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Title: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 15, 2021, 12:09:20 PM
So, a new beginning then.


Not much time for Gerrard to work with the squad. Brighton have had a good start to the season, but haven’t won in 7, and their recent results have been a mixed bag. Decent battling draws with Liverpool and Leicester, but also disappointing draws with Norwich and Newcastle.


I’m going to go for a straightforward 2-0 home win, to get Villa Park bouncing again and Gerard’s reign off to a good start.



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 15, 2021, 12:48:04 PM
Depends who is fit. I think we'll have a flurry of substitutions on to about the hour mark through tiredness.

Also a surprise in the lineup.

Heart win, head loss. So a Draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Proposition Joe on November 15, 2021, 12:52:59 PM
Up until last week, Brighton would have pretty much known how we would line up and play and could make plans for it. Now we will be a surprise.

Likewise, Gerrard and co have had the best part of a week to analyse Brighton and devise a plan for them. I also fully expect them to have also analysed our players via video and have an idea who could fit in with their ideas. The key is going to be how much they can get across in training this week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 15, 2021, 01:11:19 PM
Home win based on new manager bounceability. 2-1 Bailey, Mcginn, Sanson o.g.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 15, 2021, 01:14:34 PM
I think a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Legion on November 15, 2021, 01:57:50 PM
0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on November 15, 2021, 02:32:10 PM
1-1.

McGinn with a headed goal and then a slip on the ball to let one of their forwards in to get the draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 15, 2021, 02:46:53 PM
Ings and Ramsay  2 - 0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: UK Redsox on November 15, 2021, 02:48:44 PM
The key is going to be how much they can get across in training this week.

Doesn't take long to say....'for f**ks sake, concentrate you dozy f**kers'
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 15, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
The key is going to be how much they can get across in training this week.

Doesn't take long to say....'for f**ks sake, concentrate you dozy f**kers'


exactly

Bailey you not doing long throws

Ollie just hit the fucker , too many touches

Ashley , you aint in midfield

Emi got on the right side

Morgan , you are  in my french beauty



and stop getting injured in training
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Proposition Joe on November 15, 2021, 03:31:50 PM
and stop getting injured in training

I imagine the pitch at Bodymoor to be like the scene in Tetminator 2 when the ground freezes and the the T1000's legs just break off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: darren woolley on November 15, 2021, 03:56:26 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing Steven Gerrard's first game in charge I think we will win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: brontebilly on November 15, 2021, 05:08:19 PM
Will be interesting to see how Gerrard attempts to solve the Ings/Watkins quandary starting with next Saturday. Let's hope a lot of the injury problems have cleared up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: algy on November 15, 2021, 05:12:20 PM
and stop getting injured in training

I imagine the pitch at Bodymoor to be like the scene in Tetminator 2 when the ground freezes and the the T1000's legs just break off.
Made me laugh.


My daughter's first Villa game - Trinity Road stand. Just bloody win, Villa.

Going Us 4-0 Them. More hope than expectation
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 15, 2021, 05:22:21 PM
Tough game Saturday. I think Brighton are unbeaten in the league away from home. The Villa team will need to be up for the contest. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on November 15, 2021, 05:35:55 PM
My oldest had identified this game as the one to take his younger brother to for his first match. That was before the change in manager. He has now withdrawn the offer of giving up his seat as he is excited to see the new guy. Got to be honest its rubbing off a bit. We're going home win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: steamer on November 15, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
I think it will be solved by Ings being injured
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: colin69 on November 15, 2021, 06:03:43 PM
2-1 Villa and a new chapter begins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: manic-road on November 15, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
Tough game but I think the buzz around the new manager will lead to the players putting in a performance. 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Pete3206 on November 15, 2021, 07:18:28 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 15, 2021, 07:27:47 PM
I started to vote for us to lose in game one of the ten-game winning streak in the second division, and I obviously take full credit for that. I've done the same ever since. I don't think it's working anymore.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 15, 2021, 09:32:12 PM
we will smash them 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 15, 2021, 09:57:22 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

McGinn
Dougie
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Watkins

If ings isn't fit, then Buendia to play wide and Ollie up top. Lots of pressing in zones, Dougie more disciplined and the full backs very high.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: TonyD on November 15, 2021, 10:33:22 PM
New manager bounce.
2.0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: RamboandBruno on November 15, 2021, 10:35:42 PM
Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

McGinn
Dougie
Sanson

Bailey
Ings
Watkins

If ings isn't fit, then Buendia to play wide and Ollie up top. Lots of pressing in zones, Dougie more disciplined and the full backs very high.

Yep this team, though Beundia look relatively lively at Southampton, in comparison with the rest, he needs to work harder if he keeps blowing out of his arse by 70 mins.
There a good side, but 3-0 as a flattering result on the day
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 15, 2021, 11:08:00 PM
Think we'll have enough to win 2-1. Late goal like that Targett winner two seasons back.

Brighton actually gone winless longer in prem than we have.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 16, 2021, 06:45:45 AM
We need to be miles better with and without the ball. A tough game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Axl Rose on November 16, 2021, 07:43:51 AM
5-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sid1964 on November 16, 2021, 07:55:14 AM
Tough game, but 1 we need to win considering who we are playing in December

2-1 (Watkins and Mings)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: robbo1874 on November 16, 2021, 09:03:01 AM
For Gerrard’s sake we need to come flying out the blocks for this. I’d take 1-0, but would like to see us give Brighton a pasting, just so it sets us up.
I reckon we may see a few surprises, with some of the youngsters featuring. I’d maybe do that just to put some of the more senior players on notice, that they aren’t necessarily getting picked on seniority. Bit of a gamble, but if it works, it stirrs everything up nicely. In fairness we could probably play the U23s and reasonably expect them to perform better than the first team squad has over the last few games. Obviously he’ll go with what he sees in the few days of training, but I expect one or 2 surprises. New manager bounce- 3-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 16, 2021, 09:07:59 AM
I just hope he doesn't play it safe and start with Ashley Young anywhere in the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: yammers on November 16, 2021, 09:32:07 AM
I’m taking the middle boy for his very first game on what will be his 10th birthday.  I was worried at first that he was going to follow Liverpool at first like his best mate but he’s Villa and in particular Ollie mad!
Hoping for a home win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 16, 2021, 10:04:05 AM
I just hope he doesn't play it safe and start with Ashley Young anywhere in the team.

hopefully he has re watched a few of our games to know that is a non starter
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 16, 2021, 10:19:35 AM
Villa win.

Potter who?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 16, 2021, 10:49:09 AM
I'm going for:

Emi M

Cashy M
Ezri K
Mingie T
Matty T

Johnny M
Dougie L
Marvelessly N

Leon Bailey
Watty K
Emi B
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: achilles on November 16, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
Have to be positive with his first game in charge and think it will be hard to break down Brighton so going for a 1 - 0 win.
Don't think that Gerrard will have any surprises in store but will play it safe and steady.
That means Bailey won't start games until his defensive attributes improve as Gerrard likes players who work hard, with and without the ball!

The defence picks itself in a four:

Martinez

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Targett

The midfield is slightly difficult with doubts about the invisible man (Sanson, will he ever start), is Luiz fit and whether we really need a DM at home to Brighton, so going for Nakamba only playing if Luiz isn't fit;

McGinn
Luiz / Nakamba       
Ramsey J

Next the three up front, think Gerrard will go with El-Ghazi on the left for his work rate (as long as he cools down) and Buendia on the right with Ollie centre, Ings I have discountered due to him being injured or at the very least not being fully match fit;

El-Ghazi
Watkins
Buendia

That is a fairly safe selection until Gerrard finds out more about his squad, a tough hard game!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 16, 2021, 11:20:04 AM
El Ghazi , no way. Will be gone in January.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 16, 2021, 11:25:32 AM
I'm going for:

Emi M

Cashy M
Ezri K
Mingie T
Matty T

Johnny M
Dougie L
Marvelessly N

Leon Bailey
Watty K
Emi B


It's been reported that Marv has picked up an injury on international duty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 16, 2021, 11:28:46 AM
El Ghazi , no way. Will be gone in January.

I think he is more likely to go with Bidace
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 16, 2021, 11:31:33 AM
I'm going for:

Emi M

Cashy M
Ezri K
Mingie T
Matty T

Johnny M
Dougie L
Marvelessly N

Leon Bailey
Watty K
Emi B


It's been reported that Marv has picked up an injury on international duty.

Ah well. Cursed again.  Another 3 points gone,
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Skerra on November 16, 2021, 12:32:03 PM
Apparently a thigh muscle injury for Marv. Don’t think I’ll lose too much sleep if that’s our only injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Villa Lew on November 16, 2021, 12:55:35 PM
Will be interesting to see if Sanson makes the bench and even gets some game time. He's one player, who's probably not too unhappy to see Dean go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: KRS on November 16, 2021, 01:01:54 PM
A tough first game. Does new manager bounce cancel out the if you haven’t won in ages then who would you like to play next jinx? Saying that, we’ve lost 5 on the bounce so we’re due a win more than them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: brontebilly on November 16, 2021, 02:32:54 PM
El Ghazi , no way. Will be gone in January.

If you can ignore his idiocy in trying to get sent off v Southampton, I thought AEG was decent with the ball. Some nice touches and shots at times.

Wouldn't be against him starting on the left wing anyway. No way can Bailey start there after his 'effort' last time out. Replace AEG at about 70 mins.

Nakamba out isn't exactly a huge blow. Ramsey, Luiz and McGinn should be a strong trio with Sanson in reserve. Wouldn't be against Sanson starting in order to free McGinn up a bit more either.

This might not be the worst first game for Gerrard, getting Brighton at possibly a good time as others have said. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: algy on November 16, 2021, 02:57:05 PM
El Ghazi , no way. Will be gone in January.
I'm not so sure. Part of me thinks he's thrive as a left sided 10.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: levico on November 16, 2021, 04:43:59 PM
A sharp learning curve for SG. Not sure how this match will pan out (a draw wouldn’t be a bad outcome) but hopefully he’ll learn a lot from it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Allan C on November 16, 2021, 04:57:37 PM
3-1 to us. Don’t care who scores but the so called “new manager bounce” will see us through
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Jon Crofts on November 16, 2021, 06:11:06 PM
Fuck the south coast London by the sea American Express that'll do nicely fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Nev on November 16, 2021, 06:22:32 PM
The result, while not irrelevant, won't define the new managers Villa career and it's the line up and approach that will tell us much more.

At home, at 3 should help us over the line but it might be a bit of a struggle with all the changes in the last 2 weeks.

1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Three Spires Villa on November 16, 2021, 07:01:51 PM
We will win, it’s going to happen
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: enigma on November 16, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
I'm banking on the new manager bounce to see us over the line. 3-2 to us in a chaotic game. Brighton attack at pace and in numbers and we're dodgy at the back this season so can't see us keeping a clean sheet.

The Gerrard factor should mean we're first on MotD regardless of the score though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: aj2k77 on November 16, 2021, 08:47:18 PM
Nakamba is Blues. It will be a blessing if we don't have him on the pitch continually giving the ball away. I don't want to see Nakamba, Young or Tuanzebe near the side or McGinn hampered by playing too deep. That would be a good start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 17, 2021, 05:50:30 AM
With brand new managerial bouceability and for no other reason whatsoever (better to be lucky than good) our two forwards discover how to play together forming what will be become a lethal and legendary striking partnership.  ;D

Us 7   Wakins(3)   Them 0
          Ings(3)
          Nakamba

All the goals are scored mid way through the second half and I go flying to the top of Louzies Guess the Goal table. (Better to be lucky than good).  8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Hillbilly on November 17, 2021, 05:53:45 AM
Fuck the south coast London by the sea American Express that'll do nicely fuckers.

Moderators and Rockers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Mister E on November 17, 2021, 09:08:08 AM
Nakamba is Blues. It will be a blessing if we don't have him on the pitch continually giving the ball away. I don't want to see Nakamba, Young or Tuanzebe near the side or McGinn hampered by playing too deep. That would be a good start.
So, who plays deep from the current squad?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 17, 2021, 12:16:14 PM
Nakamba is Blues. It will be a blessing if we don't have him on the pitch continually giving the ball away. I don't want to see Nakamba, Young or Tuanzebe near the side or McGinn hampered by playing too deep. That would be a good start.
So, who plays deep from the current squad?

Luiz or Ramsey. If one of the midfield 3 needs to drop deeper, I’d have Luiz doing it, with McGinn and Ramsey playing their natural game and driving at Brighton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 17, 2021, 01:20:19 PM
            Martinez
Cash  Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Luiz    Ramsey
Bailey   Ings   Watkins

Surely this is our best team?  Buendia interchangable with Bailey & Wakins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 17, 2021, 01:47:27 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 17, 2021, 01:50:58 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.

He wasn’t in the training pictures on Monday though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Dr Butler on November 17, 2021, 02:19:14 PM
a good performance and a routine 2 nil win please Villa.

no drama's please.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Damo70 on November 17, 2021, 02:28:22 PM
Brighton don't usually concede many but they don't score many either. Their record in the last five games is
DDLDD. Add a new manager bounce to our side and we should win this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 17, 2021, 03:21:35 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Chris Smith on November 17, 2021, 03:49:14 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.

A new manager normally means that what has happened previously goes out of the window and players are judged afresh. Gerrard will, presumably, pick the players based on how he sees them fitting into how he wants the team to play. So it might be Ramsey it might be Samson or it could be that neither start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 17, 2021, 04:03:58 PM
I guess I am looking forward to this more than if there hadn't been a change in manager but no idea what to expect. Would settle a lot of nerves to hit the ground running.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 17, 2021, 04:27:09 PM
Probably already been mentioned but I saw a tweet about John Gregory being the last Villa manager to win his first game in charge of us? That right? 11 managers ago?

I’m going 2-1 with a late winner

Edit, ignore all that- Smith won his first game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Richard on November 17, 2021, 04:49:51 PM
Probably already been mentioned but I saw a tweet about John Gregory being the last Villa manager to win his first game in charge of us? That right? 11 managers ago?

I’m going 2-1 with a late winner

If you mean in the Premier League, maybe......if you mean in any league look no further than the last manager :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: andyh on November 17, 2021, 04:52:32 PM
We’re gonna batter the fuckers

3-0 villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 17, 2021, 05:01:19 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.

A new manager normally means that what has happened previously goes out of the window and players are judged afresh. Gerrard will, presumably, pick the players based on how he sees them fitting into how he wants the team to play. So it might be Ramsey it might be Samson or it could be that neither start.
But bearing in mind Sanson has only played 45 mins of senior football for us for in 7 months it's hard to imagine Gerrard chucking him straight in after seeing just a few days traing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: gpbarr on November 17, 2021, 05:08:00 PM
Defeat - Brighton are playing really nice fluid football right now and expecting Gerrard to turn this round overnight is silly.

The result is important but for me, want to see the attitude and effort improve considerably first and foremost. Show some intent. Press hard.

Those signs will help determine how fast he might turn it round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Bobby Boy on November 17, 2021, 05:39:32 PM
Brighton are decent but our boys will be looking to impress so 2-1 to us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 17, 2021, 07:14:49 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.

Kante is a reserve?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 17, 2021, 07:16:09 PM
Defeat - Brighton are playing really nice fluid football right now and expecting Gerrard to turn this round overnight is silly.

The result is important but for me, want to see the attitude and effort improve considerably first and foremost. Show some intent. Press hard.

Those signs will help determine how fast he might turn it round.

Brighton looked to me against a woeful Newcastle like they've always looked on the rare occasions I've seen them. Very pretty, very pedestrian and dire in the final third.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Monty on November 17, 2021, 07:19:48 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.

Kante is a reserve?

And he embarrassed Saul Niguez, a man hard enough to win leagues as a starter under Simeone. Maybe his problem is, as ever, fitness, but if it isn't it'll take some persuading me that he doesn't deserve some minutes per game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Louzie0 on November 17, 2021, 07:35:51 PM
With brand new managerial bouceability and for no other reason whatsoever (better to be lucky than good) our two forwards discover how to play together forming what will be become a lethal and legendary striking partnership.  ;D

Us 7   Wakins(3)   Them 0
          Ings(3)
          Nakamba

All the goals are scored mid way through the second half and I go flying to the top of Louzies Guess the Goal table. (Better to be lucky than good).  8)

Think you owe Our Marv a goal, ALITA!

I hope you’re right about the result because i’m not that far away with my guess, either! 
Just want the Villa to win, it’s been a while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: john e on November 17, 2021, 07:57:12 PM
I would have said it’s a game we’ve got to win under Smith and it’s no different under Gerrard
We’re two points off the relegation spots Gerrard has been bought in to get us winning again it starts on Saturday

No excuses

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: CT Villan on November 17, 2021, 09:02:14 PM
We'll be 2-up and coasting with 20mins left when Brighton score. Thoughts of a Wolves-like collapse precipitate apprehension on the pitch until SG screams at the players in broad scouse and sanity returns as we see out the game for the win. Austin MacPhee doesn't leave his seat for the entire game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 17, 2021, 10:05:00 PM
Sanson is a better player than Ramsey for me right now.
Based on 45 mins vs Chelsea reserves?

Don't get me wrong I hope he comes good, but right now Ramsey deserves the start.

Kante is a reserve?

And he embarrassed Saul Niguez, a man hard enough to win leagues as a starter under Simeone. Maybe his problem is, as ever, fitness, but if it isn't it'll take some persuading me that he doesn't deserve some minutes per game.

Ramsey embarrassed him so much in the league game that he got hooked at half time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Louzie0 on November 18, 2021, 01:35:02 AM
Depends who is fit. I think we'll have a flurry of substitutions on to about the hour mark through tiredness.

Also a surprise in the lineup.

Heart win, head loss. So a Draw.

I think there’ll be a surprise in the line-up, as well.

AEG will reappear to stun all and sundry with 3 goals; two penalties and the other, a long distance screamer into the top corner.
And Villa win, 6-0, with Ollie, Ings and a youngster getting into the action 👍

(If a certain beer did first matches for Gerrard and the coach of many talents!)


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: enigma on November 18, 2021, 03:57:41 AM
Defeat - Brighton are playing really nice fluid football right now and expecting Gerrard to turn this round overnight is silly.
Brighton's winless streak is longer than ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Hillbilly on November 18, 2021, 06:49:24 AM
Defeat - Brighton are playing really nice fluid football right now and expecting Gerrard to turn this round overnight is silly.
Brighton's winless streak is longer than ours.
Which of course means we get Brighton's season back on track. It's the Villa way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: alanclare on November 18, 2021, 07:48:57 AM
We’re gonna batter the fuckers

3-0 villa

Neat, measured, thoughtful contribution.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ROBBO on November 18, 2021, 08:32:48 AM
I hope the rumours of Ash Young playing further forward are wrong, on the bench at best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 18, 2021, 01:27:16 PM
I could see him doing something like Archer,
Ings and Watkins as a front three.

         Martinez

Cash Konsa Mings Targett

          McGinn Sanson

              Buendia
Archer      Ings    Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 18, 2021, 01:33:42 PM
I would have said it’s a game we’ve got to win under Smith and it’s no different under Gerrard
We’re two points off the relegation spots Gerrard has been bought in to get us winning again it starts on Saturday

No excuses

Well, there's some excuses.  The fact he's only had 1 or 2 training sessions with the majority of the first team woiuld be one of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on November 18, 2021, 02:30:52 PM
I would have said it’s a game we’ve got to win under Smith and it’s no different under Gerrard
We’re two points off the relegation spots Gerrard has been bought in to get us winning again it starts on Saturday

No excuses


Agreed and in this respect I feel sorry for our new manager.
Purslow has put him in this position, knowing where Villa are. He must be expecting him to hit the ground running and I hope for Villa's sake that is the case. Purslow has made it that there can be no excuses or free hits. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 18, 2021, 03:03:44 PM
Is Bailey injured?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Border villan on November 18, 2021, 05:21:30 PM
Is Bailey injured?

Most weeks the question is “is Bailey fit”.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 18, 2021, 06:53:59 PM
Ooh-just seen Trez on telly .In a Steven Gerrard training sesh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Skerra on November 18, 2021, 07:17:12 PM
Sounds like Sanson and Luiz won’t be quite ready for the Brighton match.
Based on that, my view is we can expect them back for next season assuming they haven’t got injured in training again or on international duty. Otherwise 23/24 would be my realistic target for their return!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Flin5tone on November 18, 2021, 08:50:37 PM
2-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: walsall villain on November 18, 2021, 10:18:28 PM
A very nervy 1-0 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 18, 2021, 10:39:28 PM
As ever this season no idea what to expect when team is announced at 2pm.

Generally new managers like to throw a curveball selection in their first game to give some hope to players on the fringes, perhaps Carney may get a start if Luiz isn't back?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Villan82 on November 18, 2021, 11:03:37 PM
Gerrard will get something from this that Dean got too few of... a draw. 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ozzjim on November 18, 2021, 11:18:28 PM
Gerrard confirmed Sanson picked up yet another knock during the break (walking Disney land was clearly too much for the porcelain man) and Luiz isn't quite ready. Leaves us still short in midfield.

Back 4 and Emi pick themselves.

I think he'll go with a narrow front 3 of Watkins, Ings and Buendia.

Central mid, McGinn, Ramsey pick themselves. If Nakamba is out, then I wonder if we might see another young player in there, maybe the lad we picked up from Albion in the summer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sid1964 on November 19, 2021, 07:02:30 AM
do you get the feeling that Sanson does not want to play for us and therefore it is any excuse not to be picked?

Hoping that Steve gets his Villa Management career off to a winning start but think it will be a draw 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 19, 2021, 07:24:40 AM
Their first choice keeper is out apparently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 19, 2021, 07:26:55 AM
He did get sent off in their last game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ROBBO on November 19, 2021, 08:24:17 AM
Sanson is quickly pissing me off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 19, 2021, 08:34:34 AM
Struggling to see a combative midfield from those available.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 19, 2021, 08:44:07 AM
 Bissouma and Lallana are better than most midfield pairings we could put out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ROBBO on November 19, 2021, 08:47:55 AM
Same here, Luiz although in my book a tad overated is the most reliable we have, it just proves that we badly misjudged last trading period. Many say Smith had no role in transfers, if not I would like to know the name of the idiot that made that call, I would like him sacked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 19, 2021, 09:00:19 AM
Lange surely. Not convinced we need the guy personally
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 19, 2021, 09:16:55 AM
Same here, Luiz although in my book a tad overated is the most reliable we have, it just proves that we badly misjudged last trading period. Many say Smith had no role in transfers, if not I would like to know the name of the idiot that made that call, I would like him sacked.
It has been stated enough times that the triumvirate including Smith decided transfers.
Pretty sure it will be the same with SG.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: aj2k77 on November 19, 2021, 09:29:43 AM
So pretty much everyone who was injured for the last game is still injured for this one .....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: VinnieChase84 on November 19, 2021, 09:32:26 AM
Their first choice keeper is out apparently.

They are missing Mwepo as well
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 19, 2021, 10:36:59 AM
SG has made it clear his first priority is going to be to tighten up at the back, so I don't think we should be expecting any swashbuckling performances just yet.

With Luiz out I don't see any other option than starting with Nakamba in midfield, much as I know this will annoy some.  Other combinations are likely to just be too lightweight, particulalrly as Bissouma is likely to dominate.

So, with the latest injury news I'd expect:

          Martinez 
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Nakamba   Ramsey
Buendia   Ings   Watkins

I think Watkins gets in over Bailey for his fitness and work rate.  But I wouldn't be shocked if Young gets the nod, either at leftback or left in the front 3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 19, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
I still think there's a surprise in store. Wouldn't bet against Archer and or Chukwuemeka getting the nod.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ozzjim on November 19, 2021, 10:57:30 AM
I have a feeling Tim Iroegbunam might be quite close. Been excellent in the cup games and the PL2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: VILLA MOLE on November 19, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
I have a feeling Tim Iroegbunam might be quite close. Been excellent in the cup games and the PL2.


where does he play ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: chrisw1 on November 19, 2021, 11:06:05 AM
I still think there's a surprise in store. Wouldn't bet against Archer and or Chukwuemeka getting the nod.
Possibly, if so it could be Chuck in midfield and McGinn in one of the forward roles, probably in place of Buendia.  I'd be amazed if Archer started.

         Martinez
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
Chuck   Nakamba   Ramsey
McGinn   Ings   Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 19, 2021, 11:28:18 AM
I think Archer surprised Smith and Shakespeare with how good he was and how determined too (which is pretty crap if they didn't know already). I think it isn't inconceivable that he gets a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: London Villan on November 19, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
As a new manager, you'd surely want to make some sort of statement about what your selections will look like and why they are better than the previous guy in charge. Otherwise, we may as well of kept him!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: john2710 on November 19, 2021, 11:46:55 AM
I think we're very unlikely to see any radical team selections that include unproven players. Unless injuries provide us with no other option.

It'll be the team that's most compact & offers the highest level of pressing. 
With hopefully some options from the bench if needed.

                               Martinez
      Cash            Konsa        Mings        Targett
                Ramsey    Nakamba     McGinn
      Buendia                 Ings                 Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: algy on November 19, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
SG has made it clear his first priority is going to be to tighten up at the back, so I don't think we should be expecting any swashbuckling performances just yet.

With Luiz out I don't see any other option than starting with Nakamba in midfield, much as I know this will annoy some.  Other combinations are likely to just be too lightweight, particulalrly as Bissouma is likely to dominate.

So, with the latest injury news I'd expect:

          Martinez 
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Nakamba   Ramsey
Buendia   Ings   Watkins

I think Watkins gets in over Bailey for his fitness and work rate.  But I wouldn't be shocked if Young gets the nod, either at leftback or left in the front 3.
I reckon that'll be the starting lineup.  Archer, JPB, and Chuk all on the bench, with a decent chance of coming on.   Formation to look more like

          Martinez 
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Nakamba   Ramsey
    Buendia     Watkins
               Ings
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 19, 2021, 11:50:11 AM
As a new manager, you'd surely want to make some sort of statement about what your selections will look like and why they are better than the previous guy in charge. Otherwise, we may as well of kept him!

I think the interesting thing here is that there isn't anyone that hasn't been picked that the fans have been clamouring to see. It's not like Smith was leaving anyone out or anything, we've just had lots of injury issues.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Richard E on November 19, 2021, 12:00:05 PM
I have absolutely no idea how this is going to go. I have absolutely no idea how Steven Gerrard is going to perform as our manager full stop. Its exciting, weird and scary all at the same time. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Mister E on November 19, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
As a new manager, you'd surely want to make some sort of statement about what your selections will look like and why they are better than the previous guy in charge. Otherwise, we may as well of kept him!
I think the interesting thing here is that there isn't anyone that hasn't been picked that the fans have been clamouring to see. It's not like Smith was leaving anyone out or anything, we've just had lots of injury issues.
Well, and playing 3 at the back, the players not being fit enough and poor substitutions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 19, 2021, 12:22:53 PM
As a new manager, you'd surely want to make some sort of statement about what your selections will look like and why they are better than the previous guy in charge. Otherwise, we may as well of kept him!
I think the interesting thing here is that there isn't anyone that hasn't been picked that the fans have been clamouring to see. It's not like Smith was leaving anyone out or anything, we've just had lots of injury issues.
Well, and playing 3 at the back, the players not being fit enough and poor substitutions.

That's a different issue. I'm talking about the players. When there's a managerial change, the fans are usually wanting someone different to play. And there's none of that this time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 19, 2021, 12:49:09 PM
Only one surprise inclusion I can see. Well a surprise for those who've haven't followed Mr. Gerrard's next-level progressive tactics up North

(https://i.giphy.com/media/igsLgDdofLMW6lAmIz/200.gif)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Chris Smith on November 19, 2021, 12:56:33 PM
I have absolutely no idea how this is going to go. I have absolutely no idea how Steven Gerrard is going to perform as our manager full stop. Its exciting, weird and scary all at the same time. 

Yep, I feel the same.

I’m hoping that we get an improved performance with the players all be trying to impress the new manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Rotterdam on November 19, 2021, 01:08:09 PM
I have a feeling Tim Iroegbunam might be quite close. Been excellent in the cup games and the PL2.

He certainly wouldn't be phased by being around he 1st team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 19, 2021, 01:19:34 PM
At this rate I wish SG hadn't retired as a player , we could do with him on the field .  The midfield is a problem at the moment , lets hope we get someone in Jan .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: sickbeggar on November 19, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
"THERE'S ONLY ONE IGREGUBNHMAM
ONE  IGROEGegbunham….
THERE'S ONLY ONE TIM"
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: TonyD on November 19, 2021, 04:05:50 PM
SG has made it clear his first priority is going to be to tighten up at the back, so I don't think we should be expecting any swashbuckling performances just yet.

With Luiz out I don't see any other option than starting with Nakamba in midfield, much as I know this will annoy some.  Other combinations are likely to just be too lightweight, particulalrly as Bissouma is likely to dominate.

So, with the latest injury news I'd expect:

          Martinez 
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Nakamba   Ramsey
Buendia   Ings   Watkins

I think Watkins gets in over Bailey for his fitness and work rate.  But I wouldn't be shocked if Young gets the nod, either at leftback or left in the front 3.
I reckon that'll be the starting lineup.  Archer, JPB, and Chuk all on the bench, with a decent chance of coming on.   Formation to look more like

          Martinez 
Cash   Konsa   Mings   Targett
McGinn   Nakamba   Ramsey
    Buendia     Watkins
               Ings

He best not ever play Nakamba. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 19, 2021, 04:21:54 PM
I'm sure i saw Nakamba out for 4 weeks with injury?

It will be more how they play than how they line up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Damo70 on November 19, 2021, 04:23:44 PM
At this rate I wish SG hadn't retired as a player , we could do with him on the field .  The midfield is a problem at the moment , lets hope we get someone in Jan .

Last week we didn't want him near Villa Park and now we want him as player manager. The next thing we will know he will have a seat on the board.  ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Legion on November 19, 2021, 06:46:21 PM
I think Archer surprised Smith and Shakespeare with how good he was and how determined too (which is pretty crap if they didn't know already). I think it isn't inconceivable that he gets a chance.

Agreed. He should. However we'll see what Gerrard thinks tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: achilles on November 19, 2021, 06:59:58 PM
I'm sure i saw Nakamba out for 4 weeks with injury?

It will be more how they play than how they line up

It just goes to show how little people read the thread before posting team selections as this was mentioned earlier in the thread, that leaves us with McGinn, Ramsey and Luis (if fit otherwise we are left with Young in midfield). We cannot play youngsters in the position we are currently in so SG options are very limited!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Lastfootstamper on November 19, 2021, 07:11:58 PM
If the youngsters can't play, why are they with the first team squad?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 19, 2021, 07:40:53 PM
"THERE'S ONLY ONE IGREGUBNHMAM
ONE  IGROEGegbunham….
THERE'S ONLY ONE TIM"

As long as we don't hear 'Stevie, give us a wave' I'll be happy. Oh and 3 points obviously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Aldridge Villa on November 19, 2021, 08:55:23 PM
Will be delighted tomorrow if Mr Gerrard is asked to give us a wave as that will be on the basis the game is going well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: caster troy on November 19, 2021, 09:02:10 PM
Would love to see the start of a new era with Chuk, JPB and Archer involved but something tells me it’ll be a very cautious lineup, maybe Tuanzebe as a holding midfielder, possibly Young in there too. Hope I’m wrong, we need a win with tough games coming up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2021, 09:07:27 PM
I have a horrible feeling we are going to be Stev.ie G's claranbluearmee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: adrenachrome on November 19, 2021, 09:18:49 PM
I have a horrible feeling we are going to be Stev.ie G's claranbluearmee.

Nailed on, and you can take it to the bank Mr. W.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Legion on November 19, 2021, 09:32:25 PM
Would love to see the start of a new era with Chuk, JPB and Archer involved but something tells me it’ll be a very cautious lineup, maybe Tuanzebe as a holding midfielder, possibly Young in there too. Hope I’m wrong, we need a win with tough games coming up.

I'm going for the latter. Or possibly a mix of the two.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Aldridge Villa on November 19, 2021, 09:35:10 PM
If Young is the latter I’m not hopeful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Steve67 on November 19, 2021, 09:42:55 PM
We really do have a problem in midfield don't we?  Has to be Ramsey, McGinn and Carney for me, simply because there don't seem to be any other options.  I bet our new boss is desperate to see the transfer window open. If Ashley Young is the answer, we really are in trouble.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 19, 2021, 10:39:06 PM
Can't Axel play DM?

Just have to stick him in there and hope he can stick his foot in and break up some attacks.

Then McGinn (although he'll have to be disciplined not to get forward much) and then one of Ramsey/Carney.

Sticking Young as the DM would really sum up our season wouldn't it so can't believe that's a serious option.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 19, 2021, 10:39:35 PM
I have a horrible feeling we are going to be Stev.ie G's claranbluearmee.

Nailed on, and you can take it to the bank Mr. W.



I want us to win games. If it prompts singing the managers name, even if it is a little vomit inducing I’m fine with it. Better that than losing week after week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: eamonn on November 19, 2021, 11:45:14 PM
Is Ings out injured still? I've heard conflicting news on that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: CT Villan on November 20, 2021, 03:02:34 AM
Given SG's proclivity for 4-2-3-1 he could go :

                Emi
Cash  Konsa  Mings  Targett
       McGinn  Nakamba
    Buendia  Ings  Bailey
               Watkins

I think we'll win and the fans will make the atmosphere electric.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 20, 2021, 03:10:22 AM
Given SG's proclivity for 4-2-3-1 he could go :

                Emi
Cash  Konsa  Mings  Targett
       McGinn  Nakamba
    Buendia  Ings  Bailey
               Watkins

I think we'll win and the fans will make the atmosphere electric.
I understand it is
4 3 2 1
He pushes the fullbacks on and 2 number 10s behind a centre forward
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: adrenachrome on November 20, 2021, 04:11:48 AM
Can't Axel play DM?

Just have to stick him in there and hope he can stick his foot in and break up some attacks.

Then McGinn (although he'll have to be disciplined not to get forward much) and then one of Ramsey/Carney.

Sticking Young as the DM would really sum up our season wouldn't it so can't believe that's a serious option.

I think Axel can play in that position.  Good call.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: steamer on November 20, 2021, 07:28:11 AM
I would like him at left back, in the dressing room
Stevie V maybe, bit corny though
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 20, 2021, 08:48:59 AM
Can't Axel play DM?

Just have to stick him in there and hope he can stick his foot in and break up some attacks.

Then McGinn (although he'll have to be disciplined not to get forward much) and then one of Ramsey/Carney.

Sticking Young as the DM would really sum up our season wouldn't it so can't believe that's a serious option.

I think Axel can play in that position.  Good call.

I've seen him in play in his suposed position at centre back. No thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 20, 2021, 08:49:26 AM
let's play players in their proper position.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: LeeB on November 20, 2021, 08:50:42 AM
In Tuanzebe's case that's the bench. He's weak as piss and clumsy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 20, 2021, 08:52:00 AM
After two weeks of meh we finally have a match and I feel bit more positive today. Hopefully we start our season proper today. And please beat these buggers, lots of these Blue stripey shirts around here now since they got that new stadium.
Early red for Maupay please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 20, 2021, 09:05:49 AM
From The Analyst

Gerrard, or ‘Stevie G’ to his admirers, knows that his Aston Villa team have slipped up on numerous occasions this season, throwing away a 2-0 lead at home to Wolves matchweek eight being the most painful. Brighton and Hove Albion will be the subject of Gerrard’s first Premier League team talk, and he’ll surely point out that the south coast thinkers have gone six Premier League matches without a win. Even so, Graham Potter’s team haven’t lost away from home yet but that’s not good enough for the supercomputer, which gives Villa, sorry, ‘Steven Gerrard’s Aston Villa’, a 41.5% chance of victory.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Scott Nielsen on November 20, 2021, 09:25:36 AM
As a new manager, you'd surely want to make some sort of statement about what your selections will look like and why they are better than the previous guy in charge. Otherwise, we may as well of kept him!
I think the interesting thing here is that there isn't anyone that hasn't been picked that the fans have been clamouring to see. It's not like Smith was leaving anyone out or anything, we've just had lots of injury issues.
Well, and playing 3 at the back, the players not being fit enough and poor substitutions.

That's a different issue. I'm talking about the players. When there's a managerial change, the fans are usually wanting someone different to play. And there's none of that this time.

I suppose it means a lot of people felt our poor run had less to do with the players we have and more to do with how they were managed. We'll see in a month's or two's time. I am not convinced about the quality of our squad, nor how we were setup to play so I can claim victory either way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Ads on November 20, 2021, 09:48:20 AM
I am buzzing for this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Richard on November 20, 2021, 10:17:04 AM
I'm excited too just wish our injuries would clear up quicker, I have no idea how many are unavailable today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Villa Lew on November 20, 2021, 11:07:18 AM
Really looking forward to this one, interesting to see if he'll start with both Watkins and Ings, going 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on November 20, 2021, 11:10:07 AM
The talking and hype stops here. If we can win with a new manager bounce, we'll all be happy bunnies for the rest of the weekend. Hoping John McGinn can play more forward and score. 2-1 us?

Thermal tights for the Holte End are at the ready...

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 20, 2021, 11:26:23 AM
So excited I'm heading into town extra early.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: The Edge on November 20, 2021, 11:35:24 AM
I met some Swedish lads last night who wanted to be here for the occasion. They're not even Villa fans they support teams in Stockholm but such is the interest surrounding the Villa right now they said they had to be here. Bloody hell if Gerrard gets it right we could be going global!
So maybe Purslow does know a bit more than me after all.
 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Skerra on November 20, 2021, 12:19:18 PM
Talking about Swedes, I see Ketchup has been given the boot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 20, 2021, 12:26:33 PM
let's play players in their proper position.

Well it's either Axel, McGinn or Young for DM and that isn't a proper position for any of them so only other option is to give the young lad a go but tough ask for him in there v likes of Bissouma.

That's the negative today as not sure midfield trio we'll put out will cope with Brighton who have some good players in that area.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Beard82 on November 20, 2021, 12:29:22 PM
I'm actually quite excited.  I hope that the team doesn't play with the weight of the world on their shoulders like they seem to have at times this season.

Whilst I wasn't behind the appointment - he's our manager now - so I will get right behind him.  I have been impressed with the setup - he seems to have a very good team around him - and an idea for how he wants his team to play. 

I just have this pleasant, nagging feeling, that despite my reservations this could actually work out very well

He does inherit a team that currently does not have a midfield - which is a concern and I am interested to see what he does.  I'm hoping for McGinn, Ramsey Snr, Chuck



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Legion on November 20, 2021, 12:31:09 PM
https://www.facebook.com/129445223749711/posts/5365153750178806/
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Beard82 on November 20, 2021, 12:34:31 PM
https://www.facebook.com/129445223749711/posts/5365153750178806/
I read that earlier.  I loved this bit at the end:

"I might not have been their preferred choice but I am their manager now.
I was now ‘The Chosen One’ and they were giving me their 100 per cent support. That moment will stay with me for a lifetime."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SamTheMouse on November 20, 2021, 12:41:14 PM
Well, he's talked a good game.

But the proof is in the pudding. And the pudding, in this case, is a football....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 20, 2021, 12:43:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/129445223749711/posts/5365153750178806/
Brilliant!

Hope SG feels something similar!
UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Drummond on November 20, 2021, 01:16:55 PM
What's the article please for those of us who don't use farcebook?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Legion on November 20, 2021, 01:26:45 PM
Mat Kendrick:

Quote
Villa Park prepares for Steven Gerrard's dugout debut today. The last fella to mark his Villa management debut with a Premier League win was John Gregory in February 1998, beating Liverpool 2-1.
Here's JG's brilliant description of what it was like walking down the Trinity Road track for the first time as Aston Villa boss.
"My players left the dressing room and headed down the long flight of stairs to the pitch. A few minutes later I had to do the same.
The anticipation of stepping out into the sunny cauldron that was waiting for me in my first appearance as manager had my heart ticking a lot faster than normal.
I was convinced that the Villa faithful would welcome me with a half hearted response.
A polite round of applause maybe. A lot of boos even.
In a poll in the paper I wasn’t even mentioned in the 10 names that had a chance of the job. No, it’ll be loads of abuse. Steel yourself for it, JG.
I stepped from the darkness of that narrow tunnel into the brilliant sunshine of Villa Park at its finest.
The ground crammed full and awash with claret and blue and an explosion of noise and tension.
I started my walk from the tunnel and headed the fifty yards or so to my seat in the dugout. The Villa fans saw me. They started to cheer and applaud. It got louder and louder.
They started to stand up and shout my name. Wow, they like me! I wasn’t expecting this.
You will never be able to comprehend how I felt at that moment. The enormity of that welcome. The acceptance of the Villa faithful.
I might not have been their preferred choice but I am their manager now.
I was now ‘The Chosen One’ and they were giving me their 100 per cent support. That moment will stay with me for a lifetime."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: ozzjim on November 20, 2021, 01:46:16 PM
Sanson and Nakamba at the ground with their kit
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 20, 2021, 02:01:36 PM
Nakamba fit then. Probably the expected team with Ollie on left.

Bailey and Sanson on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Demitri_C on November 20, 2021, 02:03:28 PM
Sanson on bench which is interesting. Good to see ings back. Im guessing ollie on left and buendia on right.

Bailey dropped
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Brighton pre-match thread - Sat 20 Nov 3pm
Post by: Risso on November 22, 2021, 11:20:32 PM
So, a new beginning then.


Not much time for Gerrard to work with the squad. Brighton have had a good start to the season, but haven’t won in 7, and their recent results have been a mixed bag. Decent battling draws with Liverpool and Leicester, but also disappointing draws with Norwich and Newcastle.


I’m going to go for a straightforward 2-0 home win, to get Villa Park bouncing again and Gerard’s reign off to a good start.





Not only did I predict the correct score, I also had a tenner on it at 10-1. That's me about £430 up on Villa bets for the season. In your face Damo! ;)
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