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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2023, 04:09:19 PM
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Nice and easy. If there's one side you want to play after being twatted on opening day it's at home to Everton. We were good, they were awful.
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I like when we play Everton
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That was an absolute piece of piss. Still managed to get 2 injuries from it mind.
McGinn MOTM by a country mile.
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4-0 and we didn't have to get out of 2nd gear.
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As expected, nice to get up and running for the season and pleased for Duran to break his duck. Everton absolutely woeful, they'll struggle all season.
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Get the fuck in. Mcginn phenomenal.
Digne excellent.
No weak link
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As good as last week was bad.
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excellent today
9th
well done Villa
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All good.
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Very stop start second half with the injuries and I'm kind of disappointed we eased off a bit but then on the other hand it's bloody lovely to see us control games like that. Big plusses are the performances of the midfield and a goal for Duran, if anything Everton look worse than last season.
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Excellent stuff. Completely bossed it. Digne and McGinn were excellent, Kamara had his intensity back. Pau looked commanding. Diaby is going to be a star and special mention for Bailey - he was brilliant.
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Good response after last week but can't get carried away, Everton were rubbish.
Injury to Coutinho puts a bit of a dampner on it too. I know he's not as integral as the other injuries, but it feels like one thing after another lately, injuries wise.
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Seems post the match thread with a normal title and normal business resumed. It isn't rocket science....... ;)
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Rather easy.
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Long may the most played English football fixture remain that way (and I don't mean we're both relegated).
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I never want Everton to go down
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Can we only play Bailey at home please?
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Here’s the thing, would Unai and co have signed Ty, EMI and Phil? Because it looks to me today that we didn’t need them
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It's a cliche but that really was the perfect game after Newcastle.
Low intensity team who have so little quality nowadays at both ends. Basically Everton are what we were a decade ago and they will go down eventually.
Midfield was on it today and we really should've scored about 8.
Diaby will be a special and gamechanging player for us. Only disappointment is Ollie seems to have started this season below part, average hold up play and as the season progresses we can't be having our main CF missing chances like the one Diaby put on a plate in second half.
Luiz also showed him how to take a penalty.
On to Edinburgh....
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Tremendous first half performance. Dropped off a bit second half but didn't matter and they kindly put some goals on a plate for us. I assume the raft of substitutions means we're going strong on Wednesday
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Goal difference 0, dignity restored, good stuff you Villa boys.
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Great performance and result. That throw in for Duran’s goal was one of the most laughably bad things I’ve ever seen. You could see it coming before the throw was even taken.
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What a difference a week makes. Thats just the tonic we needed .
McGinn different gravy today. Torres very good and Diego like a truck when he came on
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Absolutely coasted that game from start to finish, so easy, and we had plenty more gears to move up into if they had been required.
Good to see Duran scoring, too.
Worrying seeing Coutinho and Bailey injured, mind.
Also nice for Torres to have a leisurely, easier introduction. He seemed to be doing a lot of talking and organising, too.
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I had a gut feeling all weekend that we'd get beaten today. Mystic Meg I am not... thankfully.
Well done Villa.
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I have a feeling we're either going to be really good and win well, or will be shit. One extreme or the other.
Yeah this definitely won't be a meh day, it will be an extreme.
At least it was the good extreme!
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Philigene signing for Burnley
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Philigene signing for Burnley
Rumours are Hull
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As I said.
We will bounce back and I can see us putting 4 past Everton.
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Very good performance against an admittedly very poor side. Could and should have had at least a couple more goals too.
Does the Coutinho injury stop the sale of Aaron Ramsey now, or do we have to go back into the transfer market?
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Really pleased for Bailey, great performance.
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Really pleased for Bailey, great performance.
Did well after a shaky start . Now injured again. Him and Coutinho are made of glass
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Philigene signing for Burnley
Rumours are Hull
not much difference when Ive been there pissed on a night out
didnt catch it all , not sure if its a loan or buy back neither
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We've never beaten Everton 5 times in a r.......
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An unexpected highlights of the TV coverage was an Everton sub trying to tie a bow in his hair.
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As I said.
We will bounce back and I can see us putting 4 past Everton.
Insight!
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Everton were shite, but in days of yore, we'd have huffed and puffed to a narrow win and been hanging in the last 10 mins as they played Dycheball, lobbing crosses into our box.
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That was incredibly easy as a contest that we will ever likely play.
Everton were truly terrible all over the field, except for leaving a foot in on our players.
The media might like Dyche, because he makes them laugh & is good for a quote, but his "football" belongs in a bygone era & their attempts to be "physical" is nothing more than "NFL bounty-gate" in the Premier League.
And they succeeded injuring at least two of our players today. One with what looks like another serious knee injury, & the other looks like another broken foot.
Managers like Dyche, Pulis, etc, have no place in the modern game.
And in small spells today, their "bounty-gate" tactic seemed to work as we dropped the tempo from 1st gear, to neutral, for fear of getting injured by one of their thugs in a game that was over as soon as we scored.
We didn't go up in gears today from 1st. We didn't have to.
We went through the motions in 1st gear & smashed them anyway.
There were spells where we played some nice football.
Everyone did their jobs pretty much from the starters, except Watkins. Whose touch was missing, along with his finishing. There are times when we have to start looking at alternative options. Christ, even Bailey scored today, even with him attempting not to by smashing it at the centre of the keeper. Fortunately it went through his legs.
Tielemans looked good when he came on. Duran getting his goal was good to see. Might be the start of him getting a bit more game-time. His tracking back was good to see too.
Digne played well with all the space in the universe out in the left. Some of his crossing was really good. Cash could do with a few lessons...
Overall, a great result.
Its also great that we didn't have to exert too much energy to get the win. And could bring on a few subs.
More injuries were a bit of a shitter... They looked serious too...
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Goal difference 0, dignity restored, good stuff you Villa boys.
Indeed. A footballing lift after England earlier! ;)
As for Everton: it's going to be another long, long season for them. Wonder if they'll Actually Go Down this time?
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Everton must hate us. Since we came back up we've had their number every time. Even the game we drew we should've won.
They're going down by the way. Shite.
Oh well.
Class from Villa. Diaby is the real deal. Can't believe he's ours tbh.
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Controlled the game from start to finish, lovely stuff. Thought everyone did well though Luiz and Digne were my MOTM's and a special mention for agent Young :)
Wish we could play them every week.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-everton/report/482601
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Good performance against a poor side. The midfield were so much better this week, especially McGinn. Digne was superb first half, great to see Duran get off the mark. Konsa excellent, and there’s something about Carlos, I think he’s going to be a really good player for us.
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Proof today that we are much better than last week. That last weeks score didn’t correctly reflect the game. That we will be much better than most of this division. With the right additions and subtractions between now and the end of the window we will again compete at the right end of the table.
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Good performance against a poor side. The midfield were so much better this week, especially McGinn. Digne was superb first half, great to see Duran get off the mark. Konsa excellent, and there’s something about Carlos, I think he’s going to be a really good player for us.
Agreed, Carlos looks really good. Hopefully bringing him back slowly was the right move and he's going to go from strength to strength now.
He has a lot of strength to go round!
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Is Bailey injured? I thought it looked like a bump that he would have run off but he was due to come off.
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A mention for Bailey too, most of us moaning about him starting but a goal, an impressive assist and a generally good performance otherwise. Certainly showed he’s a good bet for home games when we’re likely to be on the front foot but I’m still unsure he’s a wise choice away for the most part. If he keeps that up he’s got a part to play in a long season.
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A stroll in the park. Nice game for Pau to get his first start in and Carlos looked commanding albeit against a powder puff attack.
Wasn’t pleased when Duran can on instead of Archer, which made me think the writing is in the wall for him. Then with one of the worst touches you’re likely to see Duran scores after a minute.
Shame for Phil.
Good to get 3 points but we should have scored a few more really.
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As an Everton fan, I saw some promising signs. We are just 15 players short of having a good squad.
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Is Bailey injured? I thought it looked like a bump that he would have run off but he was due to come off.
He was limping while walking off at the end of the game.
Could be another broken bone in his foot, like Jacob Ramsey had.
Similar fouls for each injury.
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
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I didn't see the game so can anyone confirm that a round of applause was held for that poor Everton lad that was killed at work on the new ground last week?
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I didn't see the game so can anyone confirm that a round of applause was held for that poor Everton lad that was killed at work on the new ground last week?
Yes, a credit to both sets of fans,
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
Beat me to it
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A great result but we dont look as fluid and good as last part of last season (yet) I think. Everton looked so bad that the result may be more part of that than we where excellent. I got the impression that we where not ready when playing Valencia and did the same at Newcastle, today didnt take it totaly away. Might be down to injuries but Diaby is as good as Buendia, Torres as Mings and Tielemans as Ramsey and Digne as Moreno imo so Unai (should) have found a way by now. Burnley and Anfield coming up will be interesting. (Chuk scoring for Chelsea as I m typing and I dont like it)
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Classy quote that. Must be proud......ffs
Great win and just what we needed
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I didn't see the game so can anyone confirm that a round of applause was held for that poor Everton lad that was killed at work on the new ground last week?
https://twitter.com/Crosby71/status/1693256383653724647
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I thought Dyche would make them more difficult to beat , not so far
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Some ratings from me:
Martinez: 8
Cash: I dont rate him
Konsa: 7
Torres: 6,75
Digne: 8
Kamara: 7
Luiz: 8
Mc Ginn: 7,5
Bailey: 7,5
Diaby: 7,5
Watkins: 6,5
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
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Thanks PWS. Respect to all.
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As easy a win as we’ll have all season.
Kamara superb for me, he picked up every loose ball and had that swagger of a top player.
Torres looks a very good centre half and we played the second half like a training game.
I thought the ref let them dish out a few nasty tackles after we’d gone 3 up, some of which we luckily got out the way of.
18 minutes injury time. I’m not sure Everton needed them but I suppose this is another change we’ll have to get used to.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
Danjuma off the bench would be good
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd say Young but I think be might still be playing for us.
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Atmosphere seemed a bit flat at times today
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd take Onana as a replacement for Donk as well but that the lot.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
Ashley Young as backup RB (as long as he doesn't take any throw-ins).
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How did Diego fare when he came on?
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How did Diego fare when he came on?
Looked good, very strong. Got slightly wrong side of Maupay at one point and just muscled him off it.
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How did Diego fare when he came on?
I thought he looked very good, his power gives us something different and will be needed at times.
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How did Diego fare when he came on?
Looked good, very strong. Got slightly wrong side of Maupay at one point and just muscled him off it.
I agree looked good, strong and assured. One long pass that didnt make it. Easy game to come into though.
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Pickford's a thug.
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Torres looks good. Very composed.
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Atmosphere seemed a bit flat at times today
Nothing more than a training game in the sun.
I just sat/stood and watched because there was never a chance they were going to get anywhere near us.
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Atmosphere seemed a bit flat at times today
Not at all. It was just very easy with no jeopardy at all.
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Pickford's challenge on Ollie which led to the penalty was reminiscent of the one which put Van Dyck out for the season.
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Pickford's a thug.
I know footballers regularly make themselves look silly complaining about correct decisions made by the ref, but how Pickford had the audacity to moan about the most stonewall penalty you will see is incredible. He absolutely clattered Watkins and then went on to the ref as though it was some sort of massive injustice.
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Pickford's a thug.
I know footballers regularly make themselves look silly complaining about correct decisions made by the ref, but how Pickford had the audacity to moan about the most stonewall penalty you will see is incredible. He absolutely clattered Watkins and then went on to the ref as though it was some sort of massive injustice.
The arrogance of being undroppable for both club and country.
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Torres looks good. Very composed.
He does, he's vision and a good pass, but he did get turned somewhat uncomfortably once in the first half. More Maypole island than the sixpence I expected.
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An easy and rather comfortable win. We didnt even get out of second gear. It was important to bounce back after last week. Everton were shambolic but even so there were some promising performances out there.
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Pickford's a thug.
I know footballers regularly make themselves look silly complaining about correct decisions made by the ref, but how Pickford had the audacity to moan about the most stonewall penalty you will see is incredible. He absolutely clattered Watkins and then went on to the ref as though it was some sort of massive injustice.
The arrogance of being undroppable for both club and country.
I'd have booked him purely for complaining. Then again if I was a ref i'd book players for trying to claim a throw in that wasn't theirs
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Not a great game to judge the defence on, but a good 90 minutes to get Torres in there and get some communication and what not happening. He seemed to be leading things a bit, which is good to see.
I'd start the same back 4 against Hibs, assuming Digne is still here, give them another run out together before Burnley next week. By the time we get to Livedpool at Anfield they should be a well gelled unit.
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"We went down to 10 men early when Neal Maupay came on".
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Not a great game to judge the defence on, but a good 90 minutes to get Torres in there and get some communication and what not happening. He seemed to be leading things a bit, which is good to see.
I'd start the same back 4 against Hibs, assuming Digne is still here, give them another run out together before Burnley next week. By the time we get to Livedpool at Anfield they should be a well gelled unit.
I'd be looking to keep Digne. His delivery was very good today.
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
NO
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Not a great game to judge the defence on, but a good 90 minutes to get Torres in there and get some communication and what not happening. He seemed to be leading things a bit, which is good to see.
I'd start the same back 4 against Hibs, assuming Digne is still here, give them another run out together before Burnley next week. By the time we get to Livedpool at Anfield they should be a well gelled unit.
I'd be looking to keep Digne. His delivery was very good today.
I would too. I know Moreno was brilliant for us last season, but if Digne's happy to stay and be a team player, I'd keep him, screw the wages!
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
NO
Sorry , its an old fashioned phrase . Should of just said his first touch was heavy
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
NO
Sorry , its an old fashioned phrase . Should of just said his first touch was heavy
Never heard that in my life
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Actually his first touch was good to ease it past the defender, his second was bad but it looked like either his boot or the ball hit a bit of turf. His third touch to slot it past that ass hole in the Everton goal was class.
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Never heard that in my life
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Urban Dictionary -
Touch of a rapist
Someones who's first touch in football is utterly wank!
'Steve you've got a touch of a Rapist'
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Only downer on the day was the 2 injuries, especially Phil's, otherwise the perfect day, big Jhon opened his account for us, Bailey fully justified his selection, a clean sheet, looks like we might have found a decent penalty taker and most of all SJM was immense today.
UP THE VILLA
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Anyone else’s season ticket go red when trying to enter? Sent to the queue with other ST holders. Not impressed.
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Urban Dictionary -
Touch of a rapist
Someones who's first touch in football is utterly wank!
'Steve you've got a touch of a Rapist'
Just because someone has said it before doesn’t mean you have to repeat it. You’re not five, I assume.
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Is there really any need for that?
NO
Sorry , its an old fashioned phrase . Should of just said his first touch was heavy
Like a bad uncle.
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Amazing to get back into winning ways. It really does lift the mood.
Didn’t manage to catch the game but just the highlights. Bailey and Diaby looked lovely. You’d hate to have that pair running at you.
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I have seen a couple of posts on this site saying along the lines of "We are going to funeral Everton"
I think thats in bad taste too.
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Sure, old-fashioned. Like 'old sport' or 'thruppence ha'penny'. Remember well the first time my old grandad turned to me, pointed out Ronnie Johnson and said 'see him, son? He's got what we used to call "the touch of a rapist".' Brings a tear to my eye even now.
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It is a pretty well known saying from back in the day, thankfully not used so much these days.
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Anyone else’s season ticket go red when trying to enter? Sent to the queue with other ST holders. Not impressed.
Yeah me and the wife. Trinity Road. And the fella in front with a paper ticket - after his two kids had already gone in.
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In a weird way I suspect Digne’s performance today might not have impressed Emery. He chooses to cross every time (today they were brilliant) but we don’t have a target man to aim at.
With the freedom of the left flank he should have taken on their defence more.
Emphasis on the weird as with DCL/Carroll up top we’d have scored six. A nice problem to have I suppose.
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Anyone else’s season ticket go red when trying to enter? Sent to the queue with other ST holders. Not impressed.
Yeah me and the wife. Trinity Road. And the fella in front with a paper ticket - after his two kids had already gone in.
There was a kerfuffle in front of us for upper north and a big queue had formed in front of supervising steward however we had no problem with 3 tickets.
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Signed him on a Tuesday and our hearts stood still du Duran ran ran du du ran ran! Somebody told me he hates the blues du Duran ran ran du du ran ran!
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Am I right in saying that's 5 goals from 5 different players so far?
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Didn't need to get out of 3rd gear really, they're fucking shit. As others have said, it was the perfect game for Torres to start to help get up to speed, although the only times they looked vaguely threatening was when they got down between him and Digne, they did a little give and go and he completely lost the runner.
But can't really fault anyone, a very pleasant warm Sunday afternoon. Getting into the North took about 15 mins though, doesn't normally take that long so not sure what was up with that.
There were a few longer stoppages than a normal but an extra 18 minutes in a game is going to get old very quickly.
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Good response after last week but can't get carried away, Everton were rubbish.
Fuck it, I am going to get carried away. Last Saturday and all week I have been miserable so to hell with not getting carried away😆
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Am I right in saying that's 5 goals from 5 different players so far?
Yes and Watkins need to start to put some of his opportunities even we should be tolerated he miss a bit more than others given his overall game or should / might loose his starting place as Nicolo might come in and Bailey has upped his game. Diaby is a certain.
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Not a great game to judge the defence on, but a good 90 minutes to get Torres in there and get some communication and what not happening. He seemed to be leading things a bit, which is good to see.
I'd start the same back 4 against Hibs, assuming Digne is still here, give them another run out together before Burnley next week. By the time we get to Livedpool at Anfield they should be a well gelled unit.
I'd be looking to keep Digne. His delivery was very good today.
God, yeah, to sell him after that display makes no sense.
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At a 4-0 result we can still say “we woz robbed”. 6 or 7 would be a true reflection of the game.
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Am I right in saying that's 5 goals from 5 different players so far?
Yes and Watkins need to start to put some of his opportunities even we should be tolerated he miss a bit more than others given his overall game or should / might loose his starting place as Nicolo might come in and Bailey has upped his game. Diaby is a certain.
Watkins does a lot of work for the team and I'm not one that thinks he needs to be replaced, but I'll admit its not a great look when we score 4 against a team like that and our main striker isn't among them.
Although ultimately I don't really care where the goals come from as long as they come.
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If we play a poorer side than Everton this season it will be quite something. Only 2 games, but the stench of 2015/16 Villa from them is overwhelming.
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If we play a poorer side than Everton this season it will be quite something. Only 2 games, but the stench of 2015/16 Villa from them is overwhelming.
they keep flirting with relegation, it'll get them at some point. Got to be this season, they're horse shit .
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Sort of weird to start the season with one of the two most difficult fixtures (in my opinion), followed by perhaps the easiest. Today looked great, but the opposition was shockingly poor.
So it's hard to tell where we are. Games against the likes of Palace and maybe Liverpool will give us a better idea.
You can only beat what's in front of you, though, and we did that in first gear. Well done to the lads. Luiz and McGinn have grown into absolutely superb players. in terms of sheer footballing ability and technique, Diaby is clearly a cut above anybody we've had for years (that volley, with his wrong foot, was sensational). And Torres looked like reasssuringly authoritative (notwithstanding a bit of ball-watching).
Well done especially to Bailey for making me look a bit of a twat (although, similarly, you can only make what's in front of you look a twat, etc.).
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
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a better striker today and we'd have scored loads
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I dread to think how many hundreds of millions Everton have spent to be that bad.
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Feel sorry for that poor lad that was jumping off their medical table last week thinking he was coming to us instead.
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90m on strikers to replace Lukaku and they've scored 13 league goals in 6 years.
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I wasn't really expecting too any changes to the line up. Bailey is normally half decent at home so I wasn't really surprised to see him start.
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Bailey looks a good Villa Park option, links well with Diaby
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
Mu nephew told me Calvert Lewin was playing in the Bartons and I replied "Yeah, for about half an hour"
I was five minutes out.
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
Mu nephew told me Calvert Lewin was playing in the Bartons and I replied "Yeah, for about half an hour"
I was five minutes out.
He's have enjoyed playing in the Bartons more I reckon.
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
Mu nephew told me Calvert Lewin was playing in the Bartons and I replied "Yeah, for about half an hour"
I was five minutes out.
He's have enjoyed playing in the Bartons more I reckon.
It doesn’t seem like he really wants to be a footballer.
Even from the lower Holte there was a notable exodus of their support when the third went in, they have had years of shite and seem to be only getting worse.
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
We really need them to stay up. Hard to think of an easier annual 4 or 6 points. Even when we were shit
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Everton look like us in 2016, circling the drain year after year. It feels good to be someone else's bogey side. Onwards and upwards.
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Given the injuries we've had, and the thrashing last week, I think if we get to the International break with 4 more points, Conference secured, and no more injuries, we'll be doing alright.
Liverpool look not great this season so far but it's Anfield so you can't take anything for granted. I'd expect at least a point, but 3 is possible. Burnley don't look awful against Man City, and they haven't played since, but we really should be beating the newly promoted teams comfortably.
Hopefully after the International break we'll have Moreno back, Zoniolo bedded in, and Ramsey not far off returning, and we can kick on from there.
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It's mad how much better than them we looked today. It boggles the mind how they've managed to squander all that cash they've spent.
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Quote from the Guardian:
“If Everton were bad, Villa were barnstorming”
Full report:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/20/aston-villa-everton-premier-league-match-report
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Great win but Everton are awful. Another relegation fight, maybe this time they go.
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Not to sound arrogant, but I thought we looked in complete control throughout. And barring a great save from Pickford for Diaby's volley and if Watkins rolls his effort and it curls in, instead of out, that could easily have been 6 (six), without ever really breaking a sweat.
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We did to Everton what top sides have been doing to us for years. Turned up, rolled them over and tickled their bellies, all while rarely leaving second gear.
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We did to Everton what top sides have been doing to us for years. Turned up, rolled them over and tickled their bellies, all while rarely leaving second gear.
Yep felt exactly like that.
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I have seen a couple of posts on this site saying along the lines of "We are going to funeral Everton"
I think thats in bad taste too.
Well, it is not really. It is a figurative expression which was used by an erstwhile, and very likeable poster called 'Sarunyu' whose English seemed to be that of the Southeast Asian variety.* On this forum it has become an amusing synonym for 'battering' or 'murdering' a team. Really nothing that should get anybody all offended. Unlike talk of rape of course.
* He/she/they would write stuff like "I am sure we will funeral Bolton because we have Mellberg who is hard in the taggle." And stuff like that.
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We did to Everton what top sides have been doing to us for years. Turned up, rolled them over and tickled their bellies, all while rarely leaving second gear.
We're just missing Emery saying what a good side they are now, and what a great manager Dyche is, the way Ferguson always used to do to us after Man U had won 3-0.
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The term ‘funeralling’ is a bit edgy and can be funny if not overused, as after all death comes to us all. I suppose the watch out is that it could be a sensitive term to different people at different stages of their lives.
I’m not sure anybody on here is a slick enough comedian to find the right balance on using the other terminology we’re discussing without coming across as pretty insensitive to something that should never happen. Particularly as this (I’m guessing) is a largely male audience.
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It was routine. We controlled it without really ever having to exert ourselves. Not a feeling I’m used to in the last few years! Everton were appalling. Calvert Lewin is made of glass, and as much as we love Ashley Young, you can see today why it’s the right decision to move on. We exposed him very easily all game with pace and power.
Not Ollie’s best day but he always seems to start a season slowly, I’d play him against Hibs with the aim of getting him off the mark and getting his confidence going again.
I know it’s the rules but the 9 minutes at the end today was unnecessary and in games like that is only going to cause injury. Needs a rethink quickly.
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The term ‘funeralling’ is a bit edgy and can be funny if not overused, as after all death comes to us all.
It only exists as a verb on H&V as far as I know. If people are going to get upset about it then we may have to stop using terms such as 'batter' too. Indeed, even 'beating' a team or traffic could trigger someone who has been subject to physical violence if we think about it.
Crikey!
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18 minutes of added time, that's adding on another 20% of the original time. If that's become the norm, a 50 match season will in effect become a 60 match season. I reckon 90% of the Everton fans were past Stafford Services by the time the final whistle blew.
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I think we might be agreeing.
Although I’ve heard the term in lots of places outside of here. One of my seven a side team mates used to use it regularly.
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There were strong 'Villa 2015/16' vibes when Calvert-Lewin went off and gave the ironic thumbs-up to the visiting fans, who were giving him the bird.
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I think it's possible to go too far in the sensitivity stakes. Let's be honest, nobody's going to be upset about the use of 'funeral' as a transitive verb, and if they are, they shouldn't be.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd probably take Danjuma. He was their only ray of hope today.
Maybe Onana too.
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The term ‘funeralling’ is a bit edgy and can be funny if not overused, as after all death comes to us all.
It only exists as a verb on H&V as far as I know. If people are going to get upset about it then we may have to stop using terms such as 'batter' too. Indeed, even 'beating' a team or traffic could trigger someone who has been subject to physical violence if we think about it.
Crikey!
It was used on here by somebody for whom English wasn't their first language to describe us beating somebody very easily, and its use is a gentle and humorous homage to them.
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I think we might be agreeing.
Although I’ve heard the term in lots of places outside of here. One of my seven a side team mates used to use it regularly.
Maybe he knew Sarunyu.
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If anyone gets upset over it then we'll have to lay our fists all over them.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd probably take Danjuma. He was their only ray of hope today.
Maybe Onana too.
Onana played some lovely long passes in the first half, but soon descended to their overall level. I thought that Danjuma looked shite, we dodged a bullet there.
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Agreed.
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I have seen a couple of posts on this site saying along the lines of "We are going to funeral Everton"
I think thats in bad taste too.
Well, it is not really. It is a figurative expression which was used by an erstwhile, and very likeable poster called 'Sarunyu' whose English seemed to be that of the Southeast Asian variety.* On this forum it has become an amusing synonym for 'battering' or 'murdering' a team. Really nothing that should get anybody all offended. Unlike talk of rape of course.
* He/she/they would write stuff like "I am sure we will funeral Bolton because we have Mellberg who is hard in the taggle." And stuff like that.
That said, I have no qualms whatsoever in saying that we comprehensively funeralled Everton today.
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I think we might be agreeing.
Although I’ve heard the term in lots of places outside of here. One of my seven a side team mates used to use it regularly.
Maybe he knew Sarunyu.
Maybe he was Saranyu. Double hard Sheffield chap who loved having very minimum two pints before a game and was still the best player on the pitch.
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18 minutes of added time, that's adding on another 20% of the original time. If that's become the norm, a 50 match season will in effect become a 60 match season. I reckon 90% of the Everton fans were past Stafford Services by the time the final whistle blew.
they started streaming out when the 3rd went in.
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The added time thing is just stupid.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd probably take Danjuma. He was their only ray of hope today.
Maybe Onana too.
Onana played some lovely long passes in the first half, but soon descended to their overall level. I thought that Danjuma looked shite, we dodged a bullet there.
Nah, Danjuma was the only one who looked like making something happen for them. Can't do it all himself though.
That's not to say I want him here. I really don't.
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The added time thing is just stupid.
I disagree. For way too long teams have been wasting time and getting away with it. If the players don't like the amount of time added on then the simple solution is to not waste time. I think the refs are being particularly stringent on it early in the season to prove the point. Teams will have to adapt and then it will come down
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That’s more like it
Actually a bit disappointed we didn’t go more
Let’s hope that gets us up and running
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That’s more like it
Actually a bit disappointed we didn’t go more
Let’s hope that gets us up and running
i think we totally eased off knowing we have 3 games in a week . Conserve some legs
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Very impressive performance today. We looked like a classy side brushing aside a bunch of also rans. Early days but I think it's going to be a memorable season.
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I have a feeling that one of Luton, Sheff Utd, Wolves and Everton will be very thankful at the end of season that the other 3 were even worse than them.
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Most damning thing about Everton is how many of their players would you want in this squad? Pickford in place of Olsen and then it's a bit of a struggle.
I'd probably take Danjuma. He was their only ray of hope today.
Maybe Onana too.
Onana played some lovely long passes in the first half, but soon descended to their overall level. I thought that Danjuma looked shite, we dodged a bullet there.
Nah, Danjuma was the only one who looked like making something happen for them. Can't do it all himself though.
That's not to say I want him here. I really don't.
I thought the same. Danjuma came on and for about 10 minutes they looked mildly dangerous and then Sean knows the game inside out Dyche brought on Maupay and fucked it up totally.
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Routine victory which, coming after last week, is most welcome.
You watch the likes of McGinn & Luiz (although minor critique - he needs to cut out the silly bookings) now and the levels they’ve gone up under astute coaching is incredible. Diaby is going to be some player for us and hope today boosts Bailey’s clearly fragile confidence.
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Just reading Dyche's post match comments.
"I could have taken the whole team off at half-time. They were by far the better side.
We started well, but it reminded me of last season when we conceded a goal and you smell the group going soft very quickly. You concede another one then everyone is looking at each other.
You have to accept a collective downer, I can hardly pick a player who was anywhere near what we can do. Villa probably had the reverse."
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The added time thing is just stupid.
I disagree. For way too long teams have been wasting time and getting away with it. If the players don't like the amount of time added on then the simple solution is to not waste time. I think the refs are being particularly stringent on it early in the season to prove the point. Teams will have to adapt and then it will come down
Yes I think this too. I reckon yellow cards being handed out earlier for time wasting will also make teams think twice about slowing down the game.
Also today, there were a lot of stoppages for injuries: Luiz, Calvert-Lewin, Iwobi, Coutinho plus a few others.
In addition, added time for a goal used to be typically 30 seconds, but that has been extended this season to be more realistic and is now at least double.
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That new stadium will look fantastic in The Championship
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From Grand Old Team (about 40 mins in) : "To think we picked Ronald Koeman over Unai Emery 😂. We deserve all that we get."
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The added time thing is just stupid.
I disagree. For way too long teams have been wasting time and getting away with it. If the players don't like the amount of time added on then the simple solution is to not waste time. I think the refs are being particularly stringent on it early in the season to prove the point. Teams will have to adapt and then it will come down
Yes I think this too. I reckon yellow cards being handed out earlier for time wasting will also make teams think twice about slowing down the game.
Also today, there were a lot of stoppages for injuries: Luiz, Calvert-Lewin, Iwobi, Coutinho plus a few others.
In addition, added time for a goal used to be typically 30 seconds, but that has been extended this season to be more realistic and is now at least double.
The easiest solution to it all would be to get rid of all stoppage time, and stop the clock everytime the ball isn't in play
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The added time thing is just stupid.
I disagree. For way too long teams have been wasting time and getting away with it. If the players don't like the amount of time added on then the simple solution is to not waste time. I think the refs are being particularly stringent on it early in the season to prove the point. Teams will have to adapt and then it will come down
Yes I think this too. I reckon yellow cards being handed out earlier for time wasting will also make teams think twice about slowing down the game.
Also today, there were a lot of stoppages for injuries: Luiz, Calvert-Lewin, Iwobi, Coutinho plus a few others.
In addition, added time for a goal used to be typically 30 seconds, but that has been extended this season to be more realistic and is now at least double.
The easiest solution to it all would be to get rid of all stoppage time, and stop the clock everytime the ball isn't in play
i'd prefer the transparency of that solution
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Not a very nice analogy!
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Not a very nice analogy!
VillaTim has funeraled the comment ;)
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Everton were absolutely rotten. DCL is their best player but makes Coutinho look robust. The rest of them are a rag bag bunch of journeymen and under-performers. Whatever they played for Iwobi was too much by a factor of about a million. You can only beat what's in front of you though, and we did an excellent, professional job. It could and should have been more.
Mu nephew told me Calvert Lewin was playing in the Bartons and I replied "Yeah, for about half an hour"
I was five minutes out.
In fairness to DCL at least he went into the tackle fully committed, about the only Everton player I saw doing it. He was left in a fair old state afterwards, so much for concussion protocols etc
I only watched the first 60 mins and the likes of Digne and Bailey who I've slated previously did well. McGinn, Luiz, Kamara were very sharp. Torres decent on ball but caught flat foot badly by the Everton sub one time. But the story of the game is Everton really, I don't think we had played a team that bad since the championship. We weren't really even that good and 4-0 still flatters them. Watkins was disappointing I thought given how dominant we were.
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Thought Jhon had been a bit heavy with his touch for his goal, but he recovered well.
yeah handed to him on a plate but his 1st touch was that of a rapist
Not a very nice analogy!
VillaTim has funeraled the comment ;)
...then dug himself an even bigger hole by referencing an 'urban dictionary' ;)
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I understand Bailey isn't fan favourite, but if he is fit there's no full backs in the league that are going to be looking forward to playing against him and Diaby.
Great to see that common sense had prevailed and Dougie has got hold of penalties.
Agent Young was excellent in the second half, it's been too long since one of our sleepers has had a positive imapct!
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He was out of order but has since apologised.
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Do you think, for a split second, he actually forgot which team he's on?
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18 minutes of added time, that's adding on another 20% of the original time. If that's become the norm, a 50 match season will in effect become a 60 match season.
Don’t say that, tickets will go up 20% again.
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18 extra minutes today with both halves. Bloody stressful if the game is tight, fortunately, not like today when we looked on top from the first minute. Some excellent performances with SJM the standout for me. Digne and Konsa played well too. Great to get off the mark with a clean sheet too.
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Do you think, for a split second, he actually forgot which team he's on?
No. Just a bad day at the races for him. Great for us.
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I don’t envisage an easier home game all season, Everton really are awful.
McGinn MOTM for me easily but must say I was impressed by Torres, and by Diego Carlos and Tielemans when they came on. I love Ollie but he’s miles off it at it at the moment. Didn’t like all the added time but I guess not so bad on a warm summers afternoon.
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On the added time thing. How much time does it take for all the players to wander over for a group hug after a goal, all get a high5 off everyone, and then get back into position for the restart? It's only a small thing, when you're scoring 4 goals, it's probably a good 6 or 7 minutes added.
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He was out of order but has since apologised.
Yes I apologise again , I used an old stock phrase that is not acceptable anymore,
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Do you think, for a split second, he actually forgot which team he's on?
It wasn’t great but good the defender have reacted quicker (am i just defending young too much )
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Agent Young came through for us
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It wasn’t great but good the defender have reacted quicker (am i just defending young too much )
No, you're right, I think it was Keane who didn't react. Also the way the ball got away from Duran a little bit should have been enough to give a defender the chance to stop that attack, but they were nowhere to be seen.
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Steve Bruce ball is Pep level compared to that shit from Dyche. They really could be doomed unless they bin him and his dinosaur tactics.
Thought some of the play though the lines was just a joy to watch and to think we have
Mings
Buendia
Moreno
Ramsey
Zanlilio to come
Above red filth and Chelsea...that will do for now
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Do you think, for a split second, he actually forgot which team he's on?
No. Just a bad day at the races for him. Great for us.
It should count as another assist for us from him. 🤣
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McGinn MOTM today. Was excellent. Really saw what Digne brings in that first half. Everton struggled big time with his deliveries. We lost a lot of cohesion going to 3 at the back.
I hope the refereeing changes as they seem to be booking almost any foul which is ridiculous.
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As others have said, it was the perfect game for Torres to start to help get up to speed, although the only times they looked vaguely threatening was when they got down between him and Digne, they did a little give and go and he completely lost the runner.
At the game, it looked like he got completely done for pace, but watching it back on MOTD2 he got caught ball watching and was drawn in to the player on the ball. I thought he visibly got more up to speed as the game went along and his passing between the lines was good at times.
It was interesting that Diego Carlos came on instead of Chambers, which wasn't the case last season. Thought Carlos looked pretty sharp when he came on as well and the way he eased their player off the ball when he was through on goal was great defending.
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If there was an unnoticed star today for me it was Pau , very good very calm , the talent is there easy to see.
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If there was an unnoticed star today for me it was Pau , very good very calm , the talent is there easy to see.
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He was very talkative and organising too.
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I wonder if it's good in a way for Torres that Mings got injured. Rather than being slowly integrated into things he's been shoved right in, and even in terms of being vocal and bossing the others about, he'll just have to do it, and he doesn't have to worry about stepping on toes. I don't know if footballers think like that, but either way, sometimes it's better to just be thrown in at the deep end.
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I wonder if it's good in a way for Torres that Mings got injured. Rather than being slowly integrated into things he's been shoved right in, and even in terms of being vocal and bossing the others about, he'll just have to do it, and he doesn't have to worry about stepping on toes. I don't know if footballers think like that, but either way, sometimes it's better to just be thrown in at the deep end.
Footballers are people. Some people think that way, some don't. I guess we'll see.
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Perfect response after the opening day.
Pleased for Bailey & Duran. Both needed it.
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There's always the nagging doubt that things will start to unravel, that last season would prove to be an outlier and we will regress. Today was the perfect response to those thoughts. The ruthless and efficient dispatching of a piss poor side.
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I wonder if it's good in a way for Torres that Mings got injured. Rather than being slowly integrated into things he's been shoved right in, and even in terms of being vocal and bossing the others about, he'll just have to do it, and he doesn't have to worry about stepping on toes. I don't know if footballers think like that, but either way, sometimes it's better to just be thrown in at the deep end.
I've been thinking the same. Torres was much more vocal and assertive, and I think that he would be less able to be so had our 'captain' been alongside him. Tragic as the circumstances are, Torres may benefit from being able to play his natural game and find his feet quicker this way.
Carlos looked useful when he came on too, which was encouraging. Wouldn't surprise me if we end the season with Torres and Carlos as first choice partnership and Konsa as first choice right back.
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Is this the first time for years we don't really have any shite players in the squad?
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Brilliant result and brilliant day out.
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Carlos looked useful when he came on too, which was encouraging. Wouldn't surprise me if we end the season with Torres and Carlos as first choice partnership and Konsa as first choice right back.
Agreed - I thought Carlos looked excellent, and both he and Torres will get better by the game.
I'm also a big fan of Tielemans and think he will fight he way into some of the starting line-ups.
I noticed how much Bailey looked for Diaby when looking for a pass ... particularly in the first half it seemed like they were the only two playing. Bailey certainly did seem freer and more adventurous in his play.
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Is this the first time for years we don't really have any shite players in the squad?
Olsen?
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Is this the first time for years we don't really have any shite players in the squad?
Olsen?
😂
Was about to type the same thing.
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Just catching-up but what the hell is "bounty-gate" (see Page 3 of thread, Page 1 if Legion)?
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The last time I went to Goodison was to see us beaten by the exact same scoreline. We were similarly bad. It is a sobering thought how the wheel turns.
As a post note-I was with the Everton fans that day (my Son-In-Law is a Toffee) and they were almost apologetic and didn't totally enjoy seeing Villa so low. A bit like me yesterday.
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To win by 4 while in 2nd gear all match is impressive. Can Everton play any worse than that? They offered nothing and didn't appear to be too bothered about offering nothing. We learned very little in the 100 + minutes apart from Watkins needing to work hard on his first touch and also his 2nd touch. Not a great game by him. Everyone else good with McGinn the pick of the bunch. Carlos is a bit of a beast, not many will mess with him.
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What can I say - pretty worried after last week's collapse
We were off the pace v Newcastle (who are a Top 4 side) and got hammered. We were in 3rd gear at most v a team who are bottom 6 and thrashed them. Let's face it we played at half pace after 2nd goal until half time and even 3rd and 4th were weren't busting a gut.
I have been critical of Bailey but thought he did really well yesterday and the first goal set up was excellent so hopefully he can by-line more often. He took his goal well too. Diaby and Pau looked very good too. SJM was superb and it may not be popular but Watkins movement is generally very good and creates space for others (accept he misses chances he shouldn't).
I'd still like to see another RB option.
A very good response to a bad day at the office - now let's see us give Hibs a good tonking so we can have a sell out for a practice match next week,
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Just catching-up but what the hell is "bounty-gate" (see Page 3 of thread, Page 1 if Legion)?
New Orleans Saints were allegedly offering bonuses to injure specific players off other teams, so a bit like putting a bounty on an opposition player.
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I have been critical of Bailey but thought he did really well yesterday
I actually thought he didnt hit it well , which kinda worked as it went through Thugfords legs as probably expecting a hard shot to the side of him. He was greatly proved yesterday and I think playing with Diaby really helped him . so another great reason for buying the french man . I do hope Leon comes good.
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Yes Rob the gap between top and bottom half will be as massive as it was last season I think.
The thing with Bailey for me is even though he had a great game yesterday his key moments were at the whim of chance. He didn't really control the ball that well before his cross to McGinn, his header before the pen seemed a bit aimless, and his goal was a fairly weak shot straight at the keeper. He's never going to be reliable.
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Is this the first time for years we don't really have any shite players in the squad?
Olsen?
😂
Was about to type the same thing.
I did chuckle at Pickford being taunted with 'you're just a sh*t Robin Olsen' yesterday.
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Quote from Andy Hinchcliffe during the game 'Diego Carlos looks like a wardrobe dressed in a Villa shirt'. He was being kind, not ridiculing. Diego was very good yesterday, whilst not massively tested.
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The reality is that there are 8 or 9 teams that are decent in this league, there are 11 or 12 who are going to struggle against that upper tier. Everton are in the latter group, we are in the former, and it showed. Having said that you have to beat what is in front of you.
I didn't get why Everton started DCL after a short run out behind closed doors. I would have thought Dyche would want to target the dogheads and Sheff Utd for points rather than us, the risk of playing DCL from the start was an odd one. But there you go.
Torres could not have hoped for a nicer full debut. He was allowed time on the ball, could pick whatever pass he wanted and was under no real pressure defensively. There was one pass he played in the second half along the ground through the centre of midfield which was delicious. Dougie and Kamara were brilliant, and SJM had clearly recovered from the issues that dogged him against the Saudis. I was trying to work out how many positions he played in yesterday. It didn't really matter he did well in every single one.
Watkins was Watkins, earned the penalty because of his tenaciousness, but hit the ball the wrong side of the post the two or three chances he got, and on occasion the ball not getting played perfectly into his stride or him mis-controlling it. The Diaby volley goes in against most other keepers.
I think I am with our skipper, we left a few goals out there yesterday, fancy saying that after we won 4-0.
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DCL might have been fine fitness wise yesterday if he hasn't gotten his face smashed in.
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Quote from Andy Hinchcliffe during the game 'Diego Carlos looks like a wardrobe dressed in a Villa shirt'. He was being kind, not ridiculing. Diego was very good yesterday, whilst not massively tested.
The way he manouvered that Everton player away from the ball despite them being seemingly put through on goal was lovely, like "fuck off mate, this is no place for you"
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Without leaping to conclusions but we were playing Everton and someone’s had it away with the dugout roof. It’s going to be a bit parky for the subs if it isn’t returned by October.
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I did chuckle at Pickford being taunted with 'you're just a sh*t Robin Olsen' yesterday.
I'm not a fan of this sort of thing to be honest. He is going to be called upon now and again and he is having the piss taken by supporters of his club.
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Without leaping to conclusions but we were playing Everton and someone’s had it away with the dugout roof. It’s going to be a bit parky for the subs if it isn’t returned by October.
Couldn't have been the Evertonians; they'd all buggered off well before the end.
Actually, the club removed it because they had run out of materials for the refurb of the Terrace View and therefore 'repurposed it'.
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I did chuckle at Pickford being taunted with 'you're just a sh*t Robin Olsen' yesterday.
I'm not a fan of this sort of thing to be honest. He is going to be called upon now and again and he is having the piss taken by fans of his club.
Absolutely. Saying we would like an improvement on forums is one thing but to be making derogatory chants about one of our own players isn't clever and doesn't help.
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Agreed.
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Just catching-up but what the hell is "bounty-gate" (see Page 3 of thread, Page 1 if Legion)?
Bouty-gate was a scandal in American football where New Orleans Saints players were given paid "bounties' to target & injure opposition players.
I say New Orleans Saints were guilty of it, they were just the ones caught.
Everybody was doing it.
The likes of Dyche & Pulis have that sort of mentality, but we just call it "*leaving a foot in..."
For clarifications sake, I am not saying that Dyche & Pulis specifically pay bounties for their players to injure players.
*To leave your foot in means to first go for the ball but continue after the ball has been won, or lost, and kick the opponent. The 'in' in the phrase refers to the tackle, giving 'in the tackle'. https://languagecaster.com/football-language-to-leave-your-foot-in/ (https://languagecaster.com/football-language-to-leave-your-foot-in/)
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Calvert-Lewin's father has been having a right pop on facebook about the booing of Everton fans when he went off. Something deep rooted and wrong there. It is as others have said almost a replica of us 2010-2016.
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Onana also racially abused online as well after the match. The Everton fans are not helping their side at all.
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Good on you, mate.
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When he went off I thought that he has tossed the game off but when saw tv pictures when got home it was obv that was quite a whack….these concussion protocols can’t be too hard to pass as he looked away with the fairies walking down the touchline…
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Spurs took a player off very early last week after a knock to the head, he was on long enough to score a header mind, but it was good to see them taking it seriously, even if the player himself was fuming.
I think on the BBC live text yesterday they said one of the other Everton players was signalling that DCL needed to come off, but he stayed on for ages after that. People can argue all they want about the risks from heading the ball, but a clash of heads is serious business.
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When he went off I thought that he has tossed the game off but when saw tv pictures when got home it was obv that was quite a whack….these concussion protocols can’t be too hard to pass as he looked away with the fairies walking down the touchline…
There was talk that he was dazed, which you would think was an indicator of a possible concussion. You would think that he would have been taken off then.
Then the cheekbone became more inflammed and his eye was starting to close. Suspected fractured cheekbone.
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Without leaping to conclusions but we were playing Everton and someone’s had it away with the dugout roof. It’s going to be a bit parky for the subs if it isn’t returned by October.
When asked about the loss of the dug out i was informed it is a requirement of playing in Europe - although no one could offer anything else. I offered that they do know it rains here in England?
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Wasn’t it Keane who was half asleep?
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Wasn’t it Keane who was half asleep?
He was but the throw was incredibly poor judgement. A cynical Everton fan might even think Ash took advantage of Keane’s poor positioning to help Duran score, it was so bad a throw from their perspective.
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Spurs took a player off very early last week after a knock to the head, he was on long enough to score a header mind, but it was good to see them taking it seriously, even if the player himself was fuming.
I think on the BBC live text yesterday they said one of the other Everton players was signalling that DCL needed to come off, but he stayed on for ages after that. People can argue all they want about the risks from heading the ball, but a clash of heads is serious business.
Ange made the right decision in that Spurs game despite Romero whinging like hell. Dyche bottled it frankly yesterday, at every level as a coach you have a duty of care to your players. There was no way DCL should have stayed on after that hit, he was in some state coming off.
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That throw in, what on earth was Ash thinking?
Wasn’t it Keane who was half asleep?
He was but the throw was incredibly poor judgement. A cynical Everton fan might even think Ash took advantage of Keane’s poor positioning to help Duran score, it was so bad a throw from their perspective.
The irony of the gift from Ash was that Ollie was desperate to score all afternoon and would have had a gimme if he had not be subbed a minute earlier.
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Spurs took a player off very early last week after a knock to the head, he was on long enough to score a header mind, but it was good to see them taking it seriously, even if the player himself was fuming.
I think on the BBC live text yesterday they said one of the other Everton players was signalling that DCL needed to come off, but he stayed on for ages after that. People can argue all they want about the risks from heading the ball, but a clash of heads is serious business.
Ange made the right decision in that Spurs game despite Romero whinging like hell. Dyche bottled it frankly yesterday, at every level as a coach you have a duty of care to your players. There was no way DCL should have stayed on after that hit, he was in some state coming off.
WTF is Ange? Show some disrespect please and call him Postecoglou.
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
He has always had a soft spot for us, he gave us the Djemba twins and recommended Alex Mcleish.
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With friends like that, who needs enemies?
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
I'd say he'd been on the Bells all afternoon
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Given he's a multi-millionaire, I'd hope he doesn't waste his time drinking drain cleaner like Bells.
A nice 20 year-old Caol Ila would be the minimum, surely.
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
Yes I do. Said the same on Newcastle post match thread when the link was posted there.
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Given he's a multi-millionaire, I'd hope he doesn't waste his time drinking drain cleaner like Bells.
A nice 20 year-old Caol Ila would be the minimum, surely.
Also took Bozzie off our hands and screwed him
Poached, anyone who looked good, Ashley, Dwight
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Given he's a multi-millionaire, I'd hope he doesn't waste his time drinking drain cleaner like Bells.
A nice 20 year-old Caol Ila would be the minimum, surely.
Also took Bozzie off our hands and screwed him
Poached, anyone who looked good, Ashley, Dwight
In theory we stole Bozzie from them. They had him but when his visa was cancelled he went back, married an English girl then returned. He had promised to sign back for Manure but they had just bought Schmeichel so he joined us instead as he knew he was going to be stuck as backup.
I would argue that Fergie could definitely spot players. Bozzie, the aforementioned Dane, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Ronaldo, etc. He soon dumped the ones he didn't rate fully (after giving them a few games to boost their prices).
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Quite enjoyed the music before the game, especially U2
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Quite enjoyed the music before the game, especially U2
I'd heard standards were slipping off the pitch, didn't realise it was that bad.
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Quite enjoyed the music before the game, especially U2
I'd heard standards were slipping off the pitch, didn't realise it was that bad.
Winky thing
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Quite enjoyed the music before the game, especially U2
Me too, I couldn't believe it when we got some Hans Zimmer (Inception soundtrack).
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
I'd say he'd been on the Bells all afternoon
I think Rioja followed Bells chasers
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So we win the biggest win of the Gameweek!
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So we win the biggest win of the Gameweek!
Just the tonic we needed
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And no-one in Garth's team of the week on the Beeb, long may that continue!!!
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And no-one in Garth's team of the week on the Beeb, long may that continue!!!
He probably picked an Everton player.
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Well being as he used at least one of the players picks to ask why they were still playing for Brighton and not Manure, I would hope he keeps our players off the spotlight. But also, as all of our players had such a good game (albeit didn't have to perform well either), there was no standout name for Crooks to try to latch onto. I mean he picked Ederson because he kicked the ball well once.
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And no-one in Garth's team of the week on the Beeb, long may that continue!!!
What a piss easy bit of paid work that is. I bet he doesn't watch any game, just picks players from the headlines banner on SSN.
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Leaving this here, didn't know where to post. Ferguson after the Newcastle game.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sir-alex-ferguson-premier-league-30703660
Do you agree with him?
I'd say he'd been on the Bells all afternoon
I'd say remember when we tonked them at Villa Park? The infamous Hansen, "you'll never win anything with kids" line on MOTD. And see what they went on to do.
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I could not give a fuck what that red faced cnut has to say about anything
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I could not give a fuck what that red faced cnut has to say about anything
This made me laugh.
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He said we were dark-horses for the league in summer 1997 and then we lost our first four games but I do think he's always had respect for the Villa. Maybe from how close we ran them in '93 when his job may have been on the line.