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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 23, 2023, 07:41:42 PM
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Need to avoid conceding early in the 2nd leg or it could get twitchy.
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Only 5 against this lot? Emery out!
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Seems mean to make them play the 2nd leg.
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Job done. The jealousy of the money we spent has got a little boring from the commentators and pundits.
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Love the commentators banging on about how big Villa are. Proper respect
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The only downside, is we will have to wait for the next round for one of those "special Nights " in Europe. The atmosphere will be poor next week
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The gulf in ability was massive but at least we took care of business.
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Looking forward to giving their little knobhead of a manager some stick next week.
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Job done. Onto Burnley…
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Hopefully play Traore from the start next week, let's have a bit of fun.
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Diege MOM
I know it was Hibs but still looked quality
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I thought the commentators were quite amusing... praying that Villa wouldn't go up any gears.
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Anyone know why Emi went off??
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Five nil even Watkins scored.
Job done.
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Olsen in goals for full 90 next week?
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I thought the commentators were quite amusing... praying that Villa wouldn't go up any gears.
“..and Hibs are taking an absolute doing! “
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
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olsen
cash
chambers
pau
Diege
Teilemans
dendonker
Mcginn
Bertie
duran
Diaby
should do it nxt week
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Professional job
It’s seems a long time in these type of matches we can say that
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Anyone know why Emi went off??
Picked up a knock in the first half apparently
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Olsen in goals for full 90 next week?
They’d still need a miracle.
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That was the most controlled "game management" I have ever seen in my life.
Even the commentators were talking about how we could switch up the gears when we wanted to, & when we did, we pretty much scored.
But at the same time, there was an element of energy conservation involved.
An absolute European footballing masterclass.
Fair play to Digne, he was fantastic. The quality of the opposition has to be taken into account, but you can only play who is in front of you. But everything came through him.
Great result. Hopefully we can get some more of the squad players back fit & give them some minutes next week.
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It was only Hibs.
But then, it was only Varteks. And only Rapid Vienna. And only Trabzonspor. And only...
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Well done Villa a classy win, thought the commentary was terrible, they spent about 90% of the time talking about anything other than the match.
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It was only Hibs.
But then, it was only Varteks. And only Rapid Vienna. And only Trabzonspor. And only...
Exactly, long run of Euro games and trips ahead now.
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Really chuffed with that. We're back, baby!
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I've had to put the subtitles on for the post match interview.
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Job done . Thank you boys.
UTV
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I liked the fact that McGinn said in the after match interview that Emery wasn't happy with the first half.
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
Omari Kellyman. Maybe Kaden Young. Kerr Smith. Or Rory Wilson...
Tbh though, it wouldn't be a bad night to give the back four more time to play together. Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne (currently) Would give them time to get used to each other a bit more & build up a partnership. Even if its only Carlos & Torres...
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That'll do
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Job done with extreme prejudice. I feel sorry for Hibs fans who were hoping to see a different result. We should be able to manage the second leg now. The expression 'Onwards and upwards' has never felt more appropriate.
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Great post match interview with Unai.
God , I love that man
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Job done. The jealousy of the money we spent has got a little boring from the commentators and pundits.
Nothing to do with jealousy IMO and everything to do with modern football. We make the same complaints about man city. Loads of money clearly makes a difference
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I think the Newcastle score really pissed them off, and Everton and Hibs got the real worst of them proving a point.
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Enjoyed that.
We can't really let Digne go in this form can we?
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The amount we spent on Diaby is quite possibly more than the combined transfer fees spent by all Scottish clubs over the last year or two.
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I’m actually shocked at the gulf in quality between the two Premier Leagues maybe i was being naive
My lad asked me how good they would be and I said they would probably be at the level of a lower championship team
After watching that don’t I think they would survive in any of our professional leagues
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Very very comfortable. Brilliantly done.
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That was a proper professional outing. Good on the squad for going up there, not messing about and taking care of business.
UTV
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I actually felt a bit sorry for Hibs such was the gulf. That said, I hope we stick 10 past them in the return.
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We have had 2 excellent pre season friendlies this week. These games have helped us with fitness and tactics, 9 goals and 2 clean sheets, without having to get out of second gear.
They have been priceless.
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As comfortable and clinical we were all hoping it would be.
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And that is how you do that. Top job.
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so this is what it feels like to be a Man City fan against most teams.
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I don't want to jinx it but I almost wish we could skip ahead to the Liverpool game and see how we get on against a better side now we've burned off that horrible Newcastle performance.
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The amount we spent on Diaby is quite possibly more than the combined transfer fees spent by all Scottish clubs over the last year or two.
This has me thinking. You have probably got Saudi forums called V&H or whatever, where they are saying "the amount I spent on my last holiday in London has to be more than the Villa spent on their squad over the last year or two".
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so this is what it feels like to be a Man City fan against most teams.
This is how it feels to be hungry, this is how it feels to be tall
(Has Risso finished the verses yet?)
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Some of them don't seem to like us as much as they did before the game
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?363562-Money-talks
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A professional performance where we didn’t really need to get out of third gear. I really thought that in the away leg they would provide a sterner test but the gulf in class was clear.
Digne was brilliant and they had no answer to his marauding runs. All in all the prospect of a European campaign is mouthwatering.
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Some of them don't seem to like us as much as they did before the game
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?363562-Money-talks
They are mostly lamenting the shiteness of their team and their manager as far as I can see. One poster accuses us (wrongly) of 'long-balling'.
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5-0 in first gear.... easy.
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Were they filming a re-make of The Birds in the ground after the game? There were bastard loads of them.
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Feel much happier now as I’ve checked if Stevenage are in this competition and apparently they’re not. Phew!!!
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It was like an exhibition game or a dads against lads game. Lee Johnson is still a vile ******. Well done Ollie for the goals. Why hasn't Digne played like those last 2 games, all the time?
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As comfortable and clinical we were all hoping it would be.
I’m okay now mate.
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Tidy
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There does seem to be a massive gulf in quality between some of the teams that qualify for this competition. I know you can't just give 7 Champions League places to English teams, but it does feel a little pointless when you look at who ends up in the group stages of the Conference.
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Some of them don't seem to like us as much as they did before the game
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?363562-Money-talks
Even better that they have tumbled that garden gnome of a manager.
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Anyone know what happened the last time we started a European campaign with a 5-0 win in a frozen, barren wasteland?
Ah bugger the away leg was 2-0...
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Job done with extreme prejudice. I feel sorry for Hibs fans who were hoping to see a different result. We should be able to manage the second leg now. The expression 'Onwards and upwards' has never felt more appropriate.
We been in the same position a few times
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
Omari Kellyman. Maybe Kaden Young. Kerr Smith. Or Rory Wilson...
Tbh though, it wouldn't be a bad night to give the back four more time to play together. Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne (currently) Would give them time to get used to each other a bit more & build up a partnership. Even if its only Carlos & Torres...
I’d certainly like to see that.
They need more game time together as it’s a new partnership.
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The difference between the two leagues was absolutely stark, it looked like men against boys from the off.
When we lost the ball, we took it back. We won all the 50/50s. We passed and moved with speed and invention.
We did all that without really at any point raising our level above that of a preseason friendly.
The difference between the leagues is just stratospheric.
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I wonder if those Hibs fans who have tickets for the Holte will be selling them 😉
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Won 5-0 without even playing that well to be honest. Hard to gauge anything from such a one sided game really. Hibs were outclassed - mid table League One level at best.
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Fuck my old boots
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
Omari Kellyman. Maybe Kaden Young. Kerr Smith. Or Rory Wilson...
Tbh though, it wouldn't be a bad night to give the back four more time to play together. Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne (currently) Would give them time to get used to each other a bit more & build up a partnership. Even if its only Carlos & Torres...
I’d certainly like to see that.
They need more game time together as it’s a new partnership.
They interviewed Unai Emery on BBC Scotland after the game a and he said that he respected Hibs and the competition tonight and would be doing so in the second leg. I'd imagine he would want them to get into the rhythm of Thursday and Sunday games.
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Job done with extreme prejudice. I feel sorry for Hibs fans who were hoping to see a different result. We should be able to manage the second leg now. The expression 'Onwards and upwards' has never felt more appropriate.
We been in the same position a few times
0-5 up in the first leg of a European competition?
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Even just looking at the players near each other on the pitch ours just looked bigger and stronger. I half expected some of their players to do a Louis Tomlinson and throw up after being challenged.
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
Omari Kellyman. Maybe Kaden Young. Kerr Smith. Or Rory Wilson...
Tbh though, it wouldn't be a bad night to give the back four more time to play together. Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne (currently) Would give them time to get used to each other a bit more & build up a partnership. Even if its only Carlos & Torres...
I’d certainly like to see that.
They need more game time together as it’s a new partnership.
They interviewed Unai Emery on BBC Scotland after the game a and he said that he respected Hibs and the competition tonight and would be doing so in the second leg. I'd imagine he would want them to get into the rhythm of Thursday and Sunday games.
I really don’t think Emery is one for ‘Playing the kids’
Maybe one or two and a couple on the bench, but certainly not a complete change
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Obviously the money has made a huge difference over the years but there’s always been a gulf there. Scottish teams used to be able to do English teams on their strength and sheer Scottish bravado. Even the PL players look like unbelievable physical specimens these days. Carlos being the obvious case in point.
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Hibernian 0-5 Aston Villa: Ollie Watkins nets hat-trick in Europa Conference League demolition - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66573659
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Hibernian 0-5 Aston Villa: Ollie Watkins nets hat-trick in Europa Conference League demolition - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66573659
should have had at least 5 - good for his confidence though
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I actually enjoyed the commentators because they had actually done their research on our players both on the pitch, bench and treatment table. Makes a change to the ignorant pundits on most English channels.
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The coverage was great.
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I had WM on the TV and bbc on my phone the latter were about two minutes behind the action.
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Even just looking at the players near each other on the pitch ours just looked bigger and stronger. I half expected some of their players to do a Louis Tomlinson and throw up after being challenged.
I remember thinking that when we used to be utter shit and every team we played against looked bigger, stronger and faster.
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Some of them don't seem to like us as much as they did before the game
https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?363562-Money-talks
They don't seem that bad really but this one:
Modern football unfortunately.
I think the worst part about the popularity of the premier league is it gives horrible fan bases like that lot the chance to support their teams pump teams like us and take the piss.
😂
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I also enjoyed the TV coverage and commentary,
Scottish fitba is shite.
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Job done with extreme prejudice. I feel sorry for Hibs fans who were hoping to see a different result. We should be able to manage the second leg now. The expression 'Onwards and upwards' has never felt more appropriate.
We been in the same position a few times
0-5 up in the first leg of a European competition?
FC Valur 1981.
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I had WM on the TV and bbc on my phone the latter were about two minutes behind the action.
WM are about 20 years behind....
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Scottish fitba is shite.
Well, similarly, English food is shite but we realise that you have other qualities.
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Professional performance
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Professional performance with the bonus of Sir Des and McCafu on the telly coverage. Pretty decent evening.
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Give young Feeney his head in the return leg. Lad's gonna be a baller. Think we've sold off all our other young lads unfortunately so I'm not sure who else we can blood.
Omari Kellyman. Maybe Kaden Young. Kerr Smith. Or Rory Wilson...
Tbh though, it wouldn't be a bad night to give the back four more time to play together. Cash, Carlos, Torres, Digne (currently) Would give them time to get used to each other a bit more & build up a partnership. Even if its only Carlos & Torres...
I’d certainly like to see that.
They need more game time together as it’s a new partnership.
They interviewed Unai Emery on BBC Scotland after the game a and he said that he respected Hibs and the competition tonight and would be doing so in the second leg. I'd imagine he would want them to get into the rhythm of Thursday and Sunday games.
I really don’t think Emery is one for ‘Playing the kids’
Maybe one or two and a couple on the bench, but certainly not a complete change
Because I cherish you all, I've done some digging on precedent.
Most obvious one that jumped out, first knock-out round 15-16 Europa League.
Sevilla won the first leg 3-0, Emery made seven changes for the second leg. Kept the keeper, main centre-back, main midfielder, striker and changed everything else.
Molde won the second leg 1-0.
Might be different if you're trying to teach a whole new back four how to play together though.
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I don’t think the gap between leagues is that stark, Celtic would not get ripped apart by Everton or Sheffield United. (e.g.) Over two legs Burnley needed added time to get past Aberdeen a few years ago.
But the gap between the Glasgow teams and the rest of the Scottish premier league is wider than ever before. I mean! Brendon Rodgers left for Leicester, with Celtic on the brink of doing an (utterly ludicrous) treble treble.
The gulf we saw tonight is basically two gulfs, the top seven of the premier league and the rest, and the gulf between the top two of the Scottish premier league and the rest.
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Were they filming a re-make of The Birds in the ground after the game? There were bastard loads of them.
That was nuts. Hopefully Lee Johnson parked his Fiat 500 undercover somewhere or it'll be covered in seagull shite.
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I’m angry at myself for ever doubting them. I was the same against Everton.
Will take a while to educate myself that this is no longer the Villa of old…. This is a different beast.
Hopefully we’re the holders of the Euro conference trophy and the FA Cup next summer!
#UTV
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I’m actually shocked at the gulf in quality between the two Premier Leagues maybe i was being naive
My lad asked me how good they would be and I said they would probably be at the level of a lower championship team
After watching that don’t I think they would survive in any of our professional leagues
Honestly, when most Premier teams up here (outside the gruesome twosome) get a sniff of a league 1 player we think we’re going to take on the world.
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Is Ecky a reference to Ecclefechan always love passing that junction?
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It’s a nickname that comes from a ridiculously stupid story that now forms the basis of too much of my online presence. I have considered changing my name by deed poll. 🤣🤣
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Really enjoyed that, when the 5th went in I started to relax a bit
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https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-exudes-hibs-pride-27581149
The hatred really is still there isn’t it.
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I don't want to jinx it but I almost wish we could skip ahead to the Liverpool game and see how we get on against a better side now we've burned off that horrible Newcastle performance.
Too late, jinxed it. Burnley will be a tough away game on Sunday.
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But why?
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I don't want to jinx it but I almost wish we could skip ahead to the Liverpool game and see how we get on against a better side now we've burned off that horrible Newcastle performance.
Too late, jinxed it. Burnley will be a tough away game on Sunday.
It will be . We need to be much sharper than we were tonight. I can see why Emery wasn't happy at HT.
(Burnley beat Man U today 3-0 at Carrington in a friendly)
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I don't want to jinx it but I almost wish we could skip ahead to the Liverpool game and see how we get on against a better side now we've burned off that horrible Newcastle performance.
Too late, jinxed it. Burnley will be a tough away game on Sunday.
Well it would be hard for them to provide less opposition than Everton and Hibs did.
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I don’t think the gap between leagues is that stark, Celtic would not get ripped apart by Everton or Sheffield United. (e.g.) Over two legs Burnley needed added time to get past Aberdeen a few years ago.
But the gap between the Glasgow teams and the rest of the Scottish premier league is wider than ever before. I mean! Brendon Rodgers left for Leicester, with Celtic on the brink of doing an (utterly ludicrous) treble treble.
The gulf we saw tonight is basically two gulfs, the top seven of the premier league and the rest, and the gulf between the top two of the Scottish premier league and the rest.
I make it three gulfs out of this or a gap and two gulfs if you like. Anyway we where very fluid today as a team I thought , a pleasure to watch 11 really good footballers in the starting line up playing together as a tight team - best I ve seen this side of the summer break from us. Hibs looked a proper team up for it , champoinship level I thought. Tielemans and Traore and even Olsen holding also high as level as the starters when coming on, Cash and Duran a level below I thought. Special mention to Carlos who looked sperb and the back three looked comfortable, Konsa impressive as RB, Torres might have a little bit lack of speed. Watkins got to show what he can do - nice. Had a stream with bbc Scotland - commentators did sound a bit like Alex Ferguson.
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https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-exudes-hibs-pride-27581149
The hatred really is still there isn’t it.
To be fair to Johnson - not something I like to do, as he's a prick - I don't see much wrong with what he said there.
Did I hear the commentator say something about him complaining to the match officials about Emery's positioning in the technical area, or something?
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Love the commentators banging on about how big Villa are. Proper respect
A ‘behemoth’, no less :)
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Had a stream with bbc Scotland - commentators did sound a bit like Alex Ferguson.
Am assuming we all had the same one, too. I thought they were actually pretty good. Well, better than the dross we normally get, certainly refreshing to hear differing opinions and less of the usual predictable biased bilge.
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UE just on SSN said Emi Martinez has a slight injury, hence why Olsen played the second half. Sounded more precautionary than anything. We don't want yet another injury problem!
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Commentators were very good, as has been mentioned. Knowledgeable and balanced - compare to the utter jingoistic shit show that BT put on any time there’s a European game.
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Had a stream with bbc Scotland - commentators did sound a bit like Alex Ferguson.
Am assuming we all had the same one, too. I thought they were actually pretty good. Well, better than the dross we normally get, certainly refreshing to hear differing opinions and less of the usual predictable biased bilge.
I agree with this. It s the sound of the speech I refer to , like people coming from same part of a country sound alike - like the same dialect if you have that word. We learned English at school over here so my use of the language might do somtimes that I dont get what I want to say across in good way ish :)
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
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Had a stream with bbc Scotland - commentators did sound a bit like Alex Ferguson.
Am assuming we all had the same one, too. I thought they were actually pretty good. Well, better than the dross we normally get, certainly refreshing to hear differing opinions and less of the usual predictable biased bilge.
I agree with this. It s the sound of the speech I refer to , like people coming from same part of a country sound alike - like the same dialect if you have that word. We learned English at school over here so my use of the language might do somtimes that I dont get what I want to say across in good way ish :)
Totally understood what you meant, was just an aside.
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Someone made a killing with bucket hats.
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Yes I thought the bbc Scotland commentators were excellent.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Its cringeworthy to be honest, the footage not the comments.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Its cringeworthy to be honest, the footage not the comments.
Yep.
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I noticed Darren having a go. Not about the punctuation or an off round.
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It is sad but it's seen as 'football bantz'. Same as some Hibs fans singing "Lizzie's in a box" at our fans.
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I don’t think the gap between leagues is that stark, Celtic would not get ripped apart by Everton or Sheffield United. (e.g.) Over two legs Burnley needed added time to get past Aberdeen a few years ago.
But the gap between the Glasgow teams and the rest of the Scottish premier league is wider than ever before. I mean! Brendon Rodgers left for Leicester, with Celtic on the brink of doing an (utterly ludicrous) treble treble.
The gulf we saw tonight is basically two gulfs, the top seven of the premier league and the rest, and the gulf between the top two of the Scottish premier league and the rest.
I guess post Brexit any chance of the Scottish clubs joining the English league must be more remote than ever? Sad to see Edinburgh clubs so weak.
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https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/lee-johnson-exudes-hibs-pride-27581149
The hatred really is still there isn’t it.
To be fair to Johnson - not something I like to do, as he's a prick - I don't see much wrong with what he said there.
Did I hear the commentator say something about him complaining to the match officials about Emery's positioning in the technical area, or something?
Actually seen it during the first few minutes, Emery never battered a eyelid
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Its cringeworthy to be honest, the footage not the comments.
It is and I don't really get going out of your way to wind up other fans of you don't have any previous animosity with them.
Its mostly Celtic fans crying about that though so fuck them.
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Texting my mate during the game, he lives in Northants and also follows the Cobblers. We were debating whether Hibs were as good as the Cobblers or about the same standard. When the commentators stated that they have a 'massive game' this weekend against Livingstone, you begin to realise just how low quality their Premier Division is. Makes me realise what a really bad appointment Gerrard was. You can only beat what is put in front of you and that was a demolition. We didn't need to get out of first gear.
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Wow, we’re above the latest from Man C and Harry K on Sky sports news!!!
Stunned.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Its cringeworthy to be honest, the footage not the comments.
Yep.
Why so?
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Here we go.
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Texting my mate during the game, he lives in Northants and also follows the Cobblers. We were debating whether Hibs were as good as the Cobblers or about the same standard. When the commentators stated that they have a 'massive game' this weekend against Livingstone, you begin to realise just how low quality their Premier Division is. Makes me realise what a really bad appointment Gerrard was. You can only beat what is put in front of you and that was a demolition. We didn't need to get out of first gear.
It was 1986 or something the last time someone other than Celtic or Rangers won the SPL. You've basically got to think about the Old Firm games and that's about it. Be interesting to see how Ange gets on at Spurs now, to see just how bad Gerrard was.
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Scotland is within the UK so hardly antagonistic, perhaps they wanted our friends in the highlands to join in? A natural sense of comradery if you will ;D
All together now: God Save our gra.... :-*
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Kamara and Luiz could keep the ball of someone in a phone box, and along with McGinn are also absolute units.
:)
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Texting my mate during the game, he lives in Northants and also follows the Cobblers. We were debating whether Hibs were as good as the Cobblers or about the same standard. When the commentators stated that they have a 'massive game' this weekend against Livingstone, you begin to realise just how low quality their Premier Division is. Makes me realise what a really bad appointment Gerrard was. You can only beat what is put in front of you and that was a demolition. We didn't need to get out of first gear.
It was 1986 or something the last time someone other than Celtic or Rangers won the SPL. You've basically got to think about the Old Firm games and that's about it. Be interesting to see how Ange gets on at Spurs now, to see just how bad Gerrard was.
Rodgers, in the main, did very well at Leicester too with an FA Cup, 2 x 5th? placed finishes (or bottled CL spots depending on what way you look at it). Jacked it in as soon as they stopped spending money. Ange already looks a good addition at Spurs, at least then have a semblance of shape about them these days. Gerrard, bar his name (and maybe Beale as coach) had nothing about him as a manager. Newcastle nearly went for him until Purslow's disastrous decision. We were spectacularly mugged off.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
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Texting my mate during the game, he lives in Northants and also follows the Cobblers. We were debating whether Hibs were as good as the Cobblers or about the same standard. When the commentators stated that they have a 'massive game' this weekend against Livingstone, you begin to realise just how low quality their Premier Division is. Makes me realise what a really bad appointment Gerrard was. You can only beat what is put in front of you and that was a demolition. We didn't need to get out of first gear.
It was 1986 or something the last time someone other than Celtic or Rangers won the SPL. You've basically got to think about the Old Firm games and that's about it. Be interesting to see how Ange gets on at Spurs now, to see just how bad Gerrard was.
Rodgers, in the main, did very well at Leicester too with an FA Cup, 2 x 5th? placed finishes (or bottled CL spots depending on what way you look at it). Jacked it in as soon as they stopped spending money. Ange already looks a good addition at Spurs, at least then have a semblance of shape about them these days. Gerrard, bar his name (and maybe Beale as coach) had nothing about him as a manager. Newcastle nearly went for him until Purslow's disastrous decision. We were spectacularly mugged off.
Rodgers is a good manager - he did well at Leicester, Liverpool, Swansea and celtic. He's not without flaws - but Villa is one of the hardest jobs in football (like newcastle and everton).
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
Absolutely, he’s the one player we have who can do that. I’d keep him as he’s immensely entertaining.
We didn’t get out of 2nd gear again, didn’t need to either. Even so, we can still be sloppy and careless, something we need to cut out. Diaby, wasn’t his best and Watkins should have 4 pr 5 to his name.
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Traore is is one of those where you never know if he'll be a waste of a shirt or give you some "shit, did you see that" moments. Sometimes both in the same game. It's frustrating, not ideal if you're aiming for the top end, but it also adds something for me.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
Absolutely, he’s the one player we have who can do that. I’d keep him as he’s immensely entertaining.
We didn’t get out of 2nd gear again, didn’t need to either. Even so, we can still be sloppy and careless, something we need to cut out. Diaby, wasn’t his best and Watkins should have 4 pr 5 to his name.
I know what you mean about Traore, tonight was the perfect example of when you bring him on, and tell him to do something batshit.
I thought Diaby did well to be honest, it was a really controlled performance all round, we realised we just needed a pre-season type of performance and that'd do, so we delivered it.
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Can't gauge much from tonight given how poor the opposition was. Burnley away will be a good test. Diaby was average I thought , Torres rusty at times and not the fastest which is a concern.
Positives was Watkins goals and confidence boost , Digne was superb and I thought Diego had a strong game. Kamara seems a bit intermittent, Luiz very good.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
He's not lazy. If he looks like he's doing nothing at any given time, I can assure you that couldn't be further from the truth. He's thinking. Thinking.
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It was only Hibs.
But then, it was only Varteks. And only Rapid Vienna. And only Trabzonspor. And only...
Helsingborgs, September 1996, is the one I recall most vividly. They had eleven men behind the ball at Villa Park, drew 1-1, then went through on away goals after holding us to a 0-0 draw in the second leg.
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I got the feeling that Diaby felt frustrated at not getting in on the scoring or being involved enough in the final third. McGinn was also quiet for long periods. I wonder if he felt sheepish about being in possession after all the booing when he got the ball in the early stages. Even if half in jest, that must have hurt him a little.
Kamara and Luiz were like two Rolls Royce(s). How they controlled the game was a joy to watch.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
He's not lazy. If he looks like he's doing nothing at any given time, I can assure you that couldn't be further from the truth. He's thinking. Thinking.
I’d be tempted to upgrade that to ‘scheming’.
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Digne was superb tonight. We're gonna need a full squad firing this season so give the subs and youth a shot in the second leg. There'll be sterner tests to come but a statement was made in Europe tonight.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
He's not lazy. If he looks like he's doing nothing at any given time, I can assure you that couldn't be further from the truth. He's thinking. Thinking.
I’d be tempted to upgrade that to ‘scheming’.
Plotting.
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I just saw a great comment from a hits fan
" Luiz and Kamara could keep the ball off someone in a phone box"
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Nice to wake up to such a result.
We looked good on the highlights. Hibernian looked abysmal, and their manager looks more and more ridiculous every time I see him. Like one of those Corinthian figurines from the 90's.
Fucking hell, imagine having to follow them week in week out.
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Some of the comments on that forum are very complimentary others are hilariously envious.
Not many of them ie none of them are particularly glowing toward Lee ‘two home ends’ Johnson.
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I don’t think the gap between leagues is that stark, Celtic would not get ripped apart by Everton or Sheffield United. (e.g.) Over two legs Burnley needed added time to get past Aberdeen a few years ago.
But the gap between the Glasgow teams and the rest of the Scottish premier league is wider than ever before. I mean! Brendon Rodgers left for Leicester, with Celtic on the brink of doing an (utterly ludicrous) treble treble.
The gulf we saw tonight is basically two gulfs, the top seven of the premier league and the rest, and the gulf between the top two of the Scottish premier league and the rest.
Agree totally with this. The Premier League has ended up creating a gulf between the two countries where the best Scottish teams have roughly the same budget/pulling power as a biggish Championship team, and the gulf between even mid table Premier League teams and those on the Championship is huge - remember how it felt like we couldn't possibly compete with the wages Bournemouth were offering FFS. But the Old Firm haven't helped that and have ended up creating a similar gulf between themselves & the rest of the SPL.
Real shame that there's clearly such a huge gulf in quality though. I don't think it's healthy for football at a whole
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I was surprised we were allowed to wear our shirt sponsor, also noticed there were no UEFA sleeve patches.
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That was really nice work from Traore to win the peno. Granted you could never really rely on a player that lazy but he could have his uses this season for us.
He's not lazy. If he looks like he's doing nothing at any given time, I can assure you that couldn't be further from the truth. He's thinking. Thinking.
I’d be tempted to upgrade that to ‘scheming’.
Plotting.
Contemplating….whilst smoking a cigarette, casually
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I just saw a great comment from a hits fan
" Luiz and Kamara could keep the ball off someone in a phone box"
that is superb...I must remember that
UTV
The Doc
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The game showed the gulf between us and the Scottish leagues. Shame really as i thought they would be more competitive.
However this is how a professional manager approaches these games, putting out a full strength team and really taking it seriously.
In McGinns interview after the game he was asked had it spoken about that Villa were one of the favourites to win the competition, and he said of course, that's what the manager wants.
Makes a refreshing change to hear that from a Villa manager, it not only instills belief in the players but also sets down a marker for the opposition.
I also thought the BBC Scotland commentary and overall game coverage was very good. In Emery we trust.
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Kamara is a world class midfielder. So much time on the ball and always there to pick up the pieces. Along with Luiz and McGinn there can’t be a better midfield in the country. This gives me huge hope for the rest of the season.
I still think we need another centre half, RB and a forward. Get these and we’ll be a serious team this season.
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Nice to wake up to such a result.
We looked good on the highlights. Hibernian looked abysmal, and their manager looks more and more ridiculous every time I see him. Like one of those Corinthian figurines from the 90's.
Fucking hell, imagine having to follow them week in week out.
It was only 7 years ago that premier league teams were doing that to us.
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It was only 2 weeks ago.
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Great result couldn't have asked for more.
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"scheming" - really made me laugh!
As others have said, what a professional performance from us. Maybe it's pessimism, but I think had we played that tie under most of our previous managers, that game would have been a lot closer. It's a joy to see us go and let our class shine.
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The Premier League has ended up creating a gulf between the two countries where the best Scottish teams have roughly the same budget/pulling power as a biggish Championship team, and the gulf between even mid table Premier League teams and those on the Championship is huge - remember how it felt like we couldn't possibly compete with the wages Bournemouth were offering FFS.
But the Old Firm haven't helped that and have ended up creating a similar gulf between themselves & the rest of the SPL.
Real shame that there's clearly such a huge gulf in quality though. I don't think it's healthy for football at a whole
Saw this posted on the Hibs forum.
[img width= height= alt=IMG-9011" border="0]https://i.ibb.co/7QyFSYR/IMG-9011.jpg[/img]
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
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I just saw a great comment from a hits fan
" Luiz and Kamara could keep the ball off someone in a phone box"
that is superb...I must remember that
UTV
The Doc
As good as it is and it is, it’s now at the point where you might need to explain what a phone box is.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
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And the facist firm led by a 6ft 4 black man.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
of course we are that's why we have the like of Paul McGrath and Peter McParland played for us and why we were followed by so many Paddy's from the Aston, Erdington and Perry Barr district and their children follow suit,let me at him hold me back, hold me coat
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
He needs to look up Lord Haw Haw, also known as William Joyce,
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
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Celtic seem to know almost as much about our supporters as Small Heath do.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
of course we are that's why we have the like of Paul McGrath and Peter McParland played for us and why we were followed by so many Paddy's from the Aston, Erdington and Perry Barr district and their children follow suit,let me at him hold me back, hold me coat
As a 2nd gen paddy from Erdington it irks me as well. Stench of nose bullshit is very strong here.
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
No worries Paddy.
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
No worries Paddy.
I don't think many of us are at all bothered by being called 'paddy's' any more than the English are by being called 'Limeys'. Neither carried much weight and both are antiquated terms. The National anthem in this context is a very different matter.
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
If you’re talking about the Celtic Fans Against Fascism twitter, she/he doesn’t say all Villa fans, but rather a specific group in the 90s, and says that there was also an Anti-fascist Action affiliated Villa supporter group at the time.
I remember the AFA lot. They had a fanzine, Well Prepared or something like that. They were connected to other AFA groups – Celtic being the most prominent.
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
Just banter and it should be sung at Anfield in a couple of weeks too.
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
Just banter and it should be sung at Anfield in a couple of weeks too.
My opinion remains the same
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
Just banter and it should be sung at Anfield in a couple of weeks too.
My opinion remains the same
I'm of the same opinion.
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Me too.
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Gstk irks me a lot, as does any Villa flag with the Rangers badge on it.
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The AFA and right-wing element at Villa lasted about five minutes.
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And me.
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Singing the national anthem, rugby, fascists, flower of Scotland, Celtic...
All fucking horrid
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If English people in England (Liverpool fans) get wound up by hearing other English people singing the English national anthem, i'm all for it. Love watching people getting triggered by such nonsense.
If Scottish or Irish people living in England do the same, then that's up to them.
Life's too short to be getting wound up by this stuff.
Yes i know all the history, and the scousers history, but it's still an easy wind up, and i don't know why people allow themselves to be riled by it.
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The AFA and right-wing element at Villa lasted about five minutes.
I was going to say Dave, I was a teenager at the time and was going every week and I was blissfully unaware of such things. You're probably looking at a group of a dozen people or so on either side.
Makes me laugh when people go about stuff like this years later and make it sound like the Gangs of New York.
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Most ‘bantz’ whether related to football or not is fucking moronic, but it makes those participating morons, not fascists. Most of the time.
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
Just banter and it should be sung at Anfield in a couple of weeks too.
It was cringeworthy last season - and the same people were singing “always the victims….” To Liverpool fans. They may well think it was a bit of “banter” but it’s neither original or funny, just a bit embarrassing.
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I don't like us singing the national anthem and I think it makes us look like dicks but I appreciate this is a personal opinion. I won't be joining in at Anfield for sure.
Just banter and it should be sung at Anfield in a couple of weeks too.
It was cringeworthy last season - and the same people were singing “always the victims….” To Liverpool fans. They may well think it was a bit of “banter” but it’s neither original or funny, just a bit embarrassing.
Exactly. "It's funny because it winds them up" could be the justification for all sorts of unpleasant shite. E.g. always the victims
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
of course we are that's why we have the like of Paul McGrath and Peter McParland played for us and why we were followed by so many Paddy's from the Aston, Erdington and Perry Barr district and their children follow suit,let me at him hold me back, hold me coat
As a 2nd gen paddy from Erdington it irks me as well. Stench of nose bullshit is very strong here.
you mean me?
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There was one particular fat lad in their end to the left getting very animated at GSTK. Looked like Mr Creosote was going to explode. Job jobbed really- isn't that the point of most of the ditties? Either Achey Breaky Heart to one player, European dance music for the club or some jibe/quip about the opposition's nearest and dearest.
Weird that people would be triggered by a song, but if you're of such delicate sensibilities to film fans of a club who aren't playing your team, in a different city and then cry all over Twitter for reach arounds from Kopites, then it probably says more about you.
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I don’t think the gap between leagues is that stark, Celtic would not get ripped apart by Everton or Sheffield United. (e.g.) Over two legs Burnley needed added time to get past Aberdeen a few years ago.
But the gap between the Glasgow teams and the rest of the Scottish premier league is wider than ever before. I mean! Brendon Rodgers left for Leicester, with Celtic on the brink of doing an (utterly ludicrous) treble treble.
The gulf we saw tonight is basically two gulfs, the top seven of the premier league and the rest, and the gulf between the top two of the Scottish premier league and the rest.
Agree totally with this. The Premier League has ended up creating a gulf between the two countries where the best Scottish teams have roughly the same budget/pulling power as a biggish Championship team, and the gulf between even mid table Premier League teams and those on the Championship is huge - remember how it felt like we couldn't possibly compete with the wages Bournemouth were offering FFS. But the Old Firm haven't helped that and have ended up creating a similar gulf between themselves & the rest of the SPL.
Real shame that there's clearly such a huge gulf in quality though. I don't think it's healthy for football at a whole
It's not the Premier League that's created the gulf, it's Rangers and Celtic. They utterly screwed the depth and quality of the Scottish game, then got all indignant when the world's broadcasters and billionaires didn't want to pay the same for a four-game season. It's why I get riled by people claiming one or other of them is better/less bad. Odious to the core and as anti-football as you can get. Anyone surprised that Hibs (at worst the fifth biggest club in what was a proper football country) are about League 1/2 standard hasn't been paying attention to the lower end of the pools coupon for the last 35 years.
Predictable Old Firm rant over, yesterday was weird. I reckon the 96 League Cup final was the last time I've felt so horizontal watching the Villa. It really was first gear all the way.
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If English people in England (Liverpool fans) get wound up by hearing other English people singing the English national anthem, i'm all for it. Love watching people getting triggered by such nonsense.
Yep
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There's always some little part of the day that makes you chuckle. The prison van going past with the occupants banging on the inside, while being serenaded with going down, is probably that memory from yesterday afternoon.
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The AFA and right-wing element at Villa lasted about five minutes.
I remember seeing some blokes who I guess we're in their 30s in Crombies and wearing roses trying to look intimidating at the Arsenal game on St George's Day 1994 ( the game where The Holte gave Ian Wright loads of stick because he would be suspended for the Cup Winners Cup Final and he then scored a last minute winner) and I never noticed them ever again.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
of course we are that's why we have the like of Paul McGrath and Peter McParland played for us and why we were followed by so many Paddy's from the Aston, Erdington and Perry Barr district and their children follow suit,let me at him hold me back, hold me coat
As a 2nd gen paddy from Erdington it irks me as well. Stench of nose bullshit is very strong here.
you mean me?
No brother, the 'Celtic' fan with the in depth knowledge of Villa fans political views in the 90's.
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https://twitter.com/Class1Action/status/1694452667806798130
What a bunch of absolute fannies… 😂
#SlaveMentality #RoyalRadges
#VillaForelockTuggers
Is there such hand wringing when the Rugby wankers sing it every year up there? Facism indeed. They will sing Flower of Scotland or other such dirge down here and most will recognise it as the attempted wind up it is.
Some Celtic fan there trying to claim we're historically fascist, this the same club that were chucking bananas and much more at Mark Walters?
of course we are that's why we have the like of Paul McGrath and Peter McParland played for us and why we were followed by so many Paddy's from the Aston, Erdington and Perry Barr district and their children follow suit,let me at him hold me back, hold me coat
As a 2nd gen paddy from Erdington it irks me as well. Stench of nose bullshit is very strong here.
you mean me?
No brother, the 'Celtic' fan with the in depth knowledge of Villa fans political views in the 90's.
Thank you, they started to get on my tits with some of the shit they come out with and I follow them, although it's probably just a few like any other club support 👍👏
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There's always some little part of the day that makes you chuckle. The prison van going past with the occupants banging on the inside, while being serenaded with going down, is probably that memory from yesterday afternoon.
Yes, the off-the-cuff stuff like that is often far funnier.
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
After enduring so much anti-Irish shit growing up in the late 70s and throughout the 80s I completely agree with this.
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
After enduring so much anti-Irish shit growing up in the late 70s and throughout the 80s I completely agree with this.
I need to calm down, blood pressure going through the roof
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The only time the dreadful British anthem should be sang, is when playing the Aussies at Cricket.
"God Save Your King"
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
After enduring so much anti-Irish shit growing up in the late 70s and throughout the 80s I completely agree with this.
I need to calm down, blood pressure going through the roof
Your blood pressure is through the roof because you were called out, in 2023, on use of a highly prejudiced term applied to a whole people?
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The only time the dreadful British anthem should be sang, is when playing the Aussies at Cricket.
"God Save Your King"
A truly uninspiring piece of music, thankfully brief and not something to be proud of at all IMO
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It was like an exhibition game or a dads against lads game. Lee Johnson is still a vile ******. Well done Ollie for the goals. Why hasn't Digne played like those last 2 games, all the time?
Lee Johnson was whining to the 4th official at one point about how Emery was standing. He was stationary in his own technical area...
And Digne doesn't play like that all the time because he is never afforded as much space to work in as he has the past two games.
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The only time the dreadful British anthem should be sang, is when playing the Aussies at Cricket.
"God Save Your King"
personally I think it is a great piece of music, just spoilt by the rubbish lyrics....
UTV
The Doc
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That's the second time in a week someone has referred to Irish people as "paddy's" [sic]. Can you stop it? If nothing else it somewhat weakens your 'we're not racist' defence.
100%.
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If English people in England (Liverpool fans) get wound up by hearing other English people singing the English national anthem, i'm all for it. Love watching people getting triggered by such nonsense.
Yep
It was absolutely embarrassing both inside and outside of Anfield in May. I’d had a few beers in the sun and even with all that, i couldnt bear the idea I was associated with a bunch of twats. The idea that its all just bantz is bullshit as well, for a lot its wrapped up purposely or even only half knowingly with right wing shite.
And Im Irish decent and would rather me or mine are not referred to as paddys either. Irish will do.
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And Digne doesn't play like that all the time because he is never afforded as much space to work in as he has the past two games.
I would also argue that he was allowed to be the attacking fullback for the first time in ages rather then Cash. You look at the Everton match and he was almost a winger when we were attacking.
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There's an awful lot of pearl clutching going on about a national anthem. The lad who started it was half way through a bottle of MD20/20 and a seemingly never ending supply of cider. He started more songs about Marvelous Nakamba and John Carew.
He isn't a twat, just a lad who appeared to be enjoying himself. Singing your anthem in your own country, isn't a twattish thing to do, albeit not something we go into as Brits, compared to our puritanical cousins. It was likely a wind up, in the ground it certainly seemed to wind some of the Hibbbbbbs fans up. Hibbbbbbs fans sang about Lizzie being in a box- nobody cares/d. It's just silly football chanting; the whole culture is silly; why we care, why we bother, why we pay, why a couple hundred Villa fans are singing a Shakira song (I think it's her anyway) about Leon Bailey at full pelt in an Irish bar at midnight, much to the delight and amusement of some Canadians.
Lighten the fuck up, it's later than you think.
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There's an awful lot of pearl clutching going on about a national anthem. The lad who started it was half way through a bottle of MD20/20 and a seemingly never ending supply of cider. He started more songs about Marvelous Nakamba and John Carew.
He isn't a twat, just a lad who appeared to be enjoying himself. Singing your anthem in your own country, isn't a twattish thing to do, albeit not something we go into as Brits, compared to our puritanical cousins. It was likely a wind up, in the ground it certainly seemed to wind some of the Hibbbbbbs fans up. Hibbbbbbs fans sang about Lizzie being in a box- nobody cares/d. It's just silly football chanting; the whole culture is silly; why we care, why we bother, why we pay, why a couple hundred Villa fans are singing a Shakira song (I think it's her anyway) about Leon Bailey at full pelt in an Irish bar at midnight, much to the delight and amusement of some Canadians.
Lighten the fuck up, it's later than you think.
Bravo
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True that.
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There's an awful lot of pearl clutching going on about a national anthem. The lad who started it was half way through a bottle of MD20/20 and a seemingly never ending supply of cider. He started more songs about Marvelous Nakamba and John Carew.
He isn't a twat, just a lad who appeared to be enjoying himself. Singing your anthem in your own country, isn't a twattish thing to do, albeit not something we go into as Brits, compared to our puritanical cousins. It was likely a wind up, in the ground it certainly seemed to wind some of the Hibbbbbbs fans up. Hibbbbbbs fans sang about Lizzie being in a box- nobody cares/d. It's just silly football chanting; the whole culture is silly; why we care, why we bother, why we pay, why a couple hundred Villa fans are singing a Shakira song (I think it's her anyway) about Leon Bailey at full pelt in an Irish bar at midnight, much to the delight and amusement of some Canadians.
Lighten the fuck up, it's later than you think.
Bravo
I didnt say the lad in Edinburgh was a twat, i said a lot of those outside of Anfield appeared in my opinion to be twats, i should of clarified, combining the bantzy national anthem wind up, crazy drunken kids, what a laff, with other classics about slums, looking in bins for something to eat, and signing on, brilliant fun. But as you say its all part of the culture, bantz and all that. The suns out in Brum, ill spend the remainder of the day lightening up.
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As one of half Irish/half English descent (Donegal republicans one side, brothers who served her Maj during the troubles on the other), I would humbly observe that libertarianism is just as dangerous as sectarianism.
I may well be a woke lefty snowflake l, but I don't think it's an especially good Idea to piss petrol onto smouldering fires.
"Pearl clutching' tho. Dear Lord.
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You're getting upset about a song a few months ago and using bantz like some edgelord. Some of you give the impression you were born in your mid 50s with a taste for nutty mild, yet if you read this site long enough you get to enjoy tales of youthful hijinks. Not that a brief singing of GSTK is really that.
A few things to note;
Bucket hats. Now there is a good wheeze, the Manc must have sold thousands of pounds worth and even my Wigan supporting better half succumbed to the fashion craze.
Diaby song- good.
Videos- you can see me on them if you've ever wondered what I look like.
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There's an awful lot of pearl clutching going on about a national anthem. The lad who started it was half way through a bottle of MD20/20 and a seemingly never ending supply of cider. He started more songs about Marvelous Nakamba and John Carew.
He isn't a twat, just a lad who appeared to be enjoying himself. Singing your anthem in your own country, isn't a twattish thing to do, albeit not something we go into as Brits, compared to our puritanical cousins. It was likely a wind up, in the ground it certainly seemed to wind some of the Hibbbbbbs fans up. Hibbbbbbs fans sang about Lizzie being in a box- nobody cares/d. It's just silly football chanting; the whole culture is silly; why we care, why we bother, why we pay, why a couple hundred Villa fans are singing a Shakira song (I think it's her anyway) about Leon Bailey at full pelt in an Irish bar at midnight, much to the delight and amusement of some Canadians.
Lighten the fuck up, it's later than you think.
Bravo
You are correct about the anthem, also I stick my hand up to being a twat on many occasions when I was young, yes he's enjoying himself like many of us in our younger days, worse things then worrying about a lad singing it
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You seem to be very upset about people being upset about it Ads
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I'm irritated by hypocrits having a go at our away support based on some total balloon on Twitter. The response outside the pub was a few tourists taking pictures. No feelings were harmed in the making of that video, save the denziens of self aggrandising Celtic fans and on here.
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Re Bucket Hats. I purchased mine whilst holidaying on the Norfolk Broads in 1970. It is now exactly 53 years old and literally falling apart but every spring it makes its appearance for gardening purposes. I love it almost as much as being a trend-setter. :)
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As one of half Irish/half English descent (Donegal republicans one side, brothers who served her Maj during the troubles on the other), I would humbly observe that libertarianism is just as dangerous as sectarianism.
I may well be a woke lefty snowflake l, but I don't think it's an especially good Idea to piss petrol onto smouldering fires.
"Pearl clutching' tho. Dear Lord.
Lovely county
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And Digne doesn't play like that all the time because he is never afforded as much space to work in as he has the past two games.
I would also argue that he was allowed to be the attacking fullback for the first time in ages rather then Cash. You look at the Everton match and he was almost a winger when we were attacking.
Im not sure thats the first team he has "allowed" to be attacking, but he 'could' be more attacking & did almost become a winger in both recent games...
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Another from Hibs.net : "I took one of my nephews to his first ever game last night.... and he's already decided he's a Villa Fan." :D
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We do tend to set up with one attacking full-back, and a full-back who drifts into a back-three when required. Since Moreno came, he's been the attacking one, and Cash has been more defensive-minded on the other flank. I don't know what the stats would say, but I'd guess Cash's involvements in the final third have been far fewer since Moreno got into the team. When Moreno got injured, Digne came in, but the attacking full-back role seemed to be rotated a bit more, with one or other of them being used more offensively. The last two games, Digne has clearly been given more licence to get forward. And to great success. Three assists in one European game would have him on the back pages if he was Alexander-Arnold.
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Our away support is fantastic. But the dicks at Liverpool last season - the ones queuing up before the game, checking that the Liverpool fans they were taunting didn’t look hard enough to pile over and slap them - were embarrassing. Singing Hillsborough-related songs to kids and tourists - up there with kicking puppies as far as this pearl clutcher is concerned
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
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We do tend to set up with one attacking full-back, and a full-back who drifts into a back-three when required. Since Moreno came, he's been the attacking one, and Cash has been more defensive-minded on the other flank. I don't know what the stats would say, but I'd guess Cash's involvements in the final third have been far fewer since Moreno got into the team. When Moreno got injured, Digne came in, but the attacking full-back role seemed to be rotated a bit more, with one or other of them being used more offensively. The last two games, Digne has clearly been given more licence to get forward. And to great success. Three assists in one European game would have him on the back pages if he was Alexander-Arnold.
That's the thing for me. GSTK against Hibs is one thing; against Liverpool it's the start of something that ends with Hillsborough chants.
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Our away support is fantastic. But the dicks at Liverpool last season - the ones queuing up before the game, checking that the Liverpool fans they were taunting didn’t look hard enough to pile over and slap them - were embarrassing. Singing Hillsborough-related songs to kids and tourists - up there with kicking puppies as far as this pearl clutcher is concerned
Singing about death and tragedy is beyond the pale.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
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I'm irritated by hypocrits having a go at our away support based on some total balloon on Twitter. The response outside the pub was a few tourists taking pictures. No feelings were harmed in the making of that video, save the denziens of self aggrandising Celtic fans and on here.
Id rather not be called a hypocrite if thats aimed at me, you don’t even know me. And Im
Not having a go at all of the away support, just some of them particularly outside Anfield that day. Anyway, life is really too short.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible.
And its this fantastic method that means I still can't remember any of the 2015 FA Cup Final.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible.
And its this fantastic method that means I still can't remember any of the 2015 FA Cup Final.
Haha. There's always an exception.
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
Yeah I made a very weird noise when he took the ball down like that. Outside of his boot too, v saucy
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
He didn't so much the defender to the shops, more like a 2 year quest along the Silk Road to find the secrets of alchemy
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
Dougie isn't it judging from the beard.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
i said yesterday , looking on twitter at those who can't stop themselves taking pictures and posting what they are doing all day, some fans were on the sauce at 7am on the way up to Edinburgh , i just don't get it , I'm no killjoy but it just seems like some sort of illness or a Villa away game becomes an excuse to drink all day and get absolutely hammered
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible.
And its this fantastic method that means I still can't remember any of the 2015 FA Cup Final.
Lucky git.
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We do tend to set up with one attacking full-back, and a full-back who drifts into a back-three when required. Since Moreno came, he's been the attacking one, and Cash has been more defensive-minded on the other flank. I don't know what the stats would say, but I'd guess Cash's involvements in the final third have been far fewer since Moreno got into the team. When Moreno got injured, Digne came in, but the attacking full-back role seemed to be rotated a bit more, with one or other of them being used more offensively. The last two games, Digne has clearly been given more licence to get forward. And to great success. Three assists in one European game would have him on the back pages if he was Alexander-Arnold.
That's the thing for me. GSTK against Hibs is one thing; against Liverpool it's the start of something that ends with Hillsborough chants.
I didnt know King Charles was anything to do with Hillsborough?
I know they are quite militant about the establishment, with good reason, but he is theirs as well as our King. Not sure how the link is made between national anthem and singing about the tragedy?
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We do tend to set up with one attacking full-back, and a full-back who drifts into a back-three when required. Since Moreno came, he's been the attacking one, and Cash has been more defensive-minded on the other flank. I don't know what the stats would say, but I'd guess Cash's involvements in the final third have been far fewer since Moreno got into the team. When Moreno got injured, Digne came in, but the attacking full-back role seemed to be rotated a bit more, with one or other of them being used more offensively. The last two games, Digne has clearly been given more licence to get forward. And to great success. Three assists in one European game would have him on the back pages if he was Alexander-Arnold.
That's the thing for me. GSTK against Hibs is one thing; against Liverpool it's the start of something that ends with Hillsborough chants.
I didnt know King Charles was anything to do with Hillsborough?
I know they are quite militant about the establishment, with good reason, but he is theirs as well as our King. Not sure how the link is made between national anthem and singing about the tragedy?
Because some of our supporters think it's all about banter and winding up the Scousers.
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What a brilliant trip.
Left on Tuesday afternoon with two hours notice of tickets and just got back today.
Brilliant place, absolutely love it. Sat in the home end having to suppress the joy of seeing five goals go in!
My lad has been to two away games in the home end since he started going to games.
Sunderland 0 Villa 4 and last night. Maybe if we do this on a regular basis, we’ll be European champions again…
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
information I got was that Villa were originally offered 1100 tickets,
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Singing the national anthem, rugby, fascists, flower of Scotland, Celtic...
All fucking horrid
Yes, yes and yes with fucking bells on.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
This. Embarrassing that they have Villa colours.
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
Dougie isn't it judging from the beard.
Well, a Brazilian they all look the same😂
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Our away support is fantastic. But the dicks at Liverpool last season - the ones queuing up before the game, checking that the Liverpool fans they were taunting didn’t look hard enough to pile over and slap them - were embarrassing. Singing Hillsborough-related songs to kids and tourists - up there with kicking puppies as far as this pearl clutcher is concerned
Singing songs about football related tragedies such as Munich, Bradford and Hillsborough is completely unacceptable and shouldn't happen (don't want to venture into whataboutery, but it is a lot more prevalent at other clubs). It's a bit different though to singing the national anthem to wind up some Scottish and Liverpool fans.
Though I did spend some time up in Scotland a few years ago and learnt that the two Edinburgh sides are the Glasgow sides lite in some ways. I presume that the Villa fans singing the national anthem were doing so with an English / Scottish rivalry in mind, whereas it can have more of a sectarian link up there.
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
information I got was that Villa were originally offered 1100 tickets,
Villa were given the UEFA statutory 5% for away fans.
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Our away support is fantastic. But the dicks at Liverpool last season - the ones queuing up before the game, checking that the Liverpool fans they were taunting didn’t look hard enough to pile over and slap them - were embarrassing. Singing Hillsborough-related songs to kids and tourists - up there with kicking puppies as far as this pearl clutcher is concerned
Singing songs about football related tragedies such as Munich, Bradford and Hillsborough is completely unacceptable and shouldn't happen (don't want to venture into whataboutery, but it is a lot more prevalent at other clubs). It's a bit different though to singing the national anthem to wind up some Scottish and Liverpool fans.
Is Liverpool's dislike of the anthem not tied to the Hillsborough investigation/cover up though? Or am I confusing things.
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
information I got was that Villa were originally offered 1100 tickets,
Villa were given the UEFA statutory 5% for away fans.
Hibs were prepared to offer us 3000 on the proviso that we’d do the same for them in the return leg. We said no.
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Our away support is fantastic. But the dicks at Liverpool last season - the ones queuing up before the game, checking that the Liverpool fans they were taunting didn’t look hard enough to pile over and slap them - were embarrassing. Singing Hillsborough-related songs to kids and tourists - up there with kicking puppies as far as this pearl clutcher is concerned
Singing songs about football related tragedies such as Munich, Bradford and Hillsborough is completely unacceptable and shouldn't happen (don't want to venture into whataboutery, but it is a lot more prevalent at other clubs). It's a bit different though to singing the national anthem to wind up some Scottish and Liverpool fans.
Is Liverpool's dislike of the anthem not tied to the Hillsborough investigation/cover up though? Or am I confusing things.
It's a part of this whole "Scouse not English" narrative some of their fans espouse. It's a recent thing as well, as I went a neutral to the FA Cup Final in 2012 when they played Chelsea (couldn't have been more neutral at a game as I dislike both teams immensely!!) and they didn't boo the anthem then.
It's up to them if they want to boo the anthem, but they should realise that they are going to wind up other people by booing it and then can't complain when it's sung at them to wind them up in return.
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Vaguely remember Villa fans in the away end at Anfield in the cup back in 1992 signing Sweet Chariot (assume there was a big rugby match on around the same time). Natives booed that one as well. Can't say I blame 'em.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
Hey, I'm a man who never quite grew up. Don't tar us all with the same brush...
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I went back on HibeesBounce for a look and the first post I alighted on opined that Villa shouldn't even be in the ECL because England have enough teams in Europe already.
I just left again, and probably won't go back...
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
A high proportion of absolute arseholes. Pissed as farts/coked up or both. I’ve never understood the desire to stand up against the fence separating fans flapping your hands like a twat to the away fans.
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
information I got was that Villa were originally offered 1100 tickets,
Villa were given the UEFA statutory 5% for away fans.
Hibs were prepared to offer us 3000 on the proviso that we’d do the same for them in the return leg. We said no.
Not what I heard from a good source and if that offer was made why deprive our own fans of tickets for the return match
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Just a note, Bert makes us all happy and mad in almost equal measure. While the skill to win the penalty was great, the way he killed the ball from Diego’s (I think) brilliant long pass was sublime.
FF to 2:34
https://youtu.be/Ww1GwTRWPUg?si=AtE9ZNAxRsUaJu48
Dougie isn't it judging from the beard.
Well, a Brazilian they all look the same😂
You have met Gary (Brazilian Villan) right?!
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
A high proportion of absolute arseholes. Pissed as farts/coked up or both. I’ve never understood the desire to stand up against the fence separating fans flapping your hands like a twat to the away fans.
Hopefully we're in a group with teams from Siberia Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. That will sort the wheat from the chaff
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible.
And its this fantastic method that means I still can't remember any of the 2015 FA Cup Final.
There was no 2015 FA Cup Final. Or 2000 one.
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Great day and night. Don’t think there was one villa fan who disgraced themselves. Complete overkill on here over GSTK
Got to say the Villa as a club let hardcore fans down taking a paltry 1.000 when offered 3,000
Some issues with passing on tickets and this shows up a wider issue with resale but again villa are not whiter than white themselves over ticket distribution
information I got was that Villa were originally offered 1100 tickets,
Villa were given the UEFA statutory 5% for away fans.
Hibs were prepared to offer us 3000 on the proviso that we’d do the same for them in the return leg. We said no.
Not what I heard from a good source and if that offer was made why deprive our own fans of tickets for the return match
Well, it's what I heard from an extremely reliable source. We said no as it was less admin for the staff and much easier to control 1078 fans rather than 3000.
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Unfortunately, you've got some fans who go to away games just for the sole purpose of drinking as much as humanly possible. They're men that haven't quite grown up.
This. Embarrassing that they have Villa colours.
They would all have had a shock arriving in ground....no alcohol on sale at all.