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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2024, 05:13:21 PM
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The draw for the 3rd round is this Wednesday evening after the 2nd round games finish.
We will play on Wednesday 25th September (so between European Cup games 1 and 2 the previous and following midweeks).
https://www.efl.com/competitions/carabao-cup/
OK we would prefer to win one of the other 3 things we are in but it will be 50 years since The Grader scored on the rebound.
(https://i.ibb.co/rMfsXNn/1975-FA-Cup-Final-2.webp) (https://ibb.co/rMfsXNn)
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The draw for the 3rd round is this Wednesday evening after the 2nd round games finish.
We will play on Wednesday 25th September (so between European Cup games 1 and 2 the previous and following midweeks).
https://www.efl.com/competitions/carabao-cup/
OK we would prefer to win one of the other 3 things we are in but it will be 50 years since The Grader scored on the rebound.
(https://i.ibb.co/rMfsXNn/1975-FA-Cup-Final-2.webp) (https://ibb.co/rMfsXNn)
And big Jim held him on his shoulders.
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We could potentially have 4 home games in 10 days depending on the draws this week.
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Would love to win this (well anything really), buy can't see it being high on our list of priorities.
You never know, couple of favourable draws and before you now it, you're in the Quarters.
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Would love to win this (well anything really), buy can't see it being high on our list of priorities.
You never know, couple of favourable draws and before you now it, you're in the Quarters.
We will play a weakened team and go out in the 3rd/4th round.
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Would love to win this (well anything really), buy can't see it being high on our list of priorities.
You never know, couple of favourable draws and before you now it, you're in the Quarters.
We will play a weakened team and go out in the 3rd/4th round.
Yep thats how i see it
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I havent got enough points to get away league tickets for me and my lad, apart from the odd random ones that come up. So Id be happy with a winnable away game, e.g. anyone across the divisions apart from Man City.
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I can see us making it through to round 3.
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The year we reached the final we played weakened teams until the semis but they were good enough to beat other even more weakened teams (thinking Wolves and Liverpool). Even though I get annoyed when it seems like we chuck this competition, I can sort of understand the reasoning that pretty much everyone does and our reserves should be better than most other teams.
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Would love to win this (well anything really), buy can't see it being high on our list of priorities.
You never know, couple of favourable draws and before you now it, you're in the Quarters.
We will play a weakened team and go out in the 3rd/4th round.
Probably. Then again, a complete second XI is almost certainly a better team than the one that got to the final four years ago.
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Have they confirmed seeding yet? We can't draw a Europa League team but can we draw a Champions League team or will all European teams be kept apart?
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Answered my own question by Google.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/when-is-the-carabao-cup-draw-start-time-ball-numbers-tv-channel-third-round-b1178308.html
Seems like Champions League and Europa League teams will be seeded, but Conference League won't be so we can still get Chelsea.
Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
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With the current squad (when fit) we can put out a pretty decent league cup team. We need to try and win this.
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Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
Them and Stevenage.
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Already out, thankfully.
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Only five wins away from winning a trophy.
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I hope we take it seriously this season. We won't play full strength obviously (until the final)
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Answered my own question by Google.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/when-is-the-carabao-cup-draw-start-time-ball-numbers-tv-channel-third-round-b1178308.html
Seems like Champions League and Europa League teams will be seeded, but Conference League won't be so we can still get Chelsea.
Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
I don't agree with teams being seeded, even if it likely means an easier draw for us. We've already had a bye in the 2nd round so it's not really fair on the small teams like Blose and Newcastle.
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Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
Them and Stevenage.
I would lovw it if we drew them only ip the road from me. Gotta set the record straight too. Olsen 🤦♂️
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Answered my own question by Google.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/when-is-the-carabao-cup-draw-start-time-ball-numbers-tv-channel-third-round-b1178308.html
Seems like Champions League and Europa League teams will be seeded, but Conference League won't be so we can still get Chelsea.
Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
I don't agree with teams being seeded, even if it likely means an easier draw for us. We've already had a bye in the 2nd round so it's not really fair on the small teams like Blose and Newcastle.
You are right it’s not not really fair to blues but luckily they have found a way around that.
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Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
Them and Stevenage.
I would lovw it if we drew them only ip the road from me. Gotta set the record straight too. Olsen 🤦♂️
Nothing to do with Olsen. It was the full team on the night and Dendoncker in particular.
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Watford away is my prediction
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Sod it, I’ll guess Walsall.
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Barnsley away hopefully as easy to get to for me, but have a feeling it will be Everton away.
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Chelsea or Newcastle the teams to avoid, then.
Them and Stevenage.
I would lovw it if we drew them only ip the road from me. Gotta set the record straight too. Olsen 🤦♂️
Nothing to do with Olsen. It was the full team on the night and Dendoncker in particular.
Dendonker too i agree that mistake was dreadful but olsen was very crap for the first goal
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Watford away is my prediction
I was thinking yesterday that Watford away would be dreadful, so it will probably be them.
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Watford away is my prediction
I was thinking yesterday that Watford away would be dreadful, so it will probably be them.
Why dreadful?
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
We ain’t come as far as we think if we’re worrying about the likes of Watford. They’re on a bit of an up I believe so it would be a decent fixture in my book. We’ll probably get Barrow away again. Hope so.
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
We ain’t come as far as we think if we’re worrying about the likes of Watford. They’re on a bit of an up I believe so it would be a decent fixture in my book. We’ll probably get Barrow away again. Hope so.
We have an absymal record against Watford, particularly away. I went to our very first game there in 1969. A 3-0 defeat as the wheels came off under Tommy Doc, one of the very worst Villa performances I have ever seen.
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
We ain’t come as far as we think if we’re worrying about the likes of Watford. They’re on a bit of an up I believe so it would be a decent fixture in my book. We’ll probably get Barrow away again. Hope so.
Barrow would love it too, as we gave them all of the gate receipts last time. A fantastic gesture
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I have a feeling we get fulham
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I want Walsall or Blackpool at home.
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
Didn't we stop them getting promoted in the 70s?
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Think we'll be in the Southern Section, so won't be Barrow.
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Man Utd (A)
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We got knocked-out by Orient? FFS, when we die, will Villa supporters get a refund on the 2010s and be allowed to return to earth for the time that was stolen from them?
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Man Utd (A)
We cant draw them in this round
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Chelsea at home I reckon.
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Think we'll be in the Southern Section, so won't be Barrow.
It's no longer north and south in the 3rd round.
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In that case, I change my guess to Chelsea or Newcastle.
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Think we'll be in the Southern Section, so won't be Barrow.
It's no longer north and south in the 3rd round.
Oh, that makes it a bit more interesting.
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
We ain’t come as far as we think if we’re worrying about the likes of Watford. They’re on a bit of an up I believe so it would be a decent fixture in my book. We’ll probably get Barrow away again. Hope so.
Barrow would love it too, as we gave them all of the gate receipts last time. A fantastic gesture
Can you really see Chris Heck agreeing to that?
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Dull team, but one that usually beats us.
We ain’t come as far as we think if we’re worrying about the likes of Watford. They’re on a bit of an up I believe so it would be a decent fixture in my book. We’ll probably get Barrow away again. Hope so.
Barrow would love it too, as we gave them all of the gate receipts last time. A fantastic gesture
Can you really see Chris Heck agreeing to that?
God, no.
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
Didn't we stop them getting promoted in the 70s?
1973/74. Vic Crowes final game in charge.
Last game of the season on a Friday night. Carlisle were 2nd and had finished all their games on the Saturday easily beating us 2-0 at Brunton Park.
30,000 were in Brisbane Road and Orient just needed to win and they would be promoted. Our season had petered out into mid table obscurity and there was nothing on the game at all for us.
Villa battled like their lives depended on it and came away with a 1-1 draw.
Not many Villa fans there. The next day I had a ticket to watch one of the most one sided Cup Finals ever, Liverpool 3 Newcastle 0.
Carlisle were promoted and were top of the league after 5 games but still finished up getting relegated.
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Stevenage H
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
An awful awful match, highlighted or lowlighted by totally pitiful 14 minutes from Richards.
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That Orient LC game was one of the shittest i've ever been to. Me and my mate were virtually the only people in L2 and spent most of the game chatting about when we were younger as the game was so tedious. There was an element of relief when they scored the late winner as it meant we could go home rather than watch another half an hour of incompetence.
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
An awful awful match, highlighted or lowlighted by totally pitiful 14 minutes from Richards.
If I remember rightly we also lost 1-0 at Orient in 1974/75, one of the few defeats in the run in to promotion.
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
We don't deserve revenge.
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One of my worst experiences supporting Villa was a night match down at Selhurst park in the league cup I think it was against Wimbledon bloody cold and horrible we played shit and lost
Can’t remember the year and can’t be bothered to google, in fairness even some of the details might be wrong as I’ve tried to expunge it from my mind
it was one of those games where you look around at the desperation of it all and think ‘why am I here’
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Despite there being seedlings for none but the few I can almost guarantee you that Manure will be home to barrow which will be televised no matter what. To leave us away to Chelsea Newcastle or Brighton.
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I like the idea that we didn’t get knocked out in Rd2.
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I like the idea that we didn’t get knocked out in Rd2.
Forget CL football lets just finiahin 4th so we enter the carabao in the 3rd round
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I fancy Orient away. Revenge for 2014 - actually, 10 years ago this week.
Didn't we stop them getting promoted in the 70s?
1973/74. Vic Crowes final game in charge.
Last game of the season on a Friday night. Carlisle were 2nd and had finished all their games on the Saturday easily beating us 2-0 at Brunton Park.
30,000 were in Brisbane Road and Orient just needed to win and they would be promoted. Our season had petered out into mid table obscurity and there was nothing on the game at all for us.
Villa battled like their lives depended on it and came away with a 1-1 draw.
Not many Villa fans there. The next day I had a ticket to watch one of the most one sided Cup Finals ever, Liverpool 3 Newcastle 0.
Carlisle were promoted and were top of the league after 5 games but still finished up getting relegated.
I remember reading about this in the Daily Mirror the following morning.
They had a journalist sit in the stand at Brisbane Road with the Carlisle goalkeeper and his report described how the keeper was having kittens every time Orient attacked. I don’t remember too much else other than that he promised the reporter he was going to try to find Jim Cumbes to buy him a drink as apparently he was brilliant.
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Juat hope its not wolves. Dont fancy losing to them in the cup
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One of my worst experiences supporting Villa was a night match down at Selhurst park in the league cup I think it was against Wimbledon bloody cold and horrible we played shit and lost
Can’t remember the year and can’t be bothered to google, in fairness even some of the details might be wrong as I’ve tried to expunge it from my mind
it was one of those games where you look around at the desperation of it all and think ‘why am I here’
19922-93 was penalties in the fog. 1996-97 was played shit and lost.
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1 Arsenal
2 Aston Villa
3 Barnsley
4 Barrow
5 Blackpool
6 Bolton Wanderers
7 Brighton & Hove Albion
8 Chelsea
9 Coventry City
10 Crystal Palace
11 Everton
12 Fleetwood Town
13 Fulham
14 Leicester City
15 Leyton Orient
16 Liverpool
17 Manchester City
18 Manchester United
19 Preston North End
20 Queens Park Rangers
21 Sheffield Wednesday
22 Stoke City
23 Tottenham Hotspur
24 Walsall
25 Watford
26 AFC Wimbledon
27 Southampton
28 Brentford
29 Newcastle United
30 Wycombe Wanderers
31 West Ham United
32 Wolverhampton Wanderers
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Walsall at Villa Park please.
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Pens forest - newcastle
Come on forest
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Man U vs Man City won't happen that is for sure
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Two shocking penalties by Forest
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That just hit my window
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100% we are getting newcastle away
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I know we can’t get Man U in the draw but I expect us to get Man U away in the draw.
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Are Newcastle in the final now? Carrying on here like they've finally won something.
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Seems they already know if we will be home or away, just not the opponents.
Because there are rounds of Champions League and Europa League fixtures also scheduled for those two midweeks, the six clubs involved in those competitions - Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Manchester United - will be kept apart to ensure they can fulfil their Carabao Cup tie in the alternate midweek to their European fixture.
Those six clubs took part in a pre-draw before Forest v Newcastle to decide if they will be at home or away in the third round, with a main draw determining the 16 ties.
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Seems they already know if we will be home or away, just not the opponents.
Because there are rounds of Champions League and Europa League fixtures also scheduled for those two midweeks, the six clubs involved in those competitions - Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Manchester United - will be kept apart to ensure they can fulfil their Carabao Cup tie in the alternate midweek to their European fixture.
Those six clubs took part in a pre-draw before Forest v Newcastle to decide if they will be at home or away in the third round, with a main draw determining the 16 ties.
WTF is a pre draw
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Christ get on with it I want my bed.
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Are Newcastle in the final now? Carrying on here like they've finally won something.
Standby for the squad photo on X
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It'll be Chelsea away.
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Get on with it!
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Fcuking hell an interview
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Keeping teams apart and the rest a random draw......it's just not cricket
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No matter what happens, it’ll be Man Utd away
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"After the break we'll hear from Eddie Howe"
Get on with it I'm up at 5
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Southampton (H).
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It’ll be Newcastle away
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Southampton (H).
Happy with that.
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I just saw a post that might have been from Leej from the future. However the universe bounced back and deleted it.
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Man U away in this, then we will probably get them away in tomorrows CL draw too !
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Have we drawn Southampton?
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Man U away in this, then we will probably get them away in tomorrows CL draw too !
We've drawn them in the Birmingham Senior Cup as well.
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FFS get on with the draw.
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Have we drawn Southampton?
No.
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Have we drawn Southampton?
No. It's just what I would like to see. Totally random, of course.
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Ffs. Tarring and feathering Legion when we get Newcastle or Chelsea. 🥴
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FFS get on with the draw.
Where is it being shown?
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The first four Champions League/Europa League clubs to be picked in tonight's draw will play at home in the third round with the remaining two playing away.
How weird is this ?
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Guessing Sky as they had the live match.
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This wait is enough to drive a man to porn.
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FFS get on with the draw.
Where is it being shown?
Sky.
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FFS get on with the draw.
Where is it being shown?
It'll be on TV-am just before Roland Rat at this rate
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The first four Champions League/Europa League clubs to be picked in tonight's draw will play at home in the third round with the remaining two playing away.
How weird is this ?
So we're away then . Now just pull out Man Utd
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This wait is enough to drive a man to porn.
10 seconds?
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My battery is low waiting for this tripe to end.....do the draw ffs
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This wait is enough to drive a man to porn.
10 seconds?
5
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Makes me long for the days when the first I knew who'd we'd drawn in a cup was when I read it on the back page of the Evening Mail.
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Hurry up you ******.
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Ffs. Tarring and feathering Legion when we get Newcastle or Chelsea. 🥴
Rule of thumb following your time away:
If Legion posts and there's a tangential link to whoever Archer is currently playing for, then assume it's positive thinking rather than news.
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Here's a picture to look at while we wait.
(https://i.ibb.co/LNtJQrm/th-id-OIP-vz-Yf-KDHn-Um-Pgkvw-AXll-ATg-Ha-EK-w-500-h-715-c-7-dpr-1-8-pid-Img-Det-w-600-h-315-c-0-rs.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LNtJQrm)
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With our recent record, I’m not going to get too excited as to who we draw as, we’ll put out a weakened team and most probably go out. After that we’ll get the usual, this cup is not a priority for us, as if people believe we will win a more prestigious trophy. I won’t hold my breath on that one either.
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I'll ring clubcall in the morning.....off to bed
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Ffs. Tarring and feathering Legion when we get Newcastle or Chelsea. 🥴
Rule of thumb following your time away:
If Legion posts and there's a tangential link to whoever Archer is currently playing for, then assume it's positive thinking rather than news.
Yeah, I get it now. But an "I'd like to draw" would have been nice. ☹️
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They are probably rehearsing the draw order
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This wait is enough to drive a man to porn.
5 Live have moved on from sport and tonight's discussion is going to be on porngraphy. You're not the only one.
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They are probably rehearsing the draw order
Just like IFwaters, warming up the balls is more likely.
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Fun fact while waiting. Barrow are in the 3rd round for only the 3rd time. The last time was 1967/68. They've never made the 4th round.
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0898 12 11 48 Villa CLUBCALL
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Why does it take longer to organise 32 balls in a bag than it does to count thousands of votes in Sunderland on election night ?
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This wait is enough to drive a man to porn.
5 Live have moved on from sport and tonight's discussion is going to be on pyrography. You're not the only one.
Is that like a spirograph with coloured pens?
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Oooh we getting drawn and at home
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Off we go
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No watford thank god
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Liverpool vs West Ham
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Fun fact while waiting. Barrow are in the 3rd round for only the 3rd time. The last time was 1967/68. They've never made the 4th round.
How many of those intervening years were they not eligible on account of not being a Football League club?
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Wycombe v Aston Villa
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Man City vs Watford
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Seems we are away then.
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Wycombe v Aston Villa
Good draw
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Fucking away.
At least the bogs might be fixed
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Wycombe away
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Man U get a home draw. Who would have guessed that.
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Wycombe away. Good.
Go and sign someone now please.
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That'll do. No excuses.
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Are they pulling out all the european clubs first?
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Not a bad draw with all things considering
Tough one for spurs
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Walsall Leicester.
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Wycombe v Aston Villa
Good draw
Played these a few times haven't we.
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We've never played Wycombe away before, be it friendly or competitive, so that's nice.
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Wycombe away
The MON derby.
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Are they pulling out all the european clubs first?
They were with the first four being home matches and the last two being away matches.
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That'll do. Can we get Richards and Guzan back for another game of see how far you can spit your chewing gum?
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With our recent record, I’m not going to get too excited as to who we draw as, we’ll put out a weakened team and most probably go out.
As far as weakened teams go, a Villa side which included Nyland, Targett, Hause, Nakamba, Elmohamedy, Guilbert, El Ghazi, Samatta, Davis and Trezeguet got through the semi-final of this competition pretty recently.
So I'd hope the likes of Barkley, Ramsey, Maatsen, Buendia, Philogene et al won't just down tools if called upon.
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Hope it's not another 11 goal thriller.
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We return to scene of one of the less savoury days in fan-player relations.
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I'm gonna be so angry when we're three-one up at half-time and lose eight-three.
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We've never played Wycombe away before, be it friendly or competitive, so that's nice.
Errrrr?
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The game that launched the real hatred of Mr Fickle. Pug nosed twat.
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We've never played Wycombe away before, be it friendly or competitive, so that's nice.
Errrrr?
(Its called sarcasm)
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Are they pulling out all the european clubs first?
They were with the first four being home matches and the last two being away matches.
So its random between the 6 of us who is at home, and away - with a 2-1 chance of being home? And Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Man City got the home ones?
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Brighton v Wolves which is good.
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Decent draw but seems like all the likely winners pretty certain to get through. I suppose West Ham might give Liverpool a game depending on who rests the most players.
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Are they pulling out all the european clubs first?
They were with the first four being home matches and the last two being away matches.
So its random between the 6 of us who is at home, and away - with a 2-1 chance of being home? And Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Man City got the home ones?
Well dodgy that Man City got 2 home draws.
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Are they pulling out all the european clubs first?
They were with the first four being home matches and the last two being away matches.
So its random between the 6 of us who is at home, and away - with a 2-1 chance of being home? And Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Man City got the home ones?
Well dodgy that Man City got 2 home draws.
No wonder it took them so long to set it up
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Tom Cleverlys Watford , Gary Oneills Wolves . What a time to be alive
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Just googled 9558 capacity, wonder how many tickets we’ll get
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Liverpool v West Ham United
Manchester City v Watford
Arsenal v Bolton Wanderers
Manchester United v Barnsley
Wycombe Wanderers v Aston Villa
Coventry City v Tottenham Hotspur
Walsall v Leicester City
Brentford v Leyton Orient
Blackpool v Sheffield Wednesday
Preston North End v Fulham
Everton v Southampton
Queens Park Rangers v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Fleetwood Town
Brighton & Hove Albion v Wolverhampton Wanderers
AFC Wimbledon v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Barrow
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Was it just me, or did Les Ferdinand engineer Newcastle avoiding Chelsea right at the end of that draw?
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All the usual suspects getting home draws. We guarantee it’s not a fix M’Lord!!
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Been there a couple of times. That cup game and a freindly. Good draw.
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All the usual suspects getting home draws. We guarantee it’s not a fix M’Lord!!
I’ve just watched it. I don’t think it is.
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Liverpool v West Ham United**
Manchester City v Watford**
Arsenal v Bolton Wanderers**
Manchester United v Barnsley*
Wycombe Wanderers v Aston Villa**
Coventry City v Tottenham Hotspur*
Walsall v Leicester City
Brentford v Leyton Orient
Blackpool v Sheffield Wednesday
Preston North End v Fulham
Everton v Southampton
Queens Park Rangers v Crystal Palace
Stoke City v Fleetwood Town
Brighton & Hove Albion v Wolverhampton Wanderers
AFC Wimbledon v Newcastle United
Chelsea v Barrow
Thanks. Have amended so can work out likely TV games.
*Will be played week commencing 16th September
**Will be placed week commencing 23rd September
Remaining games could be played either week.
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We’ve never lost to Wycombe Wanderers. :-X
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Us and Spurs are a decent shout to be on TV as PL sides away to lower league sides. Walsall and Wimbledon are the others i'd choose. They'll probably choose boring games instead though.
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All the usual suspects getting home draws. We guarantee it’s not a fix M’Lord!!
I’ve just watched it. I don’t think it is.
Just imagine how angry The Powers That Be would have been if Man Utd had to deal with an away game at Barnsley instead of a home game. In the third round of the League Cup.
Probably best set up a massive, easily provable conspiracy to risk destroying the whole billion pound industry just to be on the safe side.
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Was it just me, or did Les Ferdinand engineer Newcastle avoiding Chelsea right at the end of that draw?
Les is not that clever, so it’s just you😀
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The League Cup has been won by a CL team for each of the last 10 years. Just saying…….
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Us and Spurs are a decent shout to be on TV as PL sides away to lower league sides. Walsall and Wimbledon are the others i'd choose. They'll probably choose boring games instead though.
Well Manure will take up one TV slot, how many more are there?
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The League has been won by a CL team for each of the last 10 years. Just saying…….
What about the league cup?
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Us and Spurs are a decent shout to be on TV as PL sides away to lower league sides. Walsall and Wimbledon are the others i'd choose. They'll probably choose boring games instead though.
Having gone to the trouble of working it out, I've just remembered they're all televised this year.
As for main games, I could just about understand choosing Liverpool vs West Ham. If they select any of the Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea ties they are boring as fuck. Which they definitely will because they are.
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What was the point of the draw when Newcastle have already won the trophy this year .
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As for main games, I could just about understand choosing Liverpool vs West Ham. If they select any of the Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea ties they are boring as fuck. Which they definitely will because they are.
According to the Beeb, "And that's the lot! Some huge ties in there. Chelsea v Barrow, Manchester United v Barnsley and AFC Wimbledon v Newcastle are some good ones."
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Well all that made me feel uneasy. Dawson could see the numbers there were only six balls he was given his directive during the break.
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Mark Chapmain even said "don't mess this up"
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The League has been won by a CL team for each of the last 10 years. Just saying…….
What about the league cup?
🤦🏾 yes of course.
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Reaction of the Wycombe players to the draw
https://x.com/keslerszn/status/1828913365739360501?s=46
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We not going to bother with this cup this season.
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Chelsea at home to the Dog and Duck yet again. How do they do it every single fucking time. Hmmmmm
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It's like the chess bead thing isn't it? As soon as they touch a lower league ball then bam! Vibrations. It's the only way.
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2 years ago Chelsea were drawn away to Man City in their first game in both domestic cups. They lost both.
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Now I know it may sound petty, well, it is I suppose but in the Twitter announcement they've changed the colour of the Wycombe badge to claret and white rather than their club colours. Just seems a bit disrespectful. Factor in the tunnel being grey, black and white now instead of our colours, someone in the design dept wants a boot up the hole.
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Us and Spurs are a decent shout to be on TV as PL sides away to lower league sides. Walsall and Wimbledon are the others i'd choose. They'll probably choose boring games instead though.
I thought they were showing all cup games this season?
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They are.
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West Ham had a good crowd in last night for a drab cup draw v Bournemouth
They charged £10 a ticket and kids for a quid
I know people take the piss out of this sort of stuff but I think it’s a great way of filling the stadium and giving loads of people a chance to go
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West Ham had a good crowd in last night for a drab cup draw v Bournemouth
They charged £10 a ticket and kids for a quid
I know people take the piss out of this sort of stuff but I think it’s a great way of filling the stadium and giving loads of people a chance to go
I'm not sure why anyone would take the piss, it's a fantastic initiative and a great way to encourage the next generation of fans.
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2 years ago Chelsea were drawn away to Man City in their first game in both domestic cups. They lost both.
A complete outier. Chelsea's 3rd round draws in both domestic cups over the last 20 odd years have been absolutey ridiculous. They have drawn lower league teams at home practically every season.
I can only find up to 2019 right now but this is just mental:
06/07
3rd Round- Chelsea 6-1 Macclesfield (league 2)
4th round- Chelsea 3-0 Nottingham Forest (league 1)
5th round- Chelsea 4-0 Norwich (Championship)
6th round- Chelsea 3-3 Spurs (prem)
07/08
3rd- Chelsea 1-0 QPR (championship)
4th- Wigan 1-2 Chelsea (prem)
5th- Chelsea 3-1 Huddersfield (league one)
6th- Barnsley 1-0 Chelsea (championship)
08/09
3rd Chelsea 1-1 Southend (league one)
4th Chelsea 3-1 Ipswich (championship)
5th - Watford 1-3 Chelsea (championship)
6th Coventry 0-2 Chelsea (championship)
09/10
3rd Chelsea 5-0 Watford (championship)
4th PNE 0-2 Chelsea (championship)
5th Chelsea 4-1 Coventry (championship)
6th Chelsea 2-0 Stoke (prem)
10/11
3rd Chelsea 7-0 Ipswich (championship)
4th Everton 1-1 Chelsea (prem)
11/12
3rd Chelsea 4-0 Pompey (championship)
4th QPR 0-1 Chelsea (prem)
5th Chelsea 1-1 Birmingham (championship)
6th Chelsea 5-2 Leicester (championship)
12/13
3rd Saints 1-5 Chelsea (prem)
4th Brentford 2-2 Chelsea (league one)
5th Boro 0-2 Chelsea (championship)
6th Man. United 2-2 Chelsea (prem)
13/14
3rd Derby 0-2 Chelsea (championship)
4th Chelsea 1-0 Stoke (prem)
5th Man. City 2-0 Chelsea (prem)
14/15
3rd Chelsea 3-0 Watford (champ)
4th Chelsea 2-4 Bradford (league one)
15/16
3rd Chelsea 2-0 Scunthorpe (league one)
4th Milton Keynes 1-5 Chelsea 5 (champ)
5th Chelsea 5-1 Man. City (prem)
6th Everton 2-0 Chelsea (prem)
16/17
3rd- Chelsea 4-1 Posh (league one)
4th- Chelsea 4-0 Brentford (champ)
5th Wolves 0-2 Chelsea (champ)
6th Chelsea 1-0 Man. United (prem)
17/18
Norwich 0-0 chelsea (champ)
Chelsea 3-0 Newcastle (prem)
Chelsea 4-0 Hull (champ)
Leicester 1-2 (prem)
18/19
3rd- Chelsea 2-0 Forest (champ)
4th v Sheff Weds/Luton (champ/league one)
TBC.....
From all that it's played P 34 and they've been at home first match on 26 occasions. Of that they've played a premier league team on 7 occasions.
A quick look at their forum and they are saying it's about time they got an easy draw after drawing Man City 2 years ago. Apparently they are "owed" years of luck.
Tossers.
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A complete outier. Chelsea's 3rd round draws in both domestic cups over the last 20 odd years have been absolutey ridiculous. They have drawn lower league teams at home practically every season.
I can only find up to 2019 right now but this is just mental...
It only is, if it's different compared to other clubs. I imagine that if you laid out the data for any club that has been successful over the last twenty years there will probably be quite a lot of them beating lower league clubs and not many games against teams of a comparable size.
As for us, we'd probably have a much greater set of data to work from had we not got knocked out over the same time period that you quote by Burton Albion in round two, Middlesbrough in round three, Luton in round one, Leyton Orient in round two, Bolton in round three, QPR in round three...
etc.
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West Ham had a good crowd in last night for a drab cup draw v Bournemouth
They charged £10 a ticket and kids for a quid
I know people take the piss out of this sort of stuff but I think it’s a great way of filling the stadium and giving loads of people a chance to go
and snacks and chance to go the shop , its a great idea.
that champions league team thing in the draw was very odd. Giving them home fixtures.
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I'm assuming it was because the easiest way of stopping them playing each other was to separate their balls.
So if you are going to pull them out first, you have to have a random way of decided who is home and who is away.
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West Ham had a good crowd in last night for a drab cup draw v Bournemouth
They charged £10 a ticket and kids for a quid
I know people take the piss out of this sort of stuff but I think it’s a great way of filling the stadium and giving loads of people a chance to go
Someone should of told the dog shitters about low costs to boost crowds................oh they did
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A complete outier. Chelsea's 3rd round draws in both domestic cups over the last 20 odd years have been absolutey ridiculous. They have drawn lower league teams at home practically every season.
We've drawn loads of lower league sides, difference is we keep losing to them so don't get the chance for further 'easy' draws.
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There's no doubt that Chelsea have had an incredible number of easy home ties in FA Cup Third Rounds. Doesn't excuse the number of times we've lost to absolute shite and that we virtually never punch above our weight. Not counting when teams played their reserves/kids, we've won one game against higher-ranked opposition in all domestic cup competitions since 2015.
In the same time we've lost to Luton, Burton, Stoke, Peterborough, Fulham and Stevenage.
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I'm assuming it was because the easiest way of stopping them playing each other was to separate their balls.
So if you are going to pull them out first, you have to have a random way of decided who is home and who is away.
The BBC mentioned a pre-draw for home and away. I thought they were doing it by team but instead I think they drew a number out (1-6) and then drew something to see if they got home or away. 1-4 were drawn home, 5-6 were drawn away.
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There's no doubt that Chelsea have had an incredible number of easy home ties in FA Cup Third Rounds. Doesn't excuse the number of times we've lost to absolute shite and that we virtually never punch above our weight. Not counting when teams played their reserves/kids, we've won one game against higher-ranked opposition in all domestic cup competitions since 2015.
Three cup finals in fifteen years isn't too shabby, considering how god-awful we've been for much of the last ten of them. It just tends to be all* or nothing. Very few fifth rounds / quarter / semi finals. Just out straight away or a run to the final.
*well, not quite all. Obviously. Given we lost them all.
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We are still the team to have been to the most cup finals this century and not won any of them.
Aside from us, only Cardiff and Southampton have been to more than one final and not won any of them (two a piece).
We are joint 15th for win% in cup finals this century (0%), just behind someone called Spurs(?) who have a paltry 16.7% win ratio - lagging as they do behind such teams as Wigan, blues, Boro, Portsmouth, West Ham, Swansea, and Blackburn Rovers.
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There's no doubt that Chelsea have had an incredible number of easy home ties in FA Cup Third Rounds. Doesn't excuse the number of times we've lost to absolute shite and that we virtually never punch above our weight. Not counting when teams played their reserves/kids, we've won one game against higher-ranked opposition in all domestic cup competitions since 2015.
In the same time we've lost to Luton, Burton, Stoke, Peterborough, Fulham and Stevenage.
To be fair, most of them were better than us.
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We are still the team to have been to the most cup finals this century and not won any of them.
Aside from us, only Cardiff and Southampton have been to more than one final and not won any of them (two a piece).
We are joint 15th for win% in cup finals this century (0%), just behind someone called Spurs(?) who have a paltry 16.7% win ratio - lagging as they do behind such teams as Wigan, blues, Boro, Portsmouth, West Ham, Swansea, and Blackburn Rovers.
We’ve always been record breakers
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Can anyone confirm what I've heard on the grapevine, that this game will definitely be on the 25th? I need to know if I can attend an event on the 24th or not. Incredibly, both BBC Football and the club app are still saying the 17th
I'm assuming we'll be on t'tellybox. If not I will be hunting down a ticket...
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25th not announced yet but it is on the box.
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All League Cup games are on new channel Sky+ if you have that.
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I've got the Sky+ channel, but it only seems to enable me to watch the one featured game, not all the others that are being televised at the same time and that also should be available to watch. I think this might be because I still have one of the older Sky+ boxes, and haven't upgraded to SkyQ?
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Not sure, they're all available on Now TV. Have you tried pressing red button?
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Just out of interest, if we were to go full B team on this, what's the line up. Assume Mings and Konsa still out, but everyone else available.
Some of these aren't B team players, but the likes of Maatsen or Ramsey aren't starters at the moment.
Gaucci
Nedeljkovic
Carlos
Bogarde
Maatsen
Ramsey
Barkley
Philogene
Buendia
Duran
Missing 1, but probably McGinn or Watkins, depending on how much they play before it.
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Happy with that line up bar Ramsey , I would not risk him in trivial games like this one .
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Who plays instead of Ramsey then? We've still been managing his time so far, a full game could be useful. I suppose if Bailey misses a few games we could play him to get the fitness back up.
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Who plays instead of Ramsey then? We've still been managing his time so far, a full game could be useful. I suppose if Bailey misses a few games we could play him to get the fitness back up.
The artist formerly known as Bidace should be back by then , he'll need some minutes
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I have Philogene in the lineup. Can't play him twice.
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Hope it is 24th
And play Watkins to sort out his shooting boots.
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Cannot believe that even now, just two weeks from the start of the matches, the dates of each tie have yet to be confirmed. Don't they have a single thought for supporters and the plans they have to make?*
*Rhetorical question. Obvs
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Hopefully we can recall Enzo and Sam II for this or failing that, Julian Joachim is still keeping himself fit.
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Hopefully we can recall Enzo and Sam II for this or failing that, Julian Joachim is still keeping himself fit.
Would have been perfect game to start them.
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Instead they get to play La Liga and Serie A rather than postmen and plumbers off the M40.
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Confirmed by PRAVDA on the 24th of Sept - 20:00pm ko on SKY Sports Football
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Lets hope that we beat the postmen and plumbers off the M40
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Lets hope that we beat the postmen and plumbers off the M40
It'll be a wrench if we don't.
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Lets hope that we beat the postmen and plumbers off the M40
It'll be a wrench if we don't.
If there isn't a blockage we should be OK.
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Lets hope that we beat the postmen and plumbers off the M40
It'll be a wrench if we don't.
Don't worry, Emery will deliver.
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Yet another of the games coming thick and fast...drain on our resources!
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Lets hope that we beat the postmen and plumbers off the M40
Rather than what, hope we don't beat them?
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We need to ensure that we plug any defensive leaks.
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Let's hope we get a few tap-ins...
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Perfect game to start duran maatsen and buendia
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Can't make this game. Couple of weeks later I should be OK.
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I have had the email with Wycombe match ticket but it won't download and the message is 'Couldn't read the QR code. Make sure the image contains a QR code and try again'. Can anyone help please?
Update - I have - somehow - downloaded a hard copy with a QR code on to print. I assume this is the one to use.
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Draw 10pm onwards Wednesday.
Teams remaining....
Us
Man U
Southampton
Stoke
Preston
Crystal Palace
Brentford
Sheffield Wednesday
Tottenham
Brighton
Chelsea
Man C
Leicester
Liverpool or West Ham
Arsenal or Bolton
Wimbledon or Newcastle
Ties played w/c 28th Oct.
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The draw will take place after Liverpool versus West Ham United. The time will not be confirmed until after the final whistle due to the potential of a penalty shootout, but it is likely to be at some point between 10pm and 10.15pm.
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Wouldnt mind a kind draw like preston. But its obviously manure chelsea or spurs away
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League Cup glory ?
4th round draw tomorrow
The fourth round fixture will be played either 29/30th October.
It will be in between Bournemouth 26th at home and Spurs away Nov 3rd
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The game will be played prior to a trip to Spurs in the league on the Sunday, followed by Brugge away in the European Cup on the Wednesday.
Whoever we get you would expect a similar use of the squad to the Wycombe game. Maybe with Mings and Kamara coming into contention ?
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A team beginning 'S' at home would be ideal.
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Busy couple of weeks there.
Fulham 19th
Bologna 22nd
Bournemouth 26th
4th round
Spurs 3rd
Brugge 6th
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The fourth round fixture will be played either 29/30th October.
Didn't realise this. I'm on holiday during half term so hope it is away.
Is the scheme where they automatically take money just for the Champions League or all cup games?
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The game will be played prior to a trip to Spurs in the league on the Sunday, followed by Brugge away in the European Cup on the Wednesday.
Whoever we get you would expect a similar use of the squad to the Wycombe game. Maybe with Mings and Kamara coming into contention ?
Hopefully we get a home tie. Having three away games in a row wouldnt be great
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Ball numbers
1) Aston Villa
2) Brentford
3) Brighton
4) Chelsea
5) Crystal Palace
6) Leicester City
7) Manchester City
8 Manchester United
9) Preston North End
10) Sheffield Wednesday
11) Southampton
12) Stoke City
13) Tottenham
14) Arsenal
15) Liverpool
16) AFC Wimbledon or Newcastle United
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Id be happy with preston but you know its manure chelsea or citeh away
Be great to have a home game as we are away in league and europe. Having three away games wont be ideal
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Id be happy with preston but you know its manure chelsea or citeh away
Be great to have a home game as we are away in league and europe. Having three away games wont be ideal
Just like to point out, three away games, three wins.
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Not in successive games, though, which I think was the focus of DC's concerns.
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Not in successive games, though, which I think was the focus of DC's concerns.
Thanks and yeah that was my point. Also just for the fans on travel
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The fourth round fixture will be played either 29/30th October.
Didn't realise this. I'm on holiday during half term so hope it is away.
Is the scheme where they automatically take money just for the Champions League or all cup games?
Same here!
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Stoke away please.
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Man U away. Man C away in the QF. Arsenal in the semi. Liverpool in the final. We may as well win it in style.
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Stoke away please.
As long as the game's on a Wednesday.
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I think Chelsea will win the carabao cup this year
When you’re churning out a second string which includes Felix and Netto plus other multi million pound players I think it gives them a massive advantage
For me it’s 50-50 whether we get Chelsea or Man United away either way if it is we’ll be going out
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4 v 1
you just know it
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Number 8. Manchester United will play Number 1
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Number 8. Manchester United will play Number 1
Honestly if i could put a bet on it i would
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As I recall the draw for the last round was much later than expected at well after 10.30. Assume the same with lots of post-match chat about Liverplod regardless of the outcome of their game. Even without pens.
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Ball numbers
1) Aston Villa
2) Manchester United
3) Manchester United
4) Manchester United
5) Manchester United
6) Manchester United
7) Manchester United
8) Manchester United
9) Manchester United
10) Manchester United
11) Manchester United
12) Manchester United
13) Manchester United
14) Manchester United
15) Manchester United
16) Manchester United
::)
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Man U away. Man C away in the QF. Arsenal in the semi. Liverpool in the final. We may as well win it in style.
Spurs in the final. Style and revenge.
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Liverpool away is my guess.
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I’ll take one of the big ones at this stage.
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Whoever, whereever.
Bring it on Mofos.
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I’ll take one of the big ones at this stage.
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Draw at 1020pm apparently.
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Palace at home. Ok
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None of the big teams so far.
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Palace home. Take that
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That's a cracking draw to be fair.
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That'll do, could have been a lot worse.
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Great draw for us. We will have palace twice in a month at home
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Tickets start at £50.....
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Wow….decent draw
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Only one of Newcastle /Chelsea and Spurs/ Citeh.
Arsenal with easy draw though.
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
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What midweek will this be?
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What dates are the games played ?
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Tricky. They will see it as a much bigger priority than us.
Let’s hope it’s 20 a ticket!
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
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What midweek will this be?
League Cup glory ?
4th round draw tomorrow
The fourth round fixture will be played either 29/30th October.
It will be in between Bournemouth 26th at home and Spurs away Nov 3rd
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The reason being that those were the last two balls left in the pot🤔
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Great chance to go all the way in this, a few all prem games in there.
Come on Heck 15 quid a ticket and get a full house
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Tickets start at £50.....
£150 with a cheese cob and a pint of piss.
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Match will be 29 or 30 Oct. I think the club have already said tickets will be capped at 25 quid.
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What dates are the games played ?
w/c 28/10
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At least we're at home - will need to up the game compared to yesterday.
Maybe Mings and Cash will be back by then - so the defense can be stronger? They didnt do bad yesterday - but CP will be a thougher test
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
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Match will be 29 or 30 Oct. I think the club have already said tickets will be capped at 25 quid.
And Heck replied "You having a laugh"
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Do you comprehend how these things work?
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What midweek will this be?
Whenever Premier League/UEFA/Skytv and uncle Tom Cobley decide. Probably spread overc3 weeks or so.
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Brentford vs Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton vs Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur vs Manchester City
AFC Wimbledon or Newcastle United vs Chelsea
Manchester United vs Leicester City
Brighton & Hove Albion vs Liverpool
Preston North End vs Arsenal
Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace
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League Cup the working mans cup back in the 60's
Villa please see this as chance to get some supporters to the ground that have been priced out of the premier league. It wil do your PR the world of good and boy don't they need it
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Why do Man Utd always always always get a home draw?
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Do you comprehend how these things work?
Well I've worked it out with a plausible theory as I did wonder.
So it's no coincidence that number one ball was drawn out second to last .
When balls are poured into the mixing bowl Villa ball is in first and remained at the bottom untouched.
And that's the reason it was pulled out for the final tie.
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The first ball drawn out was number 2 Brentford.
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Match will be 29 or 30 Oct. I think the club have already said tickets will be capped at 25 quid.
And Heck replied "You having a laugh"
from the Chumps prices announcement, you may have missed as you choked on your cheesy Wotsits:
"The Club also take this opportunity to announce pricing for domestic cup matches should we be drawn at home. All Carabao Cup matches and the first home fixture in the FA Cup will be priced at just £25 for adults and £10 for children in all areas of the Stadium."
"Just"
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Your talking a load of balls mate
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League Cup the working mans cup back in the 60's
Villa please see this as chance to get some supporters to the ground that have been priced out of the premier league. It wil do your PR the world of good and boy don't they need it
It's already confirmed as £25
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Your talking a load of balls mate
Seems to be just throwing out loads of hooks to get bites.
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The first ball drawn out was number 2 Brentford.
So you’ve blow up your own “plausible theory”
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Palace have been to Villa Park 6 times in the cup games. We've won 5 and drawn 1.
The one draw they did get in 1978 we still went through 3-0 after a 2nd replay at Coventry.
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Crystal%20Palace/
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The first ball drawn out was number 2 Brentford.
So you’ve blow up your own “plausible theory”
How so.
Villa were number one and remained untouched.
And what I think happened is the number one ball being at the very bottom and not being mixed in.
Draws done now but it's one to look out for in balls not being drawn out till last
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Always feels like games against Palace are rarely won by the away side. So that's nice with this draw.
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
Are you ok?
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The first ball drawn out was number 2 Brentford.
Which sort of disproves your theory, don't you think? (Please don't reply).
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"The Club also take this opportunity to announce pricing for domestic cup matches should we be drawn at home. All Carabao Cup matches and the first home fixture in the FA Cup will be priced at just £25 for adults and £10 for children in all areas of the Stadium."
Any reduction for pensioners ? It's half term week and I want to take my granddaughter to her first floodlit game.
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We tend to beat them at home and lose away. Hopefully we have more players returning than fresh injuries between now and then, and are able to put out a strong team.
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The first ball drawn out was number 2 Brentford.
Which sort of disproves your theory, don't you think? (Please don't reply).
Well I don't see it like that but I will not go on as draw made now but the fact is Villa were drawn out final tie yet were ball number one.
I now won't say any more on the draw system
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Thank christ for that.
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
Sounds quite feasible, to be fair. I wasn't watching, did it look like they'd bothered mixing them up at all?
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We tend to beat them at home and lose away. Hopefully we have more players returning than fresh injuries between now and then, and are able to put out a strong team.
Last time lost to Palace at Villa Park was December 2013.
That's over 10 years ago.
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How early was ball 16 drawn? We need to know if this was legit.
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
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We tend to beat them at home and lose away. Hopefully we have more players returning than fresh injuries between now and then, and are able to put out a strong team.
Last time lost to Palace at Villa Park was December 2013.
That's over 10 years ago.
Only five away wins between us in 52 meetings (excluding one neutral venue game).
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
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That 2013 game was crap and then they twatted one in at the end.
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
You don't deserve me:
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
It will hopefully be on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries soon.
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
Sounds quite feasible, to be fair. I wasn't watching, did it look like they'd bothered mixing them up at all?
Indeed. Number 1 wasn't drawn out all the way to the final ties, but number 2 was drawn out first. Let's not over discussing this as best to keep to discussing the actual tie v Palace .
That said here there are varying opinions over the draw's methodology, in the end, I would prefer that everyone got along because it seems some see it differently to the Villa ball not being touched
So let's move on and note for instance, the price of the tickets has been revealed, and that is obviously of more popular interest.
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
You don't deserve me:
You're too kind. I thought I was going to have to wait for the eight part investigative mini-series on Netflix.
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Definitely sounds like they messed up, how else would they mix up the No. 6 and No. 1 balls?
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
You don't deserve me:
There's only ONE left says Redknapp.
Reference to ball number one!
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
Sounds quite feasible, to be fair. I wasn't watching, did it look like they'd bothered mixing them up at all?
I think gravity means the last balsl out are in the middle
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
You don't deserve me:
There's only ONE left says Redknapp.
Reference to ball number one!
And it's impossible that's coincidence? Are you OK?
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Yes, they mixed the ball thoroughly after every ball was drawn.
Mad, how they just missed that number one, then. Very weird. Wish I'd watched it, now.
It will hopefully be on an episode of Unsolved Mysteries soon.
Or this
(https://i.ibb.co/09cJVrg/5-D2-EE680-D879-43-E7-8-D85-EC82-D2-F286-CB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/09cJVrg)
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If you watch the draw backwards you can follow the number 1 ball around the bowl.....'a bit like you would the goldfish at your nans when you were a nipper'
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Villa were the last tie to be drawn for some reason.
Pressumably because they were one of the last 2 balls?
Well, it's clear the Villa ball wasn't touched till the end because it's number 1! it's first in but then second to last out!
So in between the drawmasters Redknapp and Nolan haven't touched the bottom of the bowl and left Villa till last.
It's a poor shuffle, and the system can be manipulated when there isn't the correct shuffle. Hustlers do this in cards.
I don't think any shenanigans went on other than a very poor shuffle system which didn't include the number one ball being touched till the final draw.
Sounds quite feasible, to be fair. I wasn't watching, did it look like they'd bothered mixing them up at all?
I think gravity means the last balsl out are in the middle
You know, like the famous event in history, where the apple hit Newton on the head, and he cried - "Number 1, Villa will play..." before a bird shat on him, and he said "Man Utd".
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The whole thing stinks. Look at the evidence.
Ball 1 goes in first, strong suspicions that it never properly moves and comes out last. What are the chances ?
Arsenal are allocated ball 14 ?
AFC Wimbledon are allocated ball 16 ?
Why were the ball numbers allocated during the afternoon ? This could easily have been done at the conclusion of tonights ties prior to the draw at 10.20.
We all drink milk and Coca Cola, has anybody ever drank Carabao ? What exactly is it ?
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In 1996, Louise Nurding, later to be known as Louise Redknapp - wife of Jamie Redknapp who did tonight's draw, had a song called "One Kiss From Heaven". Villa were ball number one.
Coincidence?
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Start believing in coincidences; it's a slippery slope. Have to be on guard because when things are too coincidental to me, it makes me wonder.I won't go on about this because I don't want to annoy the board, but it is a fact that number 1 didn't come out till last tie. Just something I observe don't see coincidence.
We all have our theories though. Paul e said on the standard of refereeing thread that Stuart Atwell was dishonest on who he supports so he could officiate Villa matches.
I don't agree, and that's ok if people don't agree on coincidence or not in my case here as it's fact when the ball came out
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We were the first winners in Nineteen Sixty ONE.
Our first Wembley final was in Nineteen Seventy ONE.
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In 1996, Louise Nurding, later to be known as Louise Redknapp - wife of Jamie Redknapp who did tonight's draw, had a song called "One Kiss From Heaven". Villa were ball number one.
Coincidence?
Doubtful, that was the fifth single from her debut album and we drew Crystal Palace who were ball number five.
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Can't complain, home to a team we should be beating if we put a good side out (and we have a gap of three days either side with it being on the Wednesday).
Also Spurs/Man. City and probably Newcastle/Chelsea means two decent teams will be going out, Brighton/Liverpool also an interesting one.
Ticket prices are also what they should be and I assume if we make the SF the home fixture will be cheaper than Leicester in Jan 2020?
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I think its a bit more of a slippery slope when you stop believing in maths and the laws of probabilty.
Besides we all know the its the FA Cup thats fixed.
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In 1996, Louise Nurding, later to be known as Louise Redknapp - wife of Jamie Redknapp who did tonight's draw, had a song called "One Kiss From Heaven". Villa were ball number one.
Coincidence?
Doubtful, that was the fifth single from her debut album and we drew Crystal Palace who were ball number five.
We were the first winners in Nineteen Sixty ONE.
Our first Wembley final was in Nineteen Seventy ONE.
It pays to take notice of numbers. So there's a lot of sense there from this.
There a lot of signs and symbolism and actually if you have heard of synchronicity that is the only coincidence I would deal in as then it always makes sense. It's actually quite accurate way to deal with things.
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"The Club also take this opportunity to announce pricing for domestic cup matches should we be drawn at home. All Carabao Cup matches and the first home fixture in the FA Cup will be priced at just £25 for adults and £10 for children in all areas of the Stadium."
Any reduction for pensioners ? It's half term week and I want to take my granddaughter to her first floodlit game.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/september/04/champions-league-ticket-details/ there was no mention of it, but who knows. they've left themselves an easy win to put over 65 with under 18....
likely?!
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In 1996, Louise Nurding, later to be known as Louise Redknapp - wife of Jamie Redknapp who did tonight's draw, had a song called "One Kiss From Heaven". Villa were ball number one.
Coincidence?
Wasn’t it Just A Step From Heaven, when she was part of pop trio Eternal?
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Different song. According to my mate Wikipedia.
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The balls in the mixing bowl conspiracy is right up there with who killed JFK and did we really walk on the moon
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Depends which moon?
One for the QI fans there.
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3-1 McInally (2)
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Palace have been to Villa Park 6 times in the cup games. We've won 5 and drawn 1.
The one draw they did get in 1978 we still went through 3-0 after a 2nd replay at Coventry.
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Crystal%20Palace/
I went to that second replay. Great night. The back of the Holte packed into that bit in the home end (The West stand?) Andy Gray was fantastic that night.
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Different song. According to my mate Wikipedia.
She was definitely onto something then!
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Apparently they chopped off Kevin Nolan’s middle finger to stop him reaching ball #1. He’s been paid off so denying it. FACT!
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All our League Cup trophy wins occurred in years begining with a 1.
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Just checked tonights lottery results. Ball 1 hadn't appeared since 3rd July. That's 28 consecutive draws without Ball 1! Tonight it re-appeared.
https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/results/lotto/draw-history?icid=re-808:bd:2:dbr:lo:res:ch:tx
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The balls in the mixing bowl conspiracy is right up there with who killed JFK and did we really walk on the moon
Don't forget the Titanic and Olympic being switched to deliberately sink the latter as part of an insurance fraud.
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The balls in the mixing bowl conspiracy is right up there with who killed JFK and did we really walk on the moon
(Boss of the Tampa mafia) Santo Traficante Junior’s last words were “we killed the wrong brother”). Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby were both Mafia associates.
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Take that draw given some of the teams left in it.
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I hope Jonathan Creek can come in and figure this ball malarkey out. I thought the big teams were meant to get easy draws? How do you explain Man City getting Spu... oh.
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Palace played their first team away to QPR. Can't see us getting through playing reserves.
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I think the conspiracy theory member of Footy's team was on the late shift last night.
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I think the conspiracy theory member of Footy's team was on the late shift last night.
That's what they want you to think...
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Footy, are you thinking what I’m thinking? Could we, nay, should we, have a thread specifically about balls?
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Footy, are you thinking what I’m thinking? Could we, nay, should we, have a thread specifically about balls?
Keep talking... :D
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I actually genuinely want to know what he thinks about the moon landings, I could do with some entertainment on a boring Thursday morning.
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What about the Young Boy balls? Was there a problem it being Wankdorf?
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What about the Young Boy balls? Was there a problem it being Wankdorf?
You think they put them in the microwave?
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All our League Cup trophy wins occurred in years begining with a 1.
This made me laugh more than it really should have.
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As did all our trophy wins, but I know that's not the point of current trending conspiracy.
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As did all our trophy wins, but I know that's not the point of current trending conspiracy.
I hope you’re not forgetting the Peace Cup. That was a number 2.
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As did all our trophy wins, but I know that's not the point of current trending conspiracy.
I hope you’re not forgetting the Peace Cup. That was a number 2.
On the contrary, I think you'll find we won that in 1430 AH.
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Palace played their first team away to QPR. Can't see us getting through playing reserves.
If it's the same reserve side that beat Wycombe, I'd agree - but the game is over a month away. Assuming no new injury concerns, our "reserve" team could conceivably include Mings, Kamara, Carlos and Philogene by then. When you're also including the likes of Barkley, Duran, Buendia and Maatsen - that's a pretty solid start to your outfield, while also resting most players would likely have started the previous match. Chuck in a couple of kids and that's not a bad side at all.
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Palace played their first team away to QPR. Can't see us getting through playing reserves.
If it's the same reserve side that beat Wycombe, I'd agree - but the game is over a month away. Assuming no new injury concerns, our "reserve" team could conceivably include Mings, Kamara, Carlos and Philogene by then. When you're also including the likes of Barkley, Duran, Buendia and Maatsen - that's a pretty solid start to your outfield, while also resting most players would likely have started the previous match. Chuck in a couple of kids and that's not a bad side at all.
True, and don't forget Cash. Not everything is digital. Yet.
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The trouble with assuming we will have players back is that we tend to get additional players injured at a faster rate than we get them returning.
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This is nice:
https://x.com/kain_avfc/status/1839319631854711175?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
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Palace played their first team away to QPR. Can't see us getting through playing reserves.
We'll have 9 points in the bag for Europe by then so can a bit stronger against Palace and rest one or two for Brugge away the following week. :)
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This is nice:
https://x.com/kain_avfc/status/1839319631854711175?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
Haha. Yes.
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As did all our trophy wins, but I know that's not the point of current trending conspiracy.
I hope you’re not forgetting the Peace Cup. That was a number 2.
On the contrary, I think you'll find we won that in 1430 AH.
Going point BV. Al-Hijri must not be ignored now that Saudi’s own football.
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Match confirmed for Wednesday, October 30, kick off 7.45pm and will be shown live on Sky Sports+.
Good luck to Mr Heck trying to sell GA+ packages for the match
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We get the chance to buy a ticket for just £25 for this one. It’ll be a sell out.
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I'll be surprised if we get anywhere near 25,000
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I'll be surprised if we get anywhere near 25,000
Yep very low attendance for this one.
£25 plus its on sky , myself as a ST holder will give this a miss.
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Bugger, I was going to see 1984 that night.
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Bugger, I was going to see 1984 that night.
You'll have to wait for the sequel - 2001.
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Tickets £25 , £10 for kids . Heck must be out the country !
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Tickets £25 , £10 for kids . Heck must be out the country !
He takes with one hand, and gives back with the other.
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Are gate & food/beverage receipts shared with the opposition for cup games or just gate?
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I'll be surprised if we get anywhere near 25,000
Yep very low attendance for this one.
£25 plus its on sky , myself as a ST holder will give this a miss.
Think ill go on the off chance we get to a cup final.
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Just ordered my ticket, received the confirmation email and the link to add this to my Apple wallet doesn't work 🙄
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We get the chance to buy a ticket for just £25 for this one. It’ll be a sell out.
Id be stunned if we get 30k for this
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Prepare to be stunned.
The people who get little or no chance for tickets will be clamouring for these at £25.
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Just ordered my ticket, received the confirmation email and the link to add this to my Apple wallet doesn't work 🙄
Same for mine and Google wallet.
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The Bologna ticket isn't available for Google Wallet yet and that's eight days before Palace. I assume they'll sort it out nearer the time. I'd keep your email confirmation just in case.
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The links not working seems to be a running theme this season. Apparently messaging @avfcsupport on X prompts them to send another email with links that work.
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Just ordered my ticket, received the confirmation email and the link to add this to my Apple wallet doesn't work 🙄
Same for mine and Google wallet.
I’ve just booked a ticket (was waiting to find out if I could blag a lift home from a mate) and discovered that the Apple wallet link in the email didn’t work and the ticket didn’t show up in the App
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Palace tickets won't be available to add to Google Wallet etc until 26/10/24.
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I don't often find myself nodding in agreement with something that Paul Merson says on Sky TV, but I thought Merson made a very good point last night in stressing the importance of this upcoming game, given the need for us to (1) utilise and keep fully involved what is now an excellent squad of players and (2) bag a trophy.
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We should put out a decent team.
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Done have a weakened side to put out?
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If he plays swinkles and bogarde potentially. I really hope he doesn’t.
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We should be able to field a reasonably strong side.
Olsen
Ned Carlos Mings Maatsen
Kamara Barkley
Philogene Buendia Ramsay
Duran
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Prepare to be stunned.
The people who get little or no chance for tickets will be clamouring for these at £25.
I won't be able to go, so hopefully you are correct, because we need these supporters just as much the season ticket holders and regulars
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Winning a trophy in Feb feeds the winning momentum and i think we should try for this, beat Palace we are into QF
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Be suprised if we get over 30k for this
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They'll get close to capacity crowd as I think its being played on school half term week?
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We should be able to field a reasonably strong side.
Olsen
Ned Carlos Mings Maatsen
Kamara Barkley
Philogene Buendia Ramsay
Duran
Not Olsen anymore is it. Should be Gauci.
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We should be able to field a reasonably strong side.
Olsen
Ned Carlos Mings Maatsen
Kamara Barkley
Philogene Buendia Ramsay
Duran
Not Olsen anymore is it. Should be Gauci.
It will be Gauci.
I really think this game is as big for us in some ways as the Bruges game. We are likely to get top 24 in the CL now and possibly top 8 but being honest we are very unlikely to win it.
The Carabao cup still represents our best shot at a trophy and 28 years is far too long. Win this and we are 2 ties from Wembley, and with Man C115y not taking it seriously, there is every chance they will go out at Spurs.
Hope we can get 30k for this and put out a good side. No Bogarde/Swinkels etc... We really need to win a trophy and we have better players who need game time.
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Olsen was back on the bench on Tuesday. Not sure if that remains he's regained his backup spot or if Gauci has picked up a knock or was being given extra time to recover from trips to Australia and Japan.
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I would go
Gauchi
Ned Konsa Mings Maatsen
Kamara Barclay
Philogene Ramsay
Buendia
The Chaos
With Palaces league form being dross i would imagine they will save a few as well
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In his press conference today, Unai said getting into europe was his first objective and now is to get a trophy.
Realistically, the Champions League is a long shot but the Carabao Cup or the FA Cup is well within our squads grasp.
Any future injuries permitting, I reckon Unai really wants a cup this year.
Fingers crossed.
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The annoying thing about the cup this year that if we do win, we will likely be joined in the QF by another 5 of the "big 8".
(With Chelsea and Man United drawn at home to the lowest rank teams to make the semis.)
Still, a great chance to progress and winning has become a habit.
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In his press conference today, Unai said getting into europe was his first objective and now is to get a trophy.
Realistically, the Champions League is a long shot but the Carabao Cup or the FA Cup is well within our squads grasp.
Any future injuries permitting, I reckon Unai really wants a cup this year.
Fingers crossed.
I agree, short of actually winning something, he has now achieved just about everything he can with us. Inside two years. The next step is a trophy (of any description), then we target the league title and European dominance :-)
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Was thinking of who we could play before and the depth of quality is frightening.
Guaci
Ned
Carlos
Mings
Maatsen
McGinn
Barkley
Kamara
Philogene
Buendia
Duran
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Was thinking of who we could play before and the depth of quality is frightening.
Guaci
Ned
Carlos
Mings
Maatsen
McGinn
Barkley
Kamara
Philogene
Buendia
Duran
Isn't it just. That team would beat most Villa teams from the last decade or more.
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When is the Carabao Cup draw?
The Carabao Cup quarter-final draw is confirmed to take place on Wednesday, October 30, 2024 after Tottenham’s game against Manchester City – which kicks off at 8.15pm GMT.
An estimated time for the draw is 10.30pm GMT, with Mark Chapman hosting and helped by Jamie Redknapp and Izzy Christiansen.
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(With Chelsea and Man United drawn at home to the lowest rank teams to make the semis.)
it would be unlike sponsors Carabao to rig the draw
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Sorry, what?
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Well they even seeded the 3rd round ...
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Seeding is not the same as rigging, and they had no choice due to the way European fixtures fall this season. Who do you think they have rigged the draw for?
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Seeding is not the same as rigging, and they had no choice due to the way European fixtures fall this season. Who do you think they have rigged the draw for?
It sounds like for us which seems weird for VillaTim to be moaning about.
Also nothing to do with the sponsors. It is the English Football League who administer the cup and set rules for it.
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I can't remember which thread had someone state that although they realise the full importance of the CL for finances etc, they would rather win the League Cup and finish qualifying for the Europa League next season. Personally I want us in the CL for the next few years to bed ourselves in. Then cup wins will follow. There is a reason that the Cup hasn't been won outside of the top four teams much since the 2000's and that has been the money coming in meaning squads have grown enough to field stronger side across the board.
Get the win early on will be an Emery bonus though, but for the long term silverware, we need the CL continuation.
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If all goes well this evening the dream QF draw would be:
Villa v Preston
Brentford v Newcastle
Southampton v Spurs
Leicester v Brighton
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If all goes well this evening the dream QF draw would be:
Villa v Preston
I think we'd all like to see the 'amfy derby'.