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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on April 30, 2023, 04:04:26 PM
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Shit.
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The only thing good about Man City is that they are Man Utd’s neighbours.
We were the better team for the 2nd half and deserved a point in my view. The ref gave us nothing he didn’t have to, but that’s no surprise to anybody at all.
Buendia is a weak link at the moment, that and a bench that looks a bit weak. The most annoyed I’ve been after a game all season.
That said, it’s been a fantastic run and the players and staff (and in particular the manager) deserve enormous credit. Still loads to play for.
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It had to end at some point.
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It feels like we're running out of steam.
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Small margins. Thought we turned up second half but bit late then. Casemiro the difference, quality player.
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How confident are you that the team will bounce back? I am very confident.
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Terrible first half, marginally better second half, but overall extremely disappointing, other than the bit of the scramble towards the end we never really looked like extending our scoring run. I guess we had to lose a game eventually I'm just pissed off it's to these fuckers, but at least we weren't cheated out of it. I think we're fighting with Spurs for 7th/8th now.
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It feels like we're running out of steam.
:'(
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A tight game decided on fine margins.
When you look at what they've spent and what they had to call on from the bench, it's a world away from where we are. We ran them close without threatening too much.
Time for another run to start.
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What can you say except WANKERS!
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Frustrating. Especially that one Konsa cleared off the bloody line. Need a win next week.
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This squad have given everything and did again today. Unlucky in the end but that’s the way it goes sometimes. We’ve been on an amazing run which had to end as some point. What I don’t see is this squad letting 1 defeat affecting us too much.
UTV
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Too sloppy in the first half, didn't really go at them until too late in the second. A tad unfortunate not to score despite that.
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Terrible first half, marginally better second half, but overall extremely disappointing, other than the bit of the scramble towards the end we never really looked like extending our scoring run. I guess we had to lose a game eventually I'm just pissed off it's to these fuckers, but at least we weren't cheated out of it. I think we're fighting with Spurs for 7th/8th now.
I agree re the 7th /8th thing.
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We really struggled with our link up play , Buendia wasn’t great again , Ollie spent most of his time wrestling , but there were a few off today
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Everything you need to know about Premier League refereeing (particularly involved that lot) was encapsulated in an incident in stoppage time. Shaw pulled Duran back and all the ref saw was Duran trying to continue his run which involved taking the clinging on Shaw with him. Result: free kick to them. It is more blatant now than ever.
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It feels like we're running out of steam.
I see a tired team but not one that won’t come back given a full weeks rest. The next run starts next week.
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It feels like we're running out of steam.
Sadly it seems so. We just have no options off the bench apart from Bert to really make much of a difference. We really could do with Cash, Kamara and Coutinho back to give us a few more options.
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If only we had bought a couple in January instead of making the squad weaker.
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Strangely enough, now that the unbeaten run has come to an end, I actually now feel more confident that we will win at Wolves next week.
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We look very tired, sloppy play throughout. Frustrating, but not the end of the world. We need a few of the players back into the mix.
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If three of the four injured players are available for next week that would freshen everything up especially if one of them is Kamara.
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A timely reminder as to the mental as much as physical freshness needed for the weekend-midweek-weekend regular rotation of games. We'll need a deeper squad but there'll be a lot of existing players that need to learn to manage the heavier workload if we make 7th and Europe.
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I think the plan was similar to the game at Spurs, to keep it tight & take our chances in the 2nd half.
We could have nicked a goal but never tested De Gea nor put any pressure on thier back 4.
Special mention to Buendia for one of the worst performances I've seen in a long time.
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I think people are being over harsh, especially on that second half. I understand why and also feel pissed off. But we had 2 cleared off the line (one by Konsa!) and should've had at least one penalty in my view. We had the one from Moreno off the line first half too. Their goal was one we could've prevented and was a bit lucky to sail in over 3 Villa players. Yes, they hit lots of long balls over the top of our defence but never really looked like scoring from one of them. They will consider that an extremely good 3 points.
How likely is it that we will have the injured boys back next weekend? That might make the difference to how well we finish the season.
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Lack of squad depth is beginning to show. We really need the injured guys back for Wolves. Squad rotation required. I hope Kamara in particular is ready, although he's had only 45 minutes in 2 months.
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I've only seen one half since the Newcastle game but from the sounds of things we have been pretty poor since then. So by my reckoning this is the 15,254th false dawn since I became a fan.
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Disappointing result really. Fortunate to only be one down at the break and we finished very strong after the subs came in. Two cleared off the line. Thought Emery waited far too long to make the obvious changes. McGinn made much more impact in the middle and Chambers was much better on the right. Buendia's inability to retain possession was a liability and Watkins was disappointing again. Our motm was Konsa, thought he was superb again.
Martinez 6 - played sweeper keeper role very well but had to push the Rashford shot further away from danger
Young 4 - can't fault his effort but running on empty from very early on
Konsa 8 - calmness personified
Mings 7 - fortunate a couple of times but in the main solid again
Moreno 6 - little impact going forward today
Luiz 6 - Sabitzer sat on him and struggled to get involved, radar with passing a bit off, goal line clearance denied him the equaliser
Donk 5 - anonymous really, half a yard shot and should have been hooked earlier
Ramsey 6 - tried very hard but his touch needs improvement
McGinn 6 - little impact on right but got more involved when switched inside
Buendia 4 - gave ball away constantly, fortunate Coutinho is unavailable
Watkins 5 - slipped at crucial moment in first half, pocketed by Lindelof
Chambers did well as did Digne. Duran had no impact and Traore the turn at the end aside did very little too. Emery, picked wrong team for me and changes should have been made earlier.
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How likely is it that we will have the injured boys back next weekend? That might make the difference to how well we finish the season.
Emery keeps saying "very soon, but not this weekend" but none of them have even been pictured training and Kamara was still in a protective boot last week.
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Just never got going today.
We need upgrades on both Ramsey and Buendia. Especially the latter.
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Terrible first half, marginally better second half, but overall extremely disappointing, other than the bit of the scramble towards the end we never really looked like extending our scoring run. I guess we had to lose a game eventually I'm just pissed off it's to these fuckers, but at least we weren't cheated out of it. I think we're fighting with Spurs for 7th/8th now.
Thanks, saves mw typing loads. Other than to add Casemiro was probably the best player on the pitch and arguably shouldn't even have been on after 20 minutes.
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No need to despair too much. It's been a great run.
Big game against Wolves next week tho. Can't be losing that one.
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How likely is it that we will have the injured boys back next weekend? That might make the difference to how well we finish the season.
Emery keeps saying "very soon, but not this weekend" but none of them have even been pictured training and Kamara was still in a protective boot last week.
Hmm doesn't sound massively promising, but fingers crossed.
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Disappointed but not too downhearted, pity the run had to end in front of what looked like a crowd full of tourists.
The thin squad and the injuries are always going to hamper us when taking on the better teams in the league and the former will be resolved in the Summer.
We gave them a game but came up just short. The future remains as bright as ever.
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We've started to look like what we are: a side that's leapt from relegation fodder to European hopefuls in a matter of weeks.
My own opinion here, but I can't bring myself to be happy with 8th now. I'd be gutted.
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Terrible first half, marginally better second half, but overall extremely disappointing, other than the bit of the scramble towards the end we never really looked like extending our scoring run. I guess we had to lose a game eventually I'm just pissed off it's to these fuckers, but at least we weren't cheated out of it. I think we're fighting with Spurs for 7th/8th now.
Thanks, saves mw typing loads. Other than to add Casemiro was probably the best player on the pitch and arguably shouldn't even have been on after 20 minutes.
Yes he was very good , but you see why the miss him when he doesn’t play . even though he has the face of s ventriloquist s dummy
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If, after the Craven Cottage debacle anyone had suggested to me that with four games to go we would have a chance of qualifying for any European competition I should have thought they were bonkers. We have today lost to a team in the top four who, I think, have not been beaten in the league at home since the first game, when we have injuries to important players and we were still in it inside the final minute. .Okay this was not our best performance but we look pretty certain to achieve our highest position for years and can genuinely be optimistic for the future. Thank you Aston Villa.VTID.
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They had adjusted their tactics to us I think. They did press us some first half without to much dangerous situations - but 1-0 at half time was about fair. We slightly better than them second half, Should have been an 1-1 like Brentford away. We are a good team. Was Rashford offside for their goal? VAR didnt show the whole story there at my screen anyway
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Terrible first half, marginally better second half, but overall extremely disappointing, other than the bit of the scramble towards the end we never really looked like extending our scoring run. I guess we had to lose a game eventually I'm just pissed off it's to these fuckers, but at least we weren't cheated out of it. I think we're fighting with Spurs for 7th/8th now.
Thanks, saves mw typing loads. Other than to add Casemiro was probably the best player on the pitch and arguably shouldn't even have been on after 20 minutes.
Yes he was very good , but you see why the miss him when he doesn’t play . even though he has the face of s ventriloquist s dummy
That's it! I have been trying to think what he reminds me of. Well done sir.
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Better second half and had a couple of opportunities at the end to get a draw. Think games like this against better opposition highlight the areas we still need improvements in and the need for better options coming off the bench if we are to trouble the higher reaches of the league on a regular basis.
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Fuck, fuck, fuckity fuck.
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How likely is it that we will have the injured boys back next weekend? That might make the difference to how well we finish the season.
Emery keeps saying "very soon, but not this weekend" but none of them have even been pictured training and Kamara was still in a protective boot last week.
So was Fernandes!
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The fact that we are unhappy at losing away to one of the best teams in the league is a mark of where we are now compared to where we were only a few months back. There were plenty of positives today and, on another day, at least one of those chances would have gone in.
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Utter hated for them.
Thought we were a bit limp
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I've only seen one half since the Newcastle game but from the sounds of things we have been pretty poor since then. So by my reckoning this is the 15,254th false dawn since I became a fan.
😂 It isn't that bad.
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How likely is it that we will have the injured boys back next weekend? That might make the difference to how well we finish the season.
Emery keeps saying "very soon, but not this weekend" but none of them have even been pictured training and Kamara was still in a protective boot last week.
So was Fernandes!
The law of the Villa. Opposition players you hate could have all four limbs amputated and they'd be back to play us. A Villa player stubs his toe and he's out for 3 months.
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I do agree with the PL commentary that they worked out our high line could be breached & ran well from deep. We were never out of it, but only on a few attacks did we look remotely dangerous.
Buendia needs a rest now. Nothing is coming off, so impact off the bench will increase his confidence.
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The fact that we are unhappy at losing away to one of the best teams in the league is a mark of where we are now compared to where we were only a few months back. There were plenty of positives today and, on another day, at least one of those chances would have gone in.
I agree, it was always going to be tough today. United resorted to lumping balls over the top to take their chances getting through our high line.. not exactly the most modern take on football tactics but effective enough for them. Summer recruitment will be important due to our lack of depth, but I think Kamara could’ve changed the game today. Win against Wolves, get back on track and finish the season strong.
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We need all 4 of them back for the last few games to have a chance of top 7.
The options from the bench are very limited at the moment.
It makes the business needed to be completed in the summer blindingly obvious.
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The only problem with unbeaten runs is that they get addictive and it's always a massive pain when they do finally end.
As others have rightly said, we have a threadbare squad and the fact we're even in the European conversation after the start we've had is mind-blowing. I'm not really sure how much is left in the tank now, quite a few players starting to look leggy and the lack of replacements could be our downfall. Regardless, we are going places with this manager, and next season could be very special.
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Not really disappointed as such,they have better players in key positions and are better at shit-housing. Learn and move on and please, for all that is holy, fuck the dogheads over next week
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There's no way we'll see all of that quartet back before the end of the season. Cash is the closest and was close to being part of today's squad, but Kamara looked fucked when his ankle got kicked against Chelsea. Coutinho won't appear in a Villa shirt again. So my money's on Cash and Bailey only.
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The good news is it’s between us and Spurs for that last spot and they are utter shit
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Two wins for us could seal 7th: next week and Spuds. You just can't see Tottenham arresting that kind of slide now.
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There's no way we'll see all of that quartet back before the end of the season. Cash is the closest and was close to being part of today's squad, but Kamara looked fucked when his ankle got kicked against Chelsea. Coutinho won't appear in a Villa shirt again. So my money's on Cash and Bailey only.
There's no way Braveheart is going to put himself to play again this season.
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There's a good chance he'll not appear in a Villa shirt again then.
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The good news is it’s between us and Spurs for that last spot and they are utter shit
Yep looks like they've given up entirely. Harry Kane was just dawdling on the ball, and a Liverpool player just took it off him while he stood there.
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There's a good chance he'll not appear in a Villa shirt again then.
One can but hope.
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Whenever we are doing well they turn up and show us the level we have to aspire to to regularly compete at the top level. I thought they were incredibly well prepared to counter our threats and test the high defensive line. Don't get me wrong I detest them and their supporters but that is the yardstick and I am sure our management and owners are very well aware of what we need to do to challenge them.
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Whenever we are doing well they turn up and show us the level we have to aspire to to regularly compete at the top level. I thought they were incredibly well prepared to counter our threats and test the high defensive line. Don't get me wrong I detest them and their supporters but that is the yardstick and I am sure our management and owners are very well aware of what we need to do to challenge them.
That's a good point. Emery has done brilliantly, but he's only bought one of his own players, and has round pegs in square holes all over the pitch. When he gets his own players in and we have a bit more pace in the team we'll be consistently able to give Man U a game in the top 6.
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The good news is it’s between us and Spurs for that last spot and they are utter shit
Brighton have to play Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal and us in their last 6 games. I don’t think its cut and dry they will finish above us either.
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Looked a game to far. Poor all over the pitch. Need players back ASAP...
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We were not great but they had plenty of help from the ref which is normal at TTOW.
I thought they should have been tired but we were leggy all over the pitch and some pretty awful performances from Buendia and Ramsey which made it even more difficult for everyone else.
They weren’t great but the ref was good for a goal advantage.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12870288/man-utd-1-0-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
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Frustratingly poor, but not surprising. Our squad is pretty light and with the injuries we are quite short. Need to bounce back next week.
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They stopped playing I thought for the last 20 mins or so, disappointing that we couldn't force the equaliser though we did come very close.
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Annoying but the run was always going to end sooner rather than later. The players seem a bit jaded and we're struggling to play with intensity lately. Newton Heath were winning a high proportion of second balls so we couldn't build our usual attacks. Plus we struggled to deal with the balls in behind. I thought we missed Cash today, in particular. Bailey might have been a good outlet too, as we needed to bypass their dominant midfield more.
Could really do with the injured players coming back quick, because at the moment Emery is pretty short of options.
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Frustrating because you know we’re better than we showed today and even still, we were in the game throughout. Such fine margins but if that rat boy shot doesn’t get a deflection and we get in level at half time, it could have been different.
Thought Casemiro was the difference between the two sides.
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Villa's oldest player is Young.
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Lesson to learn for JJ today. He did a bit better in the second half, but completely lost the battle to Casemiro. Hopefully a learning experience that’ll help him to build his game.
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Ball retention was terrible in the first half. Tactically, I thought the high line was a little too high!
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I don't think the line was any higher than usual but Rashford's pace made it look like that.
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Donk is fine as a stand in for a couple of games, but we don’t half miss kamara’s dynamism, particularly when luiz is well marked. 8 points from our next 4 games will give us a chance.
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Lesson to learn for JJ today. He did a bit better in the second half, but completely lost the battle to Casemiro. Hopefully a learning experience that’ll help him to build his game.
Possibly because he kicked the fuck out of him and the ref did nothing to protect him?
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difficult to play at OT when you are down 2 or 3 players - Buendia, Dendonker and JJ take note. Even then it would not have been robin hood if we had snatched a point.
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I don't think the line was any higher than usual but Rashford's pace made it look like that.
Will be interesting how high we attempt it at Anfield. Once Spurs actually realised there was a football match going on they actually pressed Spurs in good areas and made them look average for large parts today.
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I don't think the line was any higher than usual but Rashford's pace made it look like that.
Will be interesting how high we attempt it at Anfield. Once Spurs actually realised there was a football match going on they actually pressed Spurs in good areas and made them look average for large parts today.
Spurs pressing Spurs is so Spurzy
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I thought we were rubbish in the first half, a lot better in the second
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Just finished watching the game and thought our midfield were the root cause of the problems today. Buendia was especially bad - he seemed to give the ball away every time he got it.
Could/should have mugged them for a point at the end. We go again...
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Very close game decided on the tightest of margins. Thought we controlled the game well. But when it mattered, the quality and decisiveness weren’t quite there. And Buendia was crap today. Absolutely crap.
It’s been a great run and we’ve pretty much done all that could be expected at this stage.
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Very close game decided on the tightest of margins. Thought we controlled the game well. But when it mattered, the quality and decisiveness weren’t quite there. And Buendia was crap today. Absolutely crap.
It’s been a great run and we’ve pretty much done all that could be expected at this stage.
All about opinions, and it has been a brilliant run and is not defined by one ropey day, but we in no way controlled the game.
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Very close game decided on the tightest of margins. Thought we controlled the game well. But when it mattered, the quality and decisiveness weren’t quite there. And Buendia was crap today. Absolutely crap.
It’s been a great run and we’ve pretty much done all that could be expected at this stage.
Apart from a few moments of quality, I think buendia has been mostly poor. His ball retention is shocking and constantly losing 50/50s before throwing himself to the floor and gesticulating wildly is really fucking grating. Move him on
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I thought we were rubbish in the first half, a lot better in the second
Pretty much sums it up. We had three simple chances to score today, we fluffed all of them.
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Emery out
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Very close game decided on the tightest of margins. Thought we controlled the game well. But when it mattered, the quality and decisiveness weren’t quite there. And Buendia was crap today. Absolutely crap.
It’s been a great run and we’ve pretty much done all that could be expected at this stage.
All about opinions, and it has been a brilliant run and is not defined by one ropey day, but we in no way controlled the game.
They were reduced to playing balls in behind constantly. That was the only weapon they had. We caught them offside constantly to their frustration and they had little other threat. On that side, I think Emery will be happy. It was further forwards with decision making and ball retention where we fell down. At the end they were hanging on. I think they’ve lost one game at home all season. I thought we controlled the game.
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Donk is fine as a stand in for a couple of games, but we don’t half miss kamara’s dynamism, particularly when luiz is well marked. 8 points from our next 4 games will give us a chance.
Thought the Donk was worryingly poor today. No impact.
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Spurs, like Manure, are another team that will give you plenty of chances if you press them from the front. It wasn’t rocket science that we needed to do that today but, only started that a bit in the second half. Don’t be fooled by Wolves result yesterday, they will be a tough nut to crack.
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Enjoyed the day out today result apart. Just feels like we’re expecting things to happen automatically now rather than putting the hard yards in to give us opportunities to make things happen. Still, been a super last few months. Onwards and upwards.
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Considering they had fewer days rest they looked much sharper when it mattered. We need our injured recruits back to freshen it up. When we’re 1-0 down with 5 minutes remaining, pissing around at the back with the ball is mot what we should be doing.
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Man Utd 1-0 Aston Villa: Unai Emery reacts to 'bad result' at Old Trafford - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/65418141
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And despite being second best etc etc we only conceded one, deflected, goal.
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And despite being second best etc etc we only conceded one, deflected, goal.
This. This is the biggest disappointment.
I thought we did ok. Not great, but we're hard to beat.
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Two games in a row that Chambers and Digne came on and improved us, think they deserve a start. Thought playing a very high line in the first half condensed the midfield and gave our playmakers little room, Emery changed tactics and we looked much more dangerous. They had done their homework and closed down JJ and Buendia starving Watkins of any supply. Emery has very few options left, it looks as if Coutinho is waiting for his next pay day.
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Moreno seems to slow down his running looking for an offside in the lead-up to their goal, Fernandes worked harder to get to the ball first even if the angle also slightly favoured him. What was with his death-stare towards the Villa end, were we shouting mean things at him?
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Moreno seems to slow down his running looking for an offside in the lead-up to their goal, Fernandes worked harder to get to the ball first even if the angle also slightly favoured him. What was with his death-stare towards the Villa end, were we shouting mean things at him?
He was getting booed a lot before the goal, I presume for, well... being Fernandes, but he might have done something I missed.
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And despite being second best etc etc we only conceded one, deflected, goal.
And that was probably offside
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It had to end at some point.
Absolutely, Lee. Just a shame it had to come against these bastards.
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I was screaming at the TV at Buendia. The amount of times he lost the ball, threw his arms up in the air and just stopped rather than chase back was driving me mental. I like him but he showed his worst side today.
Thought Martinez should of done better for the goal.
JJ was ineffective
Watkins looked lost
Squad is running on empty and it may now cost us
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It's hard to be too critical after the run we've had and like a few have said, it had to end sometime. Let's hope Wolves continue their comedy defending next week.
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Fernandez is a horrible little prick. Staring down the away fans after being rightly called out on being a dirty cheating wanker, just about sums him up. Dismal individual.
That said, we created hardly anything until the end and Man U were a bit better than us. Tossers.
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I was screaming at the TV at Buendia. The amount of times he lost the ball, threw his arms up in the air and just stopped rather than chase back was driving me mental. I like him but he showed his worst side today.
Thought Martinez should of done better for the goal.
JJ was ineffective
Watkins looked lost
Squad is running on empty and it may now cost us
I think I'd have chinned Buedia in the dressing room after that had I been in the team.
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Reports of our being dominated were greatly exaggerated. What happened was we didn't play well, and they (unfortunately I watch a lot of them as my only football pals around here are 'M U' fans) played better than they have done in ages.
We need reinforcements. We looked leggy and totally dependent on the first eleven. We need injured players back (massively - a fully fit and firing Kamara would have made for a different game), and we need players in the summer.
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Moreno seems to slow down his running looking for an offside in the lead-up to their goal, Fernandes worked harder to get to the ball first even if the angle also slightly favoured him. What was with his death-stare towards the Villa end, were we shouting mean things at him?
Probably because he went down like a sack of spuds, in the penalty area. Rolled around for a minute or two. Realised he wasn’t getting a free kick; then just jumped up and carried on😏😏
I know I find it hard to believe as well 😃😃
He was getting booed a lot before the goal, I presume for, well... being Fernandes, but he might have done something I missed.
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They sacrificed a winger to beef up their midfield, which I suppose was a compliment. Unfortunately it worked..
Disappointed but not too downbeat.
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Motd and Sky had us down as having 1 shot on target.
De Gea saved one from Moreno, one off the line from Luiz. Which one of those didn't count?
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If our run was going to end it was most likely gonna be at our least favourite ground, plus we haven't won cosecutive away games there since 1930, so history was very much against us. Still much better 2nd half, only last last ditch defending stopped us getting a point. At least we won the league matches 3-2, which hasn't happened for a while.
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The Luiz one, a flag was raised, not too sure as to why. That particular linesman gave us fcuk all all game.
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Motd and Sky had us down as having 1 shot on target.
De Gea saved one from Moreno, one off the line from Luiz. Which one of those didn't count?
Konsa unfortunately stopped one going in late on too. Our set pieces were very good again.
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Nothing much to add that hasn't already been said, but I did think that the team move that led to JJ's shot being deflected over by Lindelof was absolutely sensational. Had he scored, it would have been a goal of the season contender I think.
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For all the so -called quality players on the pitch for Manchester United, they really didn't really impress me against Villa,
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The Luiz one, a flag was raised, not too sure as to why. That particular linesman gave us fcuk all all game.
Watkins was offside at the very start of the move.
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Motd and Sky had us down as having 1 shot on target.
De Gea saved one from Moreno, one off the line from Luiz. Which one of those didn't count?
Think Ollie was eventually called offside in that move, he did look like he'd run a little early when the pass came through but of course they let play go on.
Probably a good job it did get cleared off the line as you know they'd have found a way to VAR it.
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The Meaning Evil are absolutely ecstatic about this result of course. I will never, ever understand this.
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And despite being second best etc etc we only conceded one, deflected, goal.
And created enough good chances to have got a point.
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Has anybody seen anything that shows Rashford was onside for the goal?
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Has anybody seen anything that shows Rashford was onside for the goal?
Yeah, Konsa played him on.
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It was always going to be at the theatre of utter wankers that it came to an end. I hope to one day see us funeral them big time.
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Having thought about it, Bailey would have made a big difference, speed and width was lacking as an option for us. I know there are concerns about him but there's no question he'd have occupied at least one, more likely two of their players and created more space.
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Yeah agreed whatever people think of him Bailey does have a goal in him.
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Yeah agreed whatever people think of him Bailey does have a goal in him.
Just hacked into Catweazle's iPad
22/23 matches: 23(6)
Avg minutes: 65
Goals: 4
Shots: 46
On target: 13
Off target: 17
Blocked: 16
Successful tackles: 11/23
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Having thought about it, Bailey would have made a big difference, speed and width was lacking as an option for us. I know there are concerns about him but there's no question he'd have occupied at least one, more likely two of their players and created more space.
That old canard
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EMI B had a pretty poor game. He’s been a bit off for a few weeks now. The falling over whenever he he is bullied off the ball for dwelling on it. We really need to move the ball quicker.
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Giving it large after edging a narrow home win against a team with a horrific record there? How the mighty have fallen
Have a reality check and know your place': Rio Ferdinand tells Unai Emery to 'sit back down' after Manchester United ended Aston Villa's unbeaten run .
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Having thought about it, Bailey would have made a big difference, speed and width was lacking as an option for us. I know there are concerns about him but there's no question he'd have occupied at least one, more likely two of their players and created more space.
That old canard
Don't duck the question.
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Giving it large after edging a narrow home win against a team with a horrific record there? How the mighty have fallen
Have a reality check and know your place': Rio Ferdinand tells Unai Emery to 'sit back down' after Manchester United ended Aston Villa's unbeaten run .
Funny I don’t recall him having that message for Ten Hag when Man City beat them.
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Giving it large after edging a narrow home win against a team with a horrific record there? How the mighty have fallen
Have a reality check and know your place': Rio Ferdinand tells Unai Emery to 'sit back down' after Manchester United ended Aston Villa's unbeaten run .
Looking forward to Rio's comments after Man City thrash them at Wembley.
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Giving it large after edging a narrow home win against a team with a horrific record there? How the mighty have fallen
Have a reality check and know your place': Rio Ferdinand tells Unai Emery to 'sit back down' after Manchester United ended Aston Villa's unbeaten run .
Rio, you ok hun? Very weird.
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Now trying to somehow justify his comments to all and sundry.
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He's as thick as pig shit. Best ignored.
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He's as thick as pig shit. Best ignored.
Thinks an awful lot of himself, yes one of those that lacks intelligence but too thick to notice.
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He's as thick as pig shit. Best ignored.
Thinks an awful lot of himself, yes one of those that lacks intelligence but too thick to notice.
Ollie at the wheel , enough said
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Now trying to somehow justify his comments to all and sundry.
Aston Villa and Unai Emery can't be patronised any more; we are getting up their noses.
We know our place Ferdinand: in your fucking faces!
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I've never seen United fans so rattled by us before and after a game. They're waking up to what's going on.
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Having thought about it, Bailey would have made a big difference, speed and width was lacking as an option for us. I know there are concerns about him but there's no question he'd have occupied at least one, more likely two of their players and created more space.
Has Bailey ever made a big difference for us in an away game? My main concern about him is that he has been consistently abysmal (or unavailable) since he joined us.
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The way that rat faced cnut just stared at the Villa fans when he got his lucky goal.
I really could do something horrific to that twats face.
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I called him all the rude names I could think of when watching the game, and reserve the right to do so again. But I would imagine the stick he's got after missing that penalty has been relentless. So you can't blame him for giving a bit back.
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Having thought about it, Bailey would have made a big difference, speed and width was lacking as an option for us. I know there are concerns about him but there's no question he'd have occupied at least one, more likely two of their players and created more space.
Has Bailey ever made a big difference for us in an away game? My main concern about him is that he has been consistently abysmal (or unavailable) since he joined us.
5 goals in two years, none of them away. Assuming he doesn't start again this season, he'll have made 30 starts in two seasons. Too injury prone, and too ineffective, far too often when he does start. He's been a huge waste of money.
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Isn't it nice that a team in the top 4 are having to adjust their game plan to deal with us, rather than the other way around.
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What Bailey brings to the team is pace (at least the threat of) which means defences are more cautious and leave more space for Oli. Interestingly Oli's goals have somewhat dried up without Bailey in the team. I have no doubt he'll be upgraded, but that position has an important role in the team.
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Giving it large after edging a narrow home win against a team with a horrific record there? How the mighty have fallen
Have a reality check and know your place': Rio Ferdinand tells Unai Emery to 'sit back down' after Manchester United ended Aston Villa's unbeaten run .
Should have asked him how much is Utd players valued at compared to villa's, because they are moaning like f**k up there
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
Don't see what his accent or dialect has to do with anything.
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
Don't see what his accent or dialect has to do with anything.
Sorry internet Police.
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Just disagreeing with you mate! Don't dish it out etc etc.
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Just disagreeing with you mate! Don't dish it out etc etc.
No bother. You make a valid point but he just talk bollocks for me.
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
Don't see what his accent or dialect has to do with anything.
It makes him sound stupid.
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More risible than his pronunciation was last year when he picked himself as the best ever centre back to play in the premier league.
Or his rap career…
Or his boxing career…
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
Don't see what his accent or dialect has to do with anything.
It makes him sound stupid.
Nope, that would be the words he says.
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Rio "finks dis" and "finks dat". One of the top pundits I'm sure you'll agree.
Don't see what his accent or dialect has to do with anything.
It makes him sound stupid.
Nope, that would be the words he says.
And the way he says them. In my opinion.
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Meh, I just think it's really unfair and superficial. Some of the smartest people I've met have spoken like he does, dats and finks and all, and some of the dumbest morons I've met sounded like Bertrand Russell. Anyway I'm all for regional dialects.
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Meh, I just think it's really unfair and superficial. Some of the smartest people I've met have spoken like he does, dats and finks and all, and some of the dumbest morons I've met sounded like Bertrand Russell. Anyway I'm all for regional dialects.
Yeh but it’s Rio compounding the theory that using finks instead of thinks means that you are a bit thick which he obviously is.
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I cannot deny that Rio does the reputation of his accent no favours.
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Let's face it, we got merk'd.
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I'm with Monty, calling people thick because of how they sound is something that brumies in particular should be fighting against at any opportunity.
From personal experience (and my accent isn't that strong) I have a much easier time working with people from outside the UK when I have to tell them what to do, especially when they're management.
That said Rio is thick as shit and shouldn't be anywhere near TV sharing his opinions on anything.
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I'm with Monty, calling people thick because of how they sound is something that brumies in particular should be fighting against at any opportunity.
From personal experience (and my accent isn't that strong) I have a much easier time working with people from outside the UK when I have to tell them what to do, especially when they're management.
That said Rio is thick as shit and shouldn't be anywhere near TV sharing his opinions on anything.
Do you have to tell them what to do paul_e? Or is this another xG fiasco?
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I'm with Monty, calling people thick because of how they sound is something that brumies in particular should be fighting against at any opportunity.
From personal experience (and my accent isn't that strong) I have a much easier time working with people from outside the UK when I have to tell them what to do, especially when they're management.
That said Rio is thick as shit and shouldn't be anywhere near TV sharing his opinions on anything.
Do you have to tell them what to do paul_e? Or is this another xG fiasco?
Where’s that come from??
I strong brummie accent and have over the years faced a bit of the old snobbery, especially as I work with many middle class professionals. Funny perceptions alter if they find out I have a PhD….the accent is embroiled with class snobbery in this country.
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I'm with Monty, calling people thick because of how they sound is something that brumies in particular should be fighting against at any opportunity.
From personal experience (and my accent isn't that strong) I have a much easier time working with people from outside the UK when I have to tell them what to do, especially when they're management.
That said Rio is thick as shit and shouldn't be anywhere near TV sharing his opinions on anything.
Are you saying Brummie's sound thick? Bigot.
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Well this thread is taking a turn down a dimly lit alleyway.