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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 21, 2021, 04:57:19 PM
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Good result, ok performance. Silver lining. We are 4 goals, none conceded since being 3-0 down at Watford. Lots of players to come back in and others to step up and play better.
Danny Ings with one of the best first goals at Villa Park for us you’ll see. Great signing
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That'll do. Plenty to work on, but did enough today. Midfield way better, and Ramsey is looking very promising.
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Very happy with a win given the first half hour or so. The better team from then on, bar a brief spell after our second.
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Clean sheet number one.
Ings two in two.
Positive goal difference.
The team is coming together.
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Ings is quality. Buendia was better this week. Ramsey is coming on very nicely. We could do with Bailey being back for his pace. We could do with Watkins being back for his work-rate. We still look like we could use an anchor-man type player.
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That’ll do…not the best, but we win
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Delighted with the win, Ings' goal was pure brilliance, Buendìa was improved and Ramsey looked really good in midfield.
We will need to improve though, this was one of the easiest games on-paper of the season and we gutted through it with no small amount of luck (Wilson's miss, Wilson's being a ballhair offside). I appreciate players were missing who'd make us more dangerous, but there are structural issues too, i.e. far too many long balls, lack of movement in midfield and a very worrying openness through the middle of the defence.
Still, that's for another day. VP looked absolutely ferocious, fuck I wish I was there for this one. At least we're back, and with a win in the bag.
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Good win. After Wilson missed that complete sitter you just knew it was going to be our day.
I think goal of the month is pretty much wrapped up. That Ings spectacular won't be beaten.
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Fantastic goal from Danny Ings, solid 3 pts, looked lacking in creativity in midfield area's at times, but then we have been used to one of the best players in the world doing that job.
We go again.
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Good results when not playing well with your best players out is the perfect way to go. It's what the best sides do.
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So so performance but three points. Third year in a row we’ve done the Geordies 2-0 at home.
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After a poor opening 20 minutes, I thought we were pretty decent.
Best game from Ramsey starting and generally midfield far more balanced today, SJM and Luiz did fine. Young was excellent at LB, oozes experience there.
Newcastle limited team as we know but they'll obviously take points off top half teams as season goes on so for where we are presently as a club that's a good win for me.
Nice to have VAR go for us today, was surprised the Newcastle penalty got overturned as thought those sorts of offsides wouldn't be called this season.
Thought atmosphere was brilliant aswell, crowd played it exactly as was needed so hopefully same again for Brentford.
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Managed to find a stream 2 mins before Ings goal. What a finish! I enjoyed that, lovely to see a full Holte in full voice.
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Ings is quality. Buendia was better this week. Ramsey is coming on very nicely. We could do with Bailey being back for his pace. We could do with Watkins being back for his work-rate. We still look like we could use an anchor-man type player.
The link to Abdou Harroui coming in from Sparta Rotterdam looks strong. Let's see.
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Oh yeah and Dougie Luiz, superb.
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3 points on the board. The team are still getting to know each other.
Great to see VP with all the fans back.
Definitely play Young at LB,
Best game I've seen Ramsey play.
Beudilia looked promising.
Is Mings carrying a rib injury?
Why did Emi still get a yellow when the pen appeal was offside?
Goal of the season contender from Mings.
3 points against Brentford please.
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Three points and Ramsey looks the biz.
Let’s hope we can buy a couple more players next week and ship AEG out.
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3 points on the board. The team are still getting to know each other.
Great to see VP with all the fans back.
Definitely play Young at LB,
Best game I've seen Ramsey play.
Beudilia looked promising.
Is Mings carrying a rib injury?
Why did Emi still get a yellow when the pen appeal was offside?
Goal of the season contender from Mings.
3 points against Brentford please.
Dangerous play, i'd imagine.
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Felt quite comfortable tbh.
Didn't feel like we were in danger at any point.
Ings is a gem.
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Chanelled our Inner Tony Pulis Stoke to get that one.
I didnt think we played well at all to be honest, no real pattern of play other than to smash it long.
Fair play for digging in though and getting the victory in circumstances that I don't think we would of done in previous seasons.
Props to the new Set Piece coach, earned his money today.
Hopefully Bailey, Watkins and Sanson back next week.
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I thought we were fine. We've seen that performance from a Bruce team many times where killing the game was the only plan and whilst it stopped us creating as many chances as we'd have liked we had the quality to get the goals we needed. Martinez was barely involved in the game and other than the early chance for Wilson I can't think of any time where I was worried they might score.
I'm not sure why there was so much moaning on the match thread.
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To be fair the bar codes were abysmal. But you can not beat what is in front of you
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I thought we were fine. We've seen that performance from a Bruce team many times where killing the game was the only plan and whilst it stopped us creating as many chances as we'd have liked we had the quality to get the goals we needed. Martinez was barely involved in the game and other than the early chance for Wilson I can't think of any time where I was worried they might score.
I'm not sure why there was so much moaning on the match thread.
Moaning = criticism I disagree with. You were content with what you saw, I wasn't so much. Doesn't make either of us bad people, you know.
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That'll do. Plenty to work on, but did enough today. Midfield way better, and Ramsey is looking very promising.
Yup. SJM, Dougie and Ramsey all put in a massive shift. 3 valuable points, an amazing goal, superb second from our penalty taker and special praise for Mings the Lionheart who led by example.
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Clean sheet, comfortable victory without playing well at all. Alot of improvement to be made but with that team full of injuries cant be too harsh.
Ramsey was reallh good today
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Good to be up and running to get last week out their systems. Room for improvement of course, but hopefully getting there
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We talk about the injuries, about the pre-season, but here's the thing. Those centre-backs and midfielders have all been here for years, were mostly first-choice and can all pass the ball. If they aren't moving well enough off the ball to found a way round Newcastle's press - not them sitting in, but when they were pressing the ball - that's because the coaching staff, for years, haven't managed to instill it in them. I'm delighted with the win (at home, with some luck, over relegation candidates), but Europe? I just can't see it, which is a bit deflating. I obviously hope to be massively wrong.
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I thought we were fine. We've seen that performance from a Bruce team many times where killing the game was the only plan and whilst it stopped us creating as many chances as we'd have liked we had the quality to get the goals we needed. Martinez was barely involved in the game and other than the early chance for Wilson I can't think of any time where I was worried they might score.
I'm not sure why there was so much moaning on the match thread.
Moaning = criticism I disagree with. You were content with what you saw, I wasn't so much. Doesn't make either of us bad people, you know.
No I meant what I typed, and for what it's worth I didn't count you as moaning because you actually had a point behind what you were saying, even if I did disagree.
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A better second half but overall not that great. Ramsey was good in flashes and made some nice passes. Buendia was better than last week, but still too easily dispossessed and a bit slow. Strangely flat atmosphere in the ground.
One of the best goals you’ll ever see from Ings though. All those ‘stockpiled’ midfielders and Smith brings Tuanzebe on to play there.
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I thought we were fine. We've seen that performance from a Bruce team many times where killing the game was the only plan and whilst it stopped us creating as many chances as we'd have liked we had the quality to get the goals we needed. Martinez was barely involved in the game and other than the early chance for Wilson I can't think of any time where I was worried they might score.
I'm not sure why there was so much moaning on the match thread.
Moaning = criticism I disagree with. You were content with what you saw, I wasn't so much. Doesn't make either of us bad people, you know.
No I meant what I typed, and for what it's worth I didn't count you as moaning because you actually had a point behind what you were saying, even if I did disagree.
Ha, fair enough!
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Still finding rhythm. Passing is a little cumbersome. Maybe we were a tad cautious given wet conditions, but some balls just seemed a bit light. Got better as the game went on though and our midfield began to dominate. Great finish from Ings. He didn't get much else otherwise, but the service wasn't quite there. Ings isn't generally going to drop deep and get the ball, and when he's so good within 12 yards, nor should he. In a 3 he doesn't have to work channels as much. The key thing though, much like Bent I guess when he was here, he's sharp when his moment comes. (Ings all round play and workrate is of course, better than Bent's was). Ramsey was man of the match for me. He's probably the one CM who has a bit of zip about the way he drives forward. There's a turn of pace there. So it seems evident why he's playing. Ash Young was composed all game. Newcastle have pace in the side but didn't seem to direct them too wide and try to isolate him (that'd be too outrageously adventurous for Bruce). I did think, understandably, Ash tired after 75 minutes. They could have exploited that better but didn't. (Again...Bruce)...El Goalzi's penalty was typically superb. Not much else quite came off for him in the final third. Same with Beundia.
Overall, is this becoming a banker fixture? Lets see how we do against Brentford. As for Smith, for me he should have made some subs a little earlier. Better opposition might punish us more. We were looking leggy in places.
Additional note, although their offside goal was technically offside, it's the kind of decision I really don't like. It's so tight, so borderline and back in the day they'd give the advantage to the attacker. I know it evens out and Watkins suffered similar a few times last season, but dragging the game to a halt to make those calls is also frustrating. Had that been us, I'd have been annoyed. Our pen was a more useful use of VAR. That's something it should be there for as that was very clear cut. An inch offside? Neh. Just give it to the attackers.
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Well done Villa off and running and a clean sheet, hopefully Bailey and Ollie will be back soon.
UP THE VILLA
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The ref was dismal today, not remotely competent.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-newcastle/report/446299
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When we're missing Traore, Watkins and Bailey it is nice to have a fairly routine win.
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A win was needed, and it is always pleasing to take three points against against Potato Head. Fantastic goal from Ings and a cool penalty from El Ghazi. Other than that...
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Still finding rhythm. Passing is a little cumbersome. Maybe we were a tad cautious given wet conditions, but some balls just seemed a bit light. Got better as the game went on though and our midfield began to dominate. Great finish from Ings. He didn't get much else otherwise, but the service wasn't quite there. Ings isn't generally going to drop deep and get the ball, and when he's so good within 12 yards, nor should he. In a 3 he doesn't have to work channels as much. The key thing though, much like Bent I guess when he was here, he's sharp when his moment comes. (Ings all round play and workrate is of course, better than Bent's was). Ramsey was man of the match for me. He's probably the one CM who has a bit of zip about the way he drives forward. There's a turn of pace there. So it seems evident why he's playing. Ash Young was composed all game. Newcastle have pace in the side but didn't seem to direct them too wide and try to isolate him (that'd be too outrageously adventurous for Bruce). I did think, understandably, Ash tired after 75 minutes. They could have exploited that better but didn't. (Again...Bruce)...El Goalzi's penalty was typically superb. Not much else quite came off for him in the final third. Same with Beundia.
Overall, is this becoming a banker fixture? Lets see how we do against Brentford. As for Smith, for me he should have made some subs a little earlier. Better opposition might punish us more. We were looking leggy in places.
Additional note, although their offside goal was technically offside, it's the kind of decision I really don't like. It's so tight, so borderline and back in the day they'd give the advantage to the attacker. I know it evens out and Watkins suffered similar a few times last season, but dragging the game to a halt to make those calls is also frustrating. Had that been us, I'd have been annoyed. Our pen was a more useful use of VAR. That's something it should be there for as that was very clear cut. An inch offside? Neh. Just give it to the attackers.
It wasn't a goal, their offside was picked up as part of the penalty being checked. No guarantee they'd score with Emi in goal.
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A good result considering I thought we’d struggle. Ramsey was good, Buendia better than last week and Ings did what he does.
Now, go get that centre midfield general…
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Wilson was clearly offside with or without the lines. If he hadn’t have been taken out by Emi and scored in a 1v1 situation then I’d have expected the linesman to have flagged it even without the use of VAR.
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Whilst it might be easy to criticise him, remember:
Deano has lost RO'K and JT from his coaching team, as well as "He who cannot be named".
He's working on developing a new style of play, whilst trying to correct the deficiencies identified from last season and integrating a whole bunch of new players and bringing JJ on and giving Chucky and JPB essebtial minutes as they develop their game awareness and confidence.
Piece of piss really.
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happier with the energy in the middle of the park today
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I posted on Facebook this morning that I had a horrible gut feeling that Jonjo Shelvey would have his one good game of the season today, I was wrong, he didn't play! Well done Villa I'd had my doubts all week, shows what I know. Keep it up.
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Defensively we looked better for sure.cash was better today than last week as was mings second half especially
Id play targett vs barrow to get his confidence back
Newcastle are dreadful they could go down in my opinion
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Rather horribly for Newcastle they don't just look bad, but also unlucky.
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The ref was dismal today, not remotely competent.
Some of the fouls he just let go was ridiculous
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The ref was dismal today, not remotely competent.
he didn't give us anything for the first 20 mins - a total shambles. He also got the handball wrong - how he didn't see it was a joke.
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From the Guardian match report - winning's easy with that extra man:
With Douglas Luiz back just 14 days after helping Brazil win Olympic gold and calmly protecting the back four, offering McGinn and Jacob Ramsey freedom in a 4-4-3 shape, Villa looked increasingly secure.
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midfield was much better today - more balance and a lot better tempo and work rate - hopefully that disgrace at Watford gave them all the kick up the arse they needed
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Just knew watford would absolute shite today. How did we go 3-0 down to them ffs?
Glad to see we put that right today
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From the Guardian match report - winning's easy with that extra man:
With Douglas Luiz back just 14 days after helping Brazil win Olympic gold and calmly protecting the back four, offering McGinn and Jacob Ramsey freedom in a 4-4-3 shape, Villa looked increasingly secure.
We had 11 outfield players? At last we’ve made the extra man count!
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Looked more comfortable as the game wore on, flashes of McGinn, flashes of Luiz...top finish from Ings, that's what he brings!. Rocky start against a team that look 15-20th finish at this juncture. Funny that the pundits seem to fancy us more than we do!?
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Much better shape today, and a more balanced midfield. Ramsey was shaky to start with but grew in confidence. Strange to see Young back as a combative full back. Cash did well I thought. Mings immense. I feel for El Ghazi, absolutely superb on penalties but he just can’t get past his man, if only he was a bit quicker he could be a real player for us.
If we can get Watkins, Bailey and Traore fit we’ll hopefully have a decent season.
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The ref was dismal today, not remotely competent.
Some of the fouls he just let go was ridiculous
Apparently refs have been instructed to let the games flow so we’ll see plenty of this over the season. Klopp has already started moaning about it on SSN, so this won’t be the last we hear about poor refereeing for obvious fouls.
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The problem was he was giving them fouls and not us - so it's not like he was letting the game flow often enough
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The problem was he was giving them fouls and not us - so it's not like he was letting the game flow often enough
in the end we conceded 8 fouls to their 18 and I reckon there were 5-6 they committed that he let go.
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Surprised in the game stats that Newcastle slightly edged possession…didn’t feel like that watching for me, although the goals are the only important stat at the end of the day.
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“We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Steve Bruce
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Surprised in the game stats that Newcastle slightly edged possession…didn’t feel like that watching for me, although the goals are the only important stat at the end of the day.
it was about 55% us until we were 2-0 up and then we let them have the ball a lot more.
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“We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Steve Bruce
should have been called off really 🤔
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“We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Steve Bruce
Yes this game of football hangs on small drops like that.
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I spent most the game taking my daughter to get her first Covid jab at a walk in centre. She works at a busy holiday park and it’s pretty rife here now so we didn’t want to wait for the call up. I’m sure as it’s so bloody busy down here the 4G is being all being absorbed and I was going potty trying to keep tabs on the score. My car stereo doesn’t play AM so all I had was BBC Radio Devon playing Exeter City with the odd visit to Torquay and Plymouth.
Why does my bloody phone say 4G and then not work! Grrrr.
Anyway we’ll done Villa. Good to hear Ramsey played well and JPB feature at the end. Stunning goal by Ings too!
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Three points and Ramsey looks the biz.
Let’s hope we can buy a couple more players next week and ship AEG out.
Yeh, that 100% penalty record definitely needs replacing.
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Pleased with the result and a clean sheet was brilliant.
Ing's goal was special. A great instinctive player to have in the team.
Still a lot of work to do, felt we dropped off the pace of the game after the 2nd goal. It'll be great to have Watkins back and I look forward to seeing what Bailey can do.
Still need a strong midfield signing!
Newcastle under bruce look like they will struggle. I wonder how long he'll last there, hopefully all season!
UTV!
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I was pleased with the performance a bit disjointed at times but you could see some green shoots of fluency. So scores on the doors for me
Martinez - 7 didn’t have much to do and apart from the rush of blood to the head was secure.
Cash - 7 got forward well much more than I’d noticed before and was pretty ok defensively, out of position a couple of times but generally ok.
Konsa - 7 solid reliable, unflustered
Mings - 7.5 a real warrior got done a couple of times but superbly led the defence in the second half.
Young - 7 did well combative and in the refs face constantly. Was winding up Wilson all afternoon.
Luiz - 7 grew into the game but took and used the ball well all afternoon.
McGinn - 7 constantly fouled but good to see John contributing positively on both directions.
Ramsey -7.5 and MOTM, lovely progressive play once he was up to speed. Has filled out so he can deal with the physical stuff.
El Ghazi - 6.5 was not involved enough and ice cold penalty but still feel as though he’s a bit meh otherwise.
Ings -7.5 lovely goal didn’t get much service but looking sharper.
Buendia- 7 - thought he was good today, seems a bit slow at times so I’m assuming he needs to up his fitness.
Subs - all did what they needed to.
Smith - 7 got his midfield right and you sense there’s more fluency to come.
The opposition- Potato head came for a point as usual and went with none, oh and Callum Wilson what a twat.
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Relieved to get the three points. It was really important we got that win. Brilliant finish from Ings and great pen AEG.
We need to better at controlling the game, we left it too open and gave them a few opportunities. Thought Ramsey did nicely today and Emi B was better physically.
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A win was needed, and it is always pleasing to take three points against against Potato Head. Fantastic goal from Ings and a cool penalty from El Ghazi. Other than that...
That's the way I saw too. Ramsey's best start for us, he's a fine athlete. Young was very good until he tired. That aside it was very average. Badly missing Grealish let's be honest.
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A satisfying win and performance. The difference in work rate between today and last week was a major factor.
Ings, class. Great to see us signing a player totally in their prime.
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Ramsey seems to have added some aggression to his game. Great performance today from him.
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“We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Steve Bruce
Yes this game of football hangs on small drops like that.
Is Souness on their coaching staff now?
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Three points and Ramsey looks the biz.
Let’s hope we can buy a couple more players next week and ship AEG out.
Yeh, that 100% penalty record definitely needs replacing.
he was pretty poor except for the penalty. He is not good enough for this level.
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Routine (!) home win against a poor Newcastle side.
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Three points and Ramsey looks the biz.
Let’s hope we can buy a couple more players next week and ship AEG out.
Yeh, that 100% penalty record definitely needs replacing.
he was pretty poor except for the penalty. He is not good enough for this level.
“This level”? Sorry to be a nark, but until anyone else can be Mr Reliable, I’ll still be defending him.
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Martinez 6 complete rush of blood for the non penalty but did not have much to do.
Cash 7 fully committed performance
Mings 6
Konsa 6
Young 8 used his experience
Luiz 6 sloppy at times
Buendia 8 full of energy and guile
SJM 8 played higher up the pitch and it showed
AEG 4 Great penalty but really poor.
Ramsey 7 a very accomplished performance after some early lapses.
Ings 7 just for the finish
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I was pleased with the performance a bit disjointed at times but you could see some green shoots of fluency. So scores on the doors for me
Martinez - 7 didn’t have much to do and apart from the rush of blood to the head was secure.
Cash - 7 got forward well much more than I’d noticed before and was pretty ok defensively, out of position a couple of times but generally ok.
Konsa - 7 solid reliable, unflustered
Mings - 7.5 a real warrior got done a couple of times but superbly led the defence in the second half.
Young - 7 did well combative and in the refs face constantly. Was winding up Wilson all afternoon.
Luiz - 7 grew into the game but took and used the ball well all afternoon.
McGinn - 7 constantly fouled but good to see John contributing positively on both directions.
Ramsey -7.5 and MOTM, lovely progressive play once he was up to speed. Has filled out so he can deal with the physical stuff.
El Ghazi - 6.5 was not involved enough and ice cold penalty but still feel as though he’s a bit meh otherwise.
Ings -7.5 lovely goal didn’t get much service but looking sharper.
Buendia- 7 - thought he was good today, seems a bit slow at times so I’m assuming he needs to up his fitness.
Subs - all did what they needed to.
Smith - 7 got his midfield right and you sense there’s more fluency to come.
The opposition- Potato head came for a point as usual and went with none, oh and Callum Wilson what a twat.
Good summary. Mainly agree.
I love Emi, but no way is that a 7 performance today. Didn’t have much to do and nearly let them back in it with a rush of blood. 5 for me.
Bit generous for Dougie too. Konsa arguably higher - their best 2 players are their front two and despite lots of possession they didn’t get much of a sniff. Loved Ramsey today.
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Ramsey really impressed me today. Looks a lot bettwe from the last two games to now. Only thing us he needs to be abit vocal he seems like a real quiet chatchter on the pitch
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It was an absolute pleasure to be at a full raucous Villa Park after so long. Could have done with better weather but never mind can't have everything. Arrived a bit early to ensure being able to deal with any covid protocols. There were long lines of queues at every turn style but moving quickly. Got in at about 2.30. It was good to see all my "neighbours" had turned up safe and sound. This I wasn't sure of and a bit nervous that someone might be "missing" so that made the day and of course the result. The phone signal is just as crap as ever and food offering for little ones not much better in North upper but hey we were all there and that's what matters.
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“We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Steve Bruce
Yes this game of football hangs on small drops like that.
Is Souness on their coaching staff now?
Wet rain. The worst kind. Probably the water content.
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Martinez 6 complete rush of blood for the non penalty but did not have much to do.
Cash 7 fully committed performance
Mings 6
Konsa 6
Young 8 used his experience
Luiz 6 sloppy at times
Buendia 8 full of energy and guile
SJM 8 played higher up the pitch and it showed
AEG 4 Great penalty but really poor.
Ramsey 7 a very accomplished performance after some early lapses.
Ings 7 just for the finish
Funny how we all see things differently, I'd go:
Martinez - 6 - not much to do, but rush of blood could have been costly
Cash - 7.5 - much, much better than last week
Mings - 6, overall pretty solid byt typical Mings moment first half that nearly led to a goal
Konsa - 7 - solid
Young - 6.5. did OK, can't escape the feeling he's just an upgraded Elmo though
Luiz - 5 - probably knackered, but well off the pace and sloppy with his passing
McGinn - 7.5 full of energy and good passing
Ramsey - 7.5, lots of nice tackles and some perceptive passing.
Buendia - 6 - some nice touches, but painfully slow and easily bullied off the ball numerous times
El Ghazi - 6 good penalty, not a whole lot else though
Ings - 7.5 for the goal, without that it would have been a 6. We miss Ollie's running with Ings in the team.
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Both the goal and penalty came from dead ball situations. Perhaps a sign the new coach is making a difference
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Good to be back today. I'd forgotten how noisy it can be.
I thought the performance was ok and the result was obviously good. We looked disjointed for a good part of the first half but improved without creating a lot of chances.
Like others, I was impressed with Ramsey. There was much more energy and drive to his game than I had seen previously.
I didn't think Buendia was as good as some are making out. McGinn and Ramsey were better, but I am hopeful Emi will improve.
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The only big gap is Buendia and Young Risso.
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Both the goal and penalty came from dead ball situations. Perhaps a sign the new coach is making a difference
100% Those routines were worked on and I fucking love that.
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Good to be back today. I'd forgotten how noisy it can be.
I thought the performance was ok and the result was obviously good. We looked disjointed for a good part of the first half but improved without creating a lot of chances.
Like others, I was impressed with Ramsey. There was much more energy and drive to his game than I had seen previously.
I didn't think Buendia was as good as some are making out. McGinn and Ramsey were better, but I am hopeful Emi will improve.
If you are one of those people who likes their statistics Buendia's 'numbers' made him the best player in the Championship last season.
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I can't understand how 2 people have given Mings a 6, that's ridiculous, got an assist, won a penalty (which was 100% a goal without the handball) and limited them to 1 shot on target all game and had Wilson riled up and looking like a knob all game. If anything he was ramseys biggest competition for motm.
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Both the goal and penalty came from dead ball situations. Perhaps a sign the new coach is making a difference
After the Ings goal went in, Emi the First ran to the halfway line and gave MacPhee a kiss.
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Routine home win despite not playing well for me. Very pleasing. Absolutely great to be back at the ground again. Funny how you slip back into routine, felt like I'd never been away.
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I can't understand how 2 people have given Mings a 6, that's ridiculous, got an assist, won a penalty (which was 100% a goal without the handball) and limited them to 1 shot on target all game and had Wilson riled up and looking like a knob all game. If anything he was ramseys biggest competition for motm.
I'd probably have given him a 7 if it wasn't for that ricket first half, which against most other teams would have led to us being a goal down.
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I can't understand how 2 people have given Mings a 6, that's ridiculous, got an assist, won a penalty (which was 100% a goal without the handball) and limited them to 1 shot on target all game and had Wilson riled up and looking like a knob all game. If anything he was ramseys biggest competition for motm.
I'd probably have given him a 7 if it wasn't for that ricket first half, which against most other teams would have led to us being a goal down.
That was a foul for me, Wilson just ran into him and gave him a 2 handed shove when he was easily cutting it out otherwise. That was a big part of the piss poor start from the referee.
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SJM was motm for me.
Mings scores bonus points for winding their mob up when jogging off the pitch after receiving treatment, with his beautiful big grin.
Biggest disappointment for me, was Matty Cash's bald patch. Where's that suddenly appeared from?! Sad times.
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Toon ill.
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SJM was motm for me.
Mings scores bonus points for winding their mob up when jogging off the pitch after receiving treatment, with his beautiful big grin.
Biggest disappointment for me, was Matty Cash's bald patch. Where's that suddenly appeared from?! Sad times.
Ha ha, we noticed that. Egg in a nest, he won't be getting the "you're just a shit Jack Grealish chants" for much longer.
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I can't understand how 2 people have given Mings a 6, that's ridiculous, got an assist, won a penalty (which was 100% a goal without the handball) and limited them to 1 shot on target all game and had Wilson riled up and looking like a knob all game. If anything he was ramseys biggest competition for motm.
Mings had a good game after a poor mistake that allowed Wilson to go through
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Toon ill.
Well, I'll applaud that, Leeg!
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I reckon the hair thing is why Ratboy left, he couldn't face being the subject of follicly-challenged banter from the Holte.
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I was listening on the motorway ( several) and VP sounded fantastic. TS was based there for the afternoon.
Adrian Durham was waxing poetic about our lovely stadium (several mentions) and the cracking atmosphere, which he attributed to the brilliant crowd filling it. I could hear you from 100 miles away, no problem. You were fab.
I was so pleased to hear Danny’s Goal go in and later, I was jockeying around the North Circular when we (AEG!) got the penalty yay! 😃 and then they had the VAR call for their issue. It all adds a certain edge when changing lanes to get off at Barking.
I’m so pleased to read the positive reviews for SJM; I think he is such a pivotal player for AV, not only in terms of the team’s performance on the pitch on the day, but also in his personal impact on the squad every day.
Looking forward to MOTD 👍
Toon ill 🤒 good one, Legion!
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I thought McGinn was MoTM: back to his energetic, annoying self, with passes sprayed around and shots tried.
Ramsey got better and better after a slow start.
The back 5 were - well - solid, and I thought Young showed all his experience and nous.
Buendia and Ings - the new boys - played well. Buendia will improve for sure, and Ings just oozes class.
Luiz is a player, for sure, but not the deep-lying midfielder we crave: was Tuanzebe's late intro in that role a clue about future thinking? Prob not! although he could have brought on Marv ...
I'd like to have seen JPB's intro about 15 minutes' earlier, in place of the largely-anonymous AEG.
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I was listening on the motorway ( several) and VP sounded fantastic. TS was based there for the afternoon.
Adrian Durham was waxing poetic about our lovely stadium (several mentions) and the cracking atmosphere, which he attributed to the brilliant crowd filling it. I could hear you from 100 miles away, no problem. You were fab.
I was so pleased to hear Danny’s Goal go in and later, I was jockeying around the North Circular when we (AEG!) got the penalty yay! 😃 and then they had the VAR call for their issue. It all adds a certain edge when changing lanes to get off at Barking.
I’m so pleased to read the positive reviews for SJM, I think he is such a pivotal player for AV, not only in terms of the team’s performance on the pitch on the day, but also in his personal impact on the squad every day.
Looking forward to MOTD 👍
Toon ill 🤒 good one, Legion!
It only took 3 minutes for us to sing about our neighbours
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I wish I could claim originality but as usual I've plagiarised it.
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Steve Bruce @ Villa Park. 2021.
" We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
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Martinez 6 complete rush of blood for the non penalty but did not have much to do.
Cash 7 fully committed performance
Mings 6
Konsa 6
Young 8 used his experience
Luiz 6 sloppy at times
Buendia 8 full of energy and guile
SJM 8 played higher up the pitch and it showed
AEG 4 Great penalty but really poor.
Ramsey 7 a very accomplished performance after some early lapses.
Ings 7 just for the finish
I didn't think Buendia was great. Definitely a good footballer but didn't think much came off for him. Stamina needs a bit of work too.
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Steve Bruce @ Villa Park. 2021.
" We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Fucking hell man, that is golden. This bloke has made himself a millionaire from Football management.
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It only took 3 minutes for us to sing about our neighbours
I def. heard, ‘Allez Allez Allez’ and a lot of sheer Villa support and celebration!
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What a strange game!
Villa scored two goals and the Newcastle keeper never had to make a save, our shooting was abysmal!
Ramsey started like a 'rabbit caught in the headlights' absolutely all over the place for about 10 - 15 minutes, then he got better and better as the game progressed, really pleased that he stayed on till the end as that game will do him the power of good.
Buendia is still not fit (or perhaps carrying an injury) and it is blatantly obvious as he is not involved enough and trying to coast through the game!
Ashley Young is class and his experience is invaluable, don't know how Targett will get his place back.
Cash was much improved and great to see.
Luiz started very well but certainly tired in the second half.
El Ghazi was immense for the penalty, besides the absurd long wait for the decision, the Newcastle players were all having a go at him especially the keeper, under the circumstances it was a brilliant penalty, ice cool for the ice man!
Mings was Mings, solid!
Konsa still needs to up his game especially for better teams than Newcastle.
Ings had little service as our midfileld (should be Buendia but he went awol) still can't play the ball early enough for Ing's runs off the defenders shoulder. His goal was absolutely brilliant, initially the scoreboard came up with Buendia as the scorer but I knew that was wrong immediately as only one Villa player could have scored that goal and he was Ings! Class finisher!
McGinn works his socks off but I am beginning to wonder if it is totally constructive as he doesn't seem to work WITH our midfield.
Overall a win but hardly convincing, still when we do eventually get all our players fit we can make a proper judgement.
A couple of points:
Wish we had Saint-Maximin, he is a player that makes things happen, always a constant danger as he has pace and the ability to beat a player, priceless qualities.
Wesley came on for 6 minutes and looked over weight and totally disinterested, hope I don't have to see him again!
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Martinez 6 complete rush of blood for the non penalty but did not have much to do.
Cash 7 fully committed performance
Mings 6
Konsa 6
Young 8 used his experience
Luiz 6 sloppy at times
Buendia 8 full of energy and guile
SJM 8 played higher up the pitch and it showed
AEG 4 Great penalty but really poor.
Ramsey 7 a very accomplished performance after some early lapses.
Ings 7 just for the finish
I didn't think Buendia was great. Definitely a good footballer but didn't think much came off for him. Stamina needs a bit of work too.
Got back to double up with Cash on Maxim a lot in first half
played some nice through balls
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It only took 3 minutes for us to sing about our neighbours
Bullshit, not once did I sing about Keith and Julie.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? He is the ice man. That’s what he brings! I feel that naming him as someone to move on in other threads on here is underappreciating his role in the squad and the team. He is very good at it.
And
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
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Konsa still needs to up his game especially for better teams than Newcastle
Really? What makes you say that?
as only one Villa player could have scored that goal and he was Ings!
bit of a sweeping statement, that; isn't it?
McGinn works his socks off but I am beginning to wonder if it is totally constructive as he doesn't seem to work WITH our midfield
nah, today he played a little further forward and played his best game for quite a long time in Villa colours.
Wish we had Saint-Maximin, he is a player that makes things happen
except a goal today?
Wesley came on for 6 minutes and looked over weight and totally disinterested ...
Actually, he put himself about quite energetically, I thought. He may not survive at Villa but I think he deserves a chance to get back to full fitness and capability.
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It’s funny how a win can calm you, even in that horrendous traffic getting out.
It was fantastic to be back. I was a bit emosh at the end when sweet Caroline started, it felt like the shit stuff was behind us at long last.
So many people missed that first goal too! That was Steve Bruce 101 from Newcastle. Long ball, nasty, niggly, looking for any foul to gain an advantage. It’s becoming a good old bogey ground for them, and long may that continue.
Our only worrying part was the old guys to our right and in the row in front had been “replaced”. I just hope they’re ok.
Up the fucking Villa.
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Perhaps Wesley will be inspired by Doug getting a gold.
I’m happy to hear he made a positive contribution, going by Mr.E’s assessment of his play, today.
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Konsa still needs to up his game especially for better teams than Newcastle
Really? What makes you say that?
as only one Villa player could have scored that goal and he was Ings!
bit of a sweeping statement, that; isn't it?
McGinn works his socks off but I am beginning to wonder if it is totally constructive as he doesn't seem to work WITH our midfield
nah, today he played a little further forward and played his best game for quite a long time in Villa colours.
Wish we had Saint-Maximin, he is a player that makes things happen
except a goal today?
Wesley came on for 6 minutes and looked over weight and totally disinterested ...
Actually, he put himself about quite energetically, I thought. He may not survive at Villa but I think he deserves a chance to get back to full fitness and capability.
The Saint-Maximin line is particularly strange, I'm waiting to find out which pocket he ended up in because our back 4 all dominated him and he did absolutely fuck all. Add to that he's best on the right where we already have Buendia and Traore (and Bailey) and he'd be about the worst use for £40-50m I can imagine.
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Off the mark - plus this 300m we keep on being reminded about - 100m of it wasn’t playing. Plus joe went which means ithat team today cost us less than 10m a player. Which in today’s mental world isn’t a lot:
So when that other 100m is back we’ll be 33% better (or maybe 50%)
Thems the maths!!
UTV!!
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The Saint-Maximin line is particularly strange, I'm waiting to find out which pocket he ended up in because our back 4 all dominated him and he did absolutely fuck all. Add to that he's best on the right where we already have Buendia and Traore (and Bailey) and he'd be about the worst use for £40-50m I can imagine.
I like him usually, but today was the worst I've seen him play. He was pretty anonymous. He looks to have bulked up a bit, wonder if that's affecting him? Agreed, he'd be a bit of a pointless signing now. That sort of money on a DM would get us flying.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
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Brilliant to be back today, Matt Targett may struggle to get back into the team as Ash played well. Brilliant finish from Ings, Mings was a rock and after a shaky start Jacob Ramsey grew into the game more and more with some surging runs.
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What a strange game!
Villa scored two goals and the Newcastle keeper never had to make a save, our shooting was abysmal!
Ramsey started like a 'rabbit caught in the headlights' absolutely all over the place for about 10 - 15 minutes, then he got better and better as the game progressed, really pleased that he stayed on till the end as that game will do him the power of good.
Buendia is still not fit (or perhaps carrying an injury) and it is blatantly obvious as he is not involved enough and trying to coast through the game!
Ashley Young is class and his experience is invaluable, don't know how Targett will get his place back.
Cash was much improved and great to see.
Luiz started very well but certainly tired in the second half.
El Ghazi was immense for the penalty, besides the absurd long wait for the decision, the Newcastle players were all having a go at him especially the keeper, under the circumstances it was a brilliant penalty, ice cool for the ice man!
Mings was Mings, solid!
Konsa still needs to up his game especially for better teams than Newcastle.
Ings had little service as our midfileld (should be Buendia but he went awol) still can't play the ball early enough for Ing's runs off the defenders shoulder. His goal was absolutely brilliant, initially the scoreboard came up with Buendia as the scorer but I knew that was wrong immediately as only one Villa player could have scored that goal and he was Ings! Class finisher!
McGinn works his socks off but I am beginning to wonder if it is totally constructive as he doesn't seem to work WITH our midfield.
Overall a win but hardly convincing, still when we do eventually get all our players fit we can make a proper judgement.
A couple of points:
Wish we had Saint-Maximin, he is a player that makes things happen, always a constant danger as he has pace and the ability to beat a player, priceless qualities.
Wesley came on for 6 minutes and looked over weight and totally disinterested, hendiaope I don't have to see him again!
it always genuinely amazes me how two people can watch the same game and have completely different views about almost all of it. I suspect it suggests neither of us know what we're on about !!
Buendia I thought looked promising , I didn't see him coasting - rather he was tracking back pretty well
Luiz I thought was sloppy on the ball, lots of misplaced passes and gave the ball away a lot, and an unnecessary booking put him under pressure for the second half.We looked better with him in the side but I hope we see better from him
McGinn had his best game for ages and was hugely influential , MOM for me
Sant Maximin we dealt with fairly comfortably I thought
Wesley - disagree, I thought he looked more athletic and I think disinterested is really harsh
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Targett will have a big role to play he was exceptional last year.
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I thought Axel had put on quite a bit of bulk. Looked at lot stronger and more athletic than he did previously.
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My abiding memory of the game will be the promise shown by Ramsey. He is going to be a very good player.
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My abiding memory of the game will be the promise shown by Ramsey. He is going to be a very good player.
Yep first time he’s genuinely impressed me.
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Just home, a long day but enjoyed it.
M25 meant I missed the first 10 mins and had to leg it 2 miles to the ground.
We played better than them. Buendia hasn’t gelled yet. Mings is a leader. Bruceball football is Neanderthal. Newcastle as a club have few redeeming features. Their fans fighting near the end sums them up. Bring on Brentford.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
As long as we continue averaging a penalty a game I am more than happy to keep Anwar in and around the first team!
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
As long as we continue averaging a penalty a game
Manchester United have entered the chat....
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My abiding memory of the game will be the promise shown by Ramsey. He is going to be a very good player.
Yep first time he’s genuinely impressed me.
His best game for us.
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Luiz and Ramsey made all the difference (the latter having his best game yet) and the team was so much better balanced.
Far from a sparkling performance but a winning one.
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My abiding memory of the game will be the promise shown by Ramsey. He is going to be a very good player.
Yep first time he’s genuinely impressed me.
His best game for us.
There's been too many players of recent times of which you could say the same with a performance like he turned in today, but like brian says, with this lad you feel there's much, much more to come.
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My abiding memory of the game will be the promise shown by Ramsey. He is going to be a very good player.
Yep first time he’s genuinely impressed me.
His best game for us.
There's been too many players of recent times of which you could say the same with a performance like he turned in today, but like brian says, with this lad you feel there's much, much more to come.
After a few promising cameos I thought today was the day he really looked at home in the side.
Had a shaky start but thought he was excellent and got better and better as the game progressed.
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Steve Bruce @ Villa Park. 2021.
" We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Fucking hell man, that is golden. This bloke has made himself a millionaire from Football management.
I have heard some absolute bollox from Steve Bruce over the years but that quote has rendered me speechless.
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Nothing about penalties, though.
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A win was needed, and it is always pleasing to take three points against against Potato Head. Fantastic goal from Ings and a cool penalty from El Ghazi. Other than that...
That's the way I saw too. Ramsey's best start for us, he's a fine athlete. Young was very good until he tired. That aside it was very average. Badly missing Grealish let's be honest.
I think missing Watkins, Bailey, Traore, and Sanson might matter more than Jon G
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Ings is quality. Buendia was better this week. Ramsey is coming on very nicely. We could do with Bailey being back for his pace. We could do with Watkins being back for his work-rate. We still look like we could use an anchor-man type player.
ramsey MOTM for me
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Looks like Ollie, Bailey and co.will be back after the international break.
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They looked on it today. Sharper than Newcastle. Some of the passing was tremendous.
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I thought "VAR milord, VAR" was pretty funny.
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Like to see more of the kids get to play.
Loaning out Louie is wrong. He would be a great option to bring on to the left for the last 20 mins of matches. He is good enough.
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I don’t think it’s wrong. He’ll get more minutes being at Ipswich and that’s what he needs.
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The alternative is what wete doing with Carney, is it beneficial keeping him around the 1st team to get experience but giving him no minutes?
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Steve Bruce @ Villa Park. 2021.
" We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Fucking hell man, that is golden. This bloke has made himself a millionaire from Football management.
I have heard some absolute bollox from Steve Bruce over the years but that quote has rendered me speechless.
Newcastle fan joined us for lunch today and I was on train back up north post match and chatted to a couple more. They all absolutely hate Bruce.
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Danny Ings has dedicated his goal today to the man who invented the bicycle kick.
Our Saviour:
Herbert Douglas €££I$
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Danny on MOTD thinks that we don’t need specialist coaches for set pieces.
I am more inclined to back NSWE decisions than not.
Hopefully AV finish higher than 11.
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Danny Ings has dedicated his goal today to the man who invented the bicycle kick.
Our Saviour:
Herbert Douglas €££I$
Just for a moment I thought your keyboard function was playing up! ;)
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I think missing Watkins, Bailey, Traore, and Sanson might matter more than Jon G
Good point. There are some excellent players waiting to come into the team. You could add Targett to the list too when he gets fit.
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Like to see more of the kids get to play.
Loaning out Louie is wrong. He would be a great option to bring on to the left for the last 20 mins of matches. He is good enough.
Loaning out is the correct decision. Needs the experience of the lower leagues to learn his trade. Physically he isn’t ready for the prem. Grealish did the same at Notts County
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SJM was motm for me.
Mings scores bonus points for winding their mob up when jogging off the pitch after receiving treatment, with his beautiful big grin.
Biggest disappointment for me, was Matty Cash's bald patch. Where's that suddenly appeared from?! Sad times.
Ha ha, we noticed that. Egg in a nest, he won't be getting the "you're just a shit Jack Grealish chants" for much longer.
Chrissy Price , Chrissy Chrissy Price…
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
It's laziness,Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach,and ego,look I'm a great intelligent pundit,there's nothing I don't know about the game.
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I honestly dont give a fuck, if we can Stoke our way to a few wins that we drew/lost last season then ill throw some dollar bills in MacPhees G String.
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Danny Mills is an odd one and a terrible pundit.
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Danny Murphy on the concept of set piece coaches. Words fail me. And him, mind.
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
It's laziness,Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach,and ego,look I'm a great intelligent pundit,there's nothing I don't know about the game.
I’ve calmed down now, thanks Robleflaneur, Luke, Ian, Pauliewalnuts.
Still think Danny on MOTD is a total pundit.
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The alternative is what wete doing with Carney, is it beneficial keeping him around the 1st team to get experience but giving him no minutes?
Yes, absolutely it is.
It's a big big jump from what he is used to to the first team in the top flight.
Giving him a taster of what it is like is a good idea, and who knows, he might get on.
It has also only been 180 minutes of football.
The only circumstances i can see him getting on in the immediate future is an injury and he's the only face on the bench in the position to go on, or we're 5 up against someone and it's a no-cost opportunity.
Till then, keep him around the squad.
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
It's laziness,Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach,and ego,look I'm a great intelligent pundit,there's nothing I don't know about the game.
I’ve calmed down now, thanks Robleflaneur, Luke, Ian, Pauliewalnuts.
Still think Danny on MOTD is a total pundit.
I knew a girl who dated him for a short while. She was a bit, er, hard of thinking. Surprised it didn’t last really
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Steve Bruce @ Villa Park. 2021.
" We trained all week in dry conditions and today at Villa Park the rain was very wet which we didnt prepare for"
Fucking hell man, that is golden. This bloke has made himself a millionaire from Football management.
I have heard some absolute bollox from Steve Bruce over the years but that quote has rendered me speechless.
I genuinely still don't know if you are all pulling my leg?
Edit: Just been on twitter... HAHAHAHAHAHA. This bloke is fucking gold. I just thought it was some half believable made up quote bollocks. What a man.
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As poor as they were when they went two down they did make a couple of opportunities that a better team would have made more of. Very worries at the start of the gam as i thought we looked weak, very happy that Newcastle were their usual selves with a crap manager.
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Big thing for me today was we just looked a lot sharper through the middle. I’ve just watched Villa Tour. Ground seemed rocking compared to what it seemed like watching the match. Fair play to everyone that got there. We definitely need a bigger ground
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I can't understand how 2 people have given Mings a 6, that's ridiculous, got an assist, won a penalty (which was 100% a goal without the handball) and limited them to 1 shot on target all game and had Wilson riled up and looking like a knob all game. If anything he was ramseys biggest competition for motm.
I'd probably have given him a 7 if it wasn't for that ricket first half, which against most other teams would have led to us being a goal down.
That was a foul for me, Wilson just ran into him and gave him a 2 handed shove when he was easily cutting it out otherwise. That was a big part of the piss poor start from the referee.
You are right. What upset me more was that Mings stopped playing and instead stood waving at the referee*. I don't like that at the best of times but especially now when we all know the referees have been asked to let play flow.
Mings had a second brain-freeze in the first with that misjudged clearing across the penalty box. He was back to his best in the second half, thankfully, with a thoroughly commanding performance.
* We do quite a lot of that as a team and it started last year. I'm not in favour.
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I don’t think it’s wrong. He’ll get more minutes being at Ipswich and that’s what he needs.
My son and I went to the Ipswich game today to take a look at Barry, but he didn't get on. I thought he might when Dons equalised but Town chose another youngster who had zero impact. Am sure Barry will get his chance but the general feeling from Town fans was he was a bit small.
Actually enjoyed the day out though and the real ale bar in the West Stand certainly helped!
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
Are you actually denying that Ings scored a penalty for Aston Villa last week to make AEG sound irreplaceable?
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If they keep him Bruce will take them down. St Maximum is all fart and no shit.
Martinez - had nothing to do but made a huge judgement error for the pen that never was.
Cash - offers cash great offensive weapon with throw and defended very well
Konsa - Glided through the game
Mings - was poor for the Wilson chance but made amends with a good display and clean sheet.
Young - lots of experience and shackled Saint Max very well
Luiz - looked assured until tiring
Mcginn- was buzzing around as usual
El ghazi- cool as hell for pen but not a lot else
Ramsey- MOTM grew into the game and looked the part
Buendia - Was impressed with his work rate in the press and he created several turnovers. I'm sure he will be brilliant going forward.
Ings - almost like El Ghazi and pens. Did not do a fat lot but came alive in the box with a tremendous goal. Top finisher who now has 2 in 2
Overall Good win against a poor side which you will take every time. With some exceptional talent to come back in things again look promising
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
It's laziness,Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach,and ego,look I'm a great intelligent pundit,there's nothing I don't know about the game.
I’ve calmed down now, thanks Robleflaneur, Luke, Ian, Pauliewalnuts.
Still think Danny on MOTD is a total pundit.
I knew a girl who dated him for a short while. She was a bit, er, hard of thinking. Surprised it didn’t last really
Jenas and Murphy the MOTD double act.
Whose idea was it to put those two clowns together?
One at a time is bad enough.
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I felt we were very ponderous first half. Didn't seem to have much of a clue as to how to break them down and we didn't look like or create very much.
Felt we were more menacing second half, certainly moved it quicker. As others have said, Ramsey and his performance was the most encouraging.
Wonderful goal, we appealed for handball in the Holte, felt it was obvious, so not sure what wor Excuse was on about. Got lucky with their penalty with Wilson being offside, but again it was the right decision.
We were without Watkins, Bailey, Traore and Sanson who would all have potentially improved the side that did play yesterday. Think the midfield still needs to shield and protect the ball better than it does.
That said, despite Dougie giving the ball away in daft positions a few times, for me, even at 6/10 he is still streets ahead of Nkamba.
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Enjoyed that yesterday. Missed the Ings goal as I'd misjudged my prematch pint and had to dash for a piss! :(
Thought they grew into the game after the first thirty mins. Don't think Buendia is a winger personally - Lost count how many times Cash was looking for some support down the right and he was knowhere to be seen. I'd have Buendia in as a #10, finding space behind the strikers and threading balls through to Watkins and Ings. Guess there's nobody else to put there until we get our injured players back - Hopefully Traore and Bailey.
Joint MotM for me would be John McGinn and Matty Cash - These two played consistently for the full 90 - McGinn especially seems back to his energetic self (decent passing yesterday too).
And how good was it to be back at a FULL Villa Park with a win and a clean sheet. Needed that! UTV
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Was nice to wake up in the warm glow of a Villa win today. Changes the whole weekend.
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From a Newcastle forum, I thought it was pretty funny:
Villa’s right back is wearing an Alice band in an attempt to keep his extra long comb back in place to disguise the biggest baboon’s arse I’ve seen in a long time...
Ings is working on one too. Cash is the bloke you're referring to, the wet weather doing nothing for his cut-price Grealish costume. Wasted a whole bunch of time earlier for a slightly twisted ankle, which I suppose is quite Grealishy.
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If anybody else had scored that goal today in that spectacular and inspirational way, do we think that Danny on MOTD would have mentioned set piece coaches?
I think he’s an embittered anti Villa.... pundit.
It's laziness,Liverpool have a specialist throw in coach,and ego,look I'm a great intelligent pundit,there's nothing I don't know about the game.
So Danny how did Jason Kenny win so many Olympic golds?
'Well he got on his bike and cycled fast'
I’ve calmed down now, thanks Robleflaneur, Luke, Ian, Pauliewalnuts.
Still think Danny on MOTD is a total pundit.
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during the warm up I actually thought Grealish had come back and had to double check - it was Cash has chanelling his inner Jack.
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Decent result given the team. Hopefully that should settle some post-ratboy nerves. God bless you Mr B. I hope you manage in the premiership forever.
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wet rain - who would of thought it!
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wet rain - who would of thought it!
It is a new phenomenon which clearly doesn't occur in Newcastle
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The biggest plus was Ramsey's performance, his best so far in a Villa shirt, great to hear the Holte End singing his name.
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Basically what Dean Smith said . An ok performance with a good result
Goalkeeper poor for the yellow card
Ings brilliant goal
Set piece worked a treat
Mings causing a real threat in opposition box
Young comfortable at left back
AEG for the penalty
Martinez 6.5
Cash 7
Konsa 7
Mings 7.5
Young 7
McGinn 7.5
Luiz 7
AeG 7.5
Buendia 6.5
Ramsey 7
Ings 7.5
Subs. Not graded.
Would have liked to see some of the subs on sooner
Bidace- a short little appearance of mins
Wesley - made some nice flick ons seemed to be winning headers.
Tuanzebe- nice to have him back but little time on
Ref. Coote Letting far too many fouls go but ultimately became an important player for us second half!
Dean Smith - 7 as we won but he was honest enough in and knows we are better than that.
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during the warm up I actually thought Grealish had come back and had to double check - it was Cash has chanelling his inner Jack.
The giveaway was the bald spot.
Suggest an early grade 2 all over.
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Nice to be back at Villa Park
Felt a little anxious heading to the ground with so many people and a couple of Beers settled the nerves a little bit.
Holte End lower was very crowded at Half Time and virtually impossible to get any refreshments, I think this is down to the Holte Suite being closed for the Vaccinations.
Good win but improvements needed if we want to progress. Buendia seemed really slow , one moment just gave up running and held his arms in the air,very odd.
Superb Goal from Ings and Nice to see something that has obviously been worked on in Training
Terrible choice of colours for the Coaching staff jackets
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Danny Ings has had a tough paper round as well. He's 29, but looks at least 39.
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Good to be back. Started slowly I thought and in particular Ramsey, but he improved as the game went on and I was very impressed with him.
Cash also impressed me in the second half. Excellent goal by Ings and well taken penalty by AEG.
Newcastle were awful and I really cannot see Bruce being there come the end of the season.
All in all decent enough performance considering we have a number of players to come back in. Looking forward to Brentford now.
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Not amazing first half but brilliant finish from Ings. Second half we were well on top. Definite penalty. We were maybe a bit lucky with their non-penalty as I thought they were supposed to let very marginal calls go, now? That said, they should already have been down to ten men by then if the referee had booked their player for the most blatant dive of all time earlier, so I don't think they have much to complain about. Well, other than their team, their manager and their owner.
Thought Cash played well, Buendia looked much better than against Watford but tired. I think he will be brilliant when fully match fit. Ramsey man of the match, IMO.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
Are you actually denying that Ings scored a penalty for Aston Villa last week to make AEG sound irreplaceable?
No, just wondering why he’s been marked for moving on when he is a player who knocks em in! Can’t we have more than one?!
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Great win and great day out it was brilliant to be back at Villa Park after the lockdowns we have had.
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Just a word about AEG; who else can take penalties? ....
Nobody’s fighting him for it!
Ings took one and scored only last week. His career record is 10 taken, 3 missed. AEG has taken 5 missed 0.
Since we can't wheel on AEG just for pens like they do in American football, I'd rather have a player who contributes more over 90 minutes.
He scores goals from open play.
And pens.
And nobody else does the latter.
Until we have someone else who does that, we keep him.
Are you actually denying that Ings scored a penalty for Aston Villa last week to make AEG sound irreplaceable?
No, just wondering why he’s been marked for moving on when he is a player who knocks em in! Can’t we have more than one?!
OK. No worries. I've marked him for moving on because he is not good enough at this level, in my own mind. Obviously, opinions will differ.
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during the warm up I actually thought Grealish had come back and had to double check - it was Cash has chanelling his inner Jack.
The giveaway was the bald spot.
Suggest an early grade 2 all over.
Nah, those days are gone. Quick trip to the hair transplant clinic during an international break these days.
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I was thinking the same but it was the first time I've really noticed it.
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Ramsey played the role of continuity player really well: pass and move; keep passing and moving. But he also drove into empty space well in the second half, providing the Jawdie midfield more problems.
Buendia will probably take a couple more games to get properly 'with it' but I liked the way he supported Cash so well and also looked for the ball a lot (not just sitting out wide waiting for it. I agree with an earlier comment that he looks more like a #10. I'm guessing / hoping that's where he'll be when Watkins and Bailey return.
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Tangental but I thought Targett lookedlike the incredible bulk yesterday. Lots of excess baggage.
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Shame we didn’t get him but, fair play to Ward Prowse for staying loyal to his club rather than someone else, who’s name I’ve now forgotten, going to Oil City!!
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Anyone else see the Newcastle fan throwing up over the barrier?
I've not been to an away game, but don't see the appeal of getting absolutely hammered so you can't even watch or enjoy the game you've spent a fortune to travel and see. Same for the people leaving 15 minutes before HT so they can get a shitty pint, then again 15 mins before FT so they can be first in the pub.
You've waited God knows how many days to be back in VP, then leave early at HT and miss the first goal and celebrations.
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Talking about Cash's emerging skull he become very conscientious of it himself after watching his attempt at goal on the big screen. Periodically kept adjusting his hair to ensure a decent level of coverage for the rest of the match.
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Anyone else see the Newcastle fan throwing up over the barrier?
I've not been to an away game, but don't see the appeal of getting absolutely hammered so you can't even watch or enjoy the game you've spent a fortune to travel and see. Same for the people leaving 15 minutes before HT so they can get a shitty pint, then again 15 mins before FT so they can be first in the pub.
You've waited God knows how many days to be back in VP, then leave early at HT and miss the first goal and celebrations.
You should’ve been at Watford last week. About 50 Villa left the stadium at half time (the bloke next to me on the concourse was counting them as they left) which was bizarre, despite the shite first half.
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Talking about Cash's emerging skull he become very conscientious of it himself after watching his attempt at goal on the big screen. Periodically kept adjusting his hair to ensure a decent level of coverage for the rest of the match.
It's a proper baboon's arse. Expect a visit to the same clinic as Mark Clattenburg in the not too distant future.
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Shame we didn’t get him but, fair play to Ward Prowse for staying loyal to his club rather than someone else, who’s name I’ve now forgotten, going to Oil City!!
Bit like our Jack signing a 5 yr contract 12 months ago.
Oh hang on
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Who???
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Shame we didn’t get him but, fair play to Ward Prowse for staying loyal to his club rather than someone else, who’s name I’ve now forgotten, going to Oil City!!
Bit like that twat signing a 5 yr contract 12 months ago.
Oh hang on
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Who???
Jack. Isn't he one of the lads who work in the club shop, or am I thinking of someone else?
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Why does this thread get booted-off the main forum so quickly? No one really goes into Match Thread & Player Ratings...
Anyway, haven't seen anyone mention it but was there a special tannoy announcement for the returning Ashley Young or any crowd/Ashley love-reciprocation etc. ?
It's been 10 years, let's show some emotion...
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Nothing special. Just a little nod as team was being announced and there was no crowd love in either.
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Ramsey played the role of continuity player really well: pass and move; keep passing and moving. But he also drove into empty space well in the second half, providing the Jawdie midfield more problems.
Buendia will probably take a couple more games to get properly 'with it' but I liked the way he supported Cash so well and also looked for the ball a lot (not just sitting out wide waiting for it. I agree with an earlier comment that he looks more like a #10. I'm guessing / hoping that's where he'll be when Watkins and Bailey return.
This.
Spot on.
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Poor game with 2 very average teams, the highlight was the Ings goal but apart from that and the Penalty, I don,t think we had many other shots on target
We will do well to finish higher than 11th this season based on our 2 performances so far this season
Newcastle will do well to avoid relegation
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Howay lads, take him back. It's not funny any more. Bruce even sounds like a name that should be said in a West Midlands accent, not a Geordie one.
No surprise he's trying to misdirect and moan about decisions, but we weren't good enough. Could it have been a penalty? Yeah, maybe, the offside was marginal I guess. Was it a handball? Yes, maybe, I dunno any more.
But none of that matters because we just weren't good enough. Not a single shot on target. We looked knackered after about 15 minutes.
Still, there's 108pts to play for and we'll only need about 40. Norwich look like they're just happy to be here, so there's one spot. After that it'll be 2 from Burnley, Brighton, Palace, Southampton, Watford, Wolves (maybe?) and Newcastle.
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Why does this thread get booted-off the main forum so quickly? No one really goes into Match Thread & Player Ratings...
Anyway, haven't seen anyone mention it but was there a special tannoy announcement for the returning Ashley Young or any crowd/Ashley love-reciprocation etc. ?
It's been 10 years, let's show some emotion...
Nothing special. Just a little nod as team was being announced and there was no crowd love in either.
It felt odd in a nice way encouraging Ashley to get the ball in. Like I'd gone back in time.
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Howay lads, take him back. It's not funny any more. Bruce even sounds like a name that should be said in a West Midlands accent, not a Geordie one.
No surprise he's trying to misdirect and moan about decisions, but we weren't good enough. Could it have been a penalty? Yeah, maybe, the offside was marginal I guess. Was it a handball? Yes, maybe, I dunno any more.
But none of that matters because we just weren't good enough. Not a single shot on target. We looked knackered after about 15 minutes.
Still, there's 108pts to play for and we'll only need about 40. Norwich look like they're just happy to be here, so there's one spot. After that it'll be 2 from Burnley, Brighton, Palace, Southampton, Watford, Wolves (maybe?) and Newcastle.
Hard to judge with Norwich given they have probably played the top two. Difficult for us to gauge at the moment who we will be competing with. Agreed that you look like you will struggle. We didn't play well at the weekend really but it was a relatively straightforward win.
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Why does this thread get booted-off the main forum so quickly? No one really goes into Match Thread & Player Ratings...
Anyway, haven't seen anyone mention it but was there a special tannoy announcement for the returning Ashley Young or any crowd/Ashley love-reciprocation etc. ?
It's been 10 years, let's show some emotion...
Nothing special. Just a little nod as team was being announced and there was no crowd love in either.
It felt odd in a nice way encouraging Ashley to get the ball in. Like I'd gone back in time.
Me and another bloke shouted "skin him Ash!" almost in unison at one point as he approached a defender on the edge of the penalty area.
After just two games he looks like a very astute signing and the love will come back but he did sign for Newton Heath so it will take time.
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Hard to judge with Norwich given they have probably played the top two. Difficult for us to gauge at the moment who we will be competing with. Agreed that you look like you will struggle. We didn't play well at the weekend really but it was a relatively straightforward win.
Aye, they've played the top two, but they've not really strengthened and their DoF says they're happy to be one of the top 24 teams. Seems like they're fairly content to Yo-Yo for the foreseeable.
I think we should be fine. We've good 'keepers, and decent attackers, the defenders are... adequate. The issue isn't with the first 11. It's the manager and the lack of depth.
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I would have thought that Chelsea are favourites to finish ahead of Liverpool and Citeh.
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Again, Ramsey's ability to transfer the ball quickly made a difference. Whenever we move the ball quickly, we play better and JJ makes this happen. His greater physical strength and willingness to take the ball on his left foot is also noted.
Lucky win, what with the wet rain and everything...