these days. If you are travelling for any event here, like a concert or job interview, you can never, ever take a train on the same day as that event.
Roger that. Although German trains tend to be less shabby. Still, that's not much consolation when you're stuck at Aachen at 10:30 at night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 03:22:57 PM
I'm strangely underwhelmed at the moment, I was more enamoured when the draw was made. I think it's a combination of the recent weather, a heavy cold and being in close proximity to various members of the T**y Party over the last few days.

I hope it's all a precursor to a memorable night, I'm sure a few pints in Town and the walk up to the ground will get me going. No doubt the tribute to the lads from '82 will have me all unnecessary.

All the best for rest of day and the occasion!
Feel better soon too! A victory will help!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2024, 03:55:53 PM
Big decisions regarding the team and set up,  same starting x1 from Sunday? I hope not.
I really hope Emery has got something up his sleeve to sort out our defensive vulnerability..


Barkley must play for me. To help the midfield and defence even if he plays further forward need 3 midfielders two to sit.
Those that came off v Ipswich: Rogers, Tielemans, Watkins, Digne and Bailey I think are definitely starting tonight.
Mussiala Kimmich Kane Olise Gorezka Sane is what we are up against.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: algy on October 02, 2024, 03:59:52 PM
Ha, they can talk. Deutsche Bahn is a disaster these days. If you are travelling for any event here, like a concert or job interview, you can never, ever take a train on the same day as that event.
Roger that. Although German trains tend to be less shabby. Still, that's not much consolation when you're stuck at Aachen at 10:30 at night.
One thing I would say is the food on DB trains is bloody lovely.

Your ideal railway, in my mind, you'd have the Swiss running the whole thing, but get DB to do the catering.  And you'd get the Dutch working on turning that in to an integrated transport network, that was bloody incredible in the summer - 4min connection from bus to rail on the way back with 3 kids and loads of bags, and it wasn't even vaguely stressful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on October 02, 2024, 04:07:16 PM
Wait till they get off the train, half an hour late, just in time to join the queue to get into our ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 02, 2024, 04:07:18 PM
Mussiala Kimmich Kane Olise Gorezka Sane is what we are up against.
Watched them all against Leverkusen, no worries.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on October 02, 2024, 04:11:10 PM
Hoping to God there is no Diego Carlos in that starting line-up, or if he must be included, hopefully it is the one who turns up for the Arsenal games.

Simply put, if Konsa is at RB - No chance tonight whatsoever. If he's in the middle, there is hope!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 04:21:22 PM
Mussiala Kimmich Kane Olise Gorezka Sane is what we are up against.
Watched them all against Leverkusen, no worries.

I hope they play Palhinha he's a sending off waiting to happen.
Certainly gets cards.

On ref: Radu Petrescu is the official from Romanian.
Overall in 8 matches he's been in charge this season he has shown 32 cards
So that's an average of 4 a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Footy-Vill on October 02, 2024, 04:22:16 PM
Hoping to God there is no Diego Carlos in that starting line-up, or if he must be included, hopefully it is the one who turns up for the Arsenal games.

Simply put, if Konsa is at RB - No chance tonight whatsoever. If he's in the middle, there is hope!
Whoever is up against Davis and Gnaby at right back they need support from midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 02, 2024, 04:36:43 PM
Random question. My lad is in Bristol does anyone have any suggestions for where to watch the game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bernie on October 02, 2024, 04:40:50 PM
Random question. My lad is in Bristol does anyone have any suggestions for where to watch the game?
I believe Bristol Villa fans often meet at Allstars on Park Street to watch games. Check it out though, don't take my word for it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on October 02, 2024, 04:41:45 PM
Currently sat in a car park in Crewe waiting for AV82EC Jnr before putting ourselves in the hands of the M6. He’s had 20 years of mostly utter shite and him and his generation deserve every fucking minute of this. Up the Villa and FTF.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave on October 02, 2024, 04:43:01 PM
Random question. My lad is in Bristol does anyone have any suggestions for where to watch the game?

I'm by no means an expert, but I watched the Champions League final in 2012 in Green House at the bottom of College Green - which involved Bayern losing to an English side in the Champions League. So if he's a fan of omens... Pretty standard sports bar, nothing fancy.

I watched the Arsenal game this season in the Birkett Tap, which seemed fine. Loads of screens. Fewer positive omens to report though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 02, 2024, 04:58:48 PM
On the train from Leicester to Brum with a load of Bayern fans. Guess they may have flown in to East Midlands?

Stansted apparently. They quite rightly, are extremely unimpressed with British trains. Let’s hope their day doesn’t get any better.

When i was there - both german and Austrian train services were far superior to ours. We must be a bit of a laughing stock for that to them
Laughing rolling stock even.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on October 02, 2024, 04:59:42 PM
Any update on whether Kane is fit or not?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 05:02:58 PM
Any update on whether Kane is fit or not?

He was training with the team yesterday so I'll be surprised if he doesn't play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on October 02, 2024, 05:03:38 PM
Ah well, it's not like they're a one man team anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 05:05:10 PM
Hopefully Eric Dyer gets a run out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: AV84 on October 02, 2024, 05:05:37 PM
I'm forced to listen to the radio at work and on all the news/sport bulletins today they were really bigging up our game tonight. The others got a mention but they were really selling the 40 year wait for a home CL tie, and the relevance of our opponents. Made me a little giddy, I must say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 05:07:37 PM
Can't wait for KO, if somebody had told me, after the Fulham debacle on 20 Oct 22, we would be playing Bayern Munich at VP in the CL in less than 2 years time, I would have told them to get an appointment urgently with a doctor, a massive thank to you Unai, for making the impossible happen.

I said that we would in the post-match thread but the mods moved it to What's wrong with you?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 05:10:31 PM
I'm forced to listen to the radio at work and on all the news/sport bulletins today they were really bigging up our game tonight. The others got a mention but they were really selling the 40 year wait for a home CL tie, and the relevance of our opponents. Made me a little giddy, I must say.

H&V favourite Dan Bardell was interviewed on BBC News earlier.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 02, 2024, 05:15:54 PM
Hopefully Eric Dyer gets a run out

Hope not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 05:21:40 PM
I'm forced to listen to the radio at work and on all the news/sport bulletins today they were really bigging up our game tonight. The others got a mention but they were really selling the 40 year wait for a home CL tie, and the relevance of our opponents. Made me a little giddy, I must say.

H&V favourite Dan Bardell was interviewed on BBC News earlier.
who
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on October 02, 2024, 05:32:10 PM
Wes edens in the house !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on October 02, 2024, 05:35:14 PM
I’m amazed that Pau and Konsa are considered a strong pairing in central defence, despite the evidence.

Its certainly stronger than pau and carlos

Evidence?

You certainly can’t point to goals conceded. Even this season. Never mind last, when it was overwhelmingly in favour of Pau/Carlos.

I’d have thought the amount of goals conceded was quite an important metric for centre-back pairings. Seems not for a lot of people.

You need evidence? Have you not seen the disaster that is konsa at roght back and carlos at cb?

Well, as a matter of statistical fact, the Konsa/Carlos/Pau/Digne defence is the best one for keeping goals out, I’d like to see evidence to the contrary. We’re all bemoaning the lack of clean sheets - I think the last three were Tou g Boys away, Arsenal away and Wolves at home last season. Anyone want to guess who was playing centre-half and right-back for 2 and a half of this games?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 02, 2024, 05:36:56 PM
Random question. My lad is in Bristol does anyone have any suggestions for where to watch the game?


Try any pub with a TV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on October 02, 2024, 06:09:09 PM
Join Kate Tracey, Alan McInally & Ahmed Elmohamady pitchside as they preview Aston Villa v Bayern Munich in the UEFA Champions League.


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 06:09:11 PM
Tonight's match odds with PP.

Villa win : 7/2
Draw : 16/5
Bayern win : 13/20

I'd say most neutrals would view a draw or better as a very good result. Hopefully the significance of the game will give us a little extra edge.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on October 02, 2024, 06:11:16 PM
Not the most important match in 40 years but perhaps the biggest occasion. Can’t bloody wait.

Do us and the boys of ‘82 proud Villa.

Envious of those attending, help make it a night to remember. VTID.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 06:13:03 PM
If we had McGinn Mings Kamara and Cash out there tonight I'd be confident of a home win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 06:13:54 PM
Not the most important match in 40 years but perhaps the biggest occasion. Can’t bloody wait.

Do us and the boys of ‘82 proud Villa.

Envious of those attending, help make it a night to remember. VTID.

Nicely summed up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on October 02, 2024, 06:19:06 PM
Tonight's match odds with PP.

Villa win : 7/2
Draw : 16/5
Bayern win : 13/20

I'd say most neutrals would view a draw or better as a very good result. Hopefully the significance of the game will give us a little extra edge.

We are overpriced. Are Bayern better (or even as good as) than Man City or Arsenal? Both of whom we beat at home last season, and were only Watkins missing sitters away from beating Arsenal this season.

We wouldn't be as big a price against them or Liverpool and I'd say all 3 are at the very least as good as Bayern
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on October 02, 2024, 06:27:43 PM
Random question. My lad is in Bristol does anyone have any suggestions for where to watch the game?


Try any pub with a TV

Not massively helpful, as 'any pub with a TV' showing football in Bristol tonight will likely be tuned to tonight's games involving Liverpool or Bristol City,  so what will be needed is a pub with at least three screens able to show multiple games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on October 02, 2024, 06:33:50 PM
Didn't chipsticks create a whatsapp group for Bristol based Villa fans , they would know where surely
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: coreyfeldman on October 02, 2024, 06:35:21 PM
any potential places for rivers and trickles would be helpful thank yooou
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 06:39:15 PM
any potential places for rivers and trickles would be helpful thank yooou

It's on VM2 in Ireland if you have a VPN. https://play.virginmediatelevision.ie/live/1241?date=2024-10-02
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 02, 2024, 06:45:13 PM
Prince William on his way and has arrived in Brum. Get there early to hear both the Champions League and national anthems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: aldridgeboy on October 02, 2024, 06:50:14 PM
Yay. A free flag !!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Bayern Munich Pre Match Thread
Post by: The General on October 02, 2024, 07:53:34 PM
Philogene in for Bailey.  Bailey is in the team.
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