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Title: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
Never in doubt
Title: Burnley 1-2 Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 01, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
Happy New Year everyone. We got over the line in the end. Two bad injuries though
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 01, 2020, 02:28:25 PM
That's The Queen abdicating, then.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: TonyD on January 01, 2020, 02:28:55 PM
Well done Dean.  Credit where it’s due. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 02:29:09 PM
Fuck you 1936
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 02:29:13 PM
Purslow on the pitch at the end telling Dean 'fantastic'. Clearly Dean aint going anywhere.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: phantom limb on January 01, 2020, 02:29:23 PM
Never saw that coming, excellent performance and I hope the two injuries aren’t as serious as they looked
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on January 01, 2020, 02:29:30 PM
Professional performance
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: stevo_st on January 01, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
Tense way to start the new year. Hopefully Wes and Heaton injures not too bad.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: andyh on January 01, 2020, 02:29:42 PM
We won.
Right now that is ALL that matters
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: German James on January 01, 2020, 02:29:51 PM
A massive improvement - Wesley especially. We've missed Mings more than I even thought.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan For Life on January 01, 2020, 02:30:04 PM
And breathe. I hope the latest injuries aren’t as bad as we fear.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 01, 2020, 02:30:16 PM
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!

Absolutely massive.

Well done Villa. Well done Dean for changing things.

Happy New Year to the Villa family.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 01, 2020, 02:30:17 PM
Nine points off the European places.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 01, 2020, 02:30:25 PM
1 down, 5 more wins to go.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SaddVillan on January 01, 2020, 02:30:42 PM
After that nerve jangler, there's only one thing to do now.
As Father Jack said:

"Feck, drink!!!!"
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 01, 2020, 02:30:43 PM
Get in.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 01, 2020, 02:30:52 PM
We have shown that we can battle.  Really important in a scrap and we need to not allow it to drop now.  Two injuries to cope with, plus SJM's.  Might need several players and to keep hold of Kalinic for the rest of the season. Well done Dean and the players.  Great win.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on January 01, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
Tough to judge on the 29 minutes Kodjia was on the pitch for, but maybe we see why Wesley has played every game so far.

Great first half, gritty second, nerve-wracking towards the end.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: purpletrousers on January 01, 2020, 02:31:44 PM
Purslow on the pitch at the end telling Dean 'fantastic'. Clearly Dean aint going anywhere.

Yep very very noticeable. Invested in Dean, emotional, feeling vindicated.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 01, 2020, 02:32:00 PM
Six points from the 12 probably 3 less than we needed but that win is massive.  Could be a season changer.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: CT on January 01, 2020, 02:32:09 PM
Looking forward to Flinstone coming on and giving Dean some credit for changing the system and winning away against a tough side.

Marred by the two injuries though. Eleven days to get a striker in before Man City now. Heaton looked bad. I reckon he'll be out for the season.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: DB on January 01, 2020, 02:32:15 PM
Well done Dean.  Credit where it’s due. 

Indeed. Great start to the new year.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 01, 2020, 02:32:21 PM
Get in brilliant win. Hopefully the cost on Wes and Heaton won’t be too great.

Well done Dean.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on January 01, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
Gritted it out when needed.Mings immense.
Kodja boils my piss though.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 01, 2020, 02:32:33 PM
My fucking nerves! Great first half, not so much second half. Batter Man City next and things will look so much better. Hope Wesley isn’t badly hurt.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BoVillan esq on January 01, 2020, 02:32:41 PM
Very good win, we can build on that first 45, well deserved 3 points overall but a costly one, have we lost Heaton and Wes, we need to get into the transfer market quickly.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on January 01, 2020, 02:32:42 PM
Interesting to see Purslow on the field congratulating the staff. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 01, 2020, 02:33:11 PM
Finally changed formation and we saw MUCH better performances All over. Defence tighter, best performance by Douglas Luiz in a villa shirt (far too good to be tagged as just a defensive midfielder as he offers more going forward), Wes played well (and better than his replacement who we’ve all been crying out for!) and the shackles finally taken off Jack.

Need to keep the performances up now and push on. Injuries marred a very good result.

Well done Dean and team. UTV
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 01, 2020, 02:33:23 PM
Brilliant win lads. Massive result for the team and for Deano and let’s hope the injuries aren’t as bad as they look.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ian on January 01, 2020, 02:33:27 PM
Massive  massive massive 3 points.  Well done dean on the formation.    We now really need to buy another striker. Lets go get our target quickly.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Five Villa Tattoos on January 01, 2020, 02:33:32 PM
Huge win.
Big Tyrone controlled our back line superbly, so good to see him back.
We showed more passion and desire today across the team as well.
Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ian on January 01, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
Massive  massive massive 3 points.  Well done dean on the formation.    We now really need to buy another striker. Lets go get our target quickly.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 01, 2020, 02:33:54 PM
No better way to start the New Year with Villa getting 3 points, well done DS on the team selection and getting a performance from the players.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Richie on January 01, 2020, 02:34:00 PM
Praise the Lord ! That last 20 minutes seemed to go on forever. First half we were top drawer. Second half was far from pretty but we showed the grit and determination that was so lacking on Saturday.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on January 01, 2020, 02:34:10 PM
At last! Hope the injuries aren't too bad, though.

Shows how much we've missed Tyrone.

Happy New Year, everyone!

BTW Fcuk VAR.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 01, 2020, 02:34:50 PM
Can’t see Luis playing for Man City again. He played well but that attempted easy lob was unbelievably bad and could have cost us. And, for those asking for Kodja instead of Wes. I think we have seen why that isn’t an option.
Mings was immense as were all the defence.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Drummond on January 01, 2020, 02:35:23 PM
Thank fuck. That last 10 minutes!

Really good to see everyone chasing everything playing the way we saw last season. Pleased with the formation change.

Wes and Heaton could be a big loss.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on January 01, 2020, 02:35:44 PM
That's a huge result. Hopefully Dean sticks with that formation, at least in away games.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on January 01, 2020, 02:35:50 PM
Massive 3 points, wow. Well done to all. We are fighting hard.

But why the f**k are we always so cursed by injuries? And always our most important players?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 01, 2020, 02:36:25 PM
It may have come at a cost but that's three massive points, a much better display and Smith showing some flexibility.  Burnley are so shite it's untrue.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on January 01, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
Shocked but fuckin happy. Happy 2020.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 01, 2020, 02:37:49 PM
Small Heath losing today would just cap it all off. Fuck VAR but I love football again today.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: john e on January 01, 2020, 02:37:57 PM
great win but what the fuck does Smith say  to them at half time apart from giving them bromide laced drinks

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: CJ on January 01, 2020, 02:38:09 PM
Change of system worked well, stopped us getting overrun in midfield. But more than a change of system I think the most noticeable thing was a change of attitude. Much better. Under the cosh second half and did well to see the game out. Desperately needed 3 points
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 01, 2020, 02:38:35 PM
You're a bit obsessed with those twats. The Southampton and Norwich results are much more important to us.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on January 01, 2020, 02:38:40 PM
Three enormous points. Can’t keep letting teams have 20 attempts on goal though.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on January 01, 2020, 02:38:44 PM
Great stuff Villa, just shows how much we've missed Tyrone, hope Wes is ok.

UP THE VILLA
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: OzVilla on January 01, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
Won it in the 1st half as for all their huff and puff Burnley didn’t massively threaten. Those of us that wanted a change in formation obviously know a bit too.

Wes has a good game as did Jack but what a difference to have Mings back. UTV.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: supertom on January 01, 2020, 02:39:27 PM
Credit where it's due, Dean identified (okay, slower than he should) that we were struggling to defend in the 4-3-3 system. A 3rd CH just allowed someone to plug gaps that would previously have been left.
Good first half. We disappointingly retreated in the second, inviting pressure.
Mings was a welcome return. I know he's had a few moments but at the same time, he's just one of those defenders that seems to be magnatised to the ball. Like that cross toward the end. Mings was in there like a flash to cut it out. Laursen-esque.
Hause also looks good. Konsa seems to benefit from the extra support.
Grealish was excellent. Wesley much improved.
Also I have to give Nyland a great deal of credit because given the fact it looked like he'd never play for us again, he's come on in very difficult circumstances in a couple of games and done very well and looked as composed as you'd expect an international keeper of a reasonable side to look. Excellent take at the end. It's unfortunate for Steer, but Nyland is well worth keeping his spot on the bench now.

To me that does show hope. It means, almost by force too that we're probably going to buy another striker. We need more competition. Kodjia just doesn't appear to fit in Deans way of playing, so lets sell him while we can, bring in a new main man. We need someone inspiring. We need a Bent kind of signing.

Smith has saved his job today I think. The next couple of league games we really need to keep progressing.
I'd also be inclined to send out the stiffs and youngsters in the Fulham game. Focus on the league and the league cup. A lot of the first teamers were exhausted in that second half. Very leggy. Players need a rest. I hate saying it as it's the FA Cup, but it's almost a game we could do without.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 02:39:42 PM
The formation change AND Mings coming back helped with the win. However 2nd half showed already how easy it can be countered by Dyche, so better managers and players who can convert chances will go right through us. If Smith had made obvious changes in the second half to counter them as well I would say he is learning.

Still at least the players were up for it as well. Mings influence in the dressing room maybe?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2020, 02:39:53 PM
Well done Dean.  Credit where it’s due. 

Yep! I don't think he's the man for us but happy for him to shove my doubts down my big yap.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: andyh on January 01, 2020, 02:39:55 PM
I have advocated Kodjia getting game time, over the last few weeks.

I won’t be doing that again.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: David_Nab on January 01, 2020, 02:40:01 PM
Kodjia was so bad that last 20 mins and Houriane not much better , thank god Burnley was so toothless

Mings helped being back but also just having the extra cb there to tidy up was the big factor.I also think we played very simple % defending often getting it out for a throw rather than trying to play the ball out.

Wes was good and held ball up well as well as defending from corners well , Kodjia as I said was useless mostly when he came on.Didn't link play and the one half chance he had should of been a square ball to Luiz not a scruffed attempt on his weaker foot...

Finally fuck VAR
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on January 01, 2020, 02:40:07 PM
The critical thing for me was that we remain in contention by the time the transfer window came around. 6 wins by 1 January isn't bad - shame we didn't draw 2-3 games we should have at the start of the season.

If we can get in 3 good reinforcements now we have a great chance of picking up the 16-17 points we need?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: bilsim on January 01, 2020, 02:40:08 PM
Massive improvement. Mings being back seemed to make a huge difference. Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 01, 2020, 02:40:19 PM
Fantastic win.

Happy New Year all
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 01, 2020, 02:40:32 PM
First! Happy new year - had 4 hours sleep after last night - partying in Brazil. What a great start to the new year. MOTM Nyland for that catch. (Joking).
What a player Jack is - he is fucking Barca material.

Off to the beach!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 02:41:49 PM
best display of season by a distance. real test of character at the end but deservedly held out. such a contrast in terms of attitude from the players, really up for the battle today. change of formation obviously helped, we didnt carry anyone without the ball and extra physicality with Hause helped.

Grealish was a joy to watch.

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Diablo on January 01, 2020, 02:42:45 PM
Injuries a side a great start to 2020. Happy New Year to all!!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 01, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
Wesleys best game, typically he then gets injured.

Kodjia was naff when he came on.

New formation worked well 1st half and we withstood a barrage of crosses in the 2nd.

Fucking needed that!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dicedlam on January 01, 2020, 02:43:11 PM
Much better and much needed. The defensive three at the back work well together with Mings being in the middle.
Need to invest in a striker tho, maybe even two.

Well Done to Dean and the coaching team getting the players up for this one.

Happy New Year to all H&V'ers!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy65 on January 01, 2020, 02:43:19 PM
I have advocated Kodjia getting game time, over the last few weeks.

I won’t be doing that again.

We have all fallen for his absence making him better than he is.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 01, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
Thank fuck for that. Cracking win!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy65 on January 01, 2020, 02:44:25 PM
Jack was brilliant today. And I also noticed his chasing down in the last 10 of the Burnley defence when they had the ball. Superb
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RichardBatchelor on January 01, 2020, 02:44:51 PM
First half great football, second half gutsy.

Doug’s failed chip of the keeper meant we were put through the mill as usual, but that’s the ref’s fault with the feckin ludicrous disallowed goal as 3 up would have been comfortable. Jack’s header was straight out the Alan Shearer handbook, bloody ace and he’s been unfairly denied it. Burnley played well in the second but nowhere near as well as we did in the first. Roll on 5-3-2.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on January 01, 2020, 02:45:48 PM
Well done Dean & co. Proper performance when it was needed. Looks like he's saved his job for now, and honestly despite my doubts I couldn't be happier at this exact moment as it means we won. I'll take that all day long, more points please.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: KRS on January 01, 2020, 02:46:55 PM
Thank fuck for that and 3 points on the board.

A much improved performance all over the pitch, management team making the correct decisions, and Tyrone being vocal leading the team from the back.

Concerns about Wes and Toms injuries, so hope they won’t be out for too long. Nyland looks like he has improved significantly so can fill in if needed, but this enforces the urgent requirement to sign another striker as JK simply isn’t fit for purpose in this team.

Happy New Year Villa! 😊👍
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: not3bad on January 01, 2020, 02:46:57 PM
Purslow on the pitch at the end telling Dean 'fantastic'. Clearly Dean aint going anywhere.

Yep very very noticeable. Invested in Dean, emotional, feeling vindicated.

I think that's how we should all feel but there you go.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 01, 2020, 02:47:19 PM
Great 1st half, nervy 2nd.



Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Monty on January 01, 2020, 02:47:31 PM
If someone who'd never seen us play had read the comments on this board (mine very definitely included) and then watched that match they would assume they'd got the wrong Aston Villa. Deano changed tactics and it worked really well, Wesley was excellent and Kodjia extremely not, we conceded late but hung on doggedly to win instead of capitulating. Everything that was the case was inverted today. Long may it last!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 01, 2020, 02:47:53 PM
Three enormous points. Can’t keep letting teams have 20 attempts on goal though.
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Three enormous points. Can’t keep letting teams have 20 attempts on goal though.
Of course the counter argument is that we must have limited them to some pretty desperate attempts if only one was on target.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on January 01, 2020, 02:47:56 PM
I have advocated Kodjia getting game time, over the last few weeks.

I won’t be doing that again.

We have all fallen for his absence making him better than he is.

The term "flat track bully" comes to mind with Kodjia I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AVH87 on January 01, 2020, 02:49:04 PM
Massive win, system change from Smith seems to have worked a treat. Concern over Heaton and Wesley, we knew we needed a striker anyway but now with Steer also out long term could be relying on Nyland.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 01, 2020, 02:49:55 PM
Huge victory! Well done Villa boys and Deano. Hopefully we've used up all our bad luck in one game with var and injuries.
A great way to start the new year! UTV!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 01, 2020, 02:50:22 PM
I thought that Mee was a dirty git.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on January 01, 2020, 02:50:48 PM
Ooh I have a good feeling about the 2020s! 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on January 01, 2020, 02:51:01 PM
I was shaking at the end of that. Good result, well done. Nice to see Purslow on the pitch, shows solidarity through the club.
I like 2020 so far!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: vilan461 on January 01, 2020, 02:52:52 PM
A very much needed 3 points-----just hope the injury,s to Wesley and Heaton are,nt too serious, in that respect its probably a good thing that there,s no league game at the weekend,

well done alll,
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aev on January 01, 2020, 02:53:16 PM
I had to go for a walk from 70 mins onwards.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 02:53:39 PM
I thought that Mee was a dirty git.

bad tackle I thought, ball first but certainly man second.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 01, 2020, 02:53:49 PM
Undefeated in 2020......first team to win in this decade!
Injuries are a worry.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: supertom on January 01, 2020, 02:54:06 PM
I have advocated Kodjia getting game time, over the last few weeks.

I won’t be doing that again.

We have all fallen for his absence making him better than he is.

The term "flat track bully" comes to mind with Kodjia I'm afraid.
I don't think the calls for Kodjia in the last few weeks were so much about thinking he was a difference maker. It's only the fact he's the only other option and Wesley was looking that poor, that even wheeling Heskey out of retirement would have been preferable.

But...fair play, Big Wes played well today. No co-incidence that the system appeared to help that too and goals make all the difference.

But yeah, his injury almost puts a rocket up our backsides in the transfer window because it's clear since Deano took over that short of no option, Kodjia doesn't fit his system (we should sell King Kodj while we can). We need another option, because also, Wesley would actually have benefited from some time on the bench over December, for the poor fuckers sanity alone. I still think he could come good, that he has a future but he needs proper competition to improve him.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: JJ-AV on January 01, 2020, 02:56:58 PM
Great stuff. An enormous 3 points.

Credit to Smith, a bold call paid off.

That's the system for me now, still needs work but if we can upgrade 2/3 of Nakamba, Trez and Wes we'll stay up. Be great if we could get one of Bowen/Benrahma or Benteke/Batshuayi.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: SW9-VILLA on January 01, 2020, 02:59:22 PM
Nice to see Purslow on the pitch, shows solidarity through the club.

Wondered what he was doing on the pitch tbh. Thought it was quite strange? Who cares mind, 3 points.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 01, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
A much needed and well deserved three points especially after the VAR bollocks in the first half. The system seemed to suit  us and big Wes so it's typical that he's now got injured. Mings coming back in was a massive plus as well.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 01, 2020, 03:03:14 PM
Lovely. 3 points and out of the bottom three.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 03:05:12 PM
Great stuff. An enormous 3 points.

Credit to Smith, a bold call paid off.

That's the system for me now, still needs work but if we can upgrade 2/3 of Nakamba, Trez and Wes we'll stay up. Be great if we could get one of Bowen/Benrahma or Benteke/Batshuayi.

If, and it's a big if, AEG can improve his application without the ball, I think he could easily play up front in a two.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 03:05:16 PM
Great to be out of that bottom 3, let's keep it that way please.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Scovilla on January 01, 2020, 03:06:06 PM
Thank you Villa for these vital 3 points. Really relieved.
Hope the injuries are nt too serious.
Happy new year.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ads on January 01, 2020, 03:06:41 PM
An excellent performance and result.

The system made us look so much more solid out of possession. Admittedly Burnley are a long ball/percentage football side and unlikely to play between your lines, but we smothered them and denied them opportunities.

They matched us second and won a lot of corners, which was their aim, but we competed well.

I thought it took the wing backs a bit of time to get to grips, but that will come. I liked Jack and Trez narrower and they found a lot of space.

Two bad injuries, disgusting from the Burnley morons to boo Wesley off.

If anything typified today it was our second. Trezuguet competing hard for the ball, winning it and us breaking, Jack more central, Wesley more confident, just light years ahead of Saturday's dismal effort.

VAR is a joke. I dont see how Wesley is interfering and I dont spend 30 quid for somebody in a shed 100 miles away to decree our player is 0.5mm offside. I also thought there was a really obvious push on Mings for their goal.

Still, that is the sort of effort and quality needed to to stay up in this division.

I take full credit.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Stu on January 01, 2020, 03:09:19 PM
Is Jack the most fouled player in the Prem? Any stats on this?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: MalcolmP on January 01, 2020, 03:12:23 PM
I thought that Mee was a dirty git.
  Straight red,  scissored  Wesley, tackle even though got ball was out of control. Didn't see a VAR check for red card?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Moose on January 01, 2020, 03:14:59 PM
Fully agree, that was a bad tackle and not even a foul. VAR useless as usual.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AVH87 on January 01, 2020, 03:15:00 PM
I thought that Mee was a dirty git.
  Straight red,  scissored  Wesley, tackle even though got ball was out of control. Didn't see a VAR check for red card?

Was that the one that's potentially badly injured him as well? So gone unpunished really.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 01, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 01, 2020, 03:17:44 PM
Is Jack the most fouled player in the Prem? Any stats on this?
Yes that's a well known stat in itself.

He was excellent today. I've criticised Mings since he got picked for England, but having him back made a difference just by his physical presence, and the defenders generally did so much better.

I though Luiz was better, but not convinced with Marvelous and Trezeguet. They worked hard enough, but we'll need more quality to get out of trouble.

I didn't recognise us in the first half, as we were so much in control. Confidence will have been low, so the indifferent second half was explicable, but I think we let Burnley do their obvious and predictable first time crosses far too often for comfort.

I was watching Kodjia closely,  and he certainly looks like a player who's going to be leaving. Wesley had done well and used his physicality properly today so it was a shame about the injury.

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: supertom on January 01, 2020, 03:17:51 PM
Is Jack the most fouled player in the Prem? Any stats on this?
Last I heard, early December, he was. Doubt it's changed. He's canny and his low pads seem to act like a red rag to a bull.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 01, 2020, 03:18:10 PM
Jacks been involved in more goals (either scoring or setting up) than any other English midfielder this season, ahem Mr Southgate.

Great win, didn’t see it coming to be honest. Hope Smith sticks to the formation.

I said on a different thread, Smiths Purslows appointment, the owners wouldn’t of heard of him, so he’s obviously personally invested in Deano succeeding, just a show of solidarity I guess.

Let’s not all have a meltdown if we lose to Man City in a couple of weeks. 5 more wins is achievable.

Happy new year UTV
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 03:23:10 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: MalcolmP on January 01, 2020, 03:25:19 PM
A much needed and well deserved three points especially after the VAR bollocks in the first half. The system seemed to suit  us and big Wes so it's typical that he's now got injured. Mings coming back in was a massive plus as well.
Great stuff. An enormous 3 points.

Credit to Smith, a bold call paid off.

That's the system for me now, still needs work but if we can upgrade 2/3 of Nakamba, Trez and Wes we'll stay up. Be great if we could get one of Bowen/Benrahma or Benteke/Batshuayi.
Doh😁😁 Wes is better than both Benteke and Batshuayi and has a better goals per game ratio over last 3 years. He was very good today and we know why - he got some service and support. But the Wesley haters who called for Kodjia will not change their mind because they do not understand about football unlike me who has been a regular for 56 years and know a good player when I see one😎😎 I would love to have seen the comments about Wes had he done what Kodjia did with Trezeguet totally unmarked to his side. Kodjia showed today why he hasn't been picked.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 01, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Gerrin on January 01, 2020, 03:30:20 PM
Jack Grealish is without doubt the best Villa player I have watched in the last 45+ years. But, Tyrone Mings makes a huge difference to the team, he's seems to hold everything together.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 03:31:54 PM
Out on a nature ramble with the family and only just back, logged on and found our we'd won, couldn't believe it and I'm delighted.  A great start to the new year.  Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 03:32:05 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Nice work if you can get it.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brian green on January 01, 2020, 03:33:29 PM
Oddly I think Benteke would be a perfect fit for us.  He reads Jack so well.  I was never a fan of back heel passes until I saw those two play together.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 01, 2020, 03:35:42 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50908730

Utterly ludicrous.

To clarify the VAR decision photo.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 01, 2020, 03:36:01 PM
Not read through, has the kit been bigged up much?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 03:38:08 PM
Oddly I think Benteke would be a perfect fit for us.  He reads Jack so well.  I was never a fan of back heel passes until I saw those two play together.
Me too, imagine the lift it would give to the ground, invaluable. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 03:50:55 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50908730

Utterly ludicrous.

To clarify the VAR decision photo.

If they were consistent with timings on when VAR would not be used in a buildup to a goal, then I would be more accepting of the decision. LiVARpool have had fouls allowed in buildups to their goals because of it being outside an arbitrary time frame. Earlier in the season, VAR allowed a goal by Alli where there was a blatant push by Kane in the buildup at a similar timeframe that was ignored. So why go back that far to see a mm’s decision which is arbitrary this time?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: manic-road on January 01, 2020, 03:51:39 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood

A header from 2 yards out?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: curiousorange on January 01, 2020, 03:56:13 PM
Credit where it's due - needed a big team performance and that's what we saw.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on January 01, 2020, 03:59:01 PM
Not read through, has the kit been bigged up much?

From afar I really like the kit. Up close.. not so much, the red on green makes my eyes bug out.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: curiousorange on January 01, 2020, 04:00:11 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50908730

Utterly ludicrous.

To clarify the VAR decision photo.

If they were consistent with timings on when VAR would not be used in a buildup to a goal, then I would be more accepting of the decision. LiVARpool have had fouls allowed in buildups to their goals because of it being outside an arbitrary time frame. Earlier in the season, VAR allowed a goal by Alli where there was a blatant push by Kane in the buildup at a similar timeframe that was ignored. So why go back that far to see a mm’s decision which is arbitrary this time?

If they're going to use it to rule on the legality of goals, then all goals should be checked from at least the phase where the attacking team gained the ball. Even if it's a 35 yard pearler. It's ridiculous but people will be a lot less likely to be annoyed if there's consistency, as you suggest.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 04:01:39 PM
Not read through, has the kit been bigged up much?
I was confused, kept thinking we had the ball  :-[
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 01, 2020, 04:02:27 PM
Wesleys best game, typically he then gets injured.

Kodjia was naff when he came on.

New formation worked well 1st half and we withstood a barrage of crosses in the 2nd.

Fucking needed that!
Wesley seemed to have more support today. He struggles on his own as most strikers do.i thought Kodjia did okay. Can they not play together? Take a bit of strain off the overworked defence.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 01, 2020, 04:02:30 PM
Not read through, has the kit been bigged up much?
I was confused, kept thinking we had the ball  :-[

Yep, me too.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: AV82EC on January 01, 2020, 04:03:30 PM
Superb today, for all their pressing and possession second half they created pretty much fuck all and were shown up for the limited bunch of long ball merchants they are.

We were superb 1st half and but for FuckVAR 3-0 wouldn’t have flattered us. Second half we were a bit passive but our shape was superb and we severely limited their ability to get balls in the box.

All in all a good day out and our 84 year hoodoo is over.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on January 01, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50908730

Utterly ludicrous.

To clarify the VAR decision photo.
Nothing wrong with VAR. It's the offside rule that is rubbish. VAR is just interpreting the rules.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brian green on January 01, 2020, 04:07:39 PM
Just a dream I know but can you remember when Christian Benteke leaped so high that he had to head it DOWN to get under the crossbar?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 01, 2020, 04:08:26 PM
What happened in the second half in the way they were set up.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: amfy on January 01, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
Not read through, has the kit been bigged up much?
I was confused, kept thinking we had the ball  :-[

Yep, me too.

Glad it’s not just me. I think for teams that play in red or blue, they play an opposition in their colours fairly regularly and get used to it, but for me, the team in claret and blue is Villa, it doesn’t matter how far into the game it is, I keep having moments when I think they are us!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 04:10:50 PM
Oddly I think Benteke would be a perfect fit for us.  He reads Jack so well.  I was never a fan of back heel passes until I saw those two play together.
Me too, imagine the lift it would give to the ground, invaluable.

I would hope not for Benteke. He was engineering a move away as soon as he could and was convinced  to stay by us having to splash cash on a new contract which probably came from our limited transfer budget at the time. We then only had a 3rd season out of him because of his injury. Also since that, he has never really shown the form he had before then at his other teams so it might have affected him more, hence not the same player.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
Just a dream I know but can you remember when Christian Benteke leaped so high that he had to head it DOWN to get under the crossbar?

I remember it Brian, 6-1 v Sunderland wasn't it?  A colossal leap.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 04:12:23 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood

A header from 2 yards out?

Thought that at the time but watching the replay Wood didn't seem to get much power in it. Heaton didn't react well enough for me. By the time he got a hand to it, it was already well over the line.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: 1 of 54,437 on January 01, 2020, 04:18:48 PM
Great in the 1st Half, rode our luck in the 2nd, good job they were shite.
Unforgivable miss in 2nd half by Douglas Luis, should have put the game to bed but added to and prolonged the familiar agonising feeling that goes with being a Villa fan this season.
So glad we got the 3 points and 6 over the Xmas period although I was expecting 9.
UTV
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: 1 of 54,437 on January 01, 2020, 04:24:13 PM
Another wrong decision going against us with VAR!
No one was even claiming it was an offside and the Lineo didn't flag it or the Ref notice.
Its ruining the spontaneity of the game for me. Can't celebrate properly any more.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 04:24:50 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood

A header from 2 yards out?

Thought that at the time but watching the replay Wood didn't seem to get much power in it. Heaton didn't react well enough for me. By the time he got a hand to it, it was already well over the line.

A cross to the back post and a free header from 2 yards out, yet the keeper is at fault. Don’t know where “didn’t get much power” came from as well as it is over the goal line within a fraction of a second of it hitting his head.

You do realise replays are in slow motion and not real time?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: OCD on January 01, 2020, 04:29:49 PM
Another wrong decision going against us with VAR!
No one was even claiming it was an offside and the Lineo didn't flag it or the Ref notice.
Its ruining the spontaneity of the game for me. Can't celebrate properly any more.

Most ridiculous VAR yet. If his foot had been flat on the floor, it's probably not behind the line they've added on the screen. There's no room for common sense and it took so long that the players will be getting cold and risking injury.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Mister E on January 01, 2020, 04:30:13 PM
Well, after a few minutes I felt that the team looked so comfortable, building from the back and utilising three good footballing CB to great effect. The narrower set-up suits our players: we looked more of a unit and seemed less knackered chasing from wide. Even Trez looked effective.
Taylor - whilst clearly not a first-choice player - did okay, and if he could only cross better he might still have some value in the squad. Both Luiz and Nakamba played well, although Luiz had two gilt-edged chances in the second half to extend the lead: on the first, he should have squared for Wesley; on the other, his attempted lob was embarrassing.
I hope Kodjia is moved on quickly - he really adds nothing to the mix, and we need fighters and finishers. On the other hand, Wesley is shaping up, does appeat to understand his role better and was excellent at linking play today.

Final point: I hope the woman in Row S or T (Seat number roughly 20) is okay: after the second goal, young idiots cahrged down the steps and fell over and onto her - she was completely oblivious to what ws going on but ended up on a stretcher.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 04:31:06 PM
Another wrong decision going against us with VAR!
No one was even claiming it was an offside and the Lineo didn't flag it or the Ref notice.
Its ruining the spontaneity of the game for me. Can't celebrate properly any more.

It wasn’t wrong as he was a mm offside after running it through 3 mins of computer technology. The problem is that they have changed the rules to state offsides and attacking players handballs are absolutes but any other decision needs to be a clear and obvious error.

Also their fullback did raise an arm to claim offside on the initial challenge but that was probably just instinct as by the time the ball dropped for the challenge, Wesley was further back and would have looked more offside.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 01, 2020, 04:31:21 PM
Just a dream I know but can you remember when Christian Benteke leaped so high that he had to head it DOWN to get under the crossbar?

Someone once swore that against Sunderland he jumped so high he had time to wave to the traffic on the M6 before scoring, but that might have been an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: oldtimernow on January 01, 2020, 04:33:05 PM
Nine points off the European places.

Thank heavens for Mr Positivity!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 01, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oW_S7IhoYXg
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brian green on January 01, 2020, 04:35:23 PM
Yes Dave, (hope your family are on the mend) do you remember the photo of his third goal?  The other players' (who were also jumping as high as they could) heads were level with Benteke's waist. It is those kind of memories that keep me going.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 04:37:13 PM
Just a dream I know but can you remember when Christian Benteke leaped so high that he had to head it DOWN to get under the crossbar?

Someone once swore that against Sunderland he jumped so high he had time to wave to the traffic on the M6 before scoring, but that might have been an exaggeration.
Tis true, my doctor waved back. Let's get him back.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 01, 2020, 04:40:53 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oW_S7IhoYXg

His hat trick
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 04:41:40 PM
What happened in the second half in the way they were set up.

Us or them?  For them, he decided to start crossing from deeper, (their left back put in a shitload of crosses in second half) and using Rodriguez to be bigger thorn then Barnes was. It explains why they had a lot more chances as most was headers over or wide under pressure, however some were also some really bad misses like Rodriguez over the bar from four yards our (if he can’t use his hands in that position he can’t score the cheating bastard).

For us, Smith gave our players the usual half time nursery rhymes and ovaltine which made our player lethargic again.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: paul_e on January 01, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
What happened in the second half in the way they were set up.

Us or them?  For them, he decided to start crossing from deeper, (their left back put in a shitload of crosses in second half) and using Rodriguez to be bigger thorn then Barnes was. It explains why they had a lot more chances as most was headers over or wide under pressure, however some were also some really bad misses like Rodriguez over the bar from four yards our (if he can’t use his hands in that position he can’t score the cheating bastard).

For us, Smith gave our players the usual half time nursery rhymes and ovaltine which made our player lethargic again.

For them the real change was that they pushed the full backs on and tucked the wide players in. It meant they had a lot of players around the edge of our box which drew guilbert and Taylor a little narrow and gave them space to cross from deep.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: curiousorange on January 01, 2020, 04:48:30 PM
Periodic reminder that I cannot stand Jay Rodriguez.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
Periodic reminder that I cannot stand Jay Rodriguez.

I'd forgotten all about him, easy to do mind, he's irrelevant.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 01, 2020, 04:50:50 PM
What happened in the second half in the way they were set up.

Us or them?  For them, he decided to start crossing from deeper, (their left back put in a shitload of crosses in second half) and using Rodriguez to be bigger thorn then Barnes was. It explains why they had a lot more chances as most was headers over or wide under pressure, however some were also some really bad misses like Rodriguez over the bar from four yards our (if he can’t use his hands in that position he can’t score the cheating bastard).

For us, Smith gave our players the usual half time nursery rhymes and ovaltine which made our player lethargic again.
thanks
Sometimes difficult to work out on the tv. Did they change from 4 4 2 ?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 04:54:04 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oW_S7IhoYXg

His hat trick


That second goal was everything right about Benteke, absolute power, the third wasn't too shabby either.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 01, 2020, 04:55:29 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oW_S7IhoYXg

His hat trick


That second goal was everything right about Benteke, absolute power, the third wasn't too shabby either.

He had the ability to score every type of goal you could imagine
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
Yes Dave, (hope your family are on the mend) do you remember the photo of his third goal?  The other players' (who were also jumping as high as they could) heads were level with Benteke's waist. It is those kind of memories that keep me going.

Great isn't it Brian.  Not wishing to digress from the thread but, do you remember Andy Lochhead's goal against Manure in the '71 League Cup semi-final at Villa Park.  It's forever etched into my memory.  Ian Ure goes up to meet the ball to head it away just a split second too soon, misses contact altogether and is on his way down as Andy passes him on the way up and bang! Villa equalise.

Gang are all well now Brian thanks.  The little bleeders are hyper!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Matt C on January 01, 2020, 05:02:09 PM
Huge win, let’s hope we kick on from here and get some serious business done this month.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brian green on January 01, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
I do indeed Dave.  Where would be without these kind of memories?  Which was the game when Andy Gray jumped so high at the Witton End that air traffic control were alerted?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on January 01, 2020, 05:11:42 PM
Periodic reminder that I cannot stand Jay Rodriguez.

That 'shot' he did 2nd half from around 30 yards was pathetic. It dribbled out of play in slow motion.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 05:11:44 PM
I do indeed Dave.  Where would be without these kind of memories?  Which was the game when Andy Gray jumped so high at the Witton End that air traffic control were alerted?

All of them as I recall.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 05:16:26 PM
I do indeed Dave.  Where would be without these kind of memories?  Which was the game when Andy Gray jumped so high at the Witton End that air traffic control were alerted?
Most of them
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 01, 2020, 05:17:12 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood

A header from 2 yards out?

Thought that at the time but watching the replay Wood didn't seem to get much power in it. Heaton didn't react well enough for me. By the time he got a hand to it, it was already well over the line.

A cross to the back post and a free header from 2 yards out, yet the keeper is at fault. Don’t know where “didn’t get much power” came from as well as it is over the goal line within a fraction of a second of it hitting his head.

You do realise replays are in slow motion and not real time?

It's also possible to save shots "from 2 yards out" but harder if the keeper's starting position is behind the goal line. Watch his back foot. Heaton shouldn't be watching that cross either, should be coming out and challenging Wood.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 01, 2020, 05:19:43 PM
Periodic reminder that I cannot stand Jay Rodriguez.

I love him especially the way he took his two sitters today.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Loxton01 on January 01, 2020, 05:31:43 PM
A game that we had to win and we did. Pleasing to see the reaction after the Watford game. After another Watford win and Southampton win - it looks like it is going to be an incredibly tall order to stay up but first half we showed our best football for weeks whilst in the second half we showed some resolve to hang on.

Observations

The three at the back added some solidity - also liked particularly in the first half how the defenders bought the ball out - which pushes the team up the pitch and negates douglas going back to get the ball. We must persist with this system.

Grealish was absolutely superb

The rest of the team tried really hard and best weve seen of them

We need to go and buy/loan three big players  - Striker, athletic midfielder and another winger.

The likes of Lansbury, Kodija can go if we get replacements.

Hourihane also simply cannot cover the ground and is such a huge quandry
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 01, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
Always enjoy winning at one of my local away grounds!

Very assured first half performance where I thought the formation worked a treat.  Second half didn't quite have the same spark and thought we might rue missing the chance very early on.  Nervous last nine minutes... but thought we saw those out reasonably well. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ads on January 01, 2020, 05:38:50 PM
Very satisfying cruncher from Taylor on that Stripey Bastard Rodriguez.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 01, 2020, 05:43:38 PM
Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11899074/grealish-fires-villa-out-of-drop-zone)

Heaton should be saving that header from Wood

A header from 2 yards out?

Thought that at the time but watching the replay Wood didn't seem to get much power in it. Heaton didn't react well enough for me. By the time he got a hand to it, it was already well over the line.

A cross to the back post and a free header from 2 yards out, yet the keeper is at fault. Don’t know where “didn’t get much power” came from as well as it is over the goal line within a fraction of a second of it hitting his head.

You do realise replays are in slow motion and not real time?

It's also possible to save shots "from 2 yards out" but harder if the keeper's starting position is behind the goal line. Watch his back foot. Heaton shouldn't be watching that cross either, should be coming out and challenging Wood.

I know it is possible, but in most cases it isn’t which is why they look spectacular when they do happen and mostly it is the striker hitting it directly at the keeper rather then the keeper leaping and saving it.

If there was blame, it was our players forgetting Ashley Westwood does not play for us any longer and has been coached how to cross better, and Hause or Marvellous for just falling against Woods rather the at least trying to jump challenge. However it was a quality ball in and I wouldn’t be saying the defence should have done better if we had scored it.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 01, 2020, 05:44:44 PM

Final point: I hope the woman in Row S or T (Seat number roughly 20) is okay: after the second goal, young idiots cahrged down the steps and fell over and onto her - she was completely oblivious to what ws going on but ended up on a stretcher.
Yes, she was fine, she emerged just after half time and came down to the front by us.
Those steps are too big and access is poor, though that doesn't excuse that reckless behaviour.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 05:47:41 PM
The away end is like that as it's an old terrace with seats bolted in. The last time I went we had the whole end and the concourse couldn't cope so smeg knows it coped when it was a terrace with a bigger capacity.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ads on January 01, 2020, 05:50:03 PM
They have a marquee on the car park for beer, so although it was congested and cramped, it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
Classic.

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bobby Boy on January 01, 2020, 06:10:55 PM
Classic.



What was the MoM award given to Jack there? It looked like a can of WD40.

Surely BT Sport can do better than that. A can of deodorant at least.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 01, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
Thank you Dean, Jack, all the players, fans & everyone connected with AVFC, great start to the new year! Especially Dean who I have questioned, fair play gaffer, fair play
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 06:15:08 PM
Villa fans "wanker wanker wanker wanker"

Tyrone to Jack "I think that's for you mate"

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: CT on January 01, 2020, 06:17:32 PM
Tyrone: "I think that's for you mate!" 😂
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 06:20:25 PM




Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 01, 2020, 06:28:21 PM
Kodjia’s cameo today was a real reality check in terms of thinking he’s an option.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Davkaus on January 01, 2020, 06:30:25 PM
Kodjia’s cameo today was a real reality check in terms of thinking he’s an option.

Agreed. I'd been calling for him to get some time for weeks, after all, could he be any worse than Wesley?

Yes. the answer is clearly yes. The bloke is brain dead.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on January 01, 2020, 06:37:29 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 01, 2020, 06:38:29 PM
FFS.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aev on January 01, 2020, 06:39:10 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.

Fks sake. We have had terrible luck with injuries this season.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 01, 2020, 06:39:55 PM
GK needed in January then?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 01, 2020, 06:40:32 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 06:42:10 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.
I disasgree
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 01, 2020, 06:42:16 PM
Bit harsh in both his brief appearances this season he’s done well.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on January 01, 2020, 06:43:12 PM
Steer is injured, Nyland is unproven at this level and Kalinic seems to have vanished.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on January 01, 2020, 06:44:58 PM
Bit harsh in both his brief appearances this season he’s done well.

Agree with that but a bit concerned if we need to go to the end of the season with him given his inexperience at this level.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: andyh on January 01, 2020, 06:47:17 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.
I disasgree
So do I.
He looks like he has come back far more confident, composed and decisive.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 06:48:27 PM
Nyland has looked ok in his couple of appearances.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 06:48:40 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.

BT Sport making shit up more like, he won’t even have a scan until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 01, 2020, 06:49:16 PM
If I remember rightly, he was starting to look a lot better when we signed Kalinic.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on January 01, 2020, 06:49:37 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.
I disasgree
So do I.
He looks like he has come back far more confident, composed and decisive.


Last time, he was playing behind a car crash of a defence. Hopefully, the present one will give him more protection.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 01, 2020, 06:50:14 PM
Nyland has looked ok in his couple of appearances.

Agree far more confident collecting the high ball around the area while under pressure
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Allan C on January 01, 2020, 06:59:38 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Nice work if you can get it.
Don’t bet on it
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: 1 of 54,437 on January 01, 2020, 07:00:06 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.

He was last season but he was great against Liverpool in the Cup  but not sure we need to take the risk as no substitute keeper at the moment.
Where is Kalinic anyway? Has he been boiled-up, ground down and sold for dog meat yet as that's about the only way we are going to get anything back for him.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 01, 2020, 07:02:09 PM
Nyland has looked ok in his couple of appearances.

Agree far more confident collecting the high ball around the area while under pressure

Looked far from comfortable with the ball at his feet in the cup game against Liverpool.  If Heaton is going to be out for a prolonged period of time, I think we need to get a loan in as we just can't take any chances.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 07:03:41 PM
Unless we shift Kalinic there's no chance we're bringing in a keeper imo.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 01, 2020, 07:04:19 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Nice work if you can get it.
Don’t bet on it
Air steward ? Pilot?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 07:06:49 PM
Yes, Nyland is a liability.

Sam Johnston doing a pretty good impression of a liability earlier. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 07:07:43 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Nice work if you can get it.
Don’t bet on it
Air steward ? Pilot?

Gigolo? International man of mystery? James Bond?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: wolfman999 on January 01, 2020, 07:08:11 PM
Work has seen me in Cape Verde over new year and having to rely on the match thread and the Sky Sports app has left me a nervous wreck. Particularly the 9 MINUTES added time. Fantastic win and hopefully a building block. I was hopeful that Watford was the lowest point and I’m sticking with that thought
Nice work if you can get it.
Don’t bet on it
Air steward ? Pilot?

Gigolo? International man of mystery? James Bond?

Pirate?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 01, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Ads on January 01, 2020, 07:08:49 PM
Freddie Guilbert has put up two pictures of cuts he took from the Burnley cloggers. Dirty twats.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 01, 2020, 07:10:14 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.

Same old Burnley then
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rougegorge on January 01, 2020, 07:10:42 PM
Unless we shift Kalinic there's no chance we're bringing in a keeper imo.
He's still Croatia's number 2 keeper, so either that says something about their pool of keepers, or it indicates that he ought to be as capable as an emergency loanee backup would be.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 07:11:08 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.

He posted them on Instagram and one of the Villa pages posted them on Twitter.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brian green on January 01, 2020, 07:14:15 PM
Stowaway hanging on to the landing gear?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Villan82 on January 01, 2020, 07:27:56 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.

Fks sake. We have had terrible luck with injuries this season.

We have bad luck with injuries every season and it is always our key players.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Kimaster1976 on January 01, 2020, 07:47:30 PM
Nyland actually played very well at Wolves and took a fantastic claim from a corner in the dying minutes today to ease the pressure. He's done more in his 2 Premier League sub appearances than anything in his run of games as no.1 last season where he looked a complete liability.

So maybe he can cover well enough if his confidence is high as Heaton will be a big loss in the run in.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 01, 2020, 07:57:31 PM
Good job we won today with the results.  We have brought Bournemouth, Burnley into the scrap too.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BC Villain on January 01, 2020, 08:01:33 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.

At 33 it could be far more than season ending.  Hopefully it's not as bad as reports claim
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 08:13:21 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.

He posted them on Instagram and one of the Villa pages posted them on Twitter.

Would there be any chance of someone posting them on here please?  I've seen a more exploded view from another angle of the challenge on Wesley, as far as I'm concerned the defender should have gone. 
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Monty on January 01, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
BT sport reporting that Tom Heaton has damaged his Anterior knee liagament. If true, that's his season finished.

At 33 it could be far more than season ending.  Hopefully it's not as bad as reports claim

Jesus. If true I seriously think we'll go down, he's our joint most important player. Can't believe our luck sometimes.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: RamboandBruno on January 01, 2020, 08:34:08 PM
Unless we shift Kalinic there's no chance we're bringing in a keeper imo.
He's still Croatia's number 2 keeper, so either that says something about their pool of keepers, or it indicates that he ought to be as capable as an emergency loanee backup would be.

A lot been said on here (a little bit unfairly imo) about Wes being the worst striker ever seen at villa. However, in his brief spell in goal last season I thought he was probs the worst keeper I’ve seen down there. Really tall but can’t jump, too tall to get down quickly, struggled with his kicking. There’s a Croatian bloke at work who also says he can’t believe he still gets in there squad.

Be gutted if heatons done for season, as he is quality. Might need to get a loan in in case Nyland wobbles, though he’s looked far more assured in his appearances this season.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on January 01, 2020, 09:10:08 PM
Thankfully only watched the first half. That first half performance for me was back up to the standard we set at Old Trafford in terms of intensity and concentration, though still looked a bit wobbly at the back. When did not playing the ball across your own box stop being a thing? My heart’s in my mouth every time they do it. Incredibly risky if your main aim is not losing the game!

Three cracking finishes from Jack and Wesley. The response from those two especially after the Watford stinker was really good to see. Whatever Dean and the coaching staff said after that match seemed to do the trick.

Chuffed for Smith.

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: itbrvilla on January 01, 2020, 09:12:50 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.

He posted them on Instagram and one of the Villa pages posted them on Twitter.

Would there be any chance of someone posting them on here please?  I've seen a more exploded view from another angle of the challenge on Wesley, as far as I'm concerned the defender should have gone. 
Tried to find them but can't see them on his Instagram
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 09:15:10 PM
Guillbert posted on Twitter some pictures of his leg and ankle, dirty fuckers Burnley.

He posted them on Instagram and one of the Villa pages posted them on Twitter.

Would there be any chance of someone posting them on here please?  I've seen a more exploded view from another angle of the challenge on Wesley, as far as I'm concerned the defender should have gone. 
Tried to find them but can't see them on his Instagram

Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 01, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
The twitter repost https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1212445042721333255
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 01, 2020, 09:24:16 PM
The twitter repost https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1212445042721333255

Thanks PWS, a couple of inches higher and he would have lost his knackers.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: JJ-AV on January 01, 2020, 09:27:14 PM
edit
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Eckybloke on January 01, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
Do we have someone doing a search on FM20 for shot stopping 20, handling 20 and passing 15 so we can get a bunch of unrealistic options in the table for us to critique?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: not3bad on January 01, 2020, 10:11:31 PM
What's the situation with Jed Steer now? Is he still injured and what is his expected return date?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 01, 2020, 10:11:48 PM
Do we have someone doing a search on FM20 for shot stopping 20, handling 20 and passing 15 so we can get a bunch of unrealistic options in the table for us to critique?
Eh?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 01, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
What's the situation with Jed Steer now? Is he still injured and what is his expected return date?

End of Jan he should be back
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 01, 2020, 10:30:55 PM
Anyone who says Wes is worst Villa striker really is just so mistaken.

Crouch scored 6 goals in 37 games in 2.5 seasons. I think Wes has 6 already.
Baros 9 in 37 in 2.5 seasons.

How long did it take JPA to score consistently?

Balaban
Kozak (alebit unlucky)

That is without starting on the cheaper options we acquired over the years. Lillis, Bowery etc..


Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: usav on January 01, 2020, 10:36:00 PM
Playing in a system/lineup for most of the season that has allowed him one chance on goal per game.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on January 01, 2020, 10:51:43 PM
Excellent first half, competent second, which will do us fine.

The VAR was an irritant, no real opinion if he was offside or not but it’s annoying that he was neither interfering with play, and was another phase anyway from the one which the goal came from.

Burnley were very, very poor. Our work rate and desire was much improved and we were well worth the win.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: CT Villan on January 01, 2020, 11:09:00 PM
The twitter repost https://twitter.com/villareport/status/1212445042721333255

Did you see his subsequent comment in response to the troll...

Troll : Getting 80 grand a week for that il let ya Rip my arsehole open for that

Freddy : Me too 👉🏽🍑🔞
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 01, 2020, 11:16:19 PM
Great response from l'enfant terrible.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: danno on January 01, 2020, 11:53:12 PM
I'm not really singling him out for praise, more expressing pleasant surprise with how he played, but I thought Trezegeut really put a shift in today. Without the ball especially his pressing got our second goal started. Him Marvelous and Luiz finally looked like decent premier league operators.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: The Edge on January 02, 2020, 12:52:11 AM
Do we have someone doing a search on FM20 for shot stopping 20, handling 20 and passing 15 so we can get a bunch of unrealistic options in the table for us to critique?
Eh?
What the actual?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 02, 2020, 02:05:44 AM
5m 40s to see what VAR is doing to the game

Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Eckybloke on January 02, 2020, 08:25:55 AM
I didn’t think the reference was that obscure...😳

We have a potential goalkeeper search required following this game.
Football Manager 20 is the most up to date version of the popular football database.
Previously we have accused people of getting examples from football manager.
I have used similar parameters in the game to quickly filter out goalkeepers I didn’t fancy...

😁
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Scratchins on January 02, 2020, 08:38:43 AM
 Some thoughts after New Year’s Day – the match has already been well covered.
Before the match the fans were behind Dean and Wes unlike a lot of online fans.
Stanchions cut out more of the game than I remembered. These old stadia may be much loved by the media but from the press box they don’t have a big chunk of the field obscured.
Anyone who still supports VAR should watch the fans reaction after Wes’s goal. You don’t cheer a goal now, you cheer the restart. It is sucking the enjoyment out of the game (and I wonder if they thought that the leg in claret/blue was Villa when they disallowed the 1st ?).
 Sean Dyche and Burnley are not the lovable underdogs. They were niggly and rough.  After fouling Wes, as he was leaving on a stretcher I looked around and practically none of their fans applauded in sympathy. They did give Heaton a more fitting appreciation.
I shall probably die of a heart attack in the last 10 minutes of a Villa game.
The M6 is much better when you are the only ones awake at that time.
I love the Villa.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 02, 2020, 08:39:26 AM
I was in A&E having intravenous antibiotics being pumped into me when the game was on (!), so I decided not to check the scores until I came out (as there’s  only so much stress & misery I could handle). You can imagine my joy on seeing the result after such a shite start to 2020! Well done to Dean & the boys for finally pulling it out the bag after such a dreadful run of performances (& consequential results). Let’s hope this marks the start of a far more positive period for our magnificent club. Let’s be ‘avin you! 👍
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Clampy on January 02, 2020, 08:45:51 AM
It was a tremendous effort yesterday. A goal disallowed, two players stretchered off and an extra 9 mins to play through at the end. No-one really had a poor game and Wesley looked more involved than he has been of late. Let's hope the meeting they had did the trick.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on January 02, 2020, 11:16:30 AM
Deano clearly needs to be hard on the players after every game and I think we will be all right for the rest of the season?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on January 02, 2020, 11:23:48 AM
I was in A&E having intravenous antibiotics being pumped into me when the game was on (!), so I decided not to check the scores until I came out (as there’s  only so much stress & misery I could handle). You can imagine my joy on seeing the result after such a shite start to 2020! Well done to Dean & the boys for finally pulling it out the bag after such a dreadful run of performances (& consequential results). Let’s hope this marks the start of a far more positive period for our magnificent club. Let’s be ‘avin you! 👍

Get well soon mate.  A win always lifts the spirits.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy65 on January 02, 2020, 11:30:37 AM
Anyone who says Wes is worst Villa striker really is just so mistaken.

Crouch scored 6 goals in 37 games in 2.5 seasons. I think Wes has 6 already.
Baros 9 in 37 in 2.5 seasons.

How long did it take JPA to score consistently?

Balaban
Kozak (alebit unlucky)

That is without starting on the cheaper options we acquired over the years. Lillis, Bowery etc..

Forgot about Kozak. Just looked at his stats and he hasn’t played that much since leaving us although 19 appearances this season for Sparta Prague. V Unlucky with his leg break.

We don’t have much luck with injuries and strikers. Benteke and Bent also sustained serious injuries when with us and they never seemed the same thereafter. Let’s hope Wes makes a full recovery
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 02, 2020, 11:43:03 AM
I was in A&E having intravenous antibiotics being pumped into me when the game was on (!), so I decided not to check the scores until I came out (as there’s  only so much stress & misery I could handle). You can imagine my joy on seeing the result after such a shite start to 2020! Well done to Dean & the boys for finally pulling it out the bag after such a dreadful run of performances (& consequential results). Let’s hope this marks the start of a far more positive period for our magnificent club. Let’s be ‘avin you! 👍

Get well soon mate.  A win always lifts the spirits.

Thanks Dave, much appreciated.  ;)

I was unfortunately badly bitten on the hand by my cat (Balders) - whilst attempting to put her into her carrying-basket - during my move to a new flat on the 31st! My entire arm was horribly swollen by the morning, so an early-doors trip to A&E was the only course of action. You can imagine the human carnage that was flooding into the place after the madness of NYE!! :o

On a more positive tip, my moggy isn't usually quite so vicious (!), but I reckon she could do a job in our midfield: what with SJM being out for months. Every cloud...  :D
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 02, 2020, 12:02:52 PM
Any chance your cat could be the new Tabby Abraham?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 02, 2020, 12:48:32 PM
Any chance your cat could be the new Tabby Abraham?

Not unless she's kitted-out with stilts! ;)
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: postal on January 02, 2020, 01:42:08 PM
Any chance your cat could be the new Tabby Abraham?

Not unless she's kitted-out with stilts! ;)

Surely that would be kitten-ed-out?  ;)
Ah, here's my coat!
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 02, 2020, 02:35:15 PM
He was grabbed by the pussy.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 02, 2020, 02:40:42 PM
Any chance your cat could be the new Tabby Abraham?

Not unless she's kitted-out with stilts! ;)

Surely that would be kitten-ed-out?  ;)
Ah, here's my coat!

D'oh!  :o

ps Shirley there's a claws on here to prevent crap cat-based-puns?
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 02, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
He was grabbed by the pussy.

I'm a she, so it was more applicable - and indeed technically possible - than you thought!  :D
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Bad English on January 02, 2020, 04:14:48 PM
He was grabbed by the pussy.

I'm a she, so it was more applicable - and indeed technically possible - than you thought!  :D
Oops! Sorry. I've not been paying attention.
Title: Re: Burnley v Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: dcdavecollett on January 10, 2020, 05:15:50 PM
Horrible tackle and injury for Wes.

This after his most impressive game of the season -scored one, could have had another, worked hard down the sides, and made a good long pass to help set up the second goal.
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