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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on December 15, 2015, 12:51:28 PM
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Newcastle v Villa
Barclays Premier League
St James' Park
Saturday December 19
Kick-off: 5.30pm
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As massive games go, this is............................... massive
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2-0 to them
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0-1 to the Villa. Stranger things have occurred.
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We've got to turn the corner at some point - or just have something go in our favour - a bit like TS making the substitutions he did at Leicester.
I said a week ago I'd happily lose to Arsenal in exchange for winning on Saturday evening, well the boys did the first bit, now just need to do the latter.
I've got a feeling this may be where the season starts. :)
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We've got to turn the corner at some point - or just have something go in our favour - a bit like TS making the substitutions he did at Leicester.
I said a week ago I'd happily lose to Arsenal in exchange for winning on Saturday evening, well the boys did the first bit, now just need to do the latter.
I've got a feeling this may be where the season starts. :)
Its either where the season starts or ends. I honestly see no way back from a defeat. We are standing on the edge, staring into the abyss. Newcastle, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Norwich are all fighting like injured dogs. A point will scarcely do now, its time for someone, anyone to stand up and be counted. I dont know whether it has been suggested before but I would like to see Carles Gil in a number 10 role behind Traore and Ayew.
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2-0 Newcastle. Same script as usual with errors etc and one particulary terrible half.
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I can see where you're coming from Mat - but again, for me, that leaves the team looking "lightweight"
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Not a chance, I'm afraid. Now it's Newcastle's turn to take the piss, but for us to take it on the chin like men, not massive chubby teary twats with no shirts on.
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A battling 1-1 draw.
Waddle for them. Stainrod in reply for us.
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We will lose. Simple as.
Our players have no backbone, spirit, speed or ability, Newcastle have much more than us, even thought they are poor.
To win we will have to stand up and be counted against the crowd, our fragile, slow players won't know what's hit them.
A heavy defeat and cue more laughter.
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1-0 to them. Cue more provocation outside the away turnstiles after the game no doubt.
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Villa win. I have no reason other than the law of averages.
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They have been waiting for this day since 24th May 2009 (just had to look that up - season finished late that year !)
50,000 plus screaming geordies taking the piss. It will be horrible. 3-0 to them.
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I fancy us more against Norwich and Sunderland than I do on Saturday.
I love the away games but I've got to be honest, I'm glad I'm not going at the weekend. Anyone who's making the effort to go up there a week before Christmas when it's on the telly box given the way things are going deserves the greatest of respect. Well done and fair play.
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It's on the TV, a handy form guide, we've had it. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/12049375/Which-Premier-League-teams-fare-best-and-worst-when-on-television.html)
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I fancy us more against Norwich and Sunderland than I do on Saturday.
I love the away games but I've got to be honest, I'm glad I'm not going at the weekedn. Anyone who's making the effort to go up there a week before Christmas when it's on the telly box given the way things are going deserves the greatest of respect. Well done and fair play.
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Agree you wouldn't catch me doing that. 7.30 finish - arrive home what time? Midnight if your lucky?
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We will lose. Simple as.
Our players have no backbone, spirit, speed or ability, Newcastle have much more than us, even thought they are poor.
To win we will have to stand up and be counted against the crowd, our fragile, slow players won't know what's hit them.
A heavy defeat and cue more laughter.
As someone from the same era as Oscar, I fear his summation of many of our current players could well be an accurate assessment and forecast of the result.
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3-0 home win.
We look defeated already to me - no spine or fight. And every time I see Lescott bang on about how the players know these are big games, I piss myself laughing.
We deserve the media hammering - it's all self enduced
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I do wonder what kind of thought goes into Sky's selection of live games, as Newcastle's last three league games will all been shown live on Sky, plus of course we were on live only last Sunday.
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If we take Sunday's second half performance and build on that I think we have a decent chance. If we revert back to playing like we did in the first half we have no chance.
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a must win in my opinion....sadly 2/3 nil to them and cue much piss taking from the Newcastle fans down here that only started to "support" them around the time they spectacularly blew a 12 point lead at the top of the table and Keegan's hilarious meltdown...oh and at least they will keep their shirts on.
and just to let you know that it is not just us Villa fans suffering as I was speaking to 92yr old QPR fan Fred in the pub and he hopes and prays we get ourselves out of it....whenever I bump into him down the local he always loves to chat old time football and says what a great club the Villa(his words) are.
UTV
The Doc
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A stoic single goal victory for us. A cat's bum mouth post match analysis for Alan Shearer.
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4-0 to us
We will start with Traore who will murder their LB , we will score early they will have a player sent off and finish the half 3-0 down.Second half damage limitation for them but we will score again late ...
Yes I am crazy
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win
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1-1 Draw.
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Richards at RB, Clark at LB, no Gestede, Ayew up front, Traore on the right. Midfield, no effing idea.
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2-0 Them. I don't think we've won in the league there for 10 years.
I just don't see how we are going to score any goals. Jushede up top and we're fucked, Ayew is better on the wing, him up front doesn't work at all for me.
It's Kozak with Adama and Ayew either side for me. Gil and Grealish get a lot of praise but I don't see them doing anything worthy of such high regard, so I'm not too bothered which other three midfielders play.
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2-0 Newcastle. Same script as usual with errors etc and one particulary terrible half.
this
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If we can avoid gifting them a goal within the first 20 minutes, I think we have a great chance of winning. It won't take much for the crowd to turn and I can see Ayew having some luck against the Geordie defence. Traore would terrify them :) ...if he's on the field.
1-0 to the Villa.
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As I'm going it'll be;
Newcastle 2-0 Aston Villa
Cisse 41' & 57'
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More confident if Richards is fit - play him at RB. Okore and Lescott as CB's, Ilori at LB? if so, 1-1.
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More confident if Richards is fit - play him at RB. Okore and Lescott as CB's, Ilori at LB? if so, 1-1.
If he's fit we all know he'll be straight back in at CB. ::)
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I just can't see where our goals will come from any more. Another defeat and, jeez, won't their fans take the piss. Karma for what we did to them 5 or 6 years ago. Not a pleasant day for the travelling faithful I fear
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I just can't drum up any confidence for this game..for years wherever we have gone I have always believed we may get a result..that hope has gone now and all I ask for is we don't get humiliated. . Sad ..sad times...it's like seeing an ill aged relative that you remember years ago was the lufe and soul of the party.
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Them 2 Us 5
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Mega respect to those making the journey but unfortunately we are never going to reach let alone turn a corner and the law of averages doesn't apply.
A significant defeat which will remove any remaining vestiges of morale.
Probably the lowest point in our season to date.
I bet it rains too.
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I'm going and we are going to win 2-1.
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The Barcodes had a fair bit of luck in their recent wins over Bournemouth, Liverpool and Spurs. About time karma sorted this shit out.
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The more you practice the luckier you get. We look like a bunch of piss heads collected from various bus stops around the city and thrown together as a Sunday morning team. We get no luck because were incompetently shit.
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This will be the final nail...2-0.
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Yet another massive, must-win, turn our season around game.
1-0 loss with the p*ss being ripped out of us by the Geordies.
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I've gone for an away win. After seeing 3 home defeats this is my first away game this season. Hence we will win 2-1 and start a run of 4 consequative wins to give US a chance and hope of avoiding the drop.
Staying up in the Toon for a night on the town. I expect I will awake Sunday morning with the grim reality that my hopes of the win were dashed..............
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3-0 them, we'll start well, by well I mean pass it round in midfield and the back without actually hurting them, then after about 9 minutes Sanchez will over hit a pass too Lescott, in turn it will bounce of his shin and fall invitingly for however they have upfront to roll past Guzan, nobody will attempt to get the confidence back up, they'll all stand there arms on hips feeling sorry for themselves, 2-0 just before half time, probably from a penalty that was avoidable.
We'll then come out in the second half and realise that football is about attacking and give it some huff and puff for 15 minutes before being caught on the break for their 3rd, more self pity and heads down, then its half an hour of half arsed chasing the ball around as they 'ollay' it around.
Cue their strange fans seeing it as some sort of Karma for when we beat them 38 times and single handedly relegated them a few years back.
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Cue their strange fans seeing it as some sort of Karma for when we beat them 38 times and single handedly relegated them a few years back.
A Geordie mate I haven't spoken to in ages got in touch on Monday offering me his spare season ticket and a weekend up there, but I can't make it.
He is a really decent fella and always felt loosely positive towards us - he came with me to the 1-0 win at the Sty after Saunders had just joined them, and he treated me to a night out when I got back from Rotterdam - but he says their fans don't hate us for the relegation, but for the fact that we apparently revelled in their relegation. I pointed out that it is the nature of football fans to taunt, and he gets that, but he said they couldn't cope with the banners that were made in advance "why make a banner that isn't to support your own lads?" and it was "pre-prepared gloating". Apparently that is what sends them mad about us.
So we will lose 5-0.
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I guess it depends if the players are actually going to give everything or not.
I think we'll lose 3-0 😒
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3-0 them, it will be their worst performance of the season and they will outclass us in every department.
They will also pass the torch of Premier League Comedy Club on to us, it will be painful
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1-0 defeat.
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Heavy defeat 3/4-0
Will start brightly but will concede a soft goal before half time and implode 2nd half.
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At time of writing 27 think we are going to win. Delusional.
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If I see the usual bullshit appear on the OS from some of the players, talking about how up for it and determined they are, add a couple more goals for the toons onto my previous prediction above.
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I said on Sunday that I'd never seen a team look so low on confidence. Therefore the only way to kickstart our season is likely to be making several changes to the starting line up and trying something new. I'd go
Bunn
Richards Okore Clark Kinsella
Veretout Gana Gardner
Gill
Adama Ayew
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Right if they win its three on the spin not easy ! We are now closer to our next victory with that in mind 2:1 a goal for Vertout and Westwood.
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3-0 them, it will be their worst performance of the season and they will outclass us in every department.
They will also pass the torch of Premier League Comedy Club on to us, it will be painful
If only I could write this off as the ramblings of an online depressive. Unfortunately, I think this is exactly what will happen.
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I said on Sunday that I'd never seen a team look so low on confidence. Therefore the only way to kickstart our season is likely to be making several changes to the starting line up and trying something new. I'd go
Bunn
Richards Okore Clark Kinsella
Veretout Gana Gardner
Gill
Adama Ayew
Hate to piss on your bonfire but Gardner does not have a return date according to Physio room, and Richards will probably struggle to be ready in time
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Guzan
Hutton
Okore
Lescott
Bacuna
Sanchez
Gueye
Veretout
Traore
Ayew
Kozak
Can't stand Hutton but who else?
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Mega respect to those making the journey but unfortunately we are never going to reach let alone turn a corner and the law of averages doesn't apply.
A significant defeat which will remove any remaining vestiges of morale.
Probably the lowest point in our season to date.
I bet it rains too.
It only took about ten minutes after I booked my ticket, train and hotel for me to wonder what the feck I was thinking.
I'm also thinking of going to the Gateshead v Woking game earlier in the afternoon
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Guzan
Hutton
Okore
Lescott
Bacuna
Sanchez
Gueye
Veretout
Traore
Ayew
Kozak
Can't stand Hutton but who else?
Richards, Ilori or Crespo if any are fit?
That front 3 has got to be worth trying, Gabby and Gestede are not the answer up front, Sinclair is poor and Ayew would be much better cutting in from the left.
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I'm going for a flukey 1-0 win. Despite the previous 2 results, Newcastle are prone to self destruction.
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2 pub teams. I'm going for a 9-6 home win.
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If my predictions on Villa results had all come true over the years we'd not just have won the PL several times, but amassed enough points to win the Intergalatic Conference and the Interplanetary Champions League.
I predict once again that we will win.
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I think I'm gonna hide under the bed while this game is going on.
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If I see the usual bullshit appear on the OS from some of the players, talking about how up for it and determined they are, add a couple more goals for the toons onto my previous prediction above.
What do you expect to see on the OS, though?
Don't get me wrong, I am as sick of the empty words and as keen to see them replaced by actual action as the next man, but the OS have a shit load of content they have to find every week of the year.
Of course they are going to speak to players, and of course they are going to be upbeat, what else are they meant to say?
What do you expect to see there? A 12 minute long interview clip with Leandro Bacuna saying "we're fucked, we've had it" over and over again?
Micah Richards telling us the damage was done under the Sherwood section of this season and we're sleepwalking into oblivion?
It's like watching BBC3 for the evening and then moaning on about how you feel like someone has replaced your brain with a piss soaked sponge. That is what is *supposed* to happen.
That's what you're supposed to read on the OS.
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It is about this time in the week where the gloom of the past weekend lifts a little and a feeling of defiance kicks in usually accompanied by at least one viewing of this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPKJh-m_GO4
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If I see the usual bullshit appear on the OS from some of the players, talking about how up for it and determined they are, add a couple more goals for the toons onto my previous prediction above.
What do you expect to see on the OS, though?
Don't get me wrong, I am as sick of the empty words and as keen to see them replaced by actual action as the next man, but the OS have a shit load of content they have to find every week of the year.
Of course they are going to speak to players, and of course they are going to be upbeat, what else are they meant to say?
That's what you're supposed to read on the OS.
I know exactly what you mean but after 4 months it's becoming highly annoying.
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If I see the usual bullshit appear on the OS from some of the players, talking about how up for it and determined they are, add a couple more goals for the toons onto my previous prediction above.
What do you expect to see on the OS, though?
Don't get me wrong, I am as sick of the empty words and as keen to see them replaced by actual action as the next man, but the OS have a shit load of content they have to find every week of the year.
Of course they are going to speak to players, and of course they are going to be upbeat, what else are they meant to say?
That's what you're supposed to read on the OS.
I know exactly what you mean but after 4 months it's becoming highly annoying.
How much fun do you think it is for them though coming up with this stuff when the team is sitting firmly to the bottom of the league? It's not lost on them that they have spin something positive when everything Villa is quite miserable at the moment. The people that work there are not living in a bubble, so after 4 months they are probably sick of it too. Can you imagine joy on the OS let alone the clean up when we finally win a game?
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It will be tough, we seem to be playing everyone at the wrong time at the moment which is tough on Garde. Everton just hit top gear, Arsenal had just found their form in mid week, Watford are flying, and now we play the one team having watched them 3-4 times that are genuinely worse than us, just as they fluke 2-3 results and have some confidence.
The front 3 has to be different. What that looks like I don't know, but Ayew and Traore wide seems the logical choice. I would risk Gabby down the middle. Sideshow Bob is not the fastest at the back for them, and he can't do worse than Gestede. I fear we would lump it at Kozak, and think asking him to come in cold to start is too much, but I would have him on the bench.
In the middle of the park Sanchez seems to have gone from looking solid to looking anything but, so I would bring in Lyden. Training reports are good, holding midfielder, seems to have a bit of something. Give him a shot and put Gueye alongside him holding. Let Veretout have some room in front to find the front 3 who should have some movement.
The back 4 you might as well pick by playing musical chairs. I would ship Lescott and Richards to left back and right back, and give Ilori and Okore the middle. Can't be any bleedin worse.
Tony Parks can keep goal.
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Like the Derek and Clive worst job I ever had.
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It will be tough, we seem to be playing everyone at the wrong time at the moment which is tough on Garde. Everton just hit top gear, Arsenal had just found their form in mid week, Watford are flying, and now we play the one team having watched them 3-4 times that are genuinely worse than us, just as they fluke 2-3 results and have some confidence.
The front 3 has to be different. What that looks like I don't know, but Ayew and Traore wide seems the logical choice. I would risk Gabby down the middle. Sideshow Bob is not the fastest at the back for them, and he can't do worse than Gestede. I fear we would lump it at Kozak, and think asking him to come in cold to start is too much, but I would have him on the bench.
In the middle of the park Sanchez seems to have gone from looking solid to looking anything but, so I would bring in Lyden. Training reports are good, holding midfielder, seems to have a bit of something. Give him a shot and put Gueye alongside him holding. Let Veretout have some room in front to find the front 3 who should have some movement.
The back 4 you might as well pick by playing musical chairs. I would ship Lescott and Richards to left back and right back, and give Ilori and Okore the middle. Can't be any bleedin worse.
Tony Parks can keep goal.
To be fair there's no such thing as a bad time to play us. How many times have we seen in recent years teams and/or players on a bad run break that bad run against us.
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I think that pisses me off more than us losing these days Risso. We are almost every centre forwards favourite side to play. Defensively we have been bobbins for way too long, and one of the reasons I am happy to give Garde time to sort it out is I just don't see it being an easy thing to fix, unless you can spend 30 million in January on 3-4 experienced, quality defensive players in both midfield and defence.
It could be argued the best signing any club made in the last 12 months is Robert Huth - Leicester have not looked back since he signed.
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Just score some goals and don't cock it up at the back..
what is so hard about that?
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It could be argued the best signing any club made in the last 12 months is Robert Huth - Leicester have not looked back since he signed.
I miss the days when we could crack open a jar of pickled herring and the likes of Mellberg and Laursen would come running (or hobbling in the case of the latter).
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I am sure Newcastle fans will be looking forward to this one. Will there be banners though? I want banners! :)
No idea about the result, a dull nil nil would be apt but we will probably manage a loss. 1-0 to some flukey OG or something.
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Just score some goals and don't cock it up at the back..
what is so hard about that?
Can you please give the team talk on Saturday?Just score some goals and don't cock it up at the back..
what is so hard about that?
Can you please give the team talk on Saturday?
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We lost three players from last season who went out wanting to win, we have players now who go out hoping for the best and too ready to accept defeat. I don't see much fight on the pitch and Huttons pull back for the penalty was a classic case of a player caught out then having a brain fart. I don't know who i would play exept for not playing Getstede ever again, they have all had chances and all let us down all season. 2-0.
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I said on Sunday that I'd never seen a team look so low on confidence. Therefore the only way to kickstart our season is likely to be making several changes to the starting line up and trying something new. I'd go
Bunn
Richards Okore Clark Kinsella
Veretout Gana Gardner
Gill
Adama Ayew
i will give you 100 quid if that team starts
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-excuses-newcastle-saturday-theyre-10602997
Much as it pains me this is spot on, I suppose laughing at their demise was going to bite us on the arse one day.
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Quote:'There are no excuses for Newcastle on Saturday - they're better than 'woeful' Aston Villa".
So what are we going to do? Stand up you sad sacks and fight for the cause! However in reality we will just roll over easy as, this just sickens me and tells me these clowns have no testicular fortitude and are just happy with their mega paydays under the pretense of being top professional footballers. As for Garde well!! .....who knows, I''m just at a loss on how things have got this bad. Just believe and go and win
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Well, we are due aren't we?
Either that, or a nil-nil with three red cards given out in an everybody loses type atmosphere.
However I'll go with us to win...somehow.
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I've had a feeling we'll win this. No idea why, apart from the fact that I'm staying with a friend of mine for the weekend who is a big Newcastle fan. I'll be on the first row of the upper tier on the away end - so might actually get to see something.
Anyway,
Guzan
Ilori Richards Okore Lescott
Adama Veretout Sanchez Gardner Grealish
Ayew
Keep it tight, and look to frustrate them. 2-1 Villa.
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4-1 Newcastle, relegation, new manager, playoffs and promotion.
Yes I know, I'm being optimistic about the promotion but you never know ;-)
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I've had a feeling we'll win this. No idea why, apart from the fact that I'm staying with a friend of mine for the weekend who is a big Newcastle fan. I'll be on the first row of the upper tier on the away end - so might actually get to see something.
Anyway,
Guzan
Ilori Richards Okore Lescott
Adama Veretout Sanchez Gardner Grealish
Ayew
Keep it tight, and look to frustrate them. 2-1 Villa.
Gardner interesting choice not sure if he has even been on the bench this season, in the league anyway. Would be brilliant if he did eventually fulfil his potential, or at least make a start.
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An away win against the odds to breathe new life in to our season and provide momentum for a surge of optimism and an up-and-at-'em crack at West Ham on Boxing Day. 2-1 Villa, as the St James's crowd look on in disbelief.
No realistic alternative to Guzan, but at the back Hutton has to go after too many individual errors. In comes Richards at RB, with Okore and Clark as the CB pairing and Lescott filling in at LB.
Gana will get his chin off his chest, Sanchez will get rid of that mask and return to form, and Veretout will continue his improvement.
Up front, no place for either of the two duds, Gabby and Gestede. In comes Ayew to lead the line, supported by our most creative player Gil and the returning boy wonder, Grealish.
Adama Traore to come off the bench with plenty of time in the second half to make an impact.
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They always beat us at St James regardless of how well either team has been playing whether it was the rampant Andy Cole/Beardsley partnership of the early 90s or the last 2-3 visits where both sides have been dreadful but they've still managed to grab a goal against us. Cant see anything other than more misery this weekend. 0-2
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According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) Gardner's injured - no return date
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Guys this season is completely done, there is absolutely no way back whatsoever . The point situation is utterly grim but the lack of belief, quality and fight in the team is what will seal our fate. We need to pray we get bought by a chairman that actually wants to be here so the slide goes no further than The Championship.
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An away win against the odds to breathe new life in to our season and provide momentum for a surge of optimism and an up-and-at-'em crack at West Ham on Boxing Day. 2-1 Villa, as the St James's crowd look on in disbelief.
No realistic alternative to Guzan, but at the back Hutton has to go after too many individual errors. In comes Richards at RB, with Okore and Clark as the CB pairing and Lescott filling in at LB.
Gana will get his chin off his chest, Sanchez will get rid of that mask and return to form, and Veretout will continue his improvement.
Up front, no place for either of the two duds, Gabby and Gestede. In comes Ayew to lead the line, supported by our most creative player Gil and the returning boy wonder, Grealish.
Adama Traore to come off the bench with plenty of time in the second half to make an impact.
Lescott - no thanks. I'd rather play the kid. Gil and Grealish together. No thanks.
Other than that you are about as good as we can get.
Does anybody know if Bunn is any good?
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Is Kozak ever going to get a chance ?
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An away win against the odds to breathe new life in to our season and provide momentum for a surge of optimism and an up-and-at-'em crack at West Ham on Boxing Day. 2-1 Villa, as the St James's crowd look on in disbelief.
No realistic alternative to Guzan, but at the back Hutton has to go after too many individual errors. In comes Richards at RB, with Okore and Clark as the CB pairing and Lescott filling in at LB.
Gana will get his chin off his chest, Sanchez will get rid of that mask and return to form, and Veretout will continue his improvement.
Up front, no place for either of the two duds, Gabby and Gestede. In comes Ayew to lead the line, supported by our most creative player Gil and the returning boy wonder, Grealish.
Adama Traore to come off the bench with plenty of time in the second half to make an impact.
Lescott - no thanks. I'd rather play the kid. Gil and Grealish together. No thanks.
Other than that you are about as good as we can get.
Does anybody know if Bunn is any good?
Good thinking from both.
Don't think he'll drop Hutton...he is a key factor going forward - just a bit shit at it.
The Richards RB/CB situation could be interesting.
I think we'll nick it.
(I think this every week! It's the hope that kills you!)
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Is Crespo still on our books? Wasn't he described as a utility defender who could cover any position in the back line? Perhaps worth a shot at LB or RB.
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Like always I have convinced myself we will win. 3-0 Villa. Hutton, Ayew and Lescott
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An away win against the odds to breathe new life in to our season and provide momentum for a surge of optimism and an up-and-at-'em crack at West Ham on Boxing Day. 2-1 Villa, as the St James's crowd look on in disbelief.
No realistic alternative to Guzan, but at the back Hutton has to go after too many individual errors. In comes Richards at RB, with Okore and Clark as the CB pairing and Lescott filling in at LB.
Gana will get his chin off his chest, Sanchez will get rid of that mask and return to form, and Veretout will continue his improvement.
Up front, no place for either of the two duds, Gabby and Gestede. In comes Ayew to lead the line, supported by our most creative player Gil and the returning boy wonder, Grealish.
Adama Traore to come off the bench with plenty of time in the second half to make an impact.
Lescott - no thanks. I'd rather play the kid. Gil and Grealish together. No thanks.
Other than that you are about as good as we can get.
Does anybody know if Bunn is any good?
Bunn has played 171 games since 2001 the highlight being 23 games at Norwich in 3 seasons, other clubs are Sheff Utd 32 appearances, Leicester 3 appearances and 6 for Blackburn
So I would say not very good
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According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) Gardner's injured - no return date
Shame. Had hoped he would insert some passion into our midfield.
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Newcastle 6-0 Villa
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Easy home win - with our shower failing to have a shot on target.
Them 4 - Chumps 0
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Newcastle 0-3 Aston Villa.
No Newcastle fans giving it large behind the barriers after the game this time.
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Is Crespo still on our books? Wasn't he described as a utility defender who could cover any position in the back line? Perhaps worth a shot at LB or RB.
He did ok in the game v Stoke at sort of RCB
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Our fringe players must be unbelievably bad if they really can't improve the first XI. 2-0 Villa
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According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) Gardner's injured - no return date
Shame. Had hoped he would insert some passion into our midfield.
Only if he throws his Crutches/hospital bed/sicknote at them, they should rename this kid Gardening leave for the amount of time he`s played for us.
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Newcastle 0-3 Aston Villa.
No Newcastle fans giving it large behind the barriers after the game this time.
Yes they were very animated in April weren't they?!
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According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) Gardner's injured - no return date
Shame. Had hoped he would insert some passion into our midfield.
Only if he throws his Crutches/hospital bed/sicknote at them, they should rename this kid Gardening leave for the amount of time he`s played for us.
Perhaps he could protect the back four by parking his private ambulance in front of the back four.
Must remember to tell Lescott that a five tonne big lump of white metal with four wheels isn't a player
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For what it's worth, I'd go;
Guzan
Hutton Richards Okore Lescott
Gana Veretout
Sinclair Gil Traore
Ayew
Bunn, Clark, Bacuna, Sanchez, Grealish, Agbonlahor, Gestede
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For what it's worth, I'd go;
Guzan
Hutton Richards Okore Lescott
Gana Veretout
Sinclair Gil Traore
Ayew
Bunn, Clark, Bacuna, Sanchez, Grealish, Agbonlahor, Gestede
Frightening
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Just score some goals and don't cock it up at the back..
what is so hard about that?
It would appear to be extremely hard for Aston Villa
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Like always I have convinced myself we will win. 3-0 Villa. Hutton, Ayew and Lescott
Maybe you should convince yourself that we lose and who knows?
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It's a little bit like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic at the moment with our squad and first team, but I would genuinely sacrifice the option of width coming from our fullbacks and concentrate on being very hard to break down. So Richards at right back and Clark at left back have to be considered. The fullbacks have been so shit this year positionally that we have shipped so many needless goals.
Then I would try and get as much pace in front three as possible. I'd play a front three of Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew and play Veretout in front of Westwood and Gana.
Adama is worth a go for half an hour, but I certainly wouldn't play him wide right as the only protection for Hutton's fuckwittery.
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
I think, and I'm not knocking them, that there are a % of posters who always vote for a Villa win whatever the circumstances.
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
I thought the same.
I'll have a pint of what they're drinking or some of what they're smoking. Must be good stuff.
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
I thought the same.
I'll have a pint of what they're drinking or some of what they're smoking. Must be good stuff.
Shit are we away? Er, can I change my vote?
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I'm voting win.
We will win again. Hopefully.
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We will lose, 2-0.
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It's a little bit like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic at the moment with our squad and first team, but I would genuinely sacrifice the option of width coming from our fullbacks and concentrate on being very hard to break down. So Richards at right back and Clark at left back have to be considered. The fullbacks have been so shit this year positionally that we have shipped so many needless goals.
Then I would try and get as much pace in front three as possible. I'd play a front three of Sinclair, Gabby and Ayew and play Veretout in front of Westwood and Gana.
Adama is worth a go for half an hour, but I certainly wouldn't play him wide right as the only protection for Hutton's fuckwittery.
Agree re deckchairs and full backs, but could comfortably never see Sinclair, Westwood and Gabby start again. Would rather see the likes of Gil, Grealish, Adama, Ilori and Kozak given more of a crack at things.
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0-5, Sinclair (3), Ayew (2).
And so it begins.
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0-5, Sinclair (3), Ayew (2).
And so it begins.
You're supposed to predict the Newcastle game, not how many goals we'll score between now and the end of the season.
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0-5, Sinclair (3), Ayew (2).
And so it begins.
Acid addiction?
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0-5, Sinclair (3), Ayew (2).
And so it begins.
Your medication?
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-excuses-newcastle-saturday-theyre-10602997
Much as it pains me this is spot on, I suppose laughing at their demise was going to bite us on the arse one day.
Someone still got their head in their arse about 2009? Maybe even Coventry in 2001?
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
Score one more goal than Newcastle?
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What does 'score' a 'goal' mean?
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They're going through a bit of a purple patch at the moment, but we're going to put a stop to that and go on a run of wins over the Christmas. Ho ho ho.
1-3 Villa with 20% possession and 2 shots at goal. Gabby, Gil and Dummet og.
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They're going through a bit of a purple patch at the moment, but we're going to put a stop to that and go on a run of wins over the Christmas. Ho ho ho.
1-3 Villa with 20% possession and 2 shots at goal. Gabby, Gil and Dummet og.
I don't think 'shit hat' Gabby is going to get anywhere near the first team anytime soon or again maybe.
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--------------Guzan
Richards, Okore, Clark, Lescott
----------Gueye, Sanchez---------
----Traore, Veretout, Jack-Who
-------------Ayew------------
would prefer to have Ayew on left but when the alternatives are Just-Head and Flabby - Im afraid not.
if we are to go down we may aswell go down fighting, dropping Sinclair may be a bit harsh but Traore and Jack-Who could and should offer more going forward
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It's only November what can they take the piss about? If they want to wave that's fine. We just wave back.
And if we are going to make a fist of it all, this is as good a place to start. Ugly 1-0, a bit like the ugly 1-1 we secured last time on the road.
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--------------Guzan
Richards, Okore, Clark, Lescott
----------Gueye, Sanchez---------
----Traore, Veretout, Jack-Who
-------------Ayew------------
would prefer to have Ayew on left but when the alternatives are Just-Head and Flabby - Im afraid not.
if we are to go down we may aswell go down fighting, dropping Sinclair may be a bit harsh but Traore and Jack-Who could and should offer more going forward
So your left sided player to cover for Lescott is Jack, I doubt if any one can come up with a team that looks balanced based on the squad we have, which just needed new ideas apparently.
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I would'nt listen to a word that dumb, fat fuck Micky Quinn has to say. Twat of Savage-esque proportions.
If we're gonna turn this around I think it really needs to start Saturday. A battling 2-2.
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It's only November what can they take the piss about?
You might have less time for your Christmas shopping than you think...
We can get a draw out of this, but only a win will do. Gil has to start.
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"Going down, going down, going down"
"So are we, so are we, so are we"
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One day we must win ..... so come on what ever the team is Saturday give us that win and some hope to take us into Christmas
Newcastle are no world beaters so even for us surely its possible
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I've just got a feeling we are going to do this mob. We have to win sooner or later...right?
1-2 to us. Traore to score all 3.
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Sounds like Richards is going to be missing again so presume we will line up Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Lescott, Bacuna, Sanchez, Gueye, Veretout, Gil, Sinclair, Ayew
Would much rather Traore than Sinclair but think Garde going to continue to use him as a sub; I don't want Gestede anywhere near the first XI
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Changes need to be made, as the current set-up is just not working. I can’t see the 11 that he picked against Arsenal beating anybody in this league, quite frankly. For all of their faults, Agbonlahor and Westwood need to be re-instated and he needs to move Bacuna as far away from the left-back position as he possibly can. If Richards is out, I’d go with the following;
Guzan; Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lescott; Sanchez, Westwood; Grealish, Veretout, Ayew; Agbonlahor
Subs: Bun,; Ilori, Bacuna, Gueye, Traore, Gil, Gestede
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Fair play to the 2,000 strong travelling army heading to this one. I think it will be a dire 0-0, not what we need.
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Usually in a scenario like this I'd say the one thing in our favour is this Newcastle side isn't good enough to win three on the bounce.
But we are about as intimidating as a Julian Clary Select XI or the cast of Rainbow at present.
0-3.
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0-5, Sinclair (3), Ayew (2).
And so it begins.
Your medication?
The nurse will be along soon to give it to you. Suggest you try to grope her arse; as you can probably get away with it given your current state of mind.
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Richards has done well fitness wise so far but we all knew it was never going to last and he would get crocked at some point.
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I've optimistically gone for a draw!
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Can we add a 4th Option?
Match Abandoned
Home Win - I can't drag myself to select that.
Draw - I'd like to think so but don't want to jinx it
Away Win - I am nowhere near insane enough to select that.
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"Going down, going down, going down"
"So are we, so are we, so are we"
Or
"What's it like, what's it like, what's it like".
We'll win anyway and there wont be any fucker left in the ground come full time, as we'll stick a couple past them.
They're as shite as us this rabble.
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"Going down, going down, going down"
"So are we, so are we, so are we"
Or
"What's it like, what's it like, what's it like".
We'll win anyway and there wont be any fucker left in the ground come full time, as we'll stick a couple past them.
They're as shite as us this rabble.
Got to admire your defiance, but if all your pre-match predictions came true, would we be on 48 points by now by any chance?
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Sorry, but they are not like us. At least they try to compete and close the opposition down. I don't think our squad have heard of these two basic football principles or, maybe they have but, just can't be arsed to do all that running around that would involve. Obviously, they need to conserve their energy for the Geordie Lasses come about 6pm when they rush from the ground to the nearest Club!!!
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I tend to say the same thing; we've got to score first. And I say it because its true.
I generally, as a rule, only make a score prediction when I feel it in my bones. I fancied us for a result at least down at Southampton and I fancy us this weekend.
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Fuck the Fuckers.
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"Going down, going down, going down"
"So are we, so are we, so are we"
They're as shite as us this rabble.
The table would suggest not.
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Damn. I just read we've never won a league game when Gil has played, good job I didn't include him in my team for Sat then.
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Damn. I just read we've never won a league game when Gil has played, good job I didn't include him in my team for Sat then.
I reckon the same applies to most of the first team squad doesn't it?
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Sounds like Richards is going to be missing again so presume we will line up Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Lescott, Bacuna, Sanchez, Gueye, Veretout, Gil, Sinclair, Ayew
Would much rather Traore than Sinclair but think Garde going to continue to use him as a sub; I don't want Gestede anywhere near the first XI
What's actually up with Richards?
It's obviously just a coincidence that someone who was very vocal about being signed to play centre back by the previous manager and who was quite vocal about splits in the dressing room around the time of Sherwood's demise and Garde's appointment has not been seen since Okore has been available, but it's unfortunate timing as I think Richards outside of Okore would stiffen up that side of the defence and make us more dangerous going forward.
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37% forecasting a Villa win, flipping heck we must have the most optimistic fans in the Premier League. Make that also all the Football and Conference leagues, in fact throw in all the European leagues as well!.
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Not really. Veretout, Sanchez, Gueye, Ayew, Gestede all featured back in August. At least they know what it's like to play and win, Gil has never had that... it must suck.
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Bollocks! Martin Atkinson appointed for Saturday, wonder what fuck up he will have this time.
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These are shite. 4-0 Villa.
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I tend to say the same thing; we've got to score first. And I say it because its true.
I generally, as a rule, only make a score prediction when I feel it in my bones. I fancied us for a result at least down at Southampton and I fancy us this weekend.
Nice one Ads. I just hope it's not a case of misinterpretation & you're not going down with summut viral instead. ;)
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What's actually up with Richards?
He went AWOL again during the Watford game and hasn't been seen since. My guess is Hutton got pissed off with taking all the blame, killed him and buried him under his patio.
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37% saying away win - how? And I really hope I end up eating a seriously huge slice of humble pie here, but HOW??......
Score one more goal than Newcastle?
So THATS how it's done, I do remember this scenario from somewhere.....
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1-1.
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They`re really up for this, to read their message boards you would think we single-handedly relegated them - NO! ITS BECAUSE YOU WERE SHITE ALL SEASON DO NOT BLAME US BECAUSE YOU WENT DOWN just as we are inevitably going the same way, as for celebrating your demise, stop overplaying your hand lads, you would/will do the same, and as for "celebrating" - really??, i suggest you go on Youtube and look at what happened at Villa Park when the Blues went down, there is a slight difference.
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They`re really up for this, to read their message boards you would think we single-handedly relegated them - NO! ITS BECAUSE YOU WERE SHITE ALL SEASON DO NOT BLAME US BECAUSE YOU WENT DOWN just as we are inevitably going the same way, as for celebrating your demise, stop overplaying your hand lads, you would/will do the same, and as for "celebrating" - really??, i suggest you go on Youtube and look at what happened at Villa Park when the Blues went down, there is a slight difference.
But they are the bestest fans in all the world - ever!
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Well we all know 'what goes round comes round' - I think all our traveling fans should take up Cadburys selection boxes to hand out and say sorry.
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Or the team could show some bottle and spirit and stop embarrassing the clubs name. I don't buy in to the their trying 100%, the work rate is shit.
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What's actually up with Richards?
Knee-knack according to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2).Due back this weekend
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Garde's comments on Richards returning don't sound positive.
Their fans will be well up for this, let's hope their players aren't quite so much.
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I know quite a few Newcastle supporters and they aren't 'up for it' at all.
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".........win"
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".........win"
Aston Villa training montage. Scenes of Gabby walking around eating a Dairy Milk, Nzog on the sidelines with a pair of headphones on and some decks he's brought along for the day. Westwood pointing at Micah who's with Mcdonald trying to start a fight on all the foreign lads and Jack's lying face down in the centre circle after downing a few pints of mulled wine.
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I know quite a few Newcastle supporters and they aren't 'up for it' at all.
The ones I know are worried that they are encountering a false dawn and don't want tomorrow to be the time they come down to earth with a bump.
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I know quite a few Newcastle supporters and they aren't 'up for it' at all.
Why not, any idea?
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I know quite a few Newcastle supporters and they aren't 'up for it' at all.
Why not, any idea?
They've been watching Newcastle for too many years. They only reason they take any notice of Villa is because I support them basically!
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My fear is that their forwards are actually half decent and can score goals. We only have 1 that looks lively enough to cause problems. Something that desperately needs to change in January.
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Jorden Ayew and if Adama Traore has a go, knows when to run and when to pass, then they could cause trouble.
And if they do play a tall forward, give Kozak a go (doubt it tho), rather than put Gestade anywhere near the team bus.
As for the midfield and defense....
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Jorden Ayew and if Adama Traore has a go, knows when to run and when to pass, then they could cause trouble.
And if they do play a tall forward, give Kozak a go (doubt it tho), rather than put Gestade anywhere near the team bus.
As for the midfield and defense....
I actually think a back 4 of Cissokho, Lescott, Okore, Richards is fairly stableand could be ok, it is the holding midfielder to rally the troops we are missing then. A decent sized mobile centre forward that can hold the ball and a man to play wide right/ left with Ayew are just as important though. Trouble is Sinclair and Gestede lose the damn thing so easily we are always on the back foot
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Jorden Ayew and if Adama Traore has a go, knows when to run and when to pass, then they could cause trouble.
And if they do play a tall forward, give Kozak a go (doubt it tho), rather than put Gestade anywhere near the team bus.
As for the midfield and defense....
Quite, we do have options going forwards (and I don't mean Gabby and N'Zog), Adama, Kozak, Gil, Grealish could all come in and offer something different to Gestede and Sinclair, but in midfield and defence we're really struggling for options. I'm no fan of either Westwood or Sanchez, but who else could play there, Lyden, Calder, Gardner, Ilori, Richards? I don't really fancy any of them are ready yet or good enough to play there.
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Louise Taylor, Guardian's Newcastle United expert, really should stick to writing/cheerleading about them. No insight about us, just lazily pasted inaccurate crap: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/18/newcastle-aston-villa-transfer-tactics-remi-garde
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I know quite a few Newcastle supporters and they aren't 'up for it' at all.
The ones I know are worried that they are encountering a false dawn and don't want tomorrow to be the time they come down to earth with a bump.
They obviously haven't seen us just lately.
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Jorden Ayew and if Adama Traore has a go, knows when to run and when to pass, then they could cause trouble.
what is this pass you talk about?
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Jorden Ayew and if Adama Traore has a go, knows when to run and when to pass, then they could cause trouble.
And if they do play a tall forward, give Kozak a go (doubt it tho), rather than put Gestade anywhere near the team bus.
As for the midfield and defense....
I actually think a back 4 of Cissokho, Lescott, Okore, Richards is fairly stableand could be ok, it is the holding midfielder to rally the troops we are missing then. A decent sized mobile centre forward that can hold the ball and a man to play wide right/ left with Ayew are just as important though. Trouble is Sinclair and Gestede lose the damn thing so easily we are always on the back foot
Agree, but also think we could do with Grealish or Gil just off a forward to pick the passes and put Ayew and Traore in. We've go to play Gil further up the field.
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Newcastle have won 2 on the spin.
We're fucking horrendous.
It all points one way...
Villa win. We have to win at some point...surely...don't we?
I know our record against them is largely tosh, but the law of football dictates that Newcastle simply will not win this game. There's no way in hell they're going to win three on the bounce. You can take that to the bank.
We will win this one.
But will we build on a win?
Probably not.
Still.
Newcastle 0- Aston Villa 1. Ayew.
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Newcastle have won 2 on the spin.
We're fucking horrendous.
It all points one way...
Villa win. We have to win at some point...surely...don't we?
I know our record against them is largely tosh, but the law of football dictates that Newcastle simply will not win this game. There's no way in hell they're going to win three on the bounce. You can take that to the bank.
We will win this one.
But will we build on a win?
Probably not.
Still.
Newcastle 0- Aston Villa 1. Ayew.
We will not keep a clean sheet. Try again.
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Newcastle have won 2 on the spin.
We're fucking horrendous.
It all points one way...
Villa win. We have to win at some point...surely...don't we?
I know our record against them is largely tosh, but the law of football dictates that Newcastle simply will not win this game. There's no way in hell they're going to win three on the bounce. You can take that to the bank.
We will win this one.
But will we build on a win?
Probably not.
Still.
Newcastle 0- Aston Villa 1. Ayew.
We will not keep a clean sheet. Try again.
1-2.
And since we don't score many goals we'll need them to score an own goal.
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Newcastle have won 2 on the spin.
We're fucking horrendous.
It all points one way...
Villa win. We have to win at some point...surely...don't we?
I know our record against them is largely tosh, but the law of football dictates that Newcastle simply will not win this game. There's no way in hell they're going to win three on the bounce. You can take that to the bank.
We will win this one.
But will we build on a win?
Probably not.
Still.
Newcastle 0- Aston Villa 1. Ayew.
Gamblers fallacy man. We can keep on losing.
Hope you are right though obviously.
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Can not see anything other than another defeat. The barcodes i feel will be far more up for it than our lot 3-1
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Right it's time to break out of this embarrassing,gut wrenching run of shit!!! 3-1 to the villa the start of a ten game winning run.
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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/no-excuses-newcastle-saturday-theyre-10602997
Much as it pains me this is spot on, I suppose laughing at their demise was going to bite us on the arse one day.
Someone still got their head in their arse about 2009? Maybe even Coventry in 2001?
You'll have to elaborate on this one.....
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1-2 Lescott, Grealish in injury time
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It's been blowing a gale up here. I'm glad that I came up by train rather than flying as I originally planned
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Right it's time to break out of this embarrassing,gut wrenching run of shit!!! 3-1 to the villa the start of a ten game winning run.
Safety by start of March then, where's my Cigar m'lord....
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1-0 villa win
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It's been blowing a gale up here. I'm glad that I came up by train rather than flying as I originally planned
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You have wings? 🤓
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Just read we have only won 38 of our last 168 league games. Shocking.
Fight Like Kittens.
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Just read we have only won 38 of our last 168 league games. Shocking.
Fight Like Kittens.
34 points from our last 50 games
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Louise Taylor, Guardian's Newcastle United expert, really should stick to writing/cheerleading about them. No insight about us, just lazily pasted inaccurate crap: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/18/newcastle-aston-villa-transfer-tactics-remi-garde
It's not one of her worst articles to be fair, but it's weird that journalists in the UK criticise this type of transfer policy when it or a variant of it is how pretty much every continental club operates. And the manager has a veto, so Tim could have said no.
For me, for the manager to delegate the scouting/recruitment makes sense unless that manager is an expert scout themselves. They just need to identify exactly what attributes they need for the team.
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Right chaps this has really got to must win territory.
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Louise Taylor, Guardian's Newcastle United expert, really should stick to writing/cheerleading about them. No insight about us, just lazily pasted inaccurate crap: http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/dec/18/newcastle-aston-villa-transfer-tactics-remi-garde
It's not one of her worst articles to be fair, but it's weird that journalists in the UK criticise this type of transfer policy when it or a variant of it is how pretty much every continental club operates. And the manager has a veto, so Tim could have said no.
For me, for the manager to delegate the scouting/recruitment makes sense unless that manager is an expert scout themselves. They just need to identify exactly what attributes they need for the team.
It's typical of the way we handle media relations appalingly, so that the other side of the story is allowed to control the agenda and hypothesis becomes accepted as fact.
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
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We have won only 2 of 22 visits to Newcastle in the Premier League. When you consider how crap they've been at times and it's hardly Old Trafford, that is another terrible statistic.
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I just want to experience what it's like to win a PL football match again.
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
Like Garde said, we need to win at least two out of the next four.That will put us on 12 points and depending how other teams do, it might look a bit better going into the new year.
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
Like Garde said, we need to win at least two out of the next four.That will put us on 12 points and depending how other teams do, it might look a bit better going into the new year.
agree with that it has to be at least 12 points come jan 2nd
even with that we will need 26 points from 18 games so literally a 50% win rate
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Guzan fumble. 1.0
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
Like Garde said, we need to win at least two out of the next four.That will put us on 12 points and depending how other teams do, it might look a bit better going into the new year.
Whatever happens today there are still 66 points to play for. That's how Remi and the rest of us should be looking at it.
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
Like Garde said, we need to win at least two out of the next four.That will put us on 12 points and depending how other teams do, it might look a bit better going into the new year.
Whatever happens today there are still 66 points to play for. That's how Remi and the rest of us should be looking at it.
We'll be lucky to take the 6.
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Number 1 priority in January. Pick up a decent keeper who will give the defenders some confidence. That one thing will give us a chance of survival. Why that wasn't addressed in the summer I'll never know.
Once again my eternal optimism is telling me score draw today. We will take the lead but end up hanging on to a draw. 2-2
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Nothing but a win or a draw will do so I will go 0-1 to the Villa Guzan big kick.
How the heart plays tricks.
A draw is no good I'm afraid. We need to win the next 3 games, unlikely as that may be.
Like Garde said, we need to win at least two out of the next four.That will put us on 12 points and depending how other teams do, it might look a bit better going into the new year.
Whatever happens today there are still 66 points to play for. That's how Remi and the rest of us should be looking at it.
We'll be lucky to take the 6.
That's the spirit mate.
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The head says we'll get turned over tonight. We don't look like we have a win in us. Also, the geordies still hold a grudge over their relegation in 2009 (the accounts of which I feel are more and more exaggerated as time goes by, with the exception of that "sob on the Tyne" flag).
However, the heart says we'll win tonight, then win the next three after that!
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It's about trying to remain positive for me. Like the young lad Lyden said, one win could breathe confidence into the team. Like I said the other day, I do fancy us more in the upcoming games than today but you never know, get the crowd on their backs today and who knows.
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The head says we'll get turned over tonight. We don't look like we have a win in us. Also, the geordies still hold a grudge over their relegation in 2009 (the accounts of which I feel are more and more exaggerated as time goes by, with the exception of that "sob on the Tyne" flag).
Have we ever held such a grudge? We've had Newcastle, Norwich and Leicester that don't seem to forget minor incidents - be it laughing at their relegation or nicking their managers.
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The head says we'll get turned over tonight. We don't look like we have a win in us. Also, the geordies still hold a grudge over their relegation in 2009 (the accounts of which I feel are more and more exaggerated as time goes by, with the exception of that "sob on the Tyne" flag).
Have we ever held such a grudge? We've had Newcastle, Norwich and Leicester that don't seem to forget minor incidents - be it laughing at their relegation or nicking their managers.
I'm not sure. All I know was that I was on holiday in Spain last summer and on our first night ended up with some bitter geordie glowering at me because of who I supported (I wasnt about to deny who my team were). I felt like telling him the accounts of that day we greatly embellished but knew it would have been a thankless task.
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And that's the point. Two banners and a chorus of Going Down has been exaggerated out of all proportion. Their supporters I spoke to after the match were angry at the players, not us. As ever, we let the other side control the story.
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And that's the point. Two banners and a chorus of Going Down has been exaggerated out of all proportion. Their supporters I spoke to after the match were angry at the players, not us. As ever, we let the other side control the story.
John Carver put the boot in on us as well a while back before we played them.
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And that's the point. Two banners and a chorus of Going Down has been exaggerated out of all proportion. Their supporters I spoke to after the match were angry at the players, not us. As ever, we let the other side control the story.
A couple of mates who were at the game said they were a bit taken aback by some of the hostility they experienced before and after the match and were a bit baffled as to where it all came from as well as the gleeful celebration of their relegation. Don't know which pubs they were in but there was some trouble caused by Villa fans spoiling for a fight. Consequently they are now looking forward to the last game of the season.
Anyway, one of them told me he reckons they won't win today as they never win three in a row, whereas I pointed out we never seem to win one in a row.
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And that's the point. Two banners and a chorus of Going Down has been exaggerated out of all proportion. Their supporters I spoke to after the match were angry at the players, not us. As ever, we let the other side control the story.
A couple of mates who were at the game said they were a bit taken aback by some of the hostility they experienced before and after the match and were a bit baffled as to where it all came from as well as the gleeful celebration of their relegation. Don't know which pubs they were in but there was some trouble caused by Villa fans spoiling for a fight. Consequently they are now looking forward to the last game of the season.
Anyway, one of them told me he reckons they won't win today as they never win three in a row, whereas I pointed out we never seem to win one in a row.
They believed their own hype for so long they never realised that every club would have done the same as we did.
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At least they won't be the ones to send us down, we'll be down long before that game.
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A couple of mates who were at the game said they were a bit taken aback by some of the hostility they experienced before and after the match and were a bit baffled as to where it all came from as well as the gleeful celebration of their relegation. Don't know which pubs they were in but there was some trouble caused by Villa fans spoiling for a fight. Consequently they are now looking forward to the last game of the season.
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I do remember that it was a very hot day, on the Sunday of a bank holiday weekend, and a 4pm kickoff. No work next day for many and the first excuse of the year to get trollied in the sun.
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And that's the point. Two banners and a chorus of Going Down has been exaggerated out of all proportion. Their supporters I spoke to after the match were angry at the players, not us. As ever, we let the other side control the story.
A couple of mates who were at the game said they were a bit taken aback by some of the hostility they experienced before and after the match and were a bit baffled as to where it all came from as well as the gleeful celebration of their relegation. Don't know which pubs they were in but there was some trouble caused by Villa fans spoiling for a fight. Consequently they are now looking forward to the last game of the season.
Anyway, one of them told me he reckons they won't win today as they never win three in a row, whereas I pointed out we never seem to win one in a row.
They believed their own hype for so long they never realised that every club would have done the same as we did.
I can only speak for the ones I know who pretty much have a gallows humour where they are concerned but they both said there was a nasty atmosphere in the pubs and after the game which they found baffling.
Whoever was going to be relegated was going to be mocked and have the piss taken out of them so I don't understand why they get so upset, it will happen to us this season at some stage and I'm sure whoever it is will enjoy their day but if there are hundreds of Geordies with home made banners at Villa Park on the last day we'll just have to suck it up!
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At least they won't be the ones to send us down, we'll be down long before that game.
They could probably send us down today.
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I think Shearer being in charge when they went down played a part in why they were so bitter.
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
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Very good.
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I think much of Newcastle's ire is based on the idea that such an insignificant club as Villa could take such delight in their downfall. A kind of who-the-fuck-are-you-to-give-us-grief mentality. Whereas, anybody else would have done the same because of Newcastle's inflated sense of self-importance. Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea would have been just as bad if not worse. The whole country wanted them relegated. We dispatched them with a bit of wit.
Now it's our turn, and we'll have to take our medicine. Except we won't be getting all precious over it.
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Guzan fumble. 1.0
what??? A fumble by Guzan. Never.
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I think much of Newcastle's ire is based on the idea that such an insignificant club as Villa could take such delight in their downfall. A kind of who-the-fuck-are-you-to-give-us-grief mentality. Whereas, anybody else would have done the same because of Newcastle's inflated sense of self-importance. Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea would have been just as bad if not worse. The whole country wanted them relegated. We dispatched them with a bit of wit.
Now it's our turn, and we'll have to take our medicine. Except we won't be getting all precious over it.
good point well made
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It's only November what can they take the piss about?
You might have less time for your Christmas shopping than you think...
Good one.
I am sure the house purchasing committee have matters all in hand.
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Fortunately, unlike the Villa, we are entertaining guests throughout the day today, so will not be able to watch.
I used to be annoyed if the other half planned something like this when we're playing. Now I don't seem to care.
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This thread title should be re-named Newcastle United v Rock Bottom Aston Villa, I've heard it that many times today on Sky.
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In attempt to remember that football can just be entertainment, I'm across the river at the Gateshead v Woking game
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
I'm going on the 27th. Really looking forward to it. I loved what J J Abrams did with the Star Trek films so if it's anything like that, it'll be a real treat. I'll need cheering up after going to the West Ham game on Boxing day.
Back to today, I think we'll turn them over. They never win 3 in a row. 2 -1. Oh hang on a minute. Who will score for us? Oh well, maybe not.......
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Win today and we can push on for Europe
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
I'm going on the 27th. Really looking forward to it. I loved what J J Abrams did with the Star Trek films so if it's anything like that, it'll be a real treat. I'll need cheering up after going to the West Ham game on Boxing day.
Back to today, I think we'll turn them over. They never win 3 in a row. 2 -1. Oh hang on a minute. Who will score for us? Oh well, maybe not.......
I watched it at 11.15am yesterday when the doors opened. It was ace and very much the same feel as the Star Trek movies. You'll especially notice it in the scenes with the Falcon. I won't give any more away. Have a great time.
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I'm feeling oddly optimistic today. 1-0 win. Ayew.
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Win today and we can push on for Europe
Lose and it's the Final Countdown to relegation
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
I'm going on the 27th. Really looking forward to it. I loved what J J Abrams did with the Star Trek films so if it's anything like that, it'll be a real treat. I'll need cheering up after going to the West Ham game on Boxing day.
Back to today, I think we'll turn them over. They never win 3 in a row. 2 -1. Oh hang on a minute. Who will score for us? Oh well, maybe not.......
I watched it at 11.15am yesterday when the doors opened. It was ace and very much the same feel as the Star Trek movies. You'll especially notice it in the scenes with the Falcon. I won't give any more away. Have a great time.
I'm going this evening after the game.
First time that I've been to the cinema in the UK since 1993
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When's Barry Norman posting his prediction?
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I've watched Star Wars twice already. Loved it.
I've just looked at the table. Ten points off safety. 13 if we lose. Pretty much a must win game then - but I've a feeling they'll really be in the mood to get revenge for you know what.
Can't say I'm confident but then maybe the shackles can come off at some stage.
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Never seen Star Wars, is Metal Mickey still in it?
Way results are going we could be down by the end of January at this rate.
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
I'm going on the 27th. Really looking forward to it. I loved what J J Abrams did with the Star Trek films so if it's anything like that, it'll be a real treat. I'll need cheering up after going to the West Ham game on Boxing day.
Back to today, I think we'll turn them over. They never win 3 in a row. 2 -1. Oh hang on a minute. Who will score for us? Oh well, maybe not.......
I watched it at 11.15am yesterday when the doors opened. It was ace and very much the same feel as the Star Trek movies. You'll especially notice it in the scenes with the Falcon. I won't give any more away. Have a great time.
I'm going this evening after the game.
First time that I've been to the cinema in the UK since 1993
Jurassic Park! /Partridge (It was though, right?)
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The current scores are really making this must win.
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I reckon we will lose by a couple 3-1.
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With the results as they stand at the moment It is now a must win game, if it wasn't already before.
Biggest game in a long time. I'm well up for it, let's hope the players are too.
C'mon The Villa.
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Busy afternoon today. Off to the cinema to see Star Wars The Force Awakens, followed by watching the Villa game on Sky tonight.
So, a tale of desperation and misery, as a desperate, down trodden group of individuals battle in the face of adversity and fear despite the actions of an elusive dark overlord.
And also Star Wars The Force Awakens.
Enjoy it, it's superb. Great story, acting and special effects are top notch. Very similar to what JJ Abrams did in the last two Star Trek movies.
I'm going on the 27th. Really looking forward to it. I loved what J J Abrams did with the Star Trek films so if it's anything like that, it'll be a real treat. I'll need cheering up after going to the West Ham game on Boxing day.
Back to today, I think we'll turn them over. They never win 3 in a row. 2 -1. Oh hang on a minute. Who will score for us? Oh well, maybe not.......
I watched it at 11.15am yesterday when the doors opened. It was ace and very much the same feel as the Star Trek movies. You'll especially notice it in the scenes with the Falcon. I won't give any more away. Have a great time.
I'm going this evening after the game.
First time that I've been to the cinema in the UK since 1993
Hopefully you'll watch it in IMAX, or whatever they call it there. You know the biggest, loudest, baddest screen you can find.
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the sound of music live is on the telly tomorow night
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4-4-2 Westwood for Gestede FFS...
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4-4-2 Westwood for Gestede FFS...
no pace no creativity no Adama no Grealish no Gil No CHANCE
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That lineup is horrendous. Setting us up for a draw and not to lose. Draws are no good to us, we need to win.
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I agree with dropping Gestede as he's a hugely talentless donkey, with the touch of a baby elephant and the speed of continental drift. But Westwood? FFS!